Obama Taking The Lead On Health-Care Reform Battle

Washington Post:

Six months into his presidency, Barack Obama may have no greater test of his ability to translate personal popularity into a successful legislative agenda than the upcoming two weeks.

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Comments

[qdog112]

The GOP "SKY IS FALLING" approach to every mandated reform effort has played out. It has served to hasten their inevitable irrelevance and reinforced their lying ways.

[kesmarn]

Yup. They opposed Social Security and Medicare too.

[DistressedGenes]

Interesting projection, that is exactly the tactic being used by the left to seize 20% of the economy and it's associated private industry.

[RuinedSaint]

Medical expenses account for over 50% of current bankruptcy claims; this is fact, not doomsday prophecy.

[LeighAnnes]

Ronald Reagan said in the 1960s that medicare would be the end of American freedom. Yet here we are 50 years later and the sky has not fallen.

[Freetrademan]

So along comes Barack Obama to finish the job. ("So Medicare wasn't enough to kill Freedom? Watch this...")

[Tom Joad]

Health Security is a civil right that should be guaranteed and protected by our representative government . Just as it was once time to declare our other civil rights, it is now time to declare our right to Health Security for everyone.

[Lilith33]

Progressives have been trying since Teddy Roosevelt...too bad corporate interests have taken over.

[DistressedGenes]

A clear absurdity, the left love to obscure the landscape with subjective rights.

[RuinedSaint]

And the right loves to ignore the landscape by claiming it doesn't exist.

[BizSamurai]

You are clearly ab$urd

[Lilith33]

how about an objective reality?
how many other industialized nations put healthcare costs on the backs of business??
how does that make us competative again?Objectively of course.......

[Freetrademan]

Be accurate.

Health Care is not a right. You WANT health care to be a Right.

What else should be a Right? How about housing? Everyone needs a place to live. How about food? Surely we must feed people! And we can't have people going around without decent clothing. Clothing must be a right. (Stop me when it gets absurd...)

[rich misty]

DistressedGenes: Nobody 'cares' but your family and friends, grow up. If you think someone 'cares' your still living in a child's fantasy world and begging to be taken advantage of.
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Child separation syndrome? Certainly arrested emotional development due to some trauma is present in this post. Were you assaulted by kids in your early school years?

[COVERME]

You spot it, you got it!

[rich misty]

That is what I do.

[Coinyer101]

When my republican neighbor and I were debating this issue, I beat him up. He had to go to the emergency room, because his plan didn't cover being beaten up fer being stoopid. He is now fully behind healthcare reform.......,

[neoprimordial]

Violence is really not the way.

[Coinyer101]

it worked didn't it? lol

[rich misty]

Had to fave that one.

[Strega]

Ditto

[neoprimordial]

What's happening when you "favorite" a remark?

[RattleCat]

LOL - you just sent all the tr0lls scrambling to call their insurance rep. :)

[BizSamurai]

Heh heh heh

[RuinedSaint]

LOLz...

[DistressedGenes]

In the unlikely event that you were to beat me up in a similar situation life insurance would be your primary concern. I hear burial is getting more expensive these days.

[Coinyer101]

Son. I been a bouncer in a redn*ck bar for years. I sweeep our parking lot with guy's like you.

[SludgeReport]

Should tax payers pay cover the health care costs for this guy and those like him who obviously do not care about nor take responsibility for their own health?

http://usera.imagecave.com/webloafer/Blogs/article_fat_ted_feeding_tube.jpg11127175362708.jpg

[rich misty]

Some people need help learning and taking care of themselves. That is why everybody needs health care.

Nobody clicks your links. Ever.

[SludgeReport]

In essence, you are calling Ruined Sense a "nobody"

[LeighAnnes]

You got that right!

[RuinedSaint]

He should have recieved treatment long ago to deal with his self-destructive tendancies.

Fortunately, such mental health is part of the plan.

[SludgeReport]

so we are going to rehabilitate EVERYONE in the country? That's SOME price tag.

[gladys46]

"This guy" ... huh !! Wooooo, scary !

[kesmarn]

A contemptable post, even considering the source. Kennedy's current health condition is not related to any concern or lack of same about his own health. Anyone can get a brain tumor. Even Republicans. You should be ashamed.

[SludgeReport]

Are really that dense? The photo was taken prior to his diagnosis. Any one who is that much over weight does not care about his health and should not have others paying for his health care. Why am I wasting my time explaining this to you? Never mind.

[LeighAnnes]

Have I missed it or has no one mentioned that the cost of health care premiums and co-pays continues to rise every year? It's not just that health care costs are increasing, which they are, but that the companies are contributing less. I believe that the costs will continue to rise until the employer is paying none of it. That is what is happened with pensions in most fortune 500 companies. We went from define-benefit to defined-contribution to none. This happened despite the supposed tax benefits.

[WLA]

As long as the raygunites get rid of those pesky unions and that durned middle class!

[Lilith33]

Done and done!

Mission accomplished?

[neoprimordial]

Of course, and if you follow the money, you'll see immediately why we *need* health care reform.

[COVERME]

"The majority, being satisfied with the ways of mankind as they now are (for it is they who make them what they are), cannot comprehend why those ways should not be good enough for everybody; and what is more, spontaneity forms no part of the ideal of the majority of moral and social reformers, but is rather looked on with jealousy, as a troublesome and perhaps rebellious obstruction to the general acceptance of what these reformers, in their own judgment, think would be best for mankind"

John Stuart Mill (1806–1873). On Liberty. 1869.

Chapter III: Of Individuality, as One of the Elements of Well-Being

[WLA]

Yeah, there were people who were adamantly against rural electrification.

[wdw505]

but giving you electric in the country did not take away electric from me.........or have my taxes go up because you received electric

you made a bad analogy but thanks for playing

[COVERME]

I'm all for you're "electrification."

[Strega]

Sotomayor confirmation tomorrow: http://judiciary.senate.gov/

EAT IT REPUBS - how come no news on it yet?

[DistressedGenes]

It's a non-story. Unintellectual pedestrian herd following appointee confirmed to reliably fill Souter's seat on SC. She will have no impact on the court, write no meaningful opinions and vote with the left on the court on every issue. Oh yea, lefties are excited over her race and gender and think it's remarkable 'change', yadda yadda YAWN.

[Strega]

i take it back - you don't have the reasoning power of a tic-tac, more like chewing gum

[RuinedSaint]

Which is why your Party put so much effort in labeling her a left wing r@cist extremist.

Can't wait for you folks to try that again on the next SCOTUS nominee.

[wdw505]

at least if she is confirmed.......her health will not allow a seat for long.......

by then we might have a president

[rubygreen]

I heard yesterday the Sessions wanted the vote delayed a week. I think he was mad that he was taken to task on his r@ ci$t views on the Sunday talk shows.

[RuinedSaint]

What he gets for listening to Pat Buchanan.

[Strega]

Yes, Miss Lindsey was hear to be having a hissy fit!

[COVERME]

Yes!

It's up to the "Providence" of Congress now, isn't it?

[DistressedGenes]

You guys sound like a bunch of children with all this 'care' stuff. Nobody 'cares' but your family and friends, grow up. If you think someone 'cares' your still living in a child's fantasy world and begging to be taken advantage of.

[WLA]

Yep. Right wing philosophy in a nutshell: F. U. I got mine.

[wdw505]

no not at all..........i'll pay for mine.......you pay for yours

[Balancement]

We can tell you are a Christian by your love...

[wdw505]

why do liberals always drop to religious slams........it is kind of funny when i am not religious at all

[rich misty]

Republicans think that everyone is corrupt, just like they are.

Republicans have lost touch with the fact that most Americans are honest, decent, hard working people who are willing to make personal sacrifices to get the things they need.

[Freetrademan]

rich misty: "Republicans have lost touch with the fact that most Americans are honest, decent, hard working people who are willing to make personal sacrifices to get the things they need."

Then why do Dems work so hard to control their decisions?

[RuinedSaint]

"Nobody 'cares' but your family and friends, grow up."

A sterling example of the Every Man for Himself mentality of the Right.

[kesmarn]

You think that Libs have a naive faith in the good will of their fellow humans, and we think that you have a naive faith in the power of the almighty dollar.

[WLA]

Good comment.

[Tom Joad]

"Give me your tired,
your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me..."

This is the America in which I grew up.

[rich misty]

Faved, long time fan.

http://www.libertystatepark.com/emma.htm

Emma Lazurus

[SludgeReport]

Sure. We'll send 'em. Where do you live?

[RattleCat]

USA

[rubygreen]

Where did your parents, grandparents, great-grandparents come from?

[Strega]

FUh-lagged again r@cist

[RuinedSaint]

Indeed, it is.

[neoprimordial]

"The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge, has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much."

This is the America in which we live now.

How do we get back to yours?

[WLA]

Drag Grover Norquist into the town square and tar and feather him.

[levibatgirl]

Now Grassley checks in with A Mitchell and says.

Oh we're trying. Oh it's important Oh, yeah, hear that voters? We're trying so haaaard.

[Balancement]

Yes, Repubs and Blue Dogs, let's just take our time on this (and rake in as much Insurance Corporation money as we can).

Meanwhile, according to a study by the National Academy of Sciences, "around 20,000 Americans die each year because they can't get the healthcare they need."

What's 55 or so people dying a day while we wait for some kind of reform?

Single-Payer Universal Health Care NOW is the answer.

[pam45]

I hear the cash register too on this one. Blue Dogs and Repubs love that sound! It's a second and third home for selling out,

[CostaMesaJoe]

If the HC bill is deficit neutral, as has been reported, blue dogs can't say $hit about it............

[pam45]

They'll find a way.

[COVERME]

Does the plan pay for T.O.P.'s

What's a million two hundred thousand divided by 365?

Double that if T.O.P.'s are included!

You were saying?

[Balancement]

Something more rational and humane than you've been saying.

[Lilith33]

Cont.

A Conservative Case for Universal Health Coverage
By Randall Hoven



As small-government conservatives or libertarians, we could say, "That is the individual's choice: get the insurance or suffer the consequences." But if that is our policy, then why is our government paying over $2,100 per person per year and regulating health care at a cost of $1,500 per household? What are we getting for that money?


If we are to be consistent libertarians, then the government should stop meddling in health care and health insurance altogether. End Medicare. End Medicaid. Close down veterans' hospitals. Stop funding medical research. Stop funding pharmaceutical research. Stop mandating vaccines. Stop mandating emergency room treatment. Stop mandating health insurance policies. Stop doing those things that cost us 6.6% of our GDP when we have to kick in another 7% or more of our own.

[rich misty]

RSU: I can smell your fear.
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I hear you all are revolting... Not that I didn't already know that.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/18/754871/-Freepers-say-they-want-a-revolution

[RuinedSaint]

"I hear you all are revolting..."

That's right; they stink on ice.

[rich misty]

Yup, and I already knew that too...

[MataHari007]

RSU actually had the audacity to say that Republicans care about everyone. I'd be laughing if it wasn't so appalling.

[LeighAnnes]

Do they care about anyone?

[Lilith33]

they care about people only to use them as ATMs....

[Coinyer101]

I like this show of leadership by President Barack. I wish there were more of it. Congress sux.

[DistressedGenes]

Heh, 'show' being the operative word.

[greatlardini]

Who do you have that is better? All I hear from you guys is bitc_ing. No altenatives, no names. Who do you have that's better?

[jakiew]

how much do repub trolls get paid, that's what i want to know

[Lilith33]

Mission Accomplished?LOL!!

Nice codpiece though.....too bad it was empty like his head.

[pam45]

I agree. We need more leadership in Congress for that which is right. They seem to be scared to stand up for Americans.

[Balancement]

Not scared. Greedy. Our "Representatives" are selling their souls -- and the health of the American people -- to the Insurance Corporations.

[Lilith33]

the american people who vote for them do.........