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First Posted: 07-19-09 08:27 AM   |   Updated: 08-19-09 05:12 AM

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Hello, fellow Muggles, and welcome to this week's edition of your Sunday Morning Liveblog, your weekly, occasionally witty rundown of the week in political monkeyshines and the Hollow Men who rend their garments over it, whilst you sleep off your Saturday Night USA. My name is Jason, and I will be your sherpa. Today! Well...today we'll have many of the same topics as last week, and, indeed, many of the same conversations. But today! We'll also have the people on our teevee attempt to wrap themselves in the corpse of Walter Cronkite. It could get disgusting, watching all these people who fail miserably at living up to his legacy claim to be inspired by him. But that is what our Gag Reflexes are for, and why we keep a fresh paper bag by our sides each morning, when these shows come on. (I also use mine in case the kitties vomit, something which may or may not be related to these shows, I don't know, cats, they tend to vomit.)

Anyway, as always, leave a comment, send a missive my way via email -- like fans of Pat Buchanan and Glenn Beck do! (I have learned this week, for example, that I am a "dirty Jew" who should "kill myself" which sounds delightful, God bless you, fans of Pat Buchanan and Glenn Beck, I have decided to become a Kabbalist.) -- or follow me on the Twitters. Let us relax, sit back, and enjoy our first show, FOX NEWS SUNDAY AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN.

FOX NEWS SUNDAY

So, right off the bat we have Peter Orszag, so, I hope you ladies are up early. I know that many of you can barely contain yourselves when he busts out the mad wonk and starts discussing budget figures and cost overruns.

Wallace is all: "Damn, Peter, Douglas Elmendorf thinks your health care reform package is going to be a massive turdie, budget wise!" Orszag says, "Well we won't sign a bill that expands the deficit." (I assume he means long term.) He says that the CBO analysis looks good and that there are other parts of the program coming into play that will lower costs. Additional steps that will make it "better than deficit neutral" include AWESOME COMMISSIONS OF DOCTORS COMMISSIONING.

What about the crazy TAXAPOCALYPSE! About 1.2% of America will have to pay higher taxes! Like they do in Denmark! By the way, Denmark: REALLY GOOD SOCIAL POLICY THERE.

What will happen to the teensy portion of small businesses, that may have to pay extra, so that people can have the sort of health care that will keep them from dying. Orszag points out that they are working to save the economy so that people will buy the products made and dols by small businesses. I'm guessing the whole LESS PEOPLE DYING OF TREATABLE ILLNESSES AND INJURIES will probably boost their bottom line as well.

What about taxing health care benefits? Ruled out? "It's something the President doesn't favor." Because of unions? UHM, HOPEFULLY BECAUSE HE MOCKED HIS ELECTION OPPONENT FOR PROPOSING IT, REPEATEDLY.

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Wallace then asks if a commitee of doctors will be telling health care providers WHO WILL LIVE AND WHO WILL DIE, like a health care Star Chamber from the depths of Roger Ailes paranoid fantasia? Orszag says, "that's the biggest canard out there," and that's saying something, because there are some BIG CANARDS out there.

Is Peter Orszag prepared TODAY, to tell America that the public funded health plan will not include abortion? He's "not prepared to rule it out." Great news for women, I guess! No one is prepared to rule out your personhood!

Why was Peter Orszag so WRONG about unemployment numbers? He says, "almost everyone was wrong about the economy." He says that you cannot go from massive losses to massive gains in a fingersnap. "It's going to take time to work our way out of this."

Meanwhile, Judd Gregg! Remember when this guy was almost in the administration? What a wild time in our lives that was. Anyway, guess what, he thinks Doug Elmendorf is a wise and sage individual. "Those were pretty damning words," he says.

Gregg says that taxpayers should not have to pay for abortions, if they find it immoral. OKAY, THEN! GIVE ME MY IRAQ WAR MONEY BACK, PLEASE?

Wallace asks if the status quo on health care is acceptable, Gregg says no, and the GOP have three plans that they are pretending will work. Gregg says that the current plans "put bureaucracy between you and your doctor and will lead to rationing in the end," which makes me want whatever health care plan Gregg has, because my health care plan right now puts a massive bureaucracy between me and my doctor and which rations health care out the yangles, and which keeps me in dread that one day there's going to be something put on my chart somewhere that will cause an alarm to go off, dropping me from the crappy health care I do have. See, I'd listen to Gregg and people like him if they'd stop pretending that American health care is something that it isn't.

I think though, that Gregg's health care plan is called, Being An Impossibly Rich Lawmaker With Many Many Lobbyists To Orally Stimulate On A Daily Basis.

Anyway, their plan would be for young people to stay indestructible, and pay one third of their alreay tiny incomes for catastrophic care, because who needs good preventative care. Also, the plan is for our streets to be clogged with dessperate and sick illegal immigrants. It's a blighted hellscape of the dead and dying and impoverished, but Judd Gregg will still enjoy gold-plated care, thanks to me.

Anyway, Panel Time! I'm assuming the Buzz Aldrin section was more celebratory than newsy. And anyway, Charles Krauthammer is on today, so this will get INTERPLANETARY real quick.

One thing I share with Bill Kristol, and sympathize with him on, is the inability to smile naturally on camera when introduced. Like him, I sort of make this, "I'm holding back some serious farts" face, which I think is preferable to Juan Williams' "Look at meeee! I am farting!" face or Krauthammer's "I, myself, am a collection of noxious gas that has somehow formed a rubbery skin" face.

WHERE ARE WE ON HEALTH CARE? Kristol says the Democrats' plan "is in trouble." This, of course, means that it's in good shape. "What is the case for doing it this year?" Kristol bitches. UHM, the MORTALITY OF POOR PEOPLE?

Liasson says the White House might "lose the narrative." OH NO! THE NARRATIVE! FIND IT! HURRY! This great nation needs our narratives found! We are a giant KINDLE OF POLITICS! I hope Walter Cronkite cuts a deal with Jesus to spit celestial tar at every newsperson who worried about narratives.

Meanwhile, Krauthammer says that everyone is getting taxed and that Elmendorf "exploded the entire rationale of his plan." Juan Williams HAS A SAD because he's been hugging conservadems this week and they are SAD PANDAS, who only want to pass something that won't really work but that comes larded with the magical powers of BIPARTISANSHIP, which makes everything better.

Then Williams yells the word "point" about a million times! "The point is this is not the point, point point McPoint!"

Liasson says that this calls the legislative strategy of the White House into question. DUH.

Kristol says the country will not get a health care bill, and that's great for the country, because maybe some people will finally learn to achieve immortality by pulling themselves up by their bootstraps.

Meanwhile, OLD MEN WHO LOOK LIKE LESBIANS PARTY WITH SOTOMAYOR. What does everything mean? Wallace is like, "Wow, she contradicted everything she ever said about race!" which is something you can say if "everything she said" is NOT an entire career of legal judgements and instead is the three words "wise Latina woman." By the way, if the Congress says "wise Latina woman" fifty times, area Five Guys will be giving out free hamburgers, so let's keep our fingers crossed that our Congress is filled with dim-bulb morons who glom onto one idea, milk it to death, and then brainlessly stumble to their next committee assignment as powerful lobbyists tell them what to say, because they are hollow sacks of human filth but HEY FREE HAMBURGERS MAYBE SO PLEASE KEEP SAYING "WISE LATINA WOMAN" YOU TERRIBLE HUSKS!

Liasson says Sotomayor did all the things that SCOTUS nominees do, which is humor this jackasses in the Senate by allowing them to ask their idiot questions, and do nothing controversial.

Wallace asks, "Have these hearing become a waste of time?" YES. And maybe if you TURNED THE CAMERAS OFF, which just encourage these popinjays to MUG FOR THEM, it would become valuable again. THINK ABOUT IT.

Anyway, Juan WIlliams says the GOP did a "good job attacking Sotomayor, making her out to be a quota queen." YES. SHREWD LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY. That will serve them well with all the Latina women Obama is sure to nominate.

Naturally, Bill Kristol thinks the value of Walter Cronkite has to do with the ratings he got. So does Liasson. Krauthammer says something I'm not even remotely interested in transcribing. Williams says he didn't pander and was a real newsman and "we all honor that," even though no one on this panel actually does honor that, GAH SHUT UP ALL OF YOU.

FACE THE NATION

Health care reform! Are discussions of health care reform the nations' leading sickness? I think maybe! If not then, then now, because it's Charles Rangel and Orrin Hatch, z-listers both. Harry Smith is all: HAVE YOU BOTCHED THIS JOB? Rangel says, no, "at the end of the day, we'll have health care for the country." Will taxing the rich fly with Republicans, Smith asks Hatch. WHY EVEN HAVE THIS SHOW? Of course taxing the rich will not fly with Orrin Hatch! The rich need tax cuts, all of them! Then Hatch laments the fact that everything's become "so political." Also, it's all "going too fast." WHY ALL THE URGENCY? IT'S JUST HEALTH CARE.

Anyway, Harry Smith, really wants America to try--really, REALLY try--to think about what it's like in the United States today to be an impossibly wealthy person! SO MANY DEMANDS! Have you thanked a rich person today? YOU BETTER.

Rangel says that everyone in the House is waiting for the Senate to do ANYTHING. Orrin Hatch is like, GOD OUR HEALTH CARE IS AWESOME. Somehow, long waits and constant denials of care are just BETTER when they are American. The men who settled this nation dragged themselves off into the woods to die from easily treatable infections, and so can all of us!

Rangel points out the the GOP is involved, and that Chuck Grassley hands out at the White House all the time, and so they cannot deny that they are playing a role in shaping the bill. He's right: what usually happens is that the Democrats bend over backwards and allow all sorts of amendments to the bill from the other side, and then they don't vote for it. It's awesome, the political process! And then there's the whole LET'S FILIBUSTER EVERYTHING IN THE SENATE NOW, which Rangel is just laughing about, like a jackass, but it's really just rendering both houses of Congress impossibly useless.

John Glenn and Bob Schieffer are here to talk about Walter Cronkite. Astronauts! Anyway, Glenn says that Cronkite was a really great friend to the Space Program. Schieffer says that American's trusted Cronkite because he was a reporter, "on the scene," whose "suntan" didn't some from "studio lights" and a few other darlings that are difficult to transcribe.

"Was Walter Cronkite in the right place at the right time?" Smith asks. The answer, "Yes." These inquiries are truly advancing our understanding of the news business!

"When [Cronkite] said somebody died, they died, and you didn't have to put flowery language around it." IRONY!

John Glenn says Cronkite was friendly and had a "lot of jokes" and he wanted to be an astronaut himself. He "may have sent a letter" wanting to go up in space. Laying hands on that would be a newsy thing! Make it happen, NASA.

Harry Smith assures us that Cronkite was not an "Accidental Tourist" or a "Zelig" or an "American Werewolf In London" or someone who'd be "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" or was "Lost in Translation" or a "Spaceballs."

Cronkite "spoke truth to power" about the Vietnam War. Schieffer says that it meant something because "Walter seldom took a stand on something," which must mean that everyone in news is a Cronkite now because no one ever takes stands on anything.

Harry Smith thinks it's "audacious" for reporters to "contradict" powerful people. It should be de rigeur, but it isn't. They also praise Cronkite for going on the scene, asking people to be sources, and getting an informed opinion about an issue. THAT'S FUNNY, because in HOURS AND HOURS of discussion of health care reform, I've yet to see any of these people even bother to seek out even one opinion from even one American who is living with no health care in this country. But I do see a lot of nodding about how the US has the "best health care in the world," all from people who happen to be lucky enough to be receiving it! They were all busy sending Mark Sanford emails that read, "DEAR MARK SANFORD: I HAVE POSITIONED MYSELF ON ALL FOURS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE ME?"

ANYWAY WHAT GLENN SAID ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

MEET THE PRESS

God, all you need to know about what a crapfountain David Gregory is in his introduction: "The view from top Republican Mitch McConnell...will health care reform be BIPARTISAN." Not, will it be effective. Not, does McConnell/Obama have any ideas that are strong on the merits, and if so what are they? Just, "OMG! WILL SWEET SWEET BIPARTISANSHIP SAUCE BE LADLED ONTO AMERICA!?"

But first, Kathleen Sebellius. And Elmendorf! Will costs be contained? We should do nothing, maybe? AGHH! Sebellius says that the package will be full of recommendations that will help to bend the cost curve or whatever. BUT ELMENDORF, MY GOD! Sebellius says, that the status quo is unsustainable and must be addressed. BUT ELMENDORF, MY GOD! Was Gregory unable to get Elmendorf on this show? he can be questioned, as well, you know!

WAS IT A WAKE UP CALL? Sebellius says, UHM NOT REALLY. "There's no scoring right now for the things we know will save money long term."

Maybe it would just be awesome to LOWER COSTS on Americans that go into debt getting baseline care?

Universality, Sebellius is not a priority, but it must "cover all Americans," which, I DON'T KNOW, seems like a CONTRADICTION!

David Gregory is in fine form today! I don't think there's anything in the world that makes him happier than the thought of health care reform failing. He is like a Girl Scout anticipating the next batch of Dosidos!

"WHY WOULDN'T EVERYBODY CHOOSE A PUBLIC PLAN?" Gregory asks. I don't know! WHY DOESN'T EVERYBODY BY THE GENERIC MEDICATIONS AT CVS? Seriously! They are the SAME EXACT DRUGS. Yet somehow, Advil gets sold. There are generic brands of everything at grocery stores. Somehow, brand names get bought. Probably because some are better, probably because PEOPLE LIKE STATUS. Anyway, I think that will drive people to private insurance plans: 1) Some will find competitive ways of outpacing the public plan, and 2) Some will simply say, WHAT ARE YOU, A POOR PERSON? DON'T LET YOUR FRIENDS THINK YOU ARE SOME SORT OF WRETCH WHO NEEDS POOR PEOPLE CARE? HAHAHA, DON'T BE A LOSER. David Gregory will probably personally shill for such wares.

Gregory and Sebellius get into a row about whether people would get to keep the doctors and care they have, which is a matter I do think the White House has been more than a little disingenuous about but which once again ELIDES THE LARGER POINT, that right now, through whim and tricksy circumstance, you could, at any time, lose the doctors you have and the care you're getting! I would love to have simply kept seeing the same old allergist I'd been seeing for years, but guess what, suddenly I could not, without spending a bloody fortune! And then it took two years to find another one! But health care isn't RATIONED, no no! I loved the health care I had where I paid ten dollars for prescriptions, but now I don't have that anymore! So what Gregory presents as problems, I see as "the current crap we lucky few who are allowed to have health care in this country have." And it's crap, but so far it keeps me basically alive, and so, it'd be great if everyone could just have access to the live-giving crap that I have, instead of just having asthma attacks and hoping for the best!

Like this. GREGORY: "Will Americans accept the fact that there are some limits to what the government will pay for?"

SEBELLIUS: "There are limits right now."

Reporting live, from DUH, is David Gregory.

Gregory is up in arms about the tax that will be levied on Americans. Let's see exactly how brutal this tax will be!

OH NO! THIS IS OBVIOUSLY MARXISM.

But Sebellius has apparently been given instructions to not just say, "OMG THESE FILTHY RICH PEOPLE WILL BE OKAY, REALLY, AND SO WILL JOBS." So, instead we get long, drawn out hemming and hawwing.

GREGORY: "He thinks upper income Americans should shoulder most of the burden."

ME: "UHM, THE 'BURDEN' IS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE GETTING SICK, WITH NO DOCTORS. With that in mind, I think that upper income Americans will be shouldering almost NO burden."

Sebellius says that by mid-October, we might have a swine-flu vaccine, which will make watching David Gregory much easier.

Now it's time fro Gregory to sit down with Plutocracy's Wingman, Senator Mitch McConnell. What does he think about the timing of the bill? McConnell says that neither bill should be passed, that their "rush and spend," and that OMGZ TEH DEFICITS WHICH I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BUILDING! "What we truly need is a bipartisan proposal, by which I mean either watered down junk or massive sops to the insurance industry."

Gregory wags his foolish little tail, nods along and asks, "Will it not get passed? PLEASE SAY IT WON'T GET PASSED." McConnell says he thinks it shouldn't. Gregory says, OH YEAH, DID YOU HEAR HOW SEBELLIUS TRIED TO ANSWER THAT?

"Let me just tell you is flawed about their whole approach, David," McConnell says, spitting canards about how Canadians all wish they could have our awesome health care system. Let's keep in mind that while he has Sebellius on, Gregory was constantly interrupting here, peppering her with questions. What does McConnell get? He gets to complete his sentences -- his melodramatic sentences -- withourt question.

MCCONNELL: Surveys say* that Americans overwhelmingly like their health care.

*WHAT SURVEYS? SOURCE? SOURCE? SHOW THE MATH? SHOW THE QUESTION? CITE THE ORGANIZATION WHO CONDUCTED IT?

Gregory, finally attempting actual reporting, asks McConnell if that isn't just a myth that we have the best health care in the world. He reads from an op-ed penned by Shannon Brownlee and Ezekeil Emanuel that somehow made it into the Washington Post past Fred Hiatt's all-nonsense-all-the-time policy.

MCCONNELL: That's one expert!

Uhm, it's actually, TWO EXPERTS. TWO. Counting: it's important to be able to do, to run the country.

MCCONNELL: If you look at the surveys....

WHAT SURVEYS? SOURCE? SOURCE? SHOW THE MATH? SHOW THE QUESTION? CITE THE ORGANIZATION WHO CONDUCTED IT?

MCCONNELL: ...they don't think quality is the problem. They think cost and access are the problem.

Cost and access being two things that make our health care system of very low quality!

McConnell says that Safeway will save us! They are fighting smoking, and obesity! And yet, I bet if I go to the Safeway, ten minutes from my apartment, I will be able to buy cigarettes and pork rinds!

Gregory reads Ted Kennedy's op-ed aloud, for the sake of sentimentality. He attempts a complicated metaphor about the auto industry abotu Ford whining about how the government's intervention in Chrysler and GM's financing is undercutting their own, and this proves that the private industries will all collapse. Except that people are still buying Toyotas and Hondas and BMWs and VWs and whatnot, so maybe it's really Ford, who's selling cars nobody wants, because they are terrible? YES THIS IS THE CASE. I concede that government intervention in an industry will be of no benefit to anyone who'd like to get rich manufacturing or selling crap that everybody hates, and that this is too bad.

McConnell says the stimpak has failed and that there should be no more stimulus. What would he do? Gregory doesn't ask. Instead, he asks why he won't support Sotomayor, to which he says she won't be an umpire and call balls and strikes.

McConnell is disturbed by anyone who would force an American soldier to say bad things about the country under duress, but really, Mitch! Those are just "enhanced interrogation techniques!" Dick Cheney says that's all okay.

Gregory says wow, it's do or die time for health care, and it's so exciting that it's not working. The president is in "campaign mode." CAMPAIGNS ARE SHINY. Why can't more Americans stop being sick and learn to embrace the healing powers of the SHINY. Gigot points out that Democrats won't be able to bring themselves to do the right thing unless everyone's approval ratings are totally high and everyone's assured of re-election, and THAT IS BASICALLY TRUE.

Norris notes that it's the last-minute horse trading that makes legislation worse. I think it's "allowing Ben Nelson to talk about stuff and try to do things" that ruins legislation. Seriously, Ben Nelson belongs in a high-chair so that he doesn't hurt anyone.

Richard Wolffe says Obama has to be unconventional...different...not normal...there's a word, I think...that best sums it up...OH YEAH! RENEGADE. Make it about pocketbooks, like a RENEGADE. RENEGADE THAT STUFF. SOMEBODY ALREADY USED THE WORD "MAVERICK." SO LET'S GET RENEGADEY!

Harwood wonder how anyone will be able to get the public to credit the Obama administration for economic gains that lad behind the present moment? UHM, IF HE DESERVES CREDIT, YOU COULD REPORT IT AS SUCH.

Now, Richard Wolffe is talking abour how awesome Obama is doing in Michigan, because of all the RENEGADING.

Okay, this is the worst segue in the history of the news industry:

GREGORY: [with beaming, schoolgirl excitement] You talk about health care and you talk about the economy and it just leads you to start thinking about the campaign and opposition from Hillary Clinton and then all of the questions about the Secretary of State who is now, uhhh...in India sort of off the injured list here and her elbow in better shape and so she was in India in a deplomitic [I think he means to say, "DIPLOMATIC" but the word that came out of his mouth was "DEPLOMITIC"] mission over this weekend this is what the AP wrote on Wednesday about Hillary Clinton falling off center stage...

And then he reads an article from the AP, for some reason. But read that transition! Who wrote that goddamned thing? Sarah Palin? YIKES.

Michele Norris says, "I think that too much has been made of this Obama versus Clinton narrative." I think that too much is being made of MEET THE PRESS' ability to WRITE A NARRATIVE.

Wolffe says that all the principals like one another, but that the staffs are rancorous jerks.

David Gregory says that it was awesome to be able to afford to take his son to the All-Star Game (and to afford health care for his family, presumably) and he thinks it's great that rich baseball players deigned to shake the hands of people who do community service! WHY IT WAS A NEAT MOMENT WHERE RICH CELEBRITIES PRETENDED THAT MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE HAD ACTUAL HUMANITY AND IT WAS SUPER NEAT! "As a dad sitting in the stands, I thought that this is what's wholesome about baseball." And then those community service went home and struggled to pay their health care bills, BUT WHAT A TEACHABLE MOMENT FOR DAVID GREGORY.

Oh, and look, if you think for one second I am going to sit here and listen to what David Gregory has to say about Walter Cronkite's legacy, the answer is NO, NOT FOR ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD. I am going to save David Gregory's thoughts on Walter Cronkite for the time of my death, so that me and Walter Cronkite and Jesus can all gather by the celestial cathode ray device and have a good laugh. Then I'll faithfully wait for my wife to arrive so that we can try out "angel sex."

Anyway, tra la. That is all for this week in the life of our Sunday mornings. Now for the BAD NEWS! The BAD NEWS is that do to some important Huff Post team maneuvers, related to an office move, I will be unable to bring you a live blog next Sunday. THIS WILL BE PRACTICE FOR WHEN I GO ON VACATION! However, I will be putting up a post like always on the site, so that those of you who watch the shows, read along, and kick it with each other in the comments can continue to do so. What I think would be great, is if any of you happens upon the sort of important news story during the week that so often gets ingnored on Sunday, send me an email and I'll toss it in the post as something to discuss. Think about this as an opportunity to program your own Sunday morning show.

Again, very sorry I will be away next week. BUT YOU WILL SURVIVE, provided you have health insurance. Have a great week.

Hello, fellow Muggles, and welcome to this week's edition of your Sunday Morning Liveblog, your weekly, occasionally witty rundown of the week in political monkeyshines and the Hollow Men who rend the...
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- jrb I'm a Fan of jrb permalink

The millionaire journalists are trying to derail health insurance reform. They are not middle class they
masquerade being middle class.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 07/19/2009
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7/19/09
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Sunny Isles Beach, FL

Of course you are much more entertaining than the Sunday shows but what bothers me is that you are also much more truthful.
Why don't you start a Sunday show which interviews real people. You could have an unemployed person on, a person with no health care, and a person who is homeless for starters That would be informative and could be fun if you get people who have a sense of humor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 07/19/2009
- PR one I'm a Fan of PR one 25 fans permalink
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There has been a few trust worthy reporters. Among them there is a someone who is highly on my list. He is Dan Rather. Some one who in my opinion was set up with the help of his superiors at CBS. He was one who was not afraid to ask the tough questions. No matter which party was in control. As we witness during the Democratic National Convention in Chicago where he was beaten up and during the Viet Nam war where he chose to be with the regular soldier at the front, and see for himself what was really happening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 07/19/2009
- Decipherer I'm a Fan of Decipherer 113 fans permalink

The cowards at CBS News who threw Dan Rather under the bus during the Cheeney administration under pressure in the run-up to the war ON Iraq should be ashamed of themselves, but that is not possible.

When the time came to stand up and be counted at a critical moment in our history, they folded like a cheap tent.

There may have been mistakes in the investigation into George W. Bush's going AWOL during his Alabama Air National Guard "duty," but the story was quite true and needed to be reported.

I'm sure Edward R. Murrow spun in his grave to see a true journalist like Rather be subjected to that treatment by what once was the genuine television and broadcast news organization in the United States.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 07/19/2009
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Don't forget Phil Donahue as another one who was thrown under the bus.

The cheap thrills crowd who live at all the networks are a disgrace and un-American. I knew when CBS dumped Rather that the powers and Bush family had given orders to take him down. How far down have we become in this country when the ratings are strong for the Hannitys, O'Rileys, Becks and the Lou Dobbs of CNN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 07/19/2009
- apoyo I'm a Fan of apoyo 41 fans permalink

It's Orwellian.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 07/19/2009

What really is the purpose of these Sunday shows anyway? Before the election , they were ok enough but for the last 6 months they have been, -
1)much nothingness displayed,
2)all the hosts on all the shows appear stale, dated, and laboured...they haven't grown
3) the guests/pundits just talk,talk talk,....oppose,oppose,oppose and say the same predictable things over and over, much to the chagrin of the listener!

It's high time to evolve, people! Your audience is all tuckered out with the stagnancy. Some fresh dynamic and upgrading is deserving of John Public.
Thanks in advance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 07/19/2009
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*Rush and spend...*

*Rush and spend...*

I know I've heard this somewhere before....OH YEAH THE INVASION AND DISMAL OCCUPATION OF IRAQ.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 07/19/2009
- apoyo I'm a Fan of apoyo 41 fans permalink

They have to mention their dear leader: Rush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 07/19/2009
- tlgeiger62 I'm a Fan of tlgeiger62 61 fans permalink
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If healthcare reform doesn't pass, the FIRST thing we need to do is remove healthcare for Congress. Let all the geezers with their PRE-EXISTING conditions, fend for themselves and see how it goes.

There are enough old geezers that we might be able to CLEAN HOUSE just doing this one little thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 07/19/2009
- TN60 I'm a Fan of TN60 141 fans permalink
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I'll second that....and I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen. People are fed up with the sleezy Washington ways of doing business. We should fire the whole bunch and see that they don't get any pension or health insurance when they are dumped.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 07/19/2009
- PR one I'm a Fan of PR one 25 fans permalink
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We have, what the Health Care Industrial Complex do not have. We have the votes. The Democrats have the numbers now in both houses to pass a bill that the voters demand. If they don't deliver, than it's up to the voters to whoever votes with the NO party, is denied the vote when they come for re-election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 07/19/2009

The same health care plan available to the congress/senate should be available to the American people; at the same cost. They supposedly work for us; so it's ridiculous that the employees have better health care than the employer. I know that's simplifying, it but there you go. Besides your not going to get the straight story from ferret face McConnell; I'm from Louisville, Ky. I should know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 07/19/2009
- PR one I'm a Fan of PR one 25 fans permalink
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Does Gregory goes to PLAYER meeting at C STREET.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 07/19/2009
- slc1950 I'm a Fan of slc1950 17 fans permalink
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Did you mean prayer? But player is more accurate. Lol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 07/19/2009
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I am very much hoping healthcare gets passed. HOWEVER, if it does NOT happen, people really need to get their affairs in order. And I'm not trying to be funny.

I'm starting to make my peace with the fact that my life is simply not going to be what I thought it was going to be despite doing "all the right things". It's a bitter pill.

But what I'm having a harder time accepting is that my 9 yr old daughter won't have the life I wanted for her. As a result, my focus now is on putting aside as much money as I can for her because if I get sick with something serious, I no longer know that I will be able to get medical care. And I have to prepare for that.

And if I have to choose spending thousands on MY healthcare or HER future, I will choose the latter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 07/19/2009

Your last thought has been my thought for some time now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 07/19/2009
- ljc I'm a Fan of ljc 128 fans permalink

Me too. I refuse to buy healthcare now.I havn't had it for over 3 years. I will wait for Medicare. I have less than 3 years to go. Thankfully, I am healthy. I took early retirement at 57 and jumped on Social Security at 62. All my money is in hiding for my children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 07/19/2009
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 76 fans permalink
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David Gregory's definition of "Hard-Hitting Journalism":

"I bring on Democrats and ask them loaded, antagonistic questions, talk over their answers--and repeat the questions as if they didn't adequately address them or are dishonest or inept.

Then I bring on a Republican to hit them hard again!"

That's now the meaning of "Hard-hitting", MTP-style.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 07/19/2009
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Yes but he always attacks and interupts the Emocrats and defers to the Republicans. Kinda makes me ill. Hard to watch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 07/19/2009
- ljc I'm a Fan of ljc 128 fans permalink

Good Grief. Any American with health insurance could loose it on any given day. Your current doctor could drop dead. Your current employer that offers insurance could dump it, change providers or fire or lay you off. Your current plan could force "In Network providers or procedures or medications on a whim." Anytime a plan is up for renewal any portion of the covered benefits could change . Do they really think we are so uninformed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 07/19/2009
- cseper I'm a Fan of cseper 5 fans permalink

Why not have people on the Sunday talk shows, who don't have good health care plans, giving their opinions!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 07/19/2009

Because David Greg..y would then be flummoxed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 07/19/2009
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Let's remember that most of them are also in Unions. Radio or Television that pick up the balances after the primary pays. They are a bunch of frauds. I remember Bob Beckle telling Hannity on his radio show that he had a pre-existing condition and Fox insurance would not let him enroll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 07/19/2009

Repubs must have turned against business. That used to be the reason all the jobs were encouraged to go overseas. Our god awful health care costs. Giant corporations must pay the best for our elected w-----.

Jason..I really like your writing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 07/19/2009
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Repugs have evolved away from supporting business to supporting the shareholders.

Though some of the knuckle-dragging bipeds don't know it, they ain't the same thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 07/19/2009
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Where were the "Dick" Gregory's of this World when then President Bush was pushing this Nation into an unnecessary war? Even thought there were plenty of people with facts contradicting the President Bush position, yet the mass media was beating the administrations drum for war. So much, that they were hiring the Pentagon spokespeople. Retire Military personnel who had financial tie to the Military. Who were getting their talking instruction at the Pentagon, which they use as facts over the airwaves. At the same time the Bush admi. with the help of the media was giving the assumption that it was un-american to be against the war. I always found fascinating how it was possible that on the same weekend that Dick Cheney appeared on Meet the Press claiming that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, Judy Miller writes an article confirming Chaney's assumption. Today on "Meet the Press" at no time did I heard Gregory ask Mitch McConnell what did the Republicans do to reform Health Care during the Bush years. The right always talk of the Liberal media, but that is only to deflect attention of the fact that it is the Conservative Control Media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 07/19/2009
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Dancing, while Rome burned.

These are right-wing ideologues, not genuine journalists. It's all about getting the GOP talking points out.

It's pathetic how they never put the Republicans on the spot,, as you say, and grill them, "What's YOUR plan? How do YOU cut costs and accomplish these same goals?" etc.

They're pathetic..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 07/19/2009
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First you must define what "affordable" means; not with numerous examples of so-and-so got screwed on his hospital bill but something that we can all use and apply. Then we can all use that standard to see if the present system is or is not "affordable." I suspect that after such a comparison we will not want to change that aspect.
More likely all are concerned with pre-existing conditions and failure to cover doctor recommended drugs or procedures. I don't know anyone who is not in favor of "fixing" these issues. We might also consider the main reason for the pre-existing conditions feature of insurance policies: because people will buy insurance only when they are sick and then drop it when they get well. They game the system. That needs to be addressed.
Then there is the issue of insurance companies refusing treatment or drugs. In car and house insurance there is a concept called "assigned risk" which means the insurance company must insure you. We might find a way to apply market forces to add this idea to health insurance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 07/19/2009
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In my posting below at 12:32 I was trying to stimulate you all to consider the facts of the debate; namely that we all already have access to excellent healthcare and the debate is simply about who pays for it. My definition of affordable is broad: if your are paying for it then you can afford it. "Affordable" is a choice for most of us. Very few as a percent are left out (i.e. 10%).
The danger here is that we throw the "baby out with the bath water" or scrap the programs that most of us have and like (bell curve tale critics here nothwithstanding) for a government run program. In a recent Gallup poll over half (~56%) of Americans want to keep the insurance they have now. There is hardly a landslide of opinion demanding a sort of draconian health insurance change when people realize they won't get what they have now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 07/19/2009
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They will have the OPTION of keeping the insurance that they now have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 07/19/2009
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With the government as an insurance company there is no competition; there is only time until private insurers go out of business. I heard this morning that Ford is already complaining that GM (Government Motors) is already using the government to undercut the car financing so Ford can't get the same rates. This is government interference with the free market. When unchecked this will drive out all competition and leave a government monopoly. In this case choice or "OPTION" is like the words at the entrance to the nazi death camps "Arbeit Macht Frei"; a cruel admonition to the prisoners that if they would just work hard they would be free.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 07/19/2009
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 76 fans permalink
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There's a waiting list for liver transplants in Tennessee.

Steve Jobs got to the front of the line. He had access and others didn't.

How many hospital bills have you paid personally? Have you ever carried your own insurance and had the absurdly expensive monthly premiums AND huge deductibles -- for not-very-good coverage (but still--EXPENSIVE--after the insurance company disallows their responsibility for much of it and leaves you with tens of thousands of dollars owed?)

Oh, and then RAISES YOUR PREMIUMS? Or, as some have experienced, too--won't even insure you (certainly not at anything "affordable") because they can label something "pre-existing"?

How much have you experienced the health care system we have--and, more importantly the INSURANCE system we have--to say that its all "affordable" for "most of us"?

It. Isn't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 07/19/2009
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SCRAP medical insurance. That's the problem with our system. Get these FOR PROFIT blood suckers out of the loop. STOP forcing businesses to foot the health care bill. Then we could compete with the rest of the world and jobs would come back.

Everybody needs health care at some point in their life. Spread the risk over the whole population by covering everyone. Pay for it with an increase in Federal income tax.

Obama's approach is a good one, offering people a choice. Then we can let the market decide, no?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 07/19/2009
- AGarcia I'm a Fan of AGarcia 14 fans permalink

Poll schmole... judging politics by polls is called "mob rule".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 07/19/2009
- reddflagg I'm a Fan of reddflagg 10 fans permalink

Your assertion that "we all already have access to excellent healthcare and the debate is simply about who pays for it" is completely false, because it leaves out the cost for those who actually do have healthcare through private insurance: 17% of GDP here, 4% of GDP in Canada, around 5-7% of GDP in most other industrial democracies. In other words, we waste 10% to 13% of our GDP- 1.4 to 1.7 trillion per year. Imagine what it would mean to our economy to have an extra 1.4 trillion available to buy cars, appliances, houses, etc. Imagine what a burden it is on US industry to have that 1.4 trillion as overhead, something Canadian, German, Japanese manufacturers don't have. And that is with around 20% of our population not even participating. Imagine the lost work days due to preventable illness because our healthcare system does not cover them. No, go try to sell your argument with the repugs, they might like it because it serves their ends of protecting the health insurance mafia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 07/19/2009
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