Microsoft, Yahoo Reach Web Search Deal

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MICHAEL LIEDTKE and JESSICA MINTZ | 07/29/09 05:50 PM | AP

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Vendor Patrick Porter works on a laptop marked with the logo for Bing, Microsoft's recently upgraded search engine, in a cafeteria at Microsoft in Redmond, Wash., Wednesday, July 29, 2009. The extended reach Microsoft Corp. is gaining with its new partnership with Yahoo Inc. will let it introduce Bing to more people. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)

SAN FRANCISCO — Microsoft finally persuaded Yahoo to surrender control of the Internet's second most popular search engine and join it in a daunting battle – taking on the overwhelming dominance of Google in the online advertising market.

A 10-year deal announced Wednesday gives Microsoft its best shot yet to show its new search technology, Bing, is as good as or better than Google's. Microsoft also hopes to use Yahoo to divert sales from Google, which generates more than $20 billion a year from ads.

Gaining access to Yahoo's audience would instantly more than triple Bing's U.S. market share to 28 percent. That's still a far cry from the remarkable 65 percent of U.S. searches handled by Google, according to the research firm comScore Inc.

By joining forces, Microsoft and Yahoo are betting they will be able to focus on their respective strengths. By turning over responsibility for search technology to Microsoft, Yahoo can concentrate on sales of billboard-style advertising on the Web – and figuring out how to keep luring traffic to its Web sites, which already attract more than 570 million people worldwide every month.

While the agreement shapes up as a potential boon for Microsoft, it was greeted in the stock market as a letdown for Yahoo. Just 14 months ago, Microsoft dangled $9 billion in front of Yahoo in an attempt to forge a search advertising partnership, only to be rebuffed. Yahoo had also turned down Microsoft's $47.5 billion bid to buy the entire company.

Yahoo has been struggling so badly since then that Microsoft isn't paying any money in advance. Instead, it will give Yahoo 88 percent of the search ad sales made on its Web site, above the usual commission of 70 to 80 percent.

By spending less on its own search technology, Yahoo expects to boost its annual operating profit by about $500 million – but not until 2012, when the two companies expect to have all the pieces of a complex technological puzzle in place.

"I think a lot of people are kind of looking at the numbers and seeing a lot of question marks where they expected to see exclamation points," said Scott Kessler, a Standard & Poor's equity analyst.

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Yahoo Inc. shares plunged $2.08, or 12 percent, to $15.14 as investors expressed disappointment over the absence of an immediate windfall. Microsoft Corp. shares gained 33 cents to $23.80 while Google Inc. shares shed $3.61 to $436.24.

It took Carol Bartz, Yahoo's chief executive, just six months to strike a deal with Microsoft – something that neither of her predecessors, Terry Semel and Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang, seemed interested in doing.

"This move makes up for a lot of the stupid mistakes made by the preceding administration," said technology analyst Rob Enderle, who thinks Yahoo will be able to devote more energy to developing services to compete with online hangouts like Facebook.

Shortly after her arrival, Bartz made it clear she was willing to farm out Yahoo's search engine for "boatloads of money" as long as she as thought the company would still get adequate information about its users' interests. Bartz predicted the deal will enrich the company over the long run.

"This agreement comes with boatloads of value for Yahoo, our users, and the industry," Bartz said.

Yahoo will have limited access to the data on users' searches, which yield insights that can be used to pick out ads more likely to pique a person's interest. The value of that information is why Microsoft wants to process more search requests.

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer could barely contain his excitement as he gushed about finally getting Yahoo on his side – something he has been trying to do for at least three years.

"I am very enthusiastic," Ballmer said in an interview. "This is what I have basically been saying for the past 18 months: The world will be better served for consumers, advertisers and publishers, and there will be more competition for Google, if we can somehow figure out how to get Microsoft and Yahoo together in search."

Antitrust regulators plan to review the agreement to make sure it doesn't lessen competition or compromise the privacy of people who use the search engines.

Google tried to stop Yahoo from falling into Microsoft's camp. Last year it formed its own proposed search advertising deal with Yahoo, only to be forced to retreat after U.S. antitrust officials threatened to sue.

Microsoft helped spearhead the campaign against a Google-Yahoo partnership. Now many people, including Ballmer, expect Google to try to turn the tables on Microsoft by opposing its Yahoo deal.

"There has traditionally been a lot of competition online, and our experience is that competition brings about great things for users," Google spokesman Adam Kovacevich said. "We're interested to learn more about the deal."

Advertisers will probably support Microsoft because a stronger player in the search market should protect them from potential abuses by Google, said Kevin Lee, CEO of online marketing specialist Didit Inc.

"If there's only one choice in search, that's just an uncomfortable position to be in," Lee said.

Like Yahoo, Microsoft has invested billions in search technology during the past decade. Yet it remained a distant third in market share while its online losses piled up. Microsoft is counting on Bing, unveiled last month, to turn things around.

Bing has been getting mostly positive reviews and picking up slightly more traffic with the help of a $100 million marketing campaign. Analysts believe the successful debut pushed Microsoft to reopen negotiations so it could expose its search engine improvements to a wider audience.

While Microsoft and Yahoo await government approval of their partnership, there is no doubt Google will try to increase its lead by upgrading its own search engine, said Danny Sullivan, editor of the online newsletter SearchEngineLand.

Already, Google is going after Microsoft's bread-and-butter business of software for personal computers. It's working on a free operating system for inexpensive PCs, a move that could threaten Microsoft's Windows.

"Google is very paranoid about Microsoft," Sullivan said. "They are always trying to figure out what kind of `evil' thing Microsoft is going to do next."

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Jessica Mintz reported from Seattle. AP Business Writer Christopher S. Rugaber contributed to this report from Washington.

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- JFD8 I'm a Fan of JFD8 11 fans permalink

When Microsoft saw it was screwed
It finally had to conclude
That to beat Google Inc.
Bing and Yahoo! should link
Though some say the key word's "collude."

News Short n' Sweet by JFD8
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 07/29/2009

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 07/29/2009
- jimmygee I'm a Fan of jimmygee 9 fans permalink
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Tried Bing. Not good. Get smart before you try and take on the biggest. I would switch in a minute but there's no comparison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 07/29/2009
- Yves Papa I'm a Fan of Yves Papa 14 fans permalink

Microhoo?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 07/29/2009
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You've got to give Bartz credit. She's managed to do what neither Terry Semel nor Jerry Yang could: make Yahoo! completely irrelevant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 07/29/2009


Can Microsoft & Yahoo Successfully challenge Google?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=5831.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 07/29/2009

yahoo search s.cks...no way this will help either party beat google

good articles http://www.iamned.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 07/29/2009

yup

good articles http://www.iamned.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 07/29/2009

I have a reason to finally cancel my Yahoo account.
b-bye

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 07/29/2009
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Yahoo is my bogus spam account used for all of those nosy entities that demand a real e-mail address for confirmation e-mails. You may want to consider keepind yours for that purpose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 07/29/2009
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Exactly. I actually believe that is why they set up the "bulk" option.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 07/29/2009
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Why not use gmail for that purpose? They have far better spam filtering. I have three gmail accounts, one completely disposable for one-time emails, one anonymous for companies that I don't trust to keep my email private, and one that identifies me. I pick which one to use based on trust level.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 07/29/2009

I've used MyYahoo as my default home page because I haven't found any better options. I'm not a big fan of iGoogle either, though I do love their search.

Are there any other homepage options out there that is customizable and looks halfway decent?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 07/29/2009
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If Bing is any indication of what this new offering will be like they can keep it. Google may be dirty but no one is as dirty as Microsoft.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 07/29/2009
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One would be hard pressed to find a company less relevant today than Yahoo (except perhaps AOL). This is a marriage of two companies that have long ago forgotten how to innovate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 07/29/2009
- robotfog I'm a Fan of robotfog 23 fans permalink
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"The Redmond, Wash.-based software maker believes Bing is just as good, if not better, than Google's search engine."

boy are they wrong! I was on microsoft's site. microsoft.com, not MSN. I used Bing to search for "Access" "Runtime" and some other word that I don't remember but it was specific to Microsoft Access, and the search went off their own site and coughed up thousands of unrelated topics. It didn't know I was referring to a microsoft product or the runtime download.

I tried Bing again in the public arena but it still isn't that good. Maybe it will take time for it to 'learn'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 07/29/2009
- LolaB I'm a Fan of LolaB 7 fans permalink

Tried out Bing for the first time this past weekend. I think the search results were much better than Goggle. Got to useful sites quicker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 07/29/2009

Just ran a search on Bing but it's so blah. The results in Google are much more dynamic and specific, plus you have ready access to Google Maps and you just can't compete with that. MS Virtual Earth is really sucky, even worse than MapQuest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 07/29/2009
- Brianfox I'm a Fan of Brianfox 6 fans permalink

In both quality, quantity and artificial intelligence (AI) of the Search Engines, Google is still superior to Bing - Take for example - a search with the words - "Birthier Conspiracy", Notice that I spelt "Birthier", not "Birther".

Google returned http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Birthier+Conspiracy&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

and

Bing returned http://www.bing.com/search?q=Birthier+Conspiracy&go=&form=QBRE&qs=n.

Here are the facts:

Quantity: Google 9 entries, Bing 4 entries

Quality: This is where Google hammered Bing. The Birther Conspiracy is a hot topic - very hot that there is a pending legislation in the house as I post this entry, yet Bing only returned 4 sketchy entries. Although all 4 entries are on topic, each of the articles did not give a seasoned detail on the topic. On the other hand, Google, was great on substance and topic. The very first entry returned by Google was the most recent I could find on the subject, and it was quite an informative piece.

AI: Bing swallowed my wrong spellings hook, line and sinking, and returned none informative details. On the other hand, Google while returning 9 entries, still suggested a possible correction to my query by asking: "Did you mean: Birther Conspiracy". Clicking on the "Birther Conspiracy" link returned 4,620,000 entries on the subject with the most recent articles on the first page - Woohoo....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 07/29/2009
- robotfog I'm a Fan of robotfog 23 fans permalink
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you'd think they'd adjust Bing to check wikipedia first and then go on to other sources. I'm not saying we should rely on wikipedia, but it is a good source of info that often has links to other sources.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 07/29/2009
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And Google is already listing this post as its #1 result. Very fast indexing of content, and highly relevant. Bing hasn't found it yet.

(I give Bing high marks for it's "birds' eye view" in maps, but that's about it.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 07/29/2009
- Brianfox I'm a Fan of Brianfox 6 fans permalink

:-) You crack me up... Any links???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 07/29/2009
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