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First Posted: 07-19-09 08:27 AM   |   Updated: 08-19-09 05:12 AM

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Hello, fellow Muggles, and welcome to this week's edition of your Sunday Morning Liveblog, your weekly, occasionally witty rundown of the week in political monkeyshines and the Hollow Men who rend their garments over it, whilst you sleep off your Saturday Night USA. My name is Jason, and I will be your sherpa. Today! Well...today we'll have many of the same topics as last week, and, indeed, many of the same conversations. But today! We'll also have the people on our teevee attempt to wrap themselves in the corpse of Walter Cronkite. It could get disgusting, watching all these people who fail miserably at living up to his legacy claim to be inspired by him. But that is what our Gag Reflexes are for, and why we keep a fresh paper bag by our sides each morning, when these shows come on. (I also use mine in case the kitties vomit, something which may or may not be related to these shows, I don't know, cats, they tend to vomit.)

Anyway, as always, leave a comment, send a missive my way via email -- like fans of Pat Buchanan and Glenn Beck do! (I have learned this week, for example, that I am a "dirty Jew" who should "kill myself" which sounds delightful, God bless you, fans of Pat Buchanan and Glenn Beck, I have decided to become a Kabbalist.) -- or follow me on the Twitters. Let us relax, sit back, and enjoy our first show, FOX NEWS SUNDAY AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN.

FOX NEWS SUNDAY

So, right off the bat we have Peter Orszag, so, I hope you ladies are up early. I know that many of you can barely contain yourselves when he busts out the mad wonk and starts discussing budget figures and cost overruns.

Wallace is all: "Damn, Peter, Douglas Elmendorf thinks your health care reform package is going to be a massive turdie, budget wise!" Orszag says, "Well we won't sign a bill that expands the deficit." (I assume he means long term.) He says that the CBO analysis looks good and that there are other parts of the program coming into play that will lower costs. Additional steps that will make it "better than deficit neutral" include AWESOME COMMISSIONS OF DOCTORS COMMISSIONING.

What about the crazy TAXAPOCALYPSE! About 1.2% of America will have to pay higher taxes! Like they do in Denmark! By the way, Denmark: REALLY GOOD SOCIAL POLICY THERE.

What will happen to the teensy portion of small businesses, that may have to pay extra, so that people can have the sort of health care that will keep them from dying. Orszag points out that they are working to save the economy so that people will buy the products made and dols by small businesses. I'm guessing the whole LESS PEOPLE DYING OF TREATABLE ILLNESSES AND INJURIES will probably boost their bottom line as well.

What about taxing health care benefits? Ruled out? "It's something the President doesn't favor." Because of unions? UHM, HOPEFULLY BECAUSE HE MOCKED HIS ELECTION OPPONENT FOR PROPOSING IT, REPEATEDLY.

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Wallace then asks if a commitee of doctors will be telling health care providers WHO WILL LIVE AND WHO WILL DIE, like a health care Star Chamber from the depths of Roger Ailes paranoid fantasia? Orszag says, "that's the biggest canard out there," and that's saying something, because there are some BIG CANARDS out there.

Is Peter Orszag prepared TODAY, to tell America that the public funded health plan will not include abortion? He's "not prepared to rule it out." Great news for women, I guess! No one is prepared to rule out your personhood!

Why was Peter Orszag so WRONG about unemployment numbers? He says, "almost everyone was wrong about the economy." He says that you cannot go from massive losses to massive gains in a fingersnap. "It's going to take time to work our way out of this."

Meanwhile, Judd Gregg! Remember when this guy was almost in the administration? What a wild time in our lives that was. Anyway, guess what, he thinks Doug Elmendorf is a wise and sage individual. "Those were pretty damning words," he says.

Gregg says that taxpayers should not have to pay for abortions, if they find it immoral. OKAY, THEN! GIVE ME MY IRAQ WAR MONEY BACK, PLEASE?

Wallace asks if the status quo on health care is acceptable, Gregg says no, and the GOP have three plans that they are pretending will work. Gregg says that the current plans "put bureaucracy between you and your doctor and will lead to rationing in the end," which makes me want whatever health care plan Gregg has, because my health care plan right now puts a massive bureaucracy between me and my doctor and which rations health care out the yangles, and which keeps me in dread that one day there's going to be something put on my chart somewhere that will cause an alarm to go off, dropping me from the crappy health care I do have. See, I'd listen to Gregg and people like him if they'd stop pretending that American health care is something that it isn't.

I think though, that Gregg's health care plan is called, Being An Impossibly Rich Lawmaker With Many Many Lobbyists To Orally Stimulate On A Daily Basis.

Anyway, their plan would be for young people to stay indestructible, and pay one third of their alreay tiny incomes for catastrophic care, because who needs good preventative care. Also, the plan is for our streets to be clogged with dessperate and sick illegal immigrants. It's a blighted hellscape of the dead and dying and impoverished, but Judd Gregg will still enjoy gold-plated care, thanks to me.

Anyway, Panel Time! I'm assuming the Buzz Aldrin section was more celebratory than newsy. And anyway, Charles Krauthammer is on today, so this will get INTERPLANETARY real quick.

One thing I share with Bill Kristol, and sympathize with him on, is the inability to smile naturally on camera when introduced. Like him, I sort of make this, "I'm holding back some serious farts" face, which I think is preferable to Juan Williams' "Look at meeee! I am farting!" face or Krauthammer's "I, myself, am a collection of noxious gas that has somehow formed a rubbery skin" face.

WHERE ARE WE ON HEALTH CARE? Kristol says the Democrats' plan "is in trouble." This, of course, means that it's in good shape. "What is the case for doing it this year?" Kristol bitches. UHM, the MORTALITY OF POOR PEOPLE?

Liasson says the White House might "lose the narrative." OH NO! THE NARRATIVE! FIND IT! HURRY! This great nation needs our narratives found! We are a giant KINDLE OF POLITICS! I hope Walter Cronkite cuts a deal with Jesus to spit celestial tar at every newsperson who worried about narratives.

Meanwhile, Krauthammer says that everyone is getting taxed and that Elmendorf "exploded the entire rationale of his plan." Juan Williams HAS A SAD because he's been hugging conservadems this week and they are SAD PANDAS, who only want to pass something that won't really work but that comes larded with the magical powers of BIPARTISANSHIP, which makes everything better.

Then Williams yells the word "point" about a million times! "The point is this is not the point, point point McPoint!"

Liasson says that this calls the legislative strategy of the White House into question. DUH.

Kristol says the country will not get a health care bill, and that's great for the country, because maybe some people will finally learn to achieve immortality by pulling themselves up by their bootstraps.

Meanwhile, OLD MEN WHO LOOK LIKE LESBIANS PARTY WITH SOTOMAYOR. What does everything mean? Wallace is like, "Wow, she contradicted everything she ever said about race!" which is something you can say if "everything she said" is NOT an entire career of legal judgements and instead is the three words "wise Latina woman." By the way, if the Congress says "wise Latina woman" fifty times, area Five Guys will be giving out free hamburgers, so let's keep our fingers crossed that our Congress is filled with dim-bulb morons who glom onto one idea, milk it to death, and then brainlessly stumble to their next committee assignment as powerful lobbyists tell them what to say, because they are hollow sacks of human filth but HEY FREE HAMBURGERS MAYBE SO PLEASE KEEP SAYING "WISE LATINA WOMAN" YOU TERRIBLE HUSKS!

Liasson says Sotomayor did all the things that SCOTUS nominees do, which is humor this jackasses in the Senate by allowing them to ask their idiot questions, and do nothing controversial.

Wallace asks, "Have these hearing become a waste of time?" YES. And maybe if you TURNED THE CAMERAS OFF, which just encourage these popinjays to MUG FOR THEM, it would become valuable again. THINK ABOUT IT.

Anyway, Juan WIlliams says the GOP did a "good job attacking Sotomayor, making her out to be a quota queen." YES. SHREWD LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY. That will serve them well with all the Latina women Obama is sure to nominate.

Naturally, Bill Kristol thinks the value of Walter Cronkite has to do with the ratings he got. So does Liasson. Krauthammer says something I'm not even remotely interested in transcribing. Williams says he didn't pander and was a real newsman and "we all honor that," even though no one on this panel actually does honor that, GAH SHUT UP ALL OF YOU.

FACE THE NATION

Health care reform! Are discussions of health care reform the nations' leading sickness? I think maybe! If not then, then now, because it's Charles Rangel and Orrin Hatch, z-listers both. Harry Smith is all: HAVE YOU BOTCHED THIS JOB? Rangel says, no, "at the end of the day, we'll have health care for the country." Will taxing the rich fly with Republicans, Smith asks Hatch. WHY EVEN HAVE THIS SHOW? Of course taxing the rich will not fly with Orrin Hatch! The rich need tax cuts, all of them! Then Hatch laments the fact that everything's become "so political." Also, it's all "going too fast." WHY ALL THE URGENCY? IT'S JUST HEALTH CARE.

Anyway, Harry Smith, really wants America to try--really, REALLY try--to think about what it's like in the United States today to be an impossibly wealthy person! SO MANY DEMANDS! Have you thanked a rich person today? YOU BETTER.

Rangel says that everyone in the House is waiting for the Senate to do ANYTHING. Orrin Hatch is like, GOD OUR HEALTH CARE IS AWESOME. Somehow, long waits and constant denials of care are just BETTER when they are American. The men who settled this nation dragged themselves off into the woods to die from easily treatable infections, and so can all of us!

Rangel points out the the GOP is involved, and that Chuck Grassley hands out at the White House all the time, and so they cannot deny that they are playing a role in shaping the bill. He's right: what usually happens is that the Democrats bend over backwards and allow all sorts of amendments to the bill from the other side, and then they don't vote for it. It's awesome, the political process! And then there's the whole LET'S FILIBUSTER EVERYTHING IN THE SENATE NOW, which Rangel is just laughing about, like a jackass, but it's really just rendering both houses of Congress impossibly useless.

John Glenn and Bob Schieffer are here to talk about Walter Cronkite. Astronauts! Anyway, Glenn says that Cronkite was a really great friend to the Space Program. Schieffer says that American's trusted Cronkite because he was a reporter, "on the scene," whose "suntan" didn't some from "studio lights" and a few other darlings that are difficult to transcribe.

"Was Walter Cronkite in the right place at the right time?" Smith asks. The answer, "Yes." These inquiries are truly advancing our understanding of the news business!

"When [Cronkite] said somebody died, they died, and you didn't have to put flowery language around it." IRONY!

John Glenn says Cronkite was friendly and had a "lot of jokes" and he wanted to be an astronaut himself. He "may have sent a letter" wanting to go up in space. Laying hands on that would be a newsy thing! Make it happen, NASA.

Harry Smith assures us that Cronkite was not an "Accidental Tourist" or a "Zelig" or an "American Werewolf In London" or someone who'd be "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" or was "Lost in Translation" or a "Spaceballs."

Cronkite "spoke truth to power" about the Vietnam War. Schieffer says that it meant something because "Walter seldom took a stand on something," which must mean that everyone in news is a Cronkite now because no one ever takes stands on anything.

Harry Smith thinks it's "audacious" for reporters to "contradict" powerful people. It should be de rigeur, but it isn't. They also praise Cronkite for going on the scene, asking people to be sources, and getting an informed opinion about an issue. THAT'S FUNNY, because in HOURS AND HOURS of discussion of health care reform, I've yet to see any of these people even bother to seek out even one opinion from even one American who is living with no health care in this country. But I do see a lot of nodding about how the US has the "best health care in the world," all from people who happen to be lucky enough to be receiving it! They were all busy sending Mark Sanford emails that read, "DEAR MARK SANFORD: I HAVE POSITIONED MYSELF ON ALL FOURS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE ME?"

ANYWAY WHAT GLENN SAID ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

MEET THE PRESS

God, all you need to know about what a crapfountain David Gregory is in his introduction: "The view from top Republican Mitch McConnell...will health care reform be BIPARTISAN." Not, will it be effective. Not, does McConnell/Obama have any ideas that are strong on the merits, and if so what are they? Just, "OMG! WILL SWEET SWEET BIPARTISANSHIP SAUCE BE LADLED ONTO AMERICA!?"

But first, Kathleen Sebellius. And Elmendorf! Will costs be contained? We should do nothing, maybe? AGHH! Sebellius says that the package will be full of recommendations that will help to bend the cost curve or whatever. BUT ELMENDORF, MY GOD! Sebellius says, that the status quo is unsustainable and must be addressed. BUT ELMENDORF, MY GOD! Was Gregory unable to get Elmendorf on this show? he can be questioned, as well, you know!

WAS IT A WAKE UP CALL? Sebellius says, UHM NOT REALLY. "There's no scoring right now for the things we know will save money long term."

Maybe it would just be awesome to LOWER COSTS on Americans that go into debt getting baseline care?

Universality, Sebellius is not a priority, but it must "cover all Americans," which, I DON'T KNOW, seems like a CONTRADICTION!

David Gregory is in fine form today! I don't think there's anything in the world that makes him happier than the thought of health care reform failing. He is like a Girl Scout anticipating the next batch of Dosidos!

"WHY WOULDN'T EVERYBODY CHOOSE A PUBLIC PLAN?" Gregory asks. I don't know! WHY DOESN'T EVERYBODY BY THE GENERIC MEDICATIONS AT CVS? Seriously! They are the SAME EXACT DRUGS. Yet somehow, Advil gets sold. There are generic brands of everything at grocery stores. Somehow, brand names get bought. Probably because some are better, probably because PEOPLE LIKE STATUS. Anyway, I think that will drive people to private insurance plans: 1) Some will find competitive ways of outpacing the public plan, and 2) Some will simply say, WHAT ARE YOU, A POOR PERSON? DON'T LET YOUR FRIENDS THINK YOU ARE SOME SORT OF WRETCH WHO NEEDS POOR PEOPLE CARE? HAHAHA, DON'T BE A LOSER. David Gregory will probably personally shill for such wares.

Gregory and Sebellius get into a row about whether people would get to keep the doctors and care they have, which is a matter I do think the White House has been more than a little disingenuous about but which once again ELIDES THE LARGER POINT, that right now, through whim and tricksy circumstance, you could, at any time, lose the doctors you have and the care you're getting! I would love to have simply kept seeing the same old allergist I'd been seeing for years, but guess what, suddenly I could not, without spending a bloody fortune! And then it took two years to find another one! But health care isn't RATIONED, no no! I loved the health care I had where I paid ten dollars for prescriptions, but now I don't have that anymore! So what Gregory presents as problems, I see as "the current crap we lucky few who are allowed to have health care in this country have." And it's crap, but so far it keeps me basically alive, and so, it'd be great if everyone could just have access to the live-giving crap that I have, instead of just having asthma attacks and hoping for the best!

Like this. GREGORY: "Will Americans accept the fact that there are some limits to what the government will pay for?"

SEBELLIUS: "There are limits right now."

Reporting live, from DUH, is David Gregory.

Gregory is up in arms about the tax that will be levied on Americans. Let's see exactly how brutal this tax will be!

OH NO! THIS IS OBVIOUSLY MARXISM.

But Sebellius has apparently been given instructions to not just say, "OMG THESE FILTHY RICH PEOPLE WILL BE OKAY, REALLY, AND SO WILL JOBS." So, instead we get long, drawn out hemming and hawwing.

GREGORY: "He thinks upper income Americans should shoulder most of the burden."

ME: "UHM, THE 'BURDEN' IS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE GETTING SICK, WITH NO DOCTORS. With that in mind, I think that upper income Americans will be shouldering almost NO burden."

Sebellius says that by mid-October, we might have a swine-flu vaccine, which will make watching David Gregory much easier.

Now it's time fro Gregory to sit down with Plutocracy's Wingman, Senator Mitch McConnell. What does he think about the timing of the bill? McConnell says that neither bill should be passed, that their "rush and spend," and that OMGZ TEH DEFICITS WHICH I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BUILDING! "What we truly need is a bipartisan proposal, by which I mean either watered down junk or massive sops to the insurance industry."

Gregory wags his foolish little tail, nods along and asks, "Will it not get passed? PLEASE SAY IT WON'T GET PASSED." McConnell says he thinks it shouldn't. Gregory says, OH YEAH, DID YOU HEAR HOW SEBELLIUS TRIED TO ANSWER THAT?

"Let me just tell you is flawed about their whole approach, David," McConnell says, spitting canards about how Canadians all wish they could have our awesome health care system. Let's keep in mind that while he has Sebellius on, Gregory was constantly interrupting here, peppering her with questions. What does McConnell get? He gets to complete his sentences -- his melodramatic sentences -- withourt question.

MCCONNELL: Surveys say* that Americans overwhelmingly like their health care.

*WHAT SURVEYS? SOURCE? SOURCE? SHOW THE MATH? SHOW THE QUESTION? CITE THE ORGANIZATION WHO CONDUCTED IT?

Gregory, finally attempting actual reporting, asks McConnell if that isn't just a myth that we have the best health care in the world. He reads from an op-ed penned by Shannon Brownlee and Ezekeil Emanuel that somehow made it into the Washington Post past Fred Hiatt's all-nonsense-all-the-time policy.

MCCONNELL: That's one expert!

Uhm, it's actually, TWO EXPERTS. TWO. Counting: it's important to be able to do, to run the country.

MCCONNELL: If you look at the surveys....

WHAT SURVEYS? SOURCE? SOURCE? SHOW THE MATH? SHOW THE QUESTION? CITE THE ORGANIZATION WHO CONDUCTED IT?

MCCONNELL: ...they don't think quality is the problem. They think cost and access are the problem.

Cost and access being two things that make our health care system of very low quality!

McConnell says that Safeway will save us! They are fighting smoking, and obesity! And yet, I bet if I go to the Safeway, ten minutes from my apartment, I will be able to buy cigarettes and pork rinds!

Gregory reads Ted Kennedy's op-ed aloud, for the sake of sentimentality. He attempts a complicated metaphor about the auto industry abotu Ford whining about how the government's intervention in Chrysler and GM's financing is undercutting their own, and this proves that the private industries will all collapse. Except that people are still buying Toyotas and Hondas and BMWs and VWs and whatnot, so maybe it's really Ford, who's selling cars nobody wants, because they are terrible? YES THIS IS THE CASE. I concede that government intervention in an industry will be of no benefit to anyone who'd like to get rich manufacturing or selling crap that everybody hates, and that this is too bad.

McConnell says the stimpak has failed and that there should be no more stimulus. What would he do? Gregory doesn't ask. Instead, he asks why he won't support Sotomayor, to which he says she won't be an umpire and call balls and strikes.

McConnell is disturbed by anyone who would force an American soldier to say bad things about the country under duress, but really, Mitch! Those are just "enhanced interrogation techniques!" Dick Cheney says that's all okay.

Gregory says wow, it's do or die time for health care, and it's so exciting that it's not working. The president is in "campaign mode." CAMPAIGNS ARE SHINY. Why can't more Americans stop being sick and learn to embrace the healing powers of the SHINY. Gigot points out that Democrats won't be able to bring themselves to do the right thing unless everyone's approval ratings are totally high and everyone's assured of re-election, and THAT IS BASICALLY TRUE.

Norris notes that it's the last-minute horse trading that makes legislation worse. I think it's "allowing Ben Nelson to talk about stuff and try to do things" that ruins legislation. Seriously, Ben Nelson belongs in a high-chair so that he doesn't hurt anyone.

Richard Wolffe says Obama has to be unconventional...different...not normal...there's a word, I think...that best sums it up...OH YEAH! RENEGADE. Make it about pocketbooks, like a RENEGADE. RENEGADE THAT STUFF. SOMEBODY ALREADY USED THE WORD "MAVERICK." SO LET'S GET RENEGADEY!

Harwood wonder how anyone will be able to get the public to credit the Obama administration for economic gains that lad behind the present moment? UHM, IF HE DESERVES CREDIT, YOU COULD REPORT IT AS SUCH.

Now, Richard Wolffe is talking abour how awesome Obama is doing in Michigan, because of all the RENEGADING.

Okay, this is the worst segue in the history of the news industry:

GREGORY: [with beaming, schoolgirl excitement] You talk about health care and you talk about the economy and it just leads you to start thinking about the campaign and opposition from Hillary Clinton and then all of the questions about the Secretary of State who is now, uhhh...in India sort of off the injured list here and her elbow in better shape and so she was in India in a deplomitic [I think he means to say, "DIPLOMATIC" but the word that came out of his mouth was "DEPLOMITIC"] mission over this weekend this is what the AP wrote on Wednesday about Hillary Clinton falling off center stage...

And then he reads an article from the AP, for some reason. But read that transition! Who wrote that goddamned thing? Sarah Palin? YIKES.

Michele Norris says, "I think that too much has been made of this Obama versus Clinton narrative." I think that too much is being made of MEET THE PRESS' ability to WRITE A NARRATIVE.

Wolffe says that all the principals like one another, but that the staffs are rancorous jerks.

David Gregory says that it was awesome to be able to afford to take his son to the All-Star Game (and to afford health care for his family, presumably) and he thinks it's great that rich baseball players deigned to shake the hands of people who do community service! WHY IT WAS A NEAT MOMENT WHERE RICH CELEBRITIES PRETENDED THAT MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE HAD ACTUAL HUMANITY AND IT WAS SUPER NEAT! "As a dad sitting in the stands, I thought that this is what's wholesome about baseball." And then those community service went home and struggled to pay their health care bills, BUT WHAT A TEACHABLE MOMENT FOR DAVID GREGORY.

Oh, and look, if you think for one second I am going to sit here and listen to what David Gregory has to say about Walter Cronkite's legacy, the answer is NO, NOT FOR ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD. I am going to save David Gregory's thoughts on Walter Cronkite for the time of my death, so that me and Walter Cronkite and Jesus can all gather by the celestial cathode ray device and have a good laugh. Then I'll faithfully wait for my wife to arrive so that we can try out "angel sex."

Anyway, tra la. That is all for this week in the life of our Sunday mornings. Now for the BAD NEWS! The BAD NEWS is that do to some important Huff Post team maneuvers, related to an office move, I will be unable to bring you a live blog next Sunday. THIS WILL BE PRACTICE FOR WHEN I GO ON VACATION! However, I will be putting up a post like always on the site, so that those of you who watch the shows, read along, and kick it with each other in the comments can continue to do so. What I think would be great, is if any of you happens upon the sort of important news story during the week that so often gets ingnored on Sunday, send me an email and I'll toss it in the post as something to discuss. Think about this as an opportunity to program your own Sunday morning show.

Again, very sorry I will be away next week. BUT YOU WILL SURVIVE, provided you have health insurance. Have a great week.

Hello, fellow Muggles, and welcome to this week's edition of your Sunday Morning Liveblog, your weekly, occasionally witty rundown of the week in political monkeyshines and the Hollow Men who rend the...
Hello, fellow Muggles, and welcome to this week's edition of your Sunday Morning Liveblog, your weekly, occasionally witty rundown of the week in political monkeyshines and the Hollow Men who rend the...
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- truegreen I'm a Fan of truegreen 25 fans permalink

If its Sunday, then it must be Conservative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 07/19/2009

JohnKing? John King, cannot and must not ever be taken seriously!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 07/19/2009

John King is nothing more than David Gregory twin intellectual brother

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 07/19/2009
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 81 fans permalink
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Well said. The fact that between them they're on what? with repeats12 hours every Sunday is sickening.

Meanwhile, the always fascinating and impartial "GPS" gets one hour that is basically buried in the mid-day schedule.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 07/19/2009
- kasv I'm a Fan of kasv 22 fans permalink

And the fiance of Dana Bash.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 07/19/2009
- JustLucky I'm a Fan of JustLucky 19 fans permalink
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He's his twin brother in many ways - not just intellectual. Kinda' creepy...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 07/19/2009
- MMJones I'm a Fan of MMJones 51 fans permalink

Mean Gregory... Sorry, John King.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 07/19/2009

Same thing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 07/19/2009
- awb I'm a Fan of awb 10 fans permalink

Rachel Maddow could revive MTP
So could Lawrence O'Donnell

Please email them to save this program:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6872152/ns/meet_the_press/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 07/19/2009
- 123dee I'm a Fan of 123dee 15 fans permalink

Thanks just sent an e-mail

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 07/19/2009
- titantom I'm a Fan of titantom 33 fans permalink

How much money does Mitch McConnell get from the Insurance Lobbyists?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 07/19/2009
- norwaylass I'm a Fan of norwaylass 5 fans permalink

Those up for special scrutiny include (and their receipts from the health care industry):

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ): $7,504,867
Sen. John Kerry (D-MA): $7,341,399
Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA): $2,149,503
Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT): $1,795,949
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY): $1,743,835
Source Huff Post

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 07/19/2009
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 81 fans permalink
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Great question! I'm sure David Gregory asked this right away. Because it's IMPORTANT!

He did, didn't he? ... Didn't he?......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 07/19/2009
- MMJones I'm a Fan of MMJones 51 fans permalink

MEET THE PRESS IS so OVER. I am so struck by John King's attack dog questioning of Sebelius... and he's all smiling, slow questioning of McConnell right now. He questions the old guy with gentleness and, unlike he did with Sec'y of Health, whose answers were cut off more than not, he actually lets this old Rep fully answer the question.

I am turning him off for good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 07/19/2009

Well this is the same David Gregory who went begging for an interiveiw with Sanford even alluding to Sanford that he would give him a free pass on his Soul Mate Roamnce if he came on his show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 07/19/2009
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 81 fans permalink
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That's something "Reliable Sources" with Howie Kurtz should have looked at--the disgusting lack of ethics--and presence of brown-nosing--from his media buddies on the Right.

But...never happen. Never, ever, ever, happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 07/19/2009
- aznurse I'm a Fan of aznurse 62 fans permalink

they should call it "Meet the Puss"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 07/19/2009
- Decipherer I'm a Fan of Decipherer 121 fans permalink

OK, which is it, Meet the Press or John King? They are two different programs on two different networks, but in reality, what the @#$%'s the difference?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 07/19/2009
- AGarcia I'm a Fan of AGarcia 14 fans permalink

Asking Walter Cronkite, on CBS' Sunday Morning: "Would you have ever considered running for political office".... answers: "No, and I hope no news anchor ever does because afterwards every news anchor could be asked about whether they had some political motive. It would be one more nail in the coffin of the public's belief in our objectivity". I think the coffin is finished. RIP Cronkite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 07/19/2009
- kasv I'm a Fan of kasv 22 fans permalink

The last vestige of journalism integrity and objectivity will be buried soon. RIP Mr. Cronkite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 07/19/2009
- Decipherer I'm a Fan of Decipherer 121 fans permalink

Not quite -- there a few good ones left in broadcast journalism like Dan Rather, Fareed Zacharia, Bill Moyers, and Daniel Schorr who seek the truth first and the devil take the hindmost.

After that, well, not so much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 07/19/2009
- blaising I'm a Fan of blaising 23 fans permalink
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MTP and it's ilk are all in the broadcast booth anyways...the game is actually down on the field.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 07/19/2009
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Howard,

While you want to talk about Nightline's obsession with Michael Jackson, Let's talk about your Network's obsession with him (Larry King anyone).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 07/19/2009
- Decipherer I'm a Fan of Decipherer 121 fans permalink

Sorry Jason, but on a beautiful day here in DC and a very exciting mountain stage of the Tour de France on the air right now, even your excellent commentary will have to wait until later.

This teevee garbage? Well, I guess we can live and live better without it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 07/19/2009
- Enigma2008 I'm a Fan of Enigma2008 6 fans permalink

Reasons to boycott Meet the Press and David Gregory:

His insultingly incredulous tone in questioning anyone left of the C streeters.
His laying out in detail the Republican talking point objections to any administration policy.
His repeating his own script in questioning the guests when setting up the discussion with journalists rather exploring the responses of the guest.
His using the deceiving right/left format for health care reform discussion. Of all topics, this one clearly has right, left and center factions that should be covered. That's where the real story is---not the latest CBO scoring of a work in progress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 07/19/2009

I find it deeply ironic that we are spending the morning celebrating the fine reporting skills and enormously successful career of Cronkite in the midst of shows moderated by dolts such as Gregory and Wallace.

How far journalism has fallen. I caught someone saying that we are currently in a world of opinion journalism. Those two words, opinion and journalism, cannot be used in the same sentence. They are contradictory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 07/19/2009
- Decipherer I'm a Fan of Decipherer 121 fans permalink

And to think that Chris Wallace is the son of one of Walter Cronkite's most admired colleagues, Mike Wallace, who is still in the business.

So, in the span of one generation, we've descended from the heights of sound journalism to its absolute depths.

Way to go, maroons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 07/19/2009
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As I stated months ago when the network chose to make him the commentator for Meet the Press, the hired a closeted Republican who puts a slant on all things Republican to make Republicans look as though they are right all of the time. I can honestly say that I never knew for sure what Tim Russert's political base was, nor did I ever know Uncle Walter's; and that's the way things should be. Gregory should be fired by his network and then hired by Fox; he'd be a much better fit there than he is on NBC and his network was shortsighted when they hired him in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 07/19/2009

[They] "hired a closeted Republican who puts a slant on all things Republican"

Who? Rove's dance partner?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 07/19/2009
- MMJones I'm a Fan of MMJones 51 fans permalink

You said it much better than I did!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 07/19/2009
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today is a sad day, bc I am turning off my special MTP alarm clock. sorry, tim. I tried. I really did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 07/19/2009
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DAVID GREGORY MUST GO!

He is a Republican tool and doesn't even try to disguise it. Gregory pushes the Republican agenda by berating Democrat guests while allowing Republican lies to go unchecked. Gregory asks disingenuous question of Democrats which are narrow in scope and do not allow meaningful insight or reflection to occur. He is rude to Democrats and continuously cut them off while always putting them on the defensive. Meanwhile he generously provides Republican guests valuable time to repeat their obstructionist lies completely unquestioned and unfettered.

Worst - MTP just infuriates me now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 07/19/2009

Well, Gregory spent 15 minutes sarcastically interrupting Kathleen Sebelius and pointing his finger at her on MTP. I wrote a note to NBC saying that Gregory was rude and disrespectful and had no control over the conversation. I also said that I would watch MTP again when he is fired.

Rangel cracked me up on Face the Nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 07/19/2009
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I decided to give up my 30 year run of MTP when they hired Gregory. When I was a kid I watched this show faithfully and continued watching until Tim Russert passed away. I gave Gregory one chance and he blew it on the first show after Tom Brokaw gave up the temporary seat. MTP has never had lower ratings and that because Gregory has a Republican bias that is obvious, which is the first lesson we writers/journalist learn to NOT do when reporting a story, providing commentary on television, or writing about an issue. We are supposed to present BOTH sides of the story and let the viewer/reader decide for him or herself--PERIOD!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 07/19/2009
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I too watched MTP faithfully, even as a young man who was challanged by not understanding the issues being discussed. It is rather simple today. The Upper One Percenters own the media, create employees like Gregory and pay them enough to be Upper Five Percenters. Every UFP will do what ever it takes to become a UOP. It takes a lot of lies and scare tactics to get half of the lower 95% of the population to vote the interests of the UFP. Hence, the Sunday Morning Sermons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 07/19/2009
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I didn't see it, and I won't even watch it on the the Internet - but I can't help but wish she had interrupted him and politely told him not to point his finger at her, or otherwise called him on his behavior. She's such a lovely and well mannered woman that I think it would have had quite an impact if she had indulged herself in such an uncharacteristic way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 07/19/2009

If you watch Face The Nation you will get to see Charlie Rangel tell us we need to pass this health care bill fast even though there are three separate bills which are not realistic and I dont know which of those bills he wants to pass anyway since he just keeps saying to pass something.Mass tried this and they are already backtracking and kicking people off the plan because THERE IS NO MONEY TO PAY FOR IT.If we had honest politicians in office Charlie Rangel who are not being investigated for ethics violations Charlie Rangel maybe we would have extra money for the uninsured and could come up with reform that actually works.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 07/19/2009
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Sorry, can't take CR. The bs artist is treated like a king from the seniors here in Harlem, and has a lock on the Dem political structure all the way down to NYC council (Inez Dickens), part of the Gang of 4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Four_(Harlem)
But there are other corrupt "public servants" flying under the radar: http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 07/19/2009
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JANE, where were you during Bush administration debate in going to war in Iraq? We didn't have enough money to burn in an unjust war. You should have spoken out then. It would have save beside money, a lot of lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 07/19/2009
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Jason, there are not enough barf baglets in Bulemia to make it safe for me to watch any of these Sunday morning meshuggahs. What's critical to keep top o' mind here is that that shows like these are very much in the control of powerful media owners, who have carefully cultivated this Sunday programming in a way designed to make listeners believe that these shows provide the most authoritative and reliable voices on the political issues of the day.

The problem is that these powerful string-pullers show their cards every single Sunday by basically laying out for us who they control -- both the moderator and the guests. "Yo -- these people are following our orders. We control how they frame issues, what is said and what is omitted, and what propaganda they spew."

All of them are literally tools. I knew that the minute I first started hearing David Gregory. The stink of self-satisfied annointment is hard not to smell here. He does the bidding of the string-pullers, and in exchange, he's given tremendous, tremendous perks.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
--William Colby, former CIA Director, quoted by Dave McGowan, Derailing Democracy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 07/19/2009
- KCFreedom I'm a Fan of KCFreedom 18 fans permalink

After watching these shows "religiously" most of my life, I discovered during the Bu$h years they were not only not "liberal" media, they were basically insulting establishment shills. I don't know if they changed, or I woke up, but I won't even turn my TV on Sunday morning in any way to get them a rating through my digital cable box; I'll tune it directly to any network not associated with the big 4.

The only one I can even stomach anymore is Bill Moyers Journal, which only recently started being shown during their slot, which he traditionally was a Friday night phenomenon, when hardly anybody under 65 is home watching regular TV. Even though I trust him more than other TV "journalists" I still have my doubts sometimes.

I think your quote from William Colby pretty much sums it up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 07/19/2009
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Try Fareed Zakaria - what a breath of fresh air!
http://www.fareedzakaria.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 07/19/2009
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And "carefully cultivated" cwap it is! But, then, these shows are where so many lazy people tune in to get their stereotypes, pejoratives, talking points and ad hominem 'facts" re-inflated.

I managed to watch 5 minutes of the first DG hosted MTP and was aghast at the abomination NBC decided was a fitting replacement for Tim Russert's legacy. Tools they are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 07/19/2009
- 3rdCitizen I'm a Fan of 3rdCitizen 35 fans permalink

"It could get disgusting, watching all these people who fail miserably at living up to [Walter Cronkite's] legacy claim to be inspired by him."
How true, how true. I weep for the state of the MSM. (Meanwhile, the kittens just puke.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 07/19/2009
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