Governors Holding Midwest High Speed Rail Summit, Sign Pact

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First Posted: 07-26-09 03:08 PM   |   Updated: 08-26-09 05:12 AM

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CHICAGO (AP) -- Midwest governors met in Chicago on Monday in a show of unity as they push for an eight-state, high-speed rail network - agreeing to set up a group that will coordinate the states' bid for a share of $8 billion in federal stimulus cash for such projects.

The one-day gathering, billed as a Midwest High Speed Rail Summit, otherwise offered few new details, including how much it could cost to build the system that would connect 12 metropolitan areas with Chicago as its hub.

Governors from eight states - Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio - had already pledged to work together to build the network, saying it would help reduce road congestion and lower greenhouse gas emissions.

A memorandum signed Monday in Chicago by Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn and four other governors sets up the Midwest Rail Steering Group, which will coordinate applications and lobbying for federal stimulus money.

In addition to Quinn, Govs. Jim Doyle of Wisconsin, Chet Culver of Iowa, Jennifer Granholm of Michigan and Ted Strickland of Ohio also attended, as did Chicago Mayor Richard Daley.

The governors of Minnesota, Missouri and Indiana signed the memorandum earlier and did not attend the gathering.

The document does not include a price tag for the Midwest network, though some estimates say it will cost at least $10 billion. At a news conference in Chicago, governors also couldn't say just how big a slice of the federal stimulus pie they hoped to receive.

"We'd like all $8 billion" of the available stimulus funds, Doyle joked. Wisconsin's governor added that up to $19 billion in federal money from other sources could also be made available over the next several years.

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Some have criticized the governors for being unclear about costs.

"They don't want the price tag out there when everyone's talking fiscal restraint," said John Tillman, head of the conservative Illinois Policy Institute. After costs of construction, Tillman said, operating expenses could soar into the billions of dollars over several years.

Tillman also raised doubts about whether any such network would reduce either road congestion or emissions, saying it's not clear whether enough drivers would abandon their cars for high-speed trains.

Competition for a slice of the federal stimulus money will be stiff.

The Midwest plan and a high-speed rail plan from California appear to be among the front-runners for stimulus cash, but 40 states have submitted 278 plans totaling $102 billion for federal rail funding, officials have said.

The Midwest project foresees an initial push to upgrade three routes: Chicago-St. Louis; Chicago-Madison, Wis., via Milwaukee; and Chicago-Pontiac, Mich., through Detroit. Work would extend later to other lines, including St. Louis-Kansas City, Mo. The upgrades would enable trains to travel up to 110 mph; currently, the top speed of trains is usually under 80 mph.

The project, which could take 10 to 20 years to complete, would create 15,000 construction jobs and 57,000 permanent jobs, Granholm said.

-ASSOCIATED PRESS

The committee's memorandum of understanding:



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The press release announcing the plans:


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CHICAGO (AP) -- Midwest governors met in Chicago on Monday in a show of unity as they push for an eight-state, high-speed rail network - agreeing to set up a group that will coordinate the states' bid...
CHICAGO (AP) -- Midwest governors met in Chicago on Monday in a show of unity as they push for an eight-state, high-speed rail network - agreeing to set up a group that will coordinate the states' bid...
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I am keeping my fingers crossed that High Speed Rail in the US is franchised (see the proposed DesertXpress - LA to Vegas) to private "for profit" companies and NOT touched by Amtrak, which in my opinion would be the Kiss of Death.
As a former Amtrak employee, I witnessed first-hand the waste of money, missed opportunities, ineptitude and mismanagement. For instance, after more than 30 years, they are just now training their on-board employees with POS cash registers. Enough said.
As one who has traveled on Japan Rail's Shinkansen, France's TGV, even standard speed opertaions like Britain's Virgin Trains and Canada's VIARail among others, I have seen "The Present" and know that we must get it right and model ourselves after these overseas successes. Although Amtrak's NEC (Northeast Corridor Acela) and the Auto Train have been the only money makers for the NRPC, it certainly isn't in the same league as overseas rail operations. We should and must Raise the Bar with innovation and imagination when it comes to High Speed Rail in the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 07/28/2009
- poomplet I'm a Fan of poomplet 19 fans permalink
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LA to Vegas has huge potential, and NYC-Boston made/makes sense.

But who on earth is clamoring to shave 10-20% off 3-8 hour train rides between St. Louis, Chicago, Milwaukee and/or Minneapolis? Major corporations outside of Chicago are very non-centralized, meaning businessmen/women would need to go thru the in/out hassles of renting cars, eliminating the minimal time-savings of the train trip. Airfares on the longer of those routes is cheap, driving makes sense for trips under 4 hours.

Where will the customers come from? And again....THIS IS NOT HIGH-SPEED RAIL, the speed increase/time savings is downright trivial.

It's a political money grab, which I THOUGHT hardcore liberals would be against, but I guess I'm wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 07/28/2009
- poomplet I'm a Fan of poomplet 19 fans permalink
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What are you people on?

This is a colossal waste of money...money that needs to go to bridges, roads and infrastructure people actually USE.

110 mph vs 80...THAT is worth $10-20 BILLION to you? 3.7 hours vs 5 for a trip to Chicago to Minneapolis...THAT is worth it (and it won't average 110 mph, probby more like 85)?

It's not like the Concorde vs. 747 kinda time-savin­gs....it's not even close to the Acela between Boston & NYC (150 mph max, 86mph average!!!­)....calli­ng it high-speed rail is a JOKE! And unlike NYC/Boston, the demand for business travel between Chicago/St. Louis/Milw­aukee/Minn­eapolis is microscopic.

It's a money-grab, pure & simple...if we don't get our hands in the pot, someone else will. THE POT IS EMPTY....why is this idea being funded @ national level?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 07/28/2009
- Lisbeth35 I'm a Fan of Lisbeth35 2 fans permalink

YES!!! Let's make it happen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/28/2009
- jalowe1957 I'm a Fan of jalowe1957 40 fans permalink
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Why all this when there's still ongoing debate over extending the South Shore line into Valparaiso and Lowell?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 07/27/2009
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This is huge.

However inauspicious it may seem to you non-midwesterners, this is HUGE.

Chicago to Minneapolis in 3.5 hours? Minneapoli­s-Milwauke­e in 3?

This is gonna be fantastic for us. Wisconsin isn't populated by large cities. Almost all of our southern towns were founded along rail lines between Chicago and the Twin Cities. This can only be good for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 07/27/2009
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A high-speed trip through hundreds of miles of shuttered factories and vacant neighborhoods. How lovely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 07/27/2009
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Yeah, you're right. Let's just keep spending it on highways and parking lots in Phoenix. That's MUCH smarter...and way more forward thinking....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 07/27/2009

Great, good luck guvs !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 07/27/2009
- ibsteve2u I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u 137 fans permalink
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Ohio should have been prepared; the Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland corridor is a natural candidate.

But politics in Ohio...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 07/26/2009
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 166 fans permalink
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Yes, Orange Man Boehner wasn't "onboard" for Ohioans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 07/27/2009
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