Progressive House Democrats Balk At Health Care Compromise

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First Posted: 07-30-09 08:28 AM   |   Updated: 08-30-09 05:12 AM

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WASHINGTON — Congressional Democrats are determined to show progress on health care overhaul by pushing President Barack Obama's top domestic priority through two critically important committees before they head home for their August break.

Wednesday in the House, Democratic leaders gave in -- at least temporarily -- to numerous demands from rank-and-file rebels from the conservative wing of the party. The so-called Blue Dog Democrats had been blocking the bill's passage in Energy and Commerce.

The House changes, which drew immediate opposition from liberal lawmakers, would steer away from using Medicare as the blueprint for a proposed government insurance option, reduce federal subsidies to help lower-income families afford coverage, and exempt additional businesses from a requirement to offer health insurance to their workers.

The House deal was worked out over hours of talks that involved not only Democratic leaders but also White House officials eager to advance the bill. Senior congressional aides cast it as a temporary accommodation, saying leaders had not committed to support it once the bill advances to the floor of the House in the fall.

As word of the agreement spread, liberals fired back. "We do not support this," said Rep. Lynn Woolsey, (D-Calif.), co-chair of the Progressive Caucus. "I think they have no idea how many people are against this. They can't possibly be taking us seriously if they're going to bring this forward." At a press conference, she said, "[W]e might have to come back and start over."

Plans to convene the Energy and Commerce Committee for a vote slipped until Thursday as leaders sought to allay concerns of liberals.

"Waxman made a deal that is unacceptable," Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) told Politico, after meeting with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) on Wednesday.

"We signed a pledge to reject any plan that doesn't include a robust public option, and this plan doesn't have a robust public option," he added.

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"We just need to get everybody on board," said Rep. Frank Pallone, D-N.J., who chairs the panel's subcommittee on health.

In the Senate, the pace of negotiations appears to have accelerated in recent days, with lawmakers all but settling on a tax on high-cost insurance plans to help pay for the bill, as well as a new mechanism designed to curtail the growth of Medicare over the next 10 years and beyond.

More problematic from the point of view of most Democrats is a tentative agreement to omit a provision in which the government would sell insurance in competition with private industry. In its place, the group is expected to recommend nonprofit cooperatives that could operate at the state, regional or even national level.

Nor is any bipartisan recommendation likely to include a requirement for large businesses to offer insurance to their workers. Instead, they would have a choice between offering coverage or paying a portion of any government subsidy that noninsured employees would receive.

Like the House bill, the bipartisan proposal under discussion would expand eligibility for Medicaid to 133 percent of the federal poverty level.

It provides for federal subsidies for individuals and families up to 300 percent of poverty, less than the 400 percent in the House measure.

Even if the negotiations succeed before the Senate's vacation, which starts next week, it isn't clear when the Finance Committee would vote.

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Associated Press writers Liz Sidoti, Alan Fram and David Espo contributed to this report.

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WASHINGTON — Congressional Democrats are determined to show progress on health care overhaul by pushing President Barack Obama's top domestic priority through two critically important committees...
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- Wiseup2Day I'm a Fan of Wiseup2Day 7 fans permalink

Communists were called Progressives in the 30's and 40's. and you can go to Rasmussen polls to see the healthcare numbers..Obama Progressive movement...now wants the names of those who oppose healthcare reform..it's on the WH website..ACORN a taxpayer DEm funded group has been bused everywhere to support dem policies..ironic that they are trying to make people believe that people in walkers and baby boomers are being bused in..when they complain they are a mob...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 08/09/2009

Still scrubbing my posts ? Why ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 08/04/2009

Mine, too. Makes you want to stop posting at all. I posted a date and place for a prez/health care meeting, and it didn't even make it. What's up? Wonder if this will even make it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 08/06/2009

OK EVERYONE!!!

Please take the month of August to contact your senators and congressmen.

Let them know how you feel. Send them postcards and letters. The general rule is that for every real letter they receive they believe 100 more believe like you do. Do this to do your part as a citizen. They do listen. They do want to be reelected.

The only power that can fight big money interests (ex. insurance companies)is the power of the vote. Every one counts. So "vote" for health reform this month!

This is the time!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 08/03/2009

Congress doesn't need to take a vacation! Try to take off from your job when there is some important project behind schedule and see what happens. BS! They can stay in Washington and do the work we sent them there to do. If they need input from us--and they do--they can read the emails or their home town staff can advise them what the pulse of the public is doing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 08/03/2009
- cripes I'm a Fan of cripes 3 fans permalink

call for a vote ,,make them put up or shut up...the election results will definitely be effected by their vote,,,the next round there will be more democrats to deal with,,,their party will evaporate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 08/02/2009
- JustBNice I'm a Fan of JustBNice 31 fans permalink
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Obama and the Democrats seem to be standing in the way of real reform. This is looking too much like
a plan the health insurance industry will like. I think Nancy Pelosi is talking tough but it's just a smoke screen.

Check out all the unions that support Single Payer.

http://unionsforsinglepayer.org/union_endorsers

WE NEED SINGLE PAYER.

Anything less is just more of the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 08/02/2009
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 64 fans permalink

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Reply to JustBNice's comment posted 08:41 PM on 08/02/2009

Support for single-payer plan includes the PNHP (Physicians for a National Health Program, with over 16,000 members),
http://www.pnhp.org/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pnhp&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

and the CNA (California Nurses Association, with 80,000 members across 50 states) Since 2000, over 19,000 RN's at 50 hospitals have elected to affiliate with CNA.
http://www.calnurses.org/about-us/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=california+nurses+association&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10

So, the medical profession understands Single-Payer plan, and actively supports it in substantial numbers. They are at the cutting edge of progress in healthcare. Congress is behind the curve.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 08/02/2009
- Raster I'm a Fan of Raster 22 fans permalink

Too many members of Congress are in the pocket of the Health Insurance industry. That is the whole problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 08/03/2009
- dansup I'm a Fan of dansup 5 fans permalink

I haven't received a raise in my check for 2 1/2 years, because negotiated increases have been going to fund my unions healthcare plan, with it's ever increasing costs. So what if I have to pay a little more in taxes for a public option, I will be better off for it, and so will my fellow citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 08/02/2009

Many thanks to the Progressive Democrats who have stood their ground on this issue in spite of the many lies that have infiltrated the discussion of health care.

Anyone in the USA who needs medical care needs to be able to get it in a timely manner, before the health problem becomes life threatening.

This is an issue of developing a stronger health care infrastructure. We will be a stronger country if we value our fellow human beings. The people are the strength of the nation, not how many dollars there are and how much the dollar is worth today. It will be our fellow human beings who provide the human effort required to make the new, stronger health care work out for all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 08/02/2009
- tinman1967 I'm a Fan of tinman1967 2 fans permalink

The Progressive movement in the US in this day and age is just a group of wackos. Who needs em to pass a modest health care reform bill? The Progressives tried to ramrod this thing through and they failed.
Yippee!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 08/02/2009
- juskidding I'm a Fan of juskidding 6 fans permalink

Have no fear, progressive dems!

we the people got you covered!

rahm, your days are MARKED.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 08/02/2009
- marika I'm a Fan of marika 14 fans permalink

It looks as though Rahm Emanuel is dancing out the door with change. But, change is so yesterday and the word of the day is to look forward...to what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 08/02/2009
- hauty007 I'm a Fan of hauty007 3 fans permalink

UNPRECEDENTED
just for that.. I am making my first contribution to SARAHPAC.
sending the receipt to the DNC, using their pre-paid envelop!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 AM on 08/02/2009
- shespeaks I'm a Fan of shespeaks 35 fans permalink
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Wow. I'm sure they'll open that up immediately and run right out and do....what? Unprecedented is what we need.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 08/02/2009
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 126 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 AM on 08/02/2009
- cavegal I'm a Fan of cavegal 183 fans permalink
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Thanks for the great posts Artemis34 and for keeping Dr. Dean front and center. I just do not understand how people can be opposed to Universal Healthcare coverage. When will we enter the 21st century and be able to compete on a level playing field with other western multinational corporations?!

For me this has become a matter of the US having a complete lack of class. It is preposterous to me that we can call ourselves a Christian nation yet deny the basics of healthcare to our population. It is just plain uncivilized.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 08/02/2009

as a nurse i can tell you that everyday i question the integrity and morality of our country when i seen the pain the sickness the grief that our lack of morality not insurance causes our patients. i'm a fan!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 08/02/2009
- dansup I'm a Fan of dansup 5 fans permalink

so true - all these christian conservatives living fear of the dreaded word socialism need to ask themselves, what would Jeusu do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 08/02/2009
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 126 fans permalink
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For all the conservatives worried about they may have to pay for someone else.

1) That is what insurance does. All insurance spreads the costs and the risks from one individual to a group.

If you have fire insurance, even if you have a brick house you are sharing the risk of people who have wood houses too.

2) Your idol, famed economist Milton Friedman said "there is no such thing as a free lunch." And it is true in health care too.

The insured pay for the uninsured in health price inflation NOW. When everyone is insured this cost driver goes away.

3) Private health care costs are keepign wages flat. If an employer's health care costs go up, they have less money available for wages.

This is another way you are paying for health care for all now.

4) You cannot generate wealth on your own. You need workers and consumers to do that. And the poor are some of the best consumers out there. They spend all their money!

Don't believe me? Go to a desert island cut off from all humanity and try to generate wealth by yourself. Even if you get gold, it will be worthless if you are alone.

5) Many of you claim to be Christian but exhibit a lack of compassion for your fellow citizens.

Jesus commanded us not only to heal the sick but also to pay our taxes (render unto Caesar ....).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 AM on 08/02/2009
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 126 fans permalink
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For all those who are talking about the money. The US is spending MORE than any other country in the world NOW.

The US is spending $3,000 per person per year more than would be needed with Universal Single Payer.

That is $3,000 savings * $310 Million inhabitants = $930 Billion

That is ONE TRILLION DOLLARS in the first 13 months!

So, if you are worried about money, you should be advocating universal single payer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 AM on 08/02/2009
- shespeaks I'm a Fan of shespeaks 35 fans permalink
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Thank you for being so well informed. And for sharing it with those who aren't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 08/02/2009

Reform needs TEETH; that means fixing Medicare (MedPAC); insuring that doctors are paid for quality of care and not quantity; assuring that all doctors accept Medicare patients, and assuring that patients can refuse certain tests and opt for others. In my case it took three months and thousands of dollars in tests only to find thru a doctor's hand exam what the problem was. Fact: A catscan is equal to about three years of radiation from the sun; if patients knew this they might opt for an ultrasound instead.
TEETH TEETH TEETH...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 08/01/2009
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