Swine flu could hit up to 40 percent in US

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MIKE STOBBE | 07/24/09 11:11 PM | AP

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ATLANTA — In a disturbing new projection, health officials say up to 40 percent of Americans could get swine flu this year and next and several hundred thousand could die without a successful vaccine campaign and other measures.

The estimates by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are roughly twice the number of those who catch flu in a normal season and add greater weight to hurried efforts to get a new vaccine ready for the fall flu season.

Swine flu has already hit the United States harder than any other nation, but it has struck something of a glancing blow that's more surprising than devastating. The virus has killed about 300 Americans and experts believe it has sickened more than 1 million, comparable to a seasonal flu with the weird ability to keep spreading in the summer.

Health officials say flu cases may explode in the fall, when schools open and become germ factories, and the new estimates dramatize the need to have vaccines and other measures in place.

A world health official said the first vaccines are expected in September and October. The United States expects to begin testing on some volunteers in August, with 160 million doses ready in October.

The CDC came up with the new projections for the virus' spread last month, but it was first disclosed in an interview this week with The Associated Press.

The estimates are based on a flu pandemic from 1957, which killed nearly 70,000 in the United States but was not as severe as the infamous Spanish flu pandemic of 1918-19. The number of deaths and illnesses from the new swine flu virus would drop if the pandemic peters out or if efforts to slow its spread are successful, said CDC spokesman Tom Skinner.

"Hopefully, mitigation efforts will have a big impact on future cases," he said. Besides pushing flu shots, health officials might urge measures such as avoiding crowded places, handwashing, cough covering and timely use of medicines like Tamiflu.

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Because so many more people are expected to catch the new flu, the number of deaths over two years could range from 90,000 to several hundred thousand, the CDC calculated. Again, that is if a new vaccine and other efforts fail.

In a normal flu season, about 36,000 people die from flu and its complications, according to the American Medical Association. That too is an estimate, because death certificates don't typically list flu as a cause of death. Instead, they attribute a fatality to pneumonia or other complications.

Influenza is notoriously hard to predict, and some experts have shied away from a forecast. At a CDC swine flu briefing Friday, one official declined to answer repeated questions about her agency's own estimate.

"I don't think that influenza and its behavior in the population lends itself very well to these kinds of models," said the official, Dr. Anne Schuchat, who oversees the CDC's flu vaccination programs.

The World Health Organization says as many as 2 billion people could become infected in the next two years – nearly a third of the world population. The estimates look at potential impacts in a two-year period because past flu pandemics have occurred in waves over more than one year.

Swine flu has been an escalating concern in Britain and some other European nations, where the virus' late arrival has grabbed attention and some officials at times have sounded alarmed.

In an interview Friday, the WHO's flu chief told the AP the global epidemic is still in its early stages.

"Even if we have hundreds of thousands of cases or a few millions of cases ... we're relatively early in the pandemic," Keiji Fukuda said at WHO headquarters in Geneva.

The first vaccines are expected in September and October, Fukuda said. Other vaccines won't be ready until well into the flu season when a further dramatic rise in swine flu cases is expected.

First identified in April, swine flu has likely infected more than 1 million Americans, the CDC believes, with many of those suffering mild cases never reported. There have been 302 deaths and nearly 44,000 laboratory-identified cases, according to numbers released Friday morning.

Because the swine flu virus is new, most people haven't developed an immunity to it. So far, most of those who have died from it in the United States have had other health problems, such as asthma.

The virus has caused an unusual number of serious illnesses in teens and young adults; seasonal flu usually is toughest on the elderly and very young children.

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Associated Press writer Frank Jordans in Geneva contributed to this report.

ATLANTA — In a disturbing new projection, health officials say up to 40 percent of Americans could get swine flu this year and next and several hundred thousand could die without a successful va...
ATLANTA — In a disturbing new projection, health officials say up to 40 percent of Americans could get swine flu this year and next and several hundred thousand could die without a successful va...
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- Hedonist88 I'm a Fan of Hedonist88 15 fans permalink

People get off the fear-control manic bus. There are easier ways to manipulate and control a population. Just look at the American public for a perfect example (the fundamentalist, "bitter" crowd). Democracy serves to provide the best tools to shepherd the masses into thinking they actually are in control, but in many cases due to voter apathy, tyrants manage to squirm into power. Fortunately this time around people power actually worked in the USA and the crooks got thrown out in 2008.

The H1NI is the real deal and it has some parralels to the earlier pandemic of 1918. The initial stages in '18 were mild - just like we're experiencing now - in summer but as winter set in the virus became deadlier than subsided again before getting deadlier and deadlier in waves that killed millions of people.

We can't know how H1NI will react in winter - but looking at its rapid progression this summer - we can only hope for the best and take all precautions to stay safe - and get the godd@amn vaccination when the time comes!!

Theories of alien-control, illuminati (the birthers think it's an Obama ploy to rule over America (huh?)) and other hare-brained conspiracies are best left for the movies.

Good luck and stay safe ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 08/06/2009
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People PLEASE scan this document, a reference worthy effort.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/16849102/Evidence-of-the-Use-of-Pandemic-Flu-to-Depopulate-USA

May have already been posted elsewhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 08/02/2009

Pregnant women are advised to abstain from tuna fish because of the increased danger posed by the possible mercury contamination of tuna fish.

Pregnant women are being told to get the H1N1 vaccine first.

We are being told that most of the H1N1 vaccines will contain thimerisol, which contains mercury.

Also we are told that this vaccine is not suitable for infants under 6 months of age. What about infants in utero?

This is insane recklessness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 07/30/2009
- Erdgeist I'm a Fan of Erdgeist 83 fans permalink
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CDC is presently confusing fact with theory. Learn how to really prevent the flu. Listen to Dr. John Cannell on vitamin D.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--NqqB2nhBE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oc2Od7Yytk

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 07/29/2009
- wrender I'm a Fan of wrender 24 fans permalink
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Soooo....

In Oklahoma, they are testing the swine flu vaccine on 12,000 children, starting at the age of 3! They are testing on CHILDREN for NEGATIVE side-affects. What has this world come to? WHY isn't this article linked on the HP? This is sickening beyond words.

http://newsok.com/state-kids-to-get-shot-at-swine-flu-vaccine/article/3387609

And in Seattle:

http://www.examiner.com/x-1146-Seattle-Eastside-Family-Examiners~y2009m7d23-Kids-and-babies-needed-to-test-new-swine-flu-vaccine

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 07/28/2009

I just want to get people aware of this swine flu more and more and take precautions accordingly. Oh man this has killed so many people.
If you are interested check the article below to know all about swine flu (I have collected around 200 links to good articles and sites about swine flu)
http://markthispage.blogspot.com/2009/06/all-you-want-to-know-about-swine-flu.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 07/27/2009
- GunneraGirl I'm a Fan of GunneraGirl 146 fans permalink
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Donald Rumsfeld and vaccinations:

http://upswing.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/26/2735113-donald-rumsfelds-swine-flu-vaccine-tamiflu-could-paralyze-or-kill-you-while-it-makes-investors-rich

There's a lot more if you google Rumsfeld and vaccines ... but this is a nice start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 07/25/2009
- MamaBird62 I'm a Fan of MamaBird62 94 fans permalink

I guess most people on this thread have never lost a loved one to a virus. I have.
I appreciate the researchers, the CDC, the doctors, and everyone who contributes funds to the organizations that help us prevent the spread of disease and treat people who are infected.
Thank you.
As for the rest, well, have a nice day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 07/25/2009
- GunneraGirl I'm a Fan of GunneraGirl 146 fans permalink
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Never had a flu shot. Never going to. At 56 I have never had the flu. Not once.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 07/25/2009
- Patriot68 I'm a Fan of Patriot68 2 fans permalink
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Anyone ever read the book Rainbox Six from tom clancy? Maybe that book was actually being prophetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 07/25/2009
- manicore I'm a Fan of manicore 10 fans permalink
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Be AFRAID Be Very Afraid. This is getting so old. I Would not put that Vaccine in My Dog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 07/25/2009
- Pyrum I'm a Fan of Pyrum 34 fans permalink

Neither would I. Baxter International can shove their vaccine where the sun don't shine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 07/25/2009
- MamaBird62 I'm a Fan of MamaBird62 94 fans permalink

Someone commented that vaccines killed more people than flu in the 1918 Spanish (avian) flu pandemic.

Umm. The vaccine against that virus was discovered in 2006. A little late to have caused any deaths in 1918.

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2006/oct/17/news/chi-0610170182oct17

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 07/25/2009
- Ceregene I'm a Fan of Ceregene 116 fans permalink
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Project it....... then release or inject the disease into a few unsuspecting people, turn them lose into the mainstream and voila.

Fear.............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 07/25/2009
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BINGO! Ceregene.

The swine flu that we or they are seeing currently is the same ole' thing...
the initial stages are (by comparison) NOTHING but to create panic
and a reason to convince masses to take vaccines.

The problem comes with the MANDATORY VACCINATIONS
with god only knows what, eventually live virus in the vaccines
on round 2 of a 2 or 3 stage vaccination process. And then
you have hosts infecting the population.

Global pandemic which has roots in absolute BIOTERRORISM
through MILITARIZATION of Health Care process, lying ahead.
The laws have all been passed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 08/02/2009
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I don't believe them, and I won't be taking whatever vaccine they come up with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 07/25/2009
- CRUMBOWSKI I'm a Fan of CRUMBOWSKI 19 fans permalink

I agree...and every year..when almost everyone tht takes the 'flu shot' gets sick..feels worse..etc...and i don't get the flu at all...well..I just laugh and laugh...even though it is very serious..

I get the flu every 3-4 years...it lasts 3-4 'bad day's" then maybe another 5-7 day's before I feel really..fully back to 'normal'..whatever that is..so..this whole thing is..a really..terrifying example of the shere magnitude of the POWER of F.E.A.R. or False Evidence Appearing Real.

My Wife works in the local ER..when the hysteria was going on re. the 'Swine Flu' (irony Abounds on that one..) she told me that EVERY Dr. ..Nurse..Everyone...was baffled..BAFFLED! by the flip out..and the Media response/hysteria/stick poking... It was in fact more of a wake-up call to most of them re. the reality of PANIC and the Media role in panic then anything else..this story..is kind of amazing..because it's like they are TRYING AGAIN..why?

Combat Brigades in the South? FEMA Camps? Immigration Camps? hmmmm? I dunno...I just dunno!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 07/25/2009
- mazaza I'm a Fan of mazaza 37 fans permalink

If you're young, in good health and seldom have had a flu... take it. That flu is benign... unless it kills you. Most people who died of it were young and had seldomly been exposed to flu or, granted, had prior health conditions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 07/25/2009
- MamaBird62 I'm a Fan of MamaBird62 94 fans permalink

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/recommendations.htm

Here's what the CDC has to say about treating this illness and who is at greater risk. It's a flu epidemic, nothing more, nothing less. No need for hysteria nor conspiracy theories about pharma, the gov't and vaccines.
Just the facts ma'am.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 07/25/2009
- CRUMBOWSKI I'm a Fan of CRUMBOWSKI 19 fans permalink

..Okay..I respect your point..truly..but I think I see a kind of..contradiction..IF you are saying it is just The Flu..and that the CDC is making this clear..then..WHO(M) is making the ..most likely..Billions in Flu Vaccines? If this is Not..Big Pharma..then Who is it? And why is it being so completely and obviously "sold' to the public as the.."Plague"?

The contradiction I see is that there could very well be an "economic" 'conspiracy'..a business model based on lies etc..which happen every day..bail-outs..Goldman Sachs laddering...good Ol Bernie and his '17th floor'...Point being that it is BECAUSE this 'flu' poses no real 'threat' as perceived by the MSM..primarily..but is still making BILLIONS for someone..the Money is being made for a vaccine that is largely not needed..so? I gotta say..something smells fishy in Denmark..yaddah..yaddah..blah..blah...who cares..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 07/25/2009
- MamaBird62 I'm a Fan of MamaBird62 94 fans permalink

Tell that to the families of people who have died of this virus, and would not have if they'd had the right antiviral or been vaccinated.
Because people at CNN or HuffPo hype the drama, that doesn't mean this isn't a public health problem to be addressed in a sensible manner.
I know several people who've come down with H1N1 and they all got better quickly, all were teen boys. It does cause disruption to lives and so it's good to let people know how to prevent the spread of this illness and how to recognize it. For those in certain groups the risk is far greater and they should get medical advice about the vaccine.

Like you I also don't get the flu vaccine, but I'm a healthy 47 year old. I've had the flu maybe twice in my life.
I'd let doctors make the call for individuals, rather than put out some blanket statement that this is all baloney.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 07/25/2009
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