Blue Dogs Delay, Water Down House Health Care Bill

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First Posted: 07-29-09 02:29 PM   |   Updated: 08-29-09 05:12 AM

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Conservative Blue Dog Democrats on the House Energy and Commerce Committee are celebrating their success in delaying a full floor vote on health care legislation past the August recess and in slightly weakening two key provisions during their negotiations with committee Chairman Henry Waxman.

"We have successfully pushed a floor vote to September," Mike Ross (D-Ark.) told reporters Wednesday afternoon. "The American people want us to slow down, and that's what we're doing here."

The Blue Dogs wrestled some concessions out of Waxman (D-Calif.), particularly related to a public health care option and employer mandates. The committee's current version of the public option now more closely resembles that of the health committee in the Senate.

For instance, rather than linking the public option to the rates enjoyed by Medicare, the new language would require a separate agreement without Medicare's bargaining power, Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said. Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius would be responsible for negotiating deals with service providers from day one of the public plan's existence, rather than year three. States can also set up co-op insurance plans in addition to the public option, but not in its stead.

"The public option must go out and negotiate with providers, just like private health insurance companies do," Ross said. "It's strictly optional. It won't be mandated on anyone. It will not be based on Medicare rates."

Under the terms of the compromise, close to 86 percent of small businesses -- those with an annual payroll of $500,000 or less -- will be exempt from the mandate to provide employees with health insurance, Ross said, although the Blue Dogs weren't alone in pushing for that change. Those with an annual payroll between $500,000 and $750,000 must provide graduated partial assistance.

"That's as close as you can get to totally removing the mandate without removing it," Ross said. "Quite frankly, once you get up to three-quarter million a year in annual payroll, as a former small business owner myself, most of them are already providing health insurance, and if they're not, they should."

Under the original draft legislation, Ross said, barely one-fifth the number of businesses would have been exempted.

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Provisions preventing discrimination against people with preexisting conditions remain in the bill, as does a ban on rescission, the notorious insurance-company practice of voiding contracts under some pretext when a customer becomes too costly.

The Blue Dog negotiators -- Ross, Bart Gordon (D-Tenn.), Baron Hill (D-Ind.) and Zack Space (D-Ohio) -- account for a majority of the seven swing Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee, and their approval marks a big step toward passing the bill out of committee and onto the floor, where it will be reconciled with the two other health reform bills from the Ways and Means and Education and Labor committees.

Ross said he and the other committee Blue Dogs are determined to keep the cost of the final bill under $1 trillion over 10 years. He stumbled a bit, however, on the question of how many Americans he expects a weaker bill to cover.

"As many as when we went into these -- our objective has always been to make health insurance affordable for as many people as we can in this country," he said, but estimated another 10 steps between the current bill and the one that will reach President Obama's desk. "There's going to be a lot of changes between now and then."

Ross also credited representatives from the Obama administration -- including Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and Office of Health Reform head Nancy Ann DeParle -- with smoothing over negotiations with Waxman. For its part, the White House Press Office responded with a chipper statement released under Obama's name:

I want to thank the members of both the Senate and House of Representatives for continuing their work on health reform to provide more stability and security for Americans who have insurance, and quality, affordable coverage for those who don't. I'm especially grateful that so many members, including some Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee, are working so hard to find common ground. Those efforts are extraordinarily constructive in strengthening this legislation and bringing down its cost.

House leadership likewise praised the committee Blue Dogs. "I think the way they've structured it is a good compromise," Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) said. The offices of Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) released a laudatory statement not far from Obama's:

We are pleased with the full participation of all our Members, who have reviewed the legislation and proposed significant changes. At this time, we want to particularly recognize the valued leadership of the Blue Dog Coalition to lower costs, to make the legislation work better for their constituents, and to assist small businesses. These are goals shared by all Members of the Caucus. At the request of the Blue Dog Coalition, in order to allow more time to carefully review the additional proposed legislative language, we will bring the bill to the House floor in September.

Meanwhile, some rank-and-file House Democrats have been grumbling that the conservative Blue Dogs are driving the debate. Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) said several members of the Energy and Commerce Committee complained during floor votes Wednesday afternoon that they hadn't been kept apprised of the changes to the bill before Waxman and the Blue Dogs reached an agreement.

The 83-member Congressional Progressive Caucus, to which Waxman belongs, has reacted with particular horror to the Blue Dog changes to the public option. Though there are not enough progressives on the Energy and Commerce Committee to overpower the Blue Dogs -- only five, aside from Waxman -- caucus co-chair Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) circulated a petition Wednesday afternoon to collect signatures in protest of the deal.

[UPDATE: Just before it began, Waxman scratched Wednesday night's committee markup of the bill in order to address concerns from progressives, he told reporters. Slated to resume the review process Thursday morning, Waxman still hopes to pass the bill out of committee by the end of the week.]

Still, progressive Democrats said they were optimistic that when it comes time to reconcile the three committee bills, the final product will be significantly more to their liking than the Energy and Commerce version. "At this point, I just want to make certain we have a public option and it's good and strong," Slaughter said.

And with that in mind, Democrats are now casting the bill's delay over August recess as a chance for necessary further negotiation and review.

"A lot of people view this as the end ... the conversations are ongoing," Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.) said. "Is there a Senate bill? You tell me. No? I rest my case. We've got a ways to go."

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- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 298 fans permalink

Senators DeMint and Coburn: The best healthcare system in the world leaves 50 million Americans uninsured to fend for themselves, while generating billions in profit and millions in kickbacks for corrupt republicans. If you’re fortunate to be a member of Congress, you do in fact have unfettered access to the best healthcare. The republican aristocracy always seems to know what’s best for the working-class. Several years ago, the republicans pushed through the Prescription Drug Bill at a cost of $900 billion, which benefited the pharmaceutical industry, not the working-class. To enact this flawed legislation, lobbyists paid-out millions in payoffs to buy republican votes. The exact same strategy is now being employed by parasitic health insurers to defeat healthcare reform. Sell-outs like DeMint and Coburn are getting rich helping the insurance industry generate outrageous profits on the backs of the working-class. In healthcare, the profit is in treatment, not the cure, which is why republicans lobby for ruthless pharmaceutical manufactures and parasitic physicians who regard healthcare as only a revenue stream. Republicans have dehumanized healthcare and transformed it into a commodity akin to oil, steel or corn. Certain things like healthcare should carry the label not-for profit. Republicans have always supported big business, and they have fought hard to pass abusive and exploitive legislation designed to keep the working-class subservient and subjugated. The republican concocted Iraq War created new millionaires, which self-serving republicans welcome because such profit translates into huge payoffs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 07/31/2009
- Rosey I'm a Fan of Rosey 6 fans permalink

Blue Dog Democrats ARE Republicans and should be voted out of office. They are a disgrace to mankind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 07/31/2009
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Bravo Bronxdude, It is a sad realization that the congress "of the people" is bought and paid for by the health care and pharmaceutical lobbyists. We are thrown an occasional bone to emphasize the dedication to the people by our highly respected elected representatives and law makers.

Try to watch/listen to tonight' s repeat episode of Bill Moyer's Journal on PBS. Guest is former high ranking xo of the company whom has seen fit to tell it like it is--tough to listen to albeit the truth. My hat is off to the gentleman. He, on an earlier guest interview, forecast exactly what is taking place now in our congress- highly financed lobbyists, journal and press releases by republican and Blue Dog Dems aimed at instilling fear and loathing of government oriented programs and the ultimate roll over of our so-called trusted house majority in effort to save face (or perhaps to achieve a preconceived goal in disguise!!). After watching this interview, there should be no question of the past and future goals of the "for profit" health care givers. It is time we wised up and stopped the ongoing abuse to our potential ownership of decent health care led by legislation by an out of touch congress that doesn't have a clue to the way the majority of Americans exist. Make your voice heard, call, email your representatives and senators, publish on the internet and most importantly, protest openly against the for -profits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 07/31/2009
- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 298 fans permalink

The average American refuses to accept that the Republican Nation is at war with the working-class, which is why republicans support the status quo and vehemently oppose single-payor healthcare, public education, government oversight, minimum wage hikes, worker rights, access to higher education, middleclass tax relief, and, in general, any legislation that would jeopardize the continuation of a credit-dependent, employer exploited, unhealthy, downtrodden, underpaid, debt-laden, undereducated and permanent class of laborers. Similar to exploited sharecroppers, it’s in the best interest of republicans to keep the working-class hopeless, oppressed, unhealthy, undereducated and debt-laden. Republicans staunchly supported the bailout of Wall Street to protect their own assets, but opposed the bailout out the automobile industry, which employs thousands of middleclass Americans. The republican aristocracy opposes any kind of governmental oversight that will interfere with their pursuit of exploitive capitalism; republicans would like to abolish the Departments of Agriculture, Transportation, Interior, Education and The Food and Drug Administration, because these agencies advocate for workers. Just like feudal lords, the Republican Nation requires a formidable army to protect their financial interests, which is why republicans defend unrestrained military spending. According to the CBO, the Iraq War will cost $2.6 trillion over 10 years; health insurance for every American would cost $1.2 trillion over the same period. Republicans want to keep America angrily divided by class and race. Universal health insurance provides hope and would elevate the standard of living for every American, something republicans don’t want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 07/31/2009
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Excellent post, Bronxdude! Could I copy your words on to a sodahead blog where all the rednecks get their feed? Or maybe you can do it yourself. Log into :Sodahead.com and post your blog...they need to read this , excellent commentary­!!!!...but they probably won't even understand it all or believe it, but its worth trying!

We want a single payer healthcare like in France! No less! If the repugs want to keep their insurance they should have to give up their public healthcare they now enjoy, and try to get into the insurance market themselves and pay for it, if they get accepted.!!! That will put them where their mouth is!
Please, let's really do this!

Next election lets make sure we dump all those blue dogs and replace them with true democrats that work for the people and not the insurance companies and corporations!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 07/31/2009
- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 298 fans permalink

Because of payoffs and kickbacks, sleazy republican whores will never abandon their health insurance pimps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 07/31/2009
- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 298 fans permalink

The new Hippocratic symbol: $
New Hippocratic Oath: screw the patient; make money

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 07/31/2009
- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 298 fans permalink

Forget bipartisanship; true reform will provide affordable options that include a public offering. As it stands right now, UnitedHealthcare can deny medical care, restrict physician choice and authorize exorbitant copays and deductibles with no oversight. Real reform will end the monopolistic strangle-hold enjoyed by ruthless and morally bankrupt insurers like UnitedHealthcare. In Georgia, UnitedHealthcare colluded with corrupt republican officials to eliminate competition, with the end result being higher premiums, reduced benefits, and greater profits for UnitedHealthcare. With no real competition, UnitedHealthCare is free to bilk and rob consumers. When compared to the second quarter of 2008, profits for UnitedHealthcare increased by a whopping 155 percent, yet premiums continue to climb 3 times faster than wages. UnitedHealthcare is leading the charge to defeat healthcare reform by paying out millions in hush money to corrupt, lying, and obstructionistic republicans. The health insurance industry (and the corrupt republicans they bankroll) will not retreat quietly from billions in annual profits. Repelling the Bush tax cuts for the top 2 percent and ending the Iraq War would generate $1.8 trillion in revenue, more than enough to pay for universal healthcare over the next ten years. In comparison, the Iraq War will cost $2.4 trillion over the next ten years. I want the same affordable health insurance options enjoyed by Congress. Real choice will end the single profiteer, monopolistic health insurance system currently bilking and extorting Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 07/31/2009
- Clayton139 I'm a Fan of Clayton139 25 fans permalink
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THE SECURITY YOU GET from health insurance reform:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/health-insurance-consumer-protections/?e=9&ref=text2

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 07/30/2009

Let us face it, the Democrats don't have the Republicans' balls. If the Republicans had anything like the Democrats have now (The Presidency and the two Chambers), they would pass through anything they wanted and wouldn't care if it was bi-partisan or not. And of course the Democrats just to prove they were alive would sign on to anything, as indeed they did with the war and tax cuts. I am very disillusioned and very disappointed with the Democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 07/30/2009

I agree I am sick of bi-partisan blah,blah. But it is the yellow dog dems that just make me sick. Who are they kidding,they are as corrupt as the as the repubs. If the get with the program the DNC should find someone to run against them and do a Lieberman on them ;no money, no endorsements,no nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 07/30/2009
- cavegal I'm a Fan of cavegal 181 fans permalink
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After years of observing both parties, I have to agree with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 07/31/2009
- expired I'm a Fan of expired 22 fans permalink

The Blue Dog Coalition

Contact these members of Congress and urge them to support the public plan option! These are the Democrats holding us back from the best health care plan possible.
Key people to contact - view the entire list of the 56 Blue Dog Democrats here!

Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Administration
Rep. Baron Hill (IN-09), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy
Rep. Charlie Melancon (LA-03), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Communications
Rep. Heath Shuler (NC-11), Blue Dog Whip
Rep. Mike Ross (AR-04)

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The List of Democratic Senators not directly supporting the public plan health care option
Call and email them, telling them to support President Obama's public plan option!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/30/2009

I am happy to see the Democrats acting strategically. These Congressmen represent rural districts they have to oppose mandates that will impact small business owners. This was an inspired fundraisin­g/credi-cl­aiming move that upped their profile and sent the message to their districts that they deserve to come back after the mid-terms next year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 07/30/2009

I think the important point, that I seem to deduce here, is the US system is dysfunctual and needs to change. It cannot continue to exclude millions of citizens while the insurance company can drop you if they feel like it, grossly over-charge for their services and have insurance company executives living a life of high wealth! It should be a basic right for every citizen to have health care. If our elected officials cared about our citizens then they would want everyone to be covered. There is obviously "something rotten in the state of Denmark" when a sick child can't be treated! I grew up in Canada and there is nothing wrong with their care and everybody gets treatment. Canada has "socialized" medicine but they are not socialists! There's a big difference between the two! It was nice to know that the government cared enough about their citizens to have health care for everyone! At least if you or someone in your family needed an operation you would not go bankrupt and lose your home. That actually would probably cost the government more money!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 07/30/2009

The Health Care bill is not in the best interest of Americans. Canadians are telling us what a nightmare government run healthcare is. Britian, Scandinavia, and other european countries are telling us not to make this big mistake. You want to wait for months or years for treatment? Do you really want to have rationed health care?
www.stop-obama.info

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 07/30/2009

absolute nonsense.

First, none of these bills proposes a system like Canada's, Great Britain's or Scandinavia-- or indeed, any other European country.

Second, to who, or to what are you listening? In every Country and region you mentioned every party, and most of the population support their health care system. Indeed, in Great Britain, the political fight is generally over who supports their health care system the most. Do some basic research and stop listen to nonsensical tripe that has no bearing on what we are doing here anyway.

You also need to understand what other countries actually do with health care--- and then you will discover that what is being proposed here (in every single bill) is a uniquely American solution.

Check this out and see.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/countries/

Also note that we spend 6 times more than any other Country and yet, are only 37th in the world in health care results (behind Costa Rica for goodness sake!) The United States of America can, and must, do better than that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 07/30/2009

I'm a Canadian, and you couldn't pay me enough to give up "government run" healthcare. Our system is not a nightmare. I just had surgery myself and it was done promptly and professionally.

Furthermore, as a healthcare provider myself (neuropsyc­hologist), I can tell you for a fact that the government DOES NOT dictate how I treat my patients, nor do they do so for MDs.

I DO know a system where care is dictated by someone other than the provider - that's the current US system. YOU have systems in which people with BA's in accountancy (if that) tell MDs and PhDs who they can treat, for how long, and with what treatments. I follow some medical usergroups that are based primarily in the states and their stories of trying to get things approved and paid for are nightmares. Here in Canada, you show up at my office, I do what I think I need to with you, you leave. Done.

Face it - the whole "big brother in medical care" thing is a US reality, not a Canadian one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 07/30/2009
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The American people don't want you to slow down. They want you to get it done in a meaningful way that does not sell out to the status quo. The GOP you are trying to appease want to kill it. You've bought them more time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 07/30/2009
- alwqb I'm a Fan of alwqb 18 fans permalink
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You can't give this problem to the States! What State doesn't have serious problems. BOO on all the bought and paid for elected officials who don't care about the American People.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 07/30/2009
- BodyShotz I'm a Fan of BodyShotz 134 fans permalink
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It's obvious these people are only interested in protecting Blue Cross and that ilk. Money is their master and they enjoy being whipped like sl@ves. It's criminal. They're merely shills for tyrannical industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 07/30/2009
- Wake-up I'm a Fan of Wake-up 47 fans permalink
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"Yea... there all evil and we here in Huff-post land area all may more smart and always do and know what's best..."

Man... just stop with this... People / companies need to make a profit and have the right to make as much profit as possible. Don't like Blue Cross? Then don't buy it...

To think the Gov. in any-way can do better is just laughable and wrong... you're buying into the Barac sales job... he 'feels good' I get it, but he's lying. He cut deals with the AARP and a ton of other groups, he's just a typical politician...

We need Trot Reform now and only - first. Then see how that effects the industry.

Why would we take on the largest entitlement program in history to cove the 5% that truly need help? That's crazy...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 07/30/2009

"We need Trot Reform..."

What the heck is Trot Reform?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 08/01/2009

This compromise is not as bad as you think. Please re-read the article. There will still be a public option-- and a strong one at that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 07/30/2009
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Why in the world does he think Americans want them to slow down - and make it weaker? We want the best ASAP - and these guys are in the way!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 07/30/2009
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