Washington Post:
Six months into his presidency, Barack Obama may have no greater test of his ability to translate personal popularity into a successful legislative agenda than the upcoming two weeks.
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Does anyone know if the healthcare reform bill forces pharmaceutical companies to run long-term tests (think about 1-2 years)on their pills before release? This is important to find out unknown side-effects. One of the biggest reasons why insurance is so high is because the drugs we get have nasty/costly long term side-effects(permanent organ damage, nerve damage, etc). Currently, the pharma companies only do tests for a few weeks, maybe months in trial phase. If it works, then they pack and sell it. No long-term research into side-effects at all.
In short, does this bill force them to be responsible? If it did it would be real progess!
Not this one, nor would it belong here, but I seem to recall legislation for the FDA was recently passed. Have you looked there?
I thought maybe they'd throw it in there. The costs are directly related to that cycle. I'll check out the new FDA legislation, but I'm doubtful. The FDA is kinda of a lameduck on issues like this.
More side-effects are the big pharm's revenue expansion strategy. The side effects stimulate the sales of more other drug purported to cure the side-effects and endow you with some other side-effects. There's no need to cure you completely, as that's counter productive to their revenue generation and bad for their stock price.
New Repub talking points: processed cheese?! Canned hams? Somebody pass the grey poupon.
Buying ham at 2x the cost at the local grocery store? You'd think buying in bulk would save money but not when it's the government spending our dollars. Sure, let's give them more of our money. They've proven to be so responsible with it for the part 75 years.
Add a birth certificate and what is the price of tea in China and you have a post.
They were awarded contracts....do some research...
Lies, and you know it.
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?contentidonly=true&contentid=2009/07/0322.xml
Take your lies elsewhere. Maybe to Fox. They love lies over there.
And these arent jobs?
Whats wrong with these people?
You guys really need to go see Food Inc. Congress and big business definitely have a long term relationship so beware of the lies coming out of there. The movie is revealing on several different levels that help explain why the fight is on and the lies from those against health reform is so strong, Follow the money!
The question is really not about your health or my health or anybody's health; it's about the ownership of a lucrative turf that has been enabling those involved in adminstering the system become richer and richer. These fat cats don't care if the costs skyrocket. The higher the costs skyrocket, they will become filthily richer on the masses' pain and suffering.
The question now is really whelther the government has the will to stop this nightmare for the well being of the whole country, instead of a few filthy rich ugly fat cats who are operating the current legal public looting.
Obama said it.
In two short years the number of emergency room visits at Children Hospital has increased over 50%.
All of us are paying for these emergency room visits through our higher premiums.
For all those not familiar with DC, Childrens Hospital is located next to the Washington Hospital Center which probably has seen the same increase in emergency visits.
The way the system works now, the people with insurance pay for the people without insurance. That raises our premiums and makes our businesses and industries uncompetitive worldwide.
Tax cuts do NOT work.
http://www.politicsandcurrentaffairs.co.uk/Forum/peak-oil-economics-environment/24190-debunking-laffer-curve.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1692027,00.html
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/13/8171/42456
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2007/07/yet-again-tax-c.html
http://distributedrepublic.net/archives/2007/10/30/supply-side-monster
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4599/budgetdeficitorsurplus.gif
End of story.
We should all enjoy low taxes so we could all succeed. then there would be no need for tax cuts
Oh please cut the crap! Taxes aren't what's keeping people in poverty. Taxes aren't what's causing this recession. Taxes are NOT the huge problem you'd like to think they are.
Agreed, but where was this tax sentiment when Dum.ya was gutting middle and working class paychecks through increased taxes to pad the pockets of the wealthy and/or war profiteers?
It is part of an anti-government movement.
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/TPM.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=4&item=21
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A new GAO report [PDF] has made some news by reporting that large fractions of both U.S.-controlled and foreign-controlled corporations report no liabilities under the federal corporate income tax. In 2005, 25% of "large" U.S.-controlled corporations and 67% of all U.S.-controlled corporations reported no tax liability; foreign-controlled corporations reported no tax liability at roughly similar rates (slightly higher overall for GAO's study period).
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08957.pdf
16 years ago, when Bill Clinton came into office, he announced his plan to raise corporate taxes. The Republicans swore that it would hurt business and job creation.
-- By the end of Clinton's term, we saw 22 million jobs created, Dow Jones tripled.
8 years ago, George W Bush cut business taxes, declaring that it would lead to enormous economic growth.
-- By the end of Bush's term, we saw 2 million jobs created, Dow Jones DOWN 2500 points from when he came into office.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/26-0 = Supply side history
Spin!
http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/bg2001.cfm
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/wm1309.cfm
You're posting links from the heritage foundation, but you accuse me of spin?
oh that's rich!
They're pro-Intelligent Design; It's safe to ignore whatever other positions they hold as well.
Obama, it's too late. Why didn't you show this kind of leadership earlier. The reasons it's gonna die are:
1. Americans don't really want it. Some days ago, some people who didn't have health care said on CNN SOTU with John King that they didn't want it.
2. All the ads I have been seen so far on TV are those distorting health care reform, none to promote health care.
3. The media are funded by these health care industries, so the media are confusing people on this matter and distorting it.
4. Obama did not show any leadership earlier, even as Dem leaders demanded him to do so.
5. Bipartisanship is not a way of getting things done.
A new president is gonna get health care done, not Obama. I supported him, but his handling of all domestic issues are very bad so far. Why can't he run the country like ran his campaign??
That's all folks .. you heard it from the MAN ... he expects a bill that makes sense ! Repubs can take their "waterloo" and sti ck it ... it's not President Obama's failure they want .. it's the people of this nation they want to suffer !
Inertia ridden reprobates !
It's over. Great news.
oh yeah, thank god the insurance companies get to continue charging exorbitant amounts for health care. and then denying anything they choose to. how much are they paying you.
It's just begun and after reading your posts it's going to be a miserable eight years ahead for you - YEAH!!!!
Nov. 4, 2008 ... that's the day it was over for reThugs ... keep up !
The thugs really don't care about us. All they want to do is constantly critize and complain. Like the President said, it's not about politics. It's about the American people. The thugs are on this thing about a waterloo if this fails for this administration which shows that they only see health care as some kind of a game. This is sick politics that's affecting real people. Throw the bums out!
Small business can't afford to pay health bennies so people have to work for Government or Big Business.
Why do ALL repubs hate small business ?
Why are ALL repubs against entrepreneurial spirit ?
and how does it make us more competative internationally when we put the burden on our companies?
It doesn't , it makes us less competitive, but ALL righties ignore that.
A new GAO report [PDF] has made some news by reporting that large fractions of both U.S.-controlled and foreign-controlled corporations report no liabilities under the federal corporate income tax. In 2005, 25% of "large" U.S.-controlled corporations and 67% of all U.S.-controlled corporations reported no tax liability; foreign-controlled corporations reported no tax liability at roughly similar rates (slightly higher overall for GAO's study period).
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08957.pdf
Why aren't big businesses paying any taxes???
Because they dont care about this country anymore....
Because they can get away with not paying any taxes. And if they can get away with reaming out the entirety of the American populace so that their profits triple or quadruple, they'll do that too. Big Health is corporate America ripping all of us off because they can. We need to put an end to that, right now. President Obama cannot do it alone.
Too many tax breaks from Congress to them. Remember, big business supports Congress to help them win their seats and have tax paid retirement and health care for life even if they only serve one term. How about your retirement and health care. Is it for life after you've only "worked" for four years?
And, they hate affirmative action since "more women" benefit from just that !!
Good point. I would rather have the money go to "wise Latina women" than the male bafoons that wouldn't know "wise" if it hit them up the side of the head!!
Did Obama rescue small business or big business?. Did Obama help the middle class or the poor?. Or did Obama simply ensure the salaries and bonuses of the wealthiest in America
If Obama were ensuring the salaries and bonuses of the wealthy, there wouldn't be the outrage expressed by the GOP that we are seeing now. It takes a lot of money to run all the fear-based TV ads we've seen.
Insurance Companies and Big Pharma wouldn't spend 1.5 million a day to stop health care reform as they clearly are. That's just the money that we know about, who knows what's happening under the table.
It was Obama that told the car manufacturers to stop with the private jets and prepare a smaller business model because the old model was obsolete. Hello - your market share has shrunk. The car executives had acted as though they didn't know.
The Obama Admin caused the banks receiving the Bush initiated TARP funds to hurry up and repay the government because they did not want the regulations that Obama imposed on them once he took office. He's not the friend of these guys and they know it.
As I recall the world best entrepeneurs flourished under Reagan and republicans a s Presidents.
have you heard of Walmart, Apple, Microsoft. silicon valley.
what entrepenurial spirit will flourish under Obama. Businesses that will fit the requirement of causing people not to pay penalties for not having insurance
Bill Moyers spoke with Wendell Potter, a former health insurance executive who left the industry to become an advocate for health care reform. Potter discussed the industry’s history of denying care to members and its extensive efforts to prevent the federal government from creating a “public option” for health insurance to compete with private plans.
Potter said:
“The industry has always tried to make Americans think that government-run systems are the worst thing that could possibly happen to them, that if you even consider that you're heading down the slippery slope towards socialism... I think that people who are strong advocates of our health care system remaining as it is, very much a free market health care system, fail to realize that we're really talking about human beings here, and it doesn't work as well as they would like it to... They are trying to make you worry and fear a government bureaucrat being between you and your doctor. What you have now is a corporate bureaucrat between you and your doctor... The public plan would do a lot to keep [health insurance companies] honest, because it would have to offer a standard benefit plan. It would have to operate more efficiently, as does the Medicare program. It would be structured, I’m certain, on a level playing field so that it wouldn’t [have an] unfair advantage [over] the private insurance companies. Because it could be administered more efficiently, the private insurers would have to operate more efficiently.”
Potter was on the Ed Show last week - in fact he should be everywhere right now telling his story.
Is Potter being paid for these appearances. Is he selling a book.
I don't really care if advocates for the current system use rhetoric to fight government run healthcare. All I need to see is the high deficits of the current government run system (Medicare, Medicaid) as well as the fact a large percentage of healthcare providers refuse Medicare patients because the reimbursement doesn't cover their costs. That's enough to convince me the government option will create more problems than it solves.
COVERME: Such rapier~like wit! I'm impressed.
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Simple question. How is it that torturing humans with insects is humane, and health care for Americans is not?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS331&q=bybee+insect+torture&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
Your the heroine/$lasher from "Play misty for me"
Aren't you?
RSU
Who's whining? I'm just here to help open your eyes.
As for getting ones way, Dem's have had their hand on the wheel of our nation for far longer and are always turning in left handed circles . . . doing the same thing while expecting a different result.
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Hardly! Even Clinton jumped on the deregulation bandwagon, and look where it's gotten us! Reagan led the charge into economic insanity, and now we face people who still believe tax cuts work despite no evidence to support the claim.
MY eyes are open. Are YOURS?
"and now we face people who still believe tax cuts work despite no evidence to support the claim."
OMG, where have you been? It's worked each and everytime it's been tried.
I'm betting you can't find a time when a tax cut had the opposite effect.
That's not hard to do. The last administration tried it.
worked how? by causing trillions in deficit?
http://www.politicsandcurrentaffairs.co.uk/Forum/peak-oil-economics-environment/24190-debunking-laffer-curve.html
Just look at the historical record of top marginal tax rates. Tax cuts preceded every recession and the great depression.
LOL!!!
FACT FREE ZONE!!!
"Every major social advance is surrounded by controversy and conflict. That's because every time there is change in the status quo there are winners and losers. The controversy over President Obama's health care reform does not center mainly on "differences in approach" or academic disagreements over the way that health care systems should be designed in some ideal world. They center instead on battles over wealth and power - just as they did when the Congress created Social Security or Medicare, or passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964."- Robert Creamer in HuffPo
All the small Republicans like Steele, Kristol and Jindahl are crawling out of the woodwork, sensing a potential weakness among Democrats and using all those scary words like "socialism." Let's send them back where they came from. Call your Congresspeople.
"I'm going to Washington, and I'm taking Joe the Plumber with me. And his name isn't Joe and he's not a plumber, but thats OK cause I haven't said or done one rational thing during this entire campaign."
- John McCain.
Children with health care lack motivation , and also children that eat food.
LOL!
Yep, that's the conservative theory.
Every Man for Himself.
(Emphasis on "man".)
WIC
Wha?
Core conservative ideology.
rotflmao!!!
That's our cons.....
Have their parents work.
another botched comment.
I'd like to know, are poor white people lazy and indigent? Are they included in that category?
Thanks.
Yes!
Have some more Night Train!
What's that?
You go ahead.You seem parched.
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First Posted: 07-19-09 08:21 PM | Updated: 07-19-09 09:40 PM