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First Posted: 07-19-09 08:27 AM   |   Updated: 08-19-09 05:12 AM

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Hello, fellow Muggles, and welcome to this week's edition of your Sunday Morning Liveblog, your weekly, occasionally witty rundown of the week in political monkeyshines and the Hollow Men who rend their garments over it, whilst you sleep off your Saturday Night USA. My name is Jason, and I will be your sherpa. Today! Well...today we'll have many of the same topics as last week, and, indeed, many of the same conversations. But today! We'll also have the people on our teevee attempt to wrap themselves in the corpse of Walter Cronkite. It could get disgusting, watching all these people who fail miserably at living up to his legacy claim to be inspired by him. But that is what our Gag Reflexes are for, and why we keep a fresh paper bag by our sides each morning, when these shows come on. (I also use mine in case the kitties vomit, something which may or may not be related to these shows, I don't know, cats, they tend to vomit.)

Anyway, as always, leave a comment, send a missive my way via email -- like fans of Pat Buchanan and Glenn Beck do! (I have learned this week, for example, that I am a "dirty Jew" who should "kill myself" which sounds delightful, God bless you, fans of Pat Buchanan and Glenn Beck, I have decided to become a Kabbalist.) -- or follow me on the Twitters. Let us relax, sit back, and enjoy our first show, FOX NEWS SUNDAY AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN.

FOX NEWS SUNDAY

So, right off the bat we have Peter Orszag, so, I hope you ladies are up early. I know that many of you can barely contain yourselves when he busts out the mad wonk and starts discussing budget figures and cost overruns.

Wallace is all: "Damn, Peter, Douglas Elmendorf thinks your health care reform package is going to be a massive turdie, budget wise!" Orszag says, "Well we won't sign a bill that expands the deficit." (I assume he means long term.) He says that the CBO analysis looks good and that there are other parts of the program coming into play that will lower costs. Additional steps that will make it "better than deficit neutral" include AWESOME COMMISSIONS OF DOCTORS COMMISSIONING.

What about the crazy TAXAPOCALYPSE! About 1.2% of America will have to pay higher taxes! Like they do in Denmark! By the way, Denmark: REALLY GOOD SOCIAL POLICY THERE.

What will happen to the teensy portion of small businesses, that may have to pay extra, so that people can have the sort of health care that will keep them from dying. Orszag points out that they are working to save the economy so that people will buy the products made and dols by small businesses. I'm guessing the whole LESS PEOPLE DYING OF TREATABLE ILLNESSES AND INJURIES will probably boost their bottom line as well.

What about taxing health care benefits? Ruled out? "It's something the President doesn't favor." Because of unions? UHM, HOPEFULLY BECAUSE HE MOCKED HIS ELECTION OPPONENT FOR PROPOSING IT, REPEATEDLY.

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Wallace then asks if a commitee of doctors will be telling health care providers WHO WILL LIVE AND WHO WILL DIE, like a health care Star Chamber from the depths of Roger Ailes paranoid fantasia? Orszag says, "that's the biggest canard out there," and that's saying something, because there are some BIG CANARDS out there.

Is Peter Orszag prepared TODAY, to tell America that the public funded health plan will not include abortion? He's "not prepared to rule it out." Great news for women, I guess! No one is prepared to rule out your personhood!

Why was Peter Orszag so WRONG about unemployment numbers? He says, "almost everyone was wrong about the economy." He says that you cannot go from massive losses to massive gains in a fingersnap. "It's going to take time to work our way out of this."

Meanwhile, Judd Gregg! Remember when this guy was almost in the administration? What a wild time in our lives that was. Anyway, guess what, he thinks Doug Elmendorf is a wise and sage individual. "Those were pretty damning words," he says.

Gregg says that taxpayers should not have to pay for abortions, if they find it immoral. OKAY, THEN! GIVE ME MY IRAQ WAR MONEY BACK, PLEASE?

Wallace asks if the status quo on health care is acceptable, Gregg says no, and the GOP have three plans that they are pretending will work. Gregg says that the current plans "put bureaucracy between you and your doctor and will lead to rationing in the end," which makes me want whatever health care plan Gregg has, because my health care plan right now puts a massive bureaucracy between me and my doctor and which rations health care out the yangles, and which keeps me in dread that one day there's going to be something put on my chart somewhere that will cause an alarm to go off, dropping me from the crappy health care I do have. See, I'd listen to Gregg and people like him if they'd stop pretending that American health care is something that it isn't.

I think though, that Gregg's health care plan is called, Being An Impossibly Rich Lawmaker With Many Many Lobbyists To Orally Stimulate On A Daily Basis.

Anyway, their plan would be for young people to stay indestructible, and pay one third of their alreay tiny incomes for catastrophic care, because who needs good preventative care. Also, the plan is for our streets to be clogged with dessperate and sick illegal immigrants. It's a blighted hellscape of the dead and dying and impoverished, but Judd Gregg will still enjoy gold-plated care, thanks to me.

Anyway, Panel Time! I'm assuming the Buzz Aldrin section was more celebratory than newsy. And anyway, Charles Krauthammer is on today, so this will get INTERPLANETARY real quick.

One thing I share with Bill Kristol, and sympathize with him on, is the inability to smile naturally on camera when introduced. Like him, I sort of make this, "I'm holding back some serious farts" face, which I think is preferable to Juan Williams' "Look at meeee! I am farting!" face or Krauthammer's "I, myself, am a collection of noxious gas that has somehow formed a rubbery skin" face.

WHERE ARE WE ON HEALTH CARE? Kristol says the Democrats' plan "is in trouble." This, of course, means that it's in good shape. "What is the case for doing it this year?" Kristol bitches. UHM, the MORTALITY OF POOR PEOPLE?

Liasson says the White House might "lose the narrative." OH NO! THE NARRATIVE! FIND IT! HURRY! This great nation needs our narratives found! We are a giant KINDLE OF POLITICS! I hope Walter Cronkite cuts a deal with Jesus to spit celestial tar at every newsperson who worried about narratives.

Meanwhile, Krauthammer says that everyone is getting taxed and that Elmendorf "exploded the entire rationale of his plan." Juan Williams HAS A SAD because he's been hugging conservadems this week and they are SAD PANDAS, who only want to pass something that won't really work but that comes larded with the magical powers of BIPARTISANSHIP, which makes everything better.

Then Williams yells the word "point" about a million times! "The point is this is not the point, point point McPoint!"

Liasson says that this calls the legislative strategy of the White House into question. DUH.

Kristol says the country will not get a health care bill, and that's great for the country, because maybe some people will finally learn to achieve immortality by pulling themselves up by their bootstraps.

Meanwhile, OLD MEN WHO LOOK LIKE LESBIANS PARTY WITH SOTOMAYOR. What does everything mean? Wallace is like, "Wow, she contradicted everything she ever said about race!" which is something you can say if "everything she said" is NOT an entire career of legal judgements and instead is the three words "wise Latina woman." By the way, if the Congress says "wise Latina woman" fifty times, area Five Guys will be giving out free hamburgers, so let's keep our fingers crossed that our Congress is filled with dim-bulb morons who glom onto one idea, milk it to death, and then brainlessly stumble to their next committee assignment as powerful lobbyists tell them what to say, because they are hollow sacks of human filth but HEY FREE HAMBURGERS MAYBE SO PLEASE KEEP SAYING "WISE LATINA WOMAN" YOU TERRIBLE HUSKS!

Liasson says Sotomayor did all the things that SCOTUS nominees do, which is humor this jackasses in the Senate by allowing them to ask their idiot questions, and do nothing controversial.

Wallace asks, "Have these hearing become a waste of time?" YES. And maybe if you TURNED THE CAMERAS OFF, which just encourage these popinjays to MUG FOR THEM, it would become valuable again. THINK ABOUT IT.

Anyway, Juan WIlliams says the GOP did a "good job attacking Sotomayor, making her out to be a quota queen." YES. SHREWD LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY. That will serve them well with all the Latina women Obama is sure to nominate.

Naturally, Bill Kristol thinks the value of Walter Cronkite has to do with the ratings he got. So does Liasson. Krauthammer says something I'm not even remotely interested in transcribing. Williams says he didn't pander and was a real newsman and "we all honor that," even though no one on this panel actually does honor that, GAH SHUT UP ALL OF YOU.

FACE THE NATION

Health care reform! Are discussions of health care reform the nations' leading sickness? I think maybe! If not then, then now, because it's Charles Rangel and Orrin Hatch, z-listers both. Harry Smith is all: HAVE YOU BOTCHED THIS JOB? Rangel says, no, "at the end of the day, we'll have health care for the country." Will taxing the rich fly with Republicans, Smith asks Hatch. WHY EVEN HAVE THIS SHOW? Of course taxing the rich will not fly with Orrin Hatch! The rich need tax cuts, all of them! Then Hatch laments the fact that everything's become "so political." Also, it's all "going too fast." WHY ALL THE URGENCY? IT'S JUST HEALTH CARE.

Anyway, Harry Smith, really wants America to try--really, REALLY try--to think about what it's like in the United States today to be an impossibly wealthy person! SO MANY DEMANDS! Have you thanked a rich person today? YOU BETTER.

Rangel says that everyone in the House is waiting for the Senate to do ANYTHING. Orrin Hatch is like, GOD OUR HEALTH CARE IS AWESOME. Somehow, long waits and constant denials of care are just BETTER when they are American. The men who settled this nation dragged themselves off into the woods to die from easily treatable infections, and so can all of us!

Rangel points out the the GOP is involved, and that Chuck Grassley hands out at the White House all the time, and so they cannot deny that they are playing a role in shaping the bill. He's right: what usually happens is that the Democrats bend over backwards and allow all sorts of amendments to the bill from the other side, and then they don't vote for it. It's awesome, the political process! And then there's the whole LET'S FILIBUSTER EVERYTHING IN THE SENATE NOW, which Rangel is just laughing about, like a jackass, but it's really just rendering both houses of Congress impossibly useless.

John Glenn and Bob Schieffer are here to talk about Walter Cronkite. Astronauts! Anyway, Glenn says that Cronkite was a really great friend to the Space Program. Schieffer says that American's trusted Cronkite because he was a reporter, "on the scene," whose "suntan" didn't some from "studio lights" and a few other darlings that are difficult to transcribe.

"Was Walter Cronkite in the right place at the right time?" Smith asks. The answer, "Yes." These inquiries are truly advancing our understanding of the news business!

"When [Cronkite] said somebody died, they died, and you didn't have to put flowery language around it." IRONY!

John Glenn says Cronkite was friendly and had a "lot of jokes" and he wanted to be an astronaut himself. He "may have sent a letter" wanting to go up in space. Laying hands on that would be a newsy thing! Make it happen, NASA.

Harry Smith assures us that Cronkite was not an "Accidental Tourist" or a "Zelig" or an "American Werewolf In London" or someone who'd be "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" or was "Lost in Translation" or a "Spaceballs."

Cronkite "spoke truth to power" about the Vietnam War. Schieffer says that it meant something because "Walter seldom took a stand on something," which must mean that everyone in news is a Cronkite now because no one ever takes stands on anything.

Harry Smith thinks it's "audacious" for reporters to "contradict" powerful people. It should be de rigeur, but it isn't. They also praise Cronkite for going on the scene, asking people to be sources, and getting an informed opinion about an issue. THAT'S FUNNY, because in HOURS AND HOURS of discussion of health care reform, I've yet to see any of these people even bother to seek out even one opinion from even one American who is living with no health care in this country. But I do see a lot of nodding about how the US has the "best health care in the world," all from people who happen to be lucky enough to be receiving it! They were all busy sending Mark Sanford emails that read, "DEAR MARK SANFORD: I HAVE POSITIONED MYSELF ON ALL FOURS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE ME?"

ANYWAY WHAT GLENN SAID ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

MEET THE PRESS

God, all you need to know about what a crapfountain David Gregory is in his introduction: "The view from top Republican Mitch McConnell...will health care reform be BIPARTISAN." Not, will it be effective. Not, does McConnell/Obama have any ideas that are strong on the merits, and if so what are they? Just, "OMG! WILL SWEET SWEET BIPARTISANSHIP SAUCE BE LADLED ONTO AMERICA!?"

But first, Kathleen Sebellius. And Elmendorf! Will costs be contained? We should do nothing, maybe? AGHH! Sebellius says that the package will be full of recommendations that will help to bend the cost curve or whatever. BUT ELMENDORF, MY GOD! Sebellius says, that the status quo is unsustainable and must be addressed. BUT ELMENDORF, MY GOD! Was Gregory unable to get Elmendorf on this show? he can be questioned, as well, you know!

WAS IT A WAKE UP CALL? Sebellius says, UHM NOT REALLY. "There's no scoring right now for the things we know will save money long term."

Maybe it would just be awesome to LOWER COSTS on Americans that go into debt getting baseline care?

Universality, Sebellius is not a priority, but it must "cover all Americans," which, I DON'T KNOW, seems like a CONTRADICTION!

David Gregory is in fine form today! I don't think there's anything in the world that makes him happier than the thought of health care reform failing. He is like a Girl Scout anticipating the next batch of Dosidos!

"WHY WOULDN'T EVERYBODY CHOOSE A PUBLIC PLAN?" Gregory asks. I don't know! WHY DOESN'T EVERYBODY BY THE GENERIC MEDICATIONS AT CVS? Seriously! They are the SAME EXACT DRUGS. Yet somehow, Advil gets sold. There are generic brands of everything at grocery stores. Somehow, brand names get bought. Probably because some are better, probably because PEOPLE LIKE STATUS. Anyway, I think that will drive people to private insurance plans: 1) Some will find competitive ways of outpacing the public plan, and 2) Some will simply say, WHAT ARE YOU, A POOR PERSON? DON'T LET YOUR FRIENDS THINK YOU ARE SOME SORT OF WRETCH WHO NEEDS POOR PEOPLE CARE? HAHAHA, DON'T BE A LOSER. David Gregory will probably personally shill for such wares.

Gregory and Sebellius get into a row about whether people would get to keep the doctors and care they have, which is a matter I do think the White House has been more than a little disingenuous about but which once again ELIDES THE LARGER POINT, that right now, through whim and tricksy circumstance, you could, at any time, lose the doctors you have and the care you're getting! I would love to have simply kept seeing the same old allergist I'd been seeing for years, but guess what, suddenly I could not, without spending a bloody fortune! And then it took two years to find another one! But health care isn't RATIONED, no no! I loved the health care I had where I paid ten dollars for prescriptions, but now I don't have that anymore! So what Gregory presents as problems, I see as "the current crap we lucky few who are allowed to have health care in this country have." And it's crap, but so far it keeps me basically alive, and so, it'd be great if everyone could just have access to the live-giving crap that I have, instead of just having asthma attacks and hoping for the best!

Like this. GREGORY: "Will Americans accept the fact that there are some limits to what the government will pay for?"

SEBELLIUS: "There are limits right now."

Reporting live, from DUH, is David Gregory.

Gregory is up in arms about the tax that will be levied on Americans. Let's see exactly how brutal this tax will be!

OH NO! THIS IS OBVIOUSLY MARXISM.

But Sebellius has apparently been given instructions to not just say, "OMG THESE FILTHY RICH PEOPLE WILL BE OKAY, REALLY, AND SO WILL JOBS." So, instead we get long, drawn out hemming and hawwing.

GREGORY: "He thinks upper income Americans should shoulder most of the burden."

ME: "UHM, THE 'BURDEN' IS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE GETTING SICK, WITH NO DOCTORS. With that in mind, I think that upper income Americans will be shouldering almost NO burden."

Sebellius says that by mid-October, we might have a swine-flu vaccine, which will make watching David Gregory much easier.

Now it's time fro Gregory to sit down with Plutocracy's Wingman, Senator Mitch McConnell. What does he think about the timing of the bill? McConnell says that neither bill should be passed, that their "rush and spend," and that OMGZ TEH DEFICITS WHICH I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BUILDING! "What we truly need is a bipartisan proposal, by which I mean either watered down junk or massive sops to the insurance industry."

Gregory wags his foolish little tail, nods along and asks, "Will it not get passed? PLEASE SAY IT WON'T GET PASSED." McConnell says he thinks it shouldn't. Gregory says, OH YEAH, DID YOU HEAR HOW SEBELLIUS TRIED TO ANSWER THAT?

"Let me just tell you is flawed about their whole approach, David," McConnell says, spitting canards about how Canadians all wish they could have our awesome health care system. Let's keep in mind that while he has Sebellius on, Gregory was constantly interrupting here, peppering her with questions. What does McConnell get? He gets to complete his sentences -- his melodramatic sentences -- withourt question.

MCCONNELL: Surveys say* that Americans overwhelmingly like their health care.

*WHAT SURVEYS? SOURCE? SOURCE? SHOW THE MATH? SHOW THE QUESTION? CITE THE ORGANIZATION WHO CONDUCTED IT?

Gregory, finally attempting actual reporting, asks McConnell if that isn't just a myth that we have the best health care in the world. He reads from an op-ed penned by Shannon Brownlee and Ezekeil Emanuel that somehow made it into the Washington Post past Fred Hiatt's all-nonsense-all-the-time policy.

MCCONNELL: That's one expert!

Uhm, it's actually, TWO EXPERTS. TWO. Counting: it's important to be able to do, to run the country.

MCCONNELL: If you look at the surveys....

WHAT SURVEYS? SOURCE? SOURCE? SHOW THE MATH? SHOW THE QUESTION? CITE THE ORGANIZATION WHO CONDUCTED IT?

MCCONNELL: ...they don't think quality is the problem. They think cost and access are the problem.

Cost and access being two things that make our health care system of very low quality!

McConnell says that Safeway will save us! They are fighting smoking, and obesity! And yet, I bet if I go to the Safeway, ten minutes from my apartment, I will be able to buy cigarettes and pork rinds!

Gregory reads Ted Kennedy's op-ed aloud, for the sake of sentimentality. He attempts a complicated metaphor about the auto industry abotu Ford whining about how the government's intervention in Chrysler and GM's financing is undercutting their own, and this proves that the private industries will all collapse. Except that people are still buying Toyotas and Hondas and BMWs and VWs and whatnot, so maybe it's really Ford, who's selling cars nobody wants, because they are terrible? YES THIS IS THE CASE. I concede that government intervention in an industry will be of no benefit to anyone who'd like to get rich manufacturing or selling crap that everybody hates, and that this is too bad.

McConnell says the stimpak has failed and that there should be no more stimulus. What would he do? Gregory doesn't ask. Instead, he asks why he won't support Sotomayor, to which he says she won't be an umpire and call balls and strikes.

McConnell is disturbed by anyone who would force an American soldier to say bad things about the country under duress, but really, Mitch! Those are just "enhanced interrogation techniques!" Dick Cheney says that's all okay.

Gregory says wow, it's do or die time for health care, and it's so exciting that it's not working. The president is in "campaign mode." CAMPAIGNS ARE SHINY. Why can't more Americans stop being sick and learn to embrace the healing powers of the SHINY. Gigot points out that Democrats won't be able to bring themselves to do the right thing unless everyone's approval ratings are totally high and everyone's assured of re-election, and THAT IS BASICALLY TRUE.

Norris notes that it's the last-minute horse trading that makes legislation worse. I think it's "allowing Ben Nelson to talk about stuff and try to do things" that ruins legislation. Seriously, Ben Nelson belongs in a high-chair so that he doesn't hurt anyone.

Richard Wolffe says Obama has to be unconventional...different...not normal...there's a word, I think...that best sums it up...OH YEAH! RENEGADE. Make it about pocketbooks, like a RENEGADE. RENEGADE THAT STUFF. SOMEBODY ALREADY USED THE WORD "MAVERICK." SO LET'S GET RENEGADEY!

Harwood wonder how anyone will be able to get the public to credit the Obama administration for economic gains that lad behind the present moment? UHM, IF HE DESERVES CREDIT, YOU COULD REPORT IT AS SUCH.

Now, Richard Wolffe is talking abour how awesome Obama is doing in Michigan, because of all the RENEGADING.

Okay, this is the worst segue in the history of the news industry:

GREGORY: [with beaming, schoolgirl excitement] You talk about health care and you talk about the economy and it just leads you to start thinking about the campaign and opposition from Hillary Clinton and then all of the questions about the Secretary of State who is now, uhhh...in India sort of off the injured list here and her elbow in better shape and so she was in India in a deplomitic [I think he means to say, "DIPLOMATIC" but the word that came out of his mouth was "DEPLOMITIC"] mission over this weekend this is what the AP wrote on Wednesday about Hillary Clinton falling off center stage...

And then he reads an article from the AP, for some reason. But read that transition! Who wrote that goddamned thing? Sarah Palin? YIKES.

Michele Norris says, "I think that too much has been made of this Obama versus Clinton narrative." I think that too much is being made of MEET THE PRESS' ability to WRITE A NARRATIVE.

Wolffe says that all the principals like one another, but that the staffs are rancorous jerks.

David Gregory says that it was awesome to be able to afford to take his son to the All-Star Game (and to afford health care for his family, presumably) and he thinks it's great that rich baseball players deigned to shake the hands of people who do community service! WHY IT WAS A NEAT MOMENT WHERE RICH CELEBRITIES PRETENDED THAT MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE HAD ACTUAL HUMANITY AND IT WAS SUPER NEAT! "As a dad sitting in the stands, I thought that this is what's wholesome about baseball." And then those community service went home and struggled to pay their health care bills, BUT WHAT A TEACHABLE MOMENT FOR DAVID GREGORY.

Oh, and look, if you think for one second I am going to sit here and listen to what David Gregory has to say about Walter Cronkite's legacy, the answer is NO, NOT FOR ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD. I am going to save David Gregory's thoughts on Walter Cronkite for the time of my death, so that me and Walter Cronkite and Jesus can all gather by the celestial cathode ray device and have a good laugh. Then I'll faithfully wait for my wife to arrive so that we can try out "angel sex."

Anyway, tra la. That is all for this week in the life of our Sunday mornings. Now for the BAD NEWS! The BAD NEWS is that do to some important Huff Post team maneuvers, related to an office move, I will be unable to bring you a live blog next Sunday. THIS WILL BE PRACTICE FOR WHEN I GO ON VACATION! However, I will be putting up a post like always on the site, so that those of you who watch the shows, read along, and kick it with each other in the comments can continue to do so. What I think would be great, is if any of you happens upon the sort of important news story during the week that so often gets ingnored on Sunday, send me an email and I'll toss it in the post as something to discuss. Think about this as an opportunity to program your own Sunday morning show.

Again, very sorry I will be away next week. BUT YOU WILL SURVIVE, provided you have health insurance. Have a great week.

Hello, fellow Muggles, and welcome to this week's edition of your Sunday Morning Liveblog, your weekly, occasionally witty rundown of the week in political monkeyshines and the Hollow Men who rend the...
Hello, fellow Muggles, and welcome to this week's edition of your Sunday Morning Liveblog, your weekly, occasionally witty rundown of the week in political monkeyshines and the Hollow Men who rend the...
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- Oldsop I'm a Fan of Oldsop 24 fans permalink

Jason: you would have received a grade of "F" on this post if you were in my journalism class. Your style is boorish and your use of caps is gratuitously trendy; neither of which covers up for your error of fact: we already have health care for all citizens. The debate is centered on the 10% who can't pay for it while observing that another 10% are choosing to not buy it. That leaves the 80% of us who do pay for it: which means it is affordable for that 80%.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 07/19/2009
- Bluedanube I'm a Fan of Bluedanube 37 fans permalink

So, as a former professor of journalism, you're one of the reasons for the abysmal state of "journalism" in the U.S.. As to your analysis of the state of healthcare in the U.S., it is simplistic and disingenuous at best.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 07/19/2009
- Oldsop I'm a Fan of Oldsop 24 fans permalink

My analysis coolaid breath was factual and I never said I was a former journalism professor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 07/19/2009
- PR one I'm a Fan of PR one 24 fans permalink
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TEXAS CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY­-SCHIEFFER SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 07/19/2009
- Mauimom I'm a Fan of Mauimom 13 fans permalink
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But he's NOT in your "journalism class."

He's writing a blog for Huffington Post and you're not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 07/19/2009
- Hank007 I'm a Fan of Hank007 84 fans permalink

You are talking about 'insurance' which is different from 'health care'. A lot of people can afford 'insurance', which still leaves them bankrupt when they get sick, which is bad for a lot of people, like the people to whom the sick owed money. I, for example, can afford insurance, though I have never used it, ever. Yesterday my insurer raised my premium by 20%, and said if I want the same premium I can have less coverage. Soon, I will still be able to afford insurance, but the insurance I will be able to afford won't really provide me with any health care, and very little sick care. Ideologically I am sure this is fine with a lot of people, as I'm sure the abacus is still considered a useful technology to some. In the 21st century, however, the industrialized world uses computers and provides health care to its citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 07/19/2009
- aznurse I'm a Fan of aznurse 55 fans permalink

Good Job!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 07/19/2009
- madHenry I'm a Fan of madHenry 62 fans permalink
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Well phrased. A good thumbnail sketch of the core problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 07/19/2009

Exactly. And that is exactly what the Dems should be pointing out to the middle class (the ones McConnell says are happy with their healthcare). You're "insured" as long as you don't get sick. But if you do get sick, suddenly you're uninsured ...and then you're bankrupt. Shorter version: "One sickness away from financial ruin."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 07/19/2009
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Yes Yes, and Yes.

The insurance companies are a crooked lot. Where is the populist outrage? Why aren't there t-baggin parties for the credit card co's and health insurance highway robbery???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 07/19/2009
- uncle274 I'm a Fan of uncle274 2 fans permalink

I would challenge your last statement that health care is affordable for 80%. Didn't health care legacy costs help to bankrupt GM. Isn't healthcare costs one of the main reason for individual bankruptcy in this country?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 07/19/2009
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Affordable? I guess then when the highway robbers come and offer to take all of your money or shoot you, its possible to see giving them all of your money as 'affordable'. With the cost rising dramatically every year right along with the profits of health insurers who can change your premiums or 'rescind' your policy because you or someone in your group has too many claims in a year, it is hard to call the system 'affordabl­e.'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 07/19/2009

I don't watch the Sunday morning shows anymore. They are just too predicable and Jason gives us all we need to know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 07/19/2009
- VSamuels I'm a Fan of VSamuels 64 fans permalink

I'll file this jewel away---for when you attack others for not taking the time to become personally informed. You wouldn't happen to be neighbors with PUMA Ann, would you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 07/19/2009
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 378 fans permalink
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Oh dear, sounds like I should just delete MTP off of the DVR.

Was just coming to complain about Sessions fibbing on King's SOTU.

Going on about Sotomayor's ability/implied intention of "amending the constitution".

I cannot stand J. Beauregard Sessions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 07/19/2009
- PR one I'm a Fan of PR one 24 fans permalink
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Would someone ask J. Beauregard Session under oath, if he had ever been a member of any organization that is oppose to the Government of the United
States.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 07/19/2009
- Decipherer I'm a Fan of Decipherer 108 fans permalink

That's Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III to you, "mommy!" Show the "gentleman" some respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 07/19/2009

It's amusing to watch David Gregory avoid asking tough questions of Republicans. I don't know what his political leanings are & don't care. He puts himself out there as a serious journalist­...BullSh*­t. While questioning Mitch McConnel about healthcare reform, he failed to ask MConnel the following.­.after McConnel stated that something definately needed to be done about the cost of healthcare­."why didn't the Republicans do smething about healthcare when they controled the Congress & he Exec branch. Nope, Gregory is not going to ask a hard question of a Republican because of ideology..­...it will be because of FEAR !!!! Not just tp pick on Gregory, I challenge any of the "news jockeys" to ask any of the pro torture advocates what advice they would communicate to the Taliban who's holding that U.S. serviceman hostage. That would be interesting to know. Inquiring minds want to know. How about warning the Taliban that the serviceman should be treated in accordance with the tenets of the Geneva Convention or else!!!! Don't worry folks, there's not one among them with the cajones to do it....Cowa­rdly Punks...ju­st like Lindsey Graham , John Kyl & Cornyn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 07/19/2009
- KCFreedom I'm a Fan of KCFreedom 18 fans permalink

Just like TR before him. No hard questions to GOP guests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 07/19/2009
- PR one I'm a Fan of PR one 24 fans permalink
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Totally agree with KC

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 07/19/2009
- JustLucky I'm a Fan of JustLucky 19 fans permalink
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"It's amusing to watch David Gregory avoid asking tough questions of Republicans. I don't know what his political leanings are & don't care."

Aw, but I'm sure you could give it a pretty good guess. His politics are pretty transparent, and he's getting away with brazenly exhibiting his biases on MTP. I don't know anything about MTP ratings, but I would hope they're well on their way down - I know that I, among many others here, can't watch it any longer. It's not as Russert didn't anger me at times, but it's gone way too far with Gregory at the helm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 07/19/2009
- madHenry I'm a Fan of madHenry 62 fans permalink
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Maybe doesn't want to hurt their FEELINGS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 07/19/2009
- kasv I'm a Fan of kasv 18 fans permalink

David Gregory is an insult to my intelligence, and that of my dog. MTP is a GOP joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 07/19/2009
- 123dee I'm a Fan of 123dee 15 fans permalink

David Gregory has destroyed MTP and the good work Russert did looking out for the
American people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 07/19/2009
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Russert was mediocre.

Gregory is terrible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 07/19/2009
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Exactly, I fail to comprehend the Russert worship. If he shone in his field, well, that's all just relative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 07/19/2009
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 33 fans permalink
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agreed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 07/19/2009
- VSamuels I'm a Fan of VSamuels 64 fans permalink

Russert was the same way as Gregory, except he had a distinct style that often masked his bias toward guests, Gregory tries very hard but he is simply too boorish and self-serving, and this comes across beyond his attempts to be a fair broker on issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 07/19/2009
- tmaxPA I'm a Fan of tmaxPA 6 fans permalink

Seems I missed how that "good work" actually did any good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 07/19/2009
- Bluedanube I'm a Fan of Bluedanube 37 fans permalink

Does that "good work" include being Cheney's "go to guy."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 07/19/2009
- KCFreedom I'm a Fan of KCFreedom 18 fans permalink

TR may have made his mark early in his career but during the last decade he'd softball every Republican on his show. He'd just sit there and smile as the lies spewed forth. The final insult that made me quit watching him was when he had a sheriff of a parish on his show, who left his duty and tried to save his mother in a nursing home during Katrina, and TR just bulldozed over him, knowing that he probably couldn't afford a lawyer to sue. The guy was basically in tears and TR just smiled as if he was "cool". What a creap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 07/19/2009
- JustLucky I'm a Fan of JustLucky 19 fans permalink
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Russert was lovable, and I recall really enjoying him much of the time - but I grew to be very wary of him. He could be very unfair and unreasonable in the name of making himself seem tough and shrewd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 07/19/2009
- sandals I'm a Fan of sandals 34 fans permalink

I just want a Talking Head on the TV to ask these Rethuglicans what is their plan, other than NO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 07/19/2009
- KCFreedom I'm a Fan of KCFreedom 18 fans permalink

I get GOP mailings and phone calls and as far as I can tell, their only plan is to "stop the liberal Democrats from passing their agenda". No other substance; no ideas, no alternatives, just THAT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 07/19/2009
- PR one I'm a Fan of PR one 24 fans permalink
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What are you deaf? they did say what their plan is many times.....­..........­........JU­ST REPEAT NO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 07/19/2009
- uncle274 I'm a Fan of uncle274 2 fans permalink

I am really disappointed by MTP. This DG is not the DG we saw as a White House Correspondent. He is trying to remake himself into something he is not and it shows.

I was amazed that he did not challenge McConnell on his answer to the quality of health care in this country. The American people do not know if they are getting the best health care because they have no basis for comparison.

Furthermore, these surveys that say people are satisfied with their healthcare, in my opinion do not ask the right questions. Ask me if I am satisfied with my health care PROVIDER!

Ask cancer patients as a separate group are they satisfied with their treatment.
Ask diabetics. Ask breast cancer survivors. Ask diabetics. Ask prostate cancer survivors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 07/19/2009
- Bluedanube I'm a Fan of Bluedanube 37 fans permalink

According to the most recent analysis by the World Health Organization the U.S. ranks 37th in healthcare. France and Italy are numbers 1 & 2 respectively. It's in the interests of the corporations to keep the American public in the dark.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 07/19/2009
- Hank007 I'm a Fan of Hank007 84 fans permalink

Exactly. All the numbers, facts and data are there, and one would think journalists would know them by now. Instead tools like Gregory just keep allowing the GOP to repeat the same blatant lies over and over, and perpetuate this mythical non-reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 07/19/2009
- JayDDrew I'm a Fan of JayDDrew 43 fans permalink

Americans shun knowledge because our collective ego refuses to acknowledge any other country could be better than us at anything. It took you thirty seconds to find that info, if you didn't already know it. But morons will quote the lies they get from Fox News or other unreliable sources.
Case in point: our energy crisis could easily be solved with nuclear energy, with a boost from wind and solar (which really aren't necessary). Homes and businesses could be heated and cooled, and all appliances run on electricity from nuclear and alternative sources. Also, electric and hybrid vehicles could reduce our oil needs to less than a quarter of current needs, making the U.S. totally self-sufficient, ie, we wouldn't need foreign oil at all!
The manufacturing of nuclear, solar and wind plants, including the buildings, roads etc., and conversion of auto manufacturing and related GM plants to making hybrids and electric vehicles would solve our employment problem and our deficit problem.
All it takes is the will of our politicians to do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 07/19/2009
- VSamuels I'm a Fan of VSamuels 64 fans permalink

Exactly.

Part of the selection process of putting a David Gregory in place is to insulate 'truth' from public policy, and usher the discussions from contextual excercises that cover the minute details that would make the issues breathe and come alive. The GOP have a virtual free reign in speaking in very limited terms about Healthcare while accusing those who want National Healthcare as socialist, because those like Gregory are tools of the corporate structure.

Corporations have a huge impact on our public policy, yet neither the Dems or republicans actually deal with them, in a manner consistent with their influence on our lives; the phoney liberal v. conservative framework is so much of a distraction from the control of these corporations and the mouthpieces who are picked to do their bidding.

The republicans and many Democrats are beholden to these corporate interests and they are caught between doing what the people want and keeping their masters' happy and satisfied.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 07/19/2009
- sandals I'm a Fan of sandals 34 fans permalink

All I heard on MSNBC, from a Rethuglican strategist, was that the American People don't want health care, they don't want higher taxes, forgetting to state that it would be the 1.2% of the people, that the stimulus hasn't worked, but giving that it was just passed 4 months ago and only 10% of the stimulus money has only been sent out into the system
The Rethugs are going to try to make political hay out of this, they want you and me the American People to forget that they help create this mess, so if they continue yo play this that the American People will put them back in power I have to say WTF!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 07/19/2009
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 73 fans permalink
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David Gregory is horrible, awful, dreadful--and thank you for covering what he does because...­wow, did I say "awful"?

He doesn't even ask WHY it isn't bipartisan (as it never occurs to him that REPUBLICANS could be at fault for anything, ever). What a low he sets for NBC News.

And, thanks, Jason for calling Hatch/Smith et al out on the ludicrous idea that we have "the best health care SYSTEM in the world." That they could say it....BELI­EVE it....just shows how tottallly out of touch rich, priviliged imillionaires are with the health care STRUGGLES and WORRIES of many average Americans.

Our health care system is BROKEN. There is great care, sure. But only if you are rich enough....­or poor and patient and lucky enough....­or well-insured enough by your employer..­..or retired. For the rest of us? It. Sucks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 07/19/2009
- VSamuels I'm a Fan of VSamuels 64 fans permalink

As long as the system gives the republicans a forum to repeat that America's Healthcare system is the best in the world and do not challenge them, but at the same time hops on the CBO report to cite that President Obama's plan (which is not in fact his) will cost 1.2 trillion dollars, they are free not to deal with the public's reality. If we look at any major issue facing this nation, the common thread in all of them, is the delusional rhethoric that the GOP and some Dems use to push corporate agendas, not as corporate agendas but as something that the American people want.

Gregory at the least should have asked McConnell how the GOP which just lost badly in the last election and has no concensus leader, can be today so in tuned with what the American people want? But when one doesn't challenge such outrageous leaps of logic, these GOPers are free to deposit all sorts of things in the public mainstream, without ever having to prove any basis for it being said.

This is power and this is proof that the system is only seeking to perserve itself and what is in the interest of the corporations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 07/19/2009
- madHenry I'm a Fan of madHenry 62 fans permalink
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When I was a young man going off ot college in the early 1970s, in my wildest imaginings I never thought that my most reliable source for news would be a cute, sardonic lesbian woman. Rachel, will you marry me so I don't have to watch the tv or get on the internets anymore, but still be informed and maybe (just maybe) recover my sense of humor?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 07/19/2009
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Dear MadHenry--No I won't marry you. I'm a lesbian and I take that pretty seriously.

But do keep watching.

Hugs, Rachel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 07/19/2009
- PR one I'm a Fan of PR one 24 fans permalink
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Maribell; if I were a woman I would ask you you to marry me. Week day 9:00 pm EST. religiously.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 07/19/2009
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Hatch laments the fact that everything's become "so political.­"

LOL Jason!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 07/19/2009

Actually legit journalists should let truth and honest opinions shine through and do the research for the listener so they can add value by dashing factual falsehood to the ground.

They are supposed to provide a service - and it takes hard work on their part. It is a sacred trust.

No bias or fault in their fact checking and getting Americans the right and honest information so we can properly decide. With due respect to you, their job is more than letting idiots and/or liars blast us with fallacy and/or devious propaganda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 07/19/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 90 fans permalink
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Sebelius had nothing but double talk to offer on Meet the Press, and an aire of not really caring. Of course, why should she, she's pulling in a good salary with FULL benefits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 07/19/2009

Why should congress be pulling a good Ssalary with Benefits; I say pull their healthcare and let see how hard they worked then to fix this problem

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 07/19/2009
- 123dee I'm a Fan of 123dee 15 fans permalink

Also, cut pension funds being paid to any retired government official whose
assets are over 25Million, to help pay for health care and definitely tax the top
1.2% of the population.

In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2004, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 34.3% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 50.3%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 85%, leaving only 15% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth (total net worth minus the value of one's home), the top 1% of households had an even greater share: 42.2%. Table 1 and Figure 1 present further details drawn from the careful work of economist Edward N. Wolff at New York University (2007). http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 07/19/2009

How could you tell? Gregory wouldn't let her complete a thought. Very irritating to watch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 07/19/2009
- alumcreek I'm a Fan of alumcreek 24 fans permalink

Anchors are no longer hired because of their reportorial skill and experience. They are hired because they are found to be attractive and not so stupid as to repel the public as soon as they open their mouths.

A good anchor is something of a wonk. He or she knows enough about most topics to be aware when a politician is lying and what exactly the lie is. It is essential that anchors be immensely well read and capable of debating in a civil fashion. Screaming at one's opponent makes one about as right as bringing a battalion to a duel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 07/19/2009
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