Health Care Deal Reached In House: Waxman

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DAVID ESPO and ERICA WERNER | 07/31/09 10:49 PM | AP

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Attendees to the House Energy and Commerce Committee markup on H.R. 3200, America Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, watch on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, July 30, 2009. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

WASHINGTON — In a triumph for President Barack Obama, Democrats narrowly pushed sweeping health care legislation through a key congressional committee Friday night and cleared the way for a September showdown in the House.

The 31-28 vote in the House Energy and Commerce Committee, along party lines, was weeks later than either the White House or Democratic leaders had hoped.

As part of a last-minute series of changes, the committee agreed to cap increases in the cost of insurance sold under the bill, and also to give the federal government authority to negotiate directly with drug companies for lower prices under Medicare.

The new provisions were part of an intensive effort Democrats made in recent days to satisfy the conflicting demands of liberals and conservatives on the panel, unity necessary to overcome a solid wall of Republican opposition.

"We have agreed we need to pull together," said Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., the committee chairman who presided over hours of private negotiations and public committee meetings. Five Democrats opposed the bill.

The measure is designed to extend health insurance to millions who now lack it, at the same time it strives to slow the growth in medical costs nationwide – Obama's twin goals.

While the pace of action was slower than party leaders had hoped, it was speedier by far than the timetable in the Senate.

There, Democrats said a deadline of Sept. 15 had been imposed on marathon talks aimed at producing a bipartisan compromise. Several officials said Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., had informed fellow senators he intends to convene his Finance Committee to begin voting by then.

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Without a bipartisan bill, Baucus would presumably have to produce a measure tailored to Democratic specifications, a step he has said repeatedly he would rather avoid. It wasn't clear how much the deadline was Baucus' idea, and how much it reflected growing impatience at the White House and on the part of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

The Energy and Commerce Committee was the third of three House panels to act on the legislation, a measure that numerous lawmakers note would rearrange one-sixth of the nation's economy. A vote in the full House is expected in September, after lawmakers return from a monthlong vacation.

In the run-up to final approval, the panel handed the drug industry a victory, voting 47-11 to grant 12 years of market protection to high-tech drugs used to combat cancer, Parkinson's and other deadly diseases. The decision was a setback for the White House, which had hoped to give patients faster access to generic versions of costly biotech medicines like the blockbuster cancer drug Avastin.

Democrats also turned back a Republican bid to strip out a provision allowing the government to sell insurance in competition with private industry. The vote was 31-28, reflecting the shaky majority Democrats had on a 59-member committee they nominally controlled with 36 members.

The Democrats who opposed the final bill were Reps. John Barrow of Georgia; Rick Boucher of Virginia; Jim Matheson of Utah; Charlie Melancon of Louisiana and Bart Stupak of Michigan.

Under the bill, insurance companies would be required to sell coverage to all seeking it, without exclusions for pre-existing medical conditions. The federal government would provide subsidies for lower-income families to help them afford policies that would otherwise be out of their reach.

The bills would set up so-called exchanges, in effect national marketplaces where consumers both with and without subsidies could evaluate different policies and choose the one they wanted.

The main expansion of coverage would not come until 2013 – after the next presidential election.

Even so, the political stakes are enormous for Obama and the Democrats as they strive to pass legislation that has proven elusive for years. Republicans are overwhelmingly opposed to the approach they chose, and outside groups on both sides of the issue arranged a heavy dose of television advertising over August.

"Let me assure you: There will be a health care reform bill passed and it will make a big difference in the lives of the American people," Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said in an interview.

But the House Republican Leader, John Boehner of Ohio, countered that "Democrats are in for a long, hot summer once they return to their congressional districts, where Americans are lining up in opposition to a government takeover of health care. "

On a vote that crossed party lines, abortion opponents failed in an attempt to bar insurance plans that offer abortion services from accepting customers with government subsidies. The vote was 31-27.

On Thursday night, the panel agreed on a provision saying the government could neither require nor prohibit abortion services in insurance plans sold in the exchange.

Waxman's announcement of a series of last-minute changes capped a tumultuous period that began more than two weeks ago when conservative and moderate Democrats on the panel sought changes.

Needing their votes, Waxman began negotiations that grew to include Pelosi and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. An agreement at midweek excluded more businesses from a requirement to offer insurance to their workers and reduced subsidies for lower-income uninsured.

It also swiftly triggered a counter-revolt among liberals, who demanded the subsidies be restored in full.

The final deal accommodated them without sacrificing the concessions made earlier to the conservatives, and included numerous other provisions.

Insurance plans sold in the exchange would need government approval before increasing premiums by more than one and half times medical inflation. The Bureau of Labor Statistics calculated that medical prices rose at an annual rate of 3.6 percent annually for the three months ending in June.

The provision giving the federal government the right to negotiate for better drug prices under Medicare has long been a goal of Democrats who say it could lower costs for seniors. Critics argue that is unlikely unless Congress also limits the drugs than can be sold, thereby giving the government the ability to play one company off against another.

That has long been viewed as politically unfeasible under Medicare, because it would limit the choice that seniors now enjoy.

But including restrictions in the government health insurance option would place it in line with Medicaid, the government program for the poor, as well as the Department of Veterans Affairs and many private plans that limit drug choice.

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Associated Press writer Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar contributed to this report.

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- aboveparr I'm a Fan of aboveparr 4 fans permalink
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Any bill that subsidies premiums for big insurance companies is a hoax and a scam. No one will want to support a public option if they can get the government to subsidize their premiums. Not to mention how fast it will explode the deficit. Check out The5Dollar­Revolution­.com. It competes head to head with insurance companies and raises 140 billion for reform without raising taxes or adding to the deficit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 08/01/2009
- PaxEterna I'm a Fan of PaxEterna 65 fans permalink

Yes, note the word "deal."

I don't think that is the same as "reform."

Oh, I forgot, we're talking insurance, not health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 08/01/2009
- olmossy I'm a Fan of olmossy 17 fans permalink

Sounds like our worst fears are comming true. No Public Option. Just Insurance premiums paid for by the taxpayers. Thats US folks.

So instead of HealthCare reform , we get Insurance Reform . ( Insurance Free Ride )

The best Government MONEY can BUY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 08/02/2009
- Tiggy I'm a Fan of Tiggy 24 fans permalink

When Congress addresses the following I will be assured they are doing their job with preventative care. Recently I purchased a package of Oven Roasted Turkey. The label reads 100% natural No preservatives. Sounds great for kids and diabetics right? A read of the ingredients show the following: Turkey Breast Meat, Water, Salt, Turbinado Sugar, Carrageenan (from Seaweed)....and so on. And we wonder why we face obesity in this country. Sugar is added to almost everything including peanut butter and bread. Yes, we need more exercise as a country, but we also need less sugars added to foods. Congress can see that Insurance companies cover the cost of a fitness membership to reduce diabetes and heart problems. No turkey that I am aware of comes with sugar added "naturally" nor have I ever seen Turkeys on the beach searching for seaweed. And when labels say "no sugar added" when if fact there are 1-3 other sweeteners that is deceptive. Our manufactures should be more open and honest about the "fine print" because the health of many rely upon it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 08/01/2009

Why is congress allowed to take money from corporations? Seems like a conflict of interests, doesn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 08/01/2009
- PaxEterna I'm a Fan of PaxEterna 65 fans permalink

Instead of McSame, we have-O-same.

No difference, just more money to the lobbyists and the people get screwed.

They want the average American to pay 10%+ of his/her income (is that net or gross?) while Congress gets theirs free. On paper, it's no more than 5.5%, and they ,make way more than the average American, $174,000 to be exact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 08/01/2009
- StillweRise I'm a Fan of StillweRise 121 fans permalink
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please explain what steps the current steps the should have taken in the last six monts to adress this...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 08/01/2009
- StillweRise I'm a Fan of StillweRise 121 fans permalink
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please explain what steps the current president should have taken to address this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 08/01/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 AM on 08/01/2009

Watered down delayed public option, no single payer, the great man of change is not going to see the support he saw in 2008.

The democrats are in for a rude awakening in 2010 and 2012.

I expect some independent populist thinking will start getting traction when this healthcare sell out gets signed by promise and not deliver Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 07/31/2009

Common sense and cooler heads will prevail.

The problem is how to pay for it, who will run it, who will decide your health care and what health care you get.

I personally hope this goes down in flames and they start fresh with a program that does not included the government run health care.

Look how well the government has done with SS, taxes, education and on and on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 07/31/2009
- Dbos I'm a Fan of Dbos 26 fans permalink

Given what they have to work with they have done quite well. Its unfettered Capitalism that hasnt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 08/01/2009
- olmossy I'm a Fan of olmossy 17 fans permalink

How to reduce Health care cost that we pay today in the USA by 25%.

Hmm? Lets see now . Insurance Company administered Healthcare cost us 30+cents on every dollar spent on healthcare. Gov. administered Healhcare cost about 4cents on the dollar.

Hmmm? and Insurance Companys add what to healthcare ? Nothing ?

Help me out here folks . Is this really a hard question ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 08/02/2009

The bill that was passed is ghastly. However, Rep Weiner of New York introduced an amendment to replace the HR 3200 bill with HR676 for single payer. The committee did not vote on it but Pelosi said that it could be introduced to the full house and debated and voted on when the house reconvenes. That is a breakthrough for single payer---finally "ON the TABLE" in a way it hasn't been. Interesting that all of that is not even mentioned in the article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 AM on 08/01/2009
- StillweRise I'm a Fan of StillweRise 121 fans permalink
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so...are you for true healthcare reform, or was it just an opportunity to see if you could turn some people agains the guy who actually is 'trying' to do something.

my guess is the latter.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 08/01/2009
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Deal reached except a deal hasn't been reached.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 07/31/2009
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This is good news, but I don't understand why it goes into effect in 2013 instead of right now. It only takes them a few weeks to declare war, invade Iraq, bail out greedy bankers, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 07/31/2009

War is more important than health care. Just look at the difference in the amount of money spent on each. Sickening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 08/01/2009
- olmossy I'm a Fan of olmossy 17 fans permalink

The Wealthy Oligarchy that runs this country don't make any money on HealhCare reform. They get rich on War, Bail Outs, Destroying the middle class. It's not hard to figure out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 08/02/2009
- wordvarc I'm a Fan of wordvarc 31 fans permalink

No public option = no reform.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 07/31/2009
- Dbos I'm a Fan of Dbos 26 fans permalink

Correct

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 08/01/2009
- olmossy I'm a Fan of olmossy 17 fans permalink

No public Option=No reform=No Democratic Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 08/02/2009

Where is the President of the United States?! Where is the person who can tell these health care reform obstructionists to take a flying leap? With a majority in both houses of Congress, why are we relying on Max Traitor Baucus, who represents about 1 percent of the country, and 100 percent of the insurance carriers? Where is the power of the president when it comes to a national emergency? Why isn't this health care reform decided already? With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Obama can do what is best for the nation and its people by declaring a national health care emergency and mandating that everyone is covered by Medicare. Why do people continue to lose homes and jobs because they can no longer afford to pay for medical bills? Single payer would put an end, also, to all of this garbage about "how can we pay for this?" Repeal the tax breaks for the rich, and eliminate murderous tactics by health care insurers. What the f(&*k is going on here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 07/31/2009
- Sweetbay I'm a Fan of Sweetbay 138 fans permalink
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BrendanOMaidian
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"What the f(&*k is going on here?"


Well, Brendan, in case you haven't heard, it is the legislative body of government that makes legislation. You see, if President Obama did what you want him to do, that would make him a dictator, not a democratically elected President.

President Obama is doing what he can do and that is to convince Americans that THEY need to fight for true reform by calling their representative and telling them how best to represent you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 07/31/2009
- lydiajean I'm a Fan of lydiajean 5 fans permalink

Very good questions. Do you think it may have something to do with his level of experience in managing any type of situation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 07/31/2009
- Sweetbay I'm a Fan of Sweetbay 138 fans permalink
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You mean like the Wasilla Wordsmith?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 07/31/2009

just a side note for those complaining about how bad a job obama mis doing on the health care thing----

if mccain had won there would be no such discussion ===only war appropriation bills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 07/31/2009

We are increasing troops in Afghanistan as we speak. War appropriations are still the focus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 08/01/2009
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yep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 08/01/2009

Where is the moral justification for voters electing politicians that will funnel money to people that want something for nothing? What gives you the right to demand that I am taxed, to supply you with something that you think is “OWED” to you? I do not OWE you health care, in fact you are owed nothing. Are you not capable of lifting yourself up and bettering your quality of life.
If you have been listening to the government telling you that they the elected politicians understand that you are not capable, and cannot better yourself without the government talking others hard earn dollars, then you truly are pathetic.
Wake up people, no one owes anything, you owe others the drive to not be a burden or weight just waiting for tax money to pull you along.

Vote democrat, it is easier than working!
The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 07/31/2009
- graceland9 I'm a Fan of graceland9 196 fans permalink
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All of this was said about Medicare when it was first proposed. Hey, call your members of Congress and get that repealed! I mean, why should a bunch of old, sick, tired, retired people get health care? And how about those veterans? Do we OWE them anything?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 07/31/2009

ah yes gracie, if you will stop and take a breath you'll remember that Medicare and Vets are already taken care of by Uncle Sugar. And not well managed by the way, why would you expect anything different with Obamacare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 07/31/2009
- graceland9 I'm a Fan of graceland9 196 fans permalink
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How about people who are denied coverage - WHILE THEY ARE WORKING - because of a pre-existing condition? Do we owe them anything?

How about the small businesses who can't afford to provide health care for their workers because of skyrocketing costs? After all, they are employing 70% of the wrokers in this country . Don't we owe them something?

How about the self-employed workers, who are paying for health care on their own, but who can't afford to use it because they are afraid they might be droped? How about the ones who have health care and STILL get dropped? Don't we owe them something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 07/31/2009
- Anastasia I'm a Fan of Anastasia 72 fans permalink
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Touché!

The following countries have some form of universal health care, paid for by the government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care#Americas

Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Costa Rica, Cuba, Mexico, Panama, Peru Uruguay, Trinidad and Tobago and Venezuela all have public universal health care provided.

Brunei, China, Hong Kong SAR, India, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Japan, Malaysia, South Korea, Seychelles Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Pakistan and Thailand have universal health care.

Austria, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine and the United Kingdom.

And finally -

Germany has the world's oldest universal health care system, with origins dating back to Otto von Bismarck's Health Insurance Act of 1883.

Who knew that Otto von Bismark was a closet Commie?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 07/31/2009

Rhetorical questions to avoid answering a posed question, very good, powerful debate techniques. You lose.
The answer to your question is no, we do not owe it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 07/31/2009

Graceland,

In spite of my answer to you questions, I do believe that we need health care reform. Pre existing conditions should be mandated to be covered. We can help cover poeple without insurance.

But how do we pay for it without bankrupting the US and taxing the working people out of existance. I also do not want the government to have any thing to do with my health care. The US goverment could not run a animal shelter properly.
I don't believe socialism works.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 07/31/2009
- Sweetbay I'm a Fan of Sweetbay 138 fans permalink
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Oh, my. Now I'm embarassed. Your answer is not only much better than mine, but much more polite than mine was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 07/31/2009

Gracie, you have some good questions here, but unfortunately, like many Americans, you don't really have the facts. As a health insurance specialist, I deal with these questions everyday, and everyday I help people and small businesses address them.

Your first question is very broad, and it depends on who you are referring too. But, for the most part it becomes a matter of doing a better job shopping for a plan.

As far as small business, there ARE affordable options for them now, but the AFFORDABLE options will be eliminated by the HR Bill. So how will taking away affordable options help them?

Self employed afraid to use their insurance, they either have misconceptions about their plan, or have bought some garbage plan they saw on tv. Affordable quality plans can't drop you for using them. But those plans will also be eliminated with the new bill. So how will that help them? We already have commissioners in place to address insurance abuse, they just need to do their jobs, rather them spending more tax dollars on more government bureaucrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 08/01/2009

This guys must work at at Bank the ones that create nothing and relies on others for there existences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 07/31/2009

Wrong answer hopfull252

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 07/31/2009

Why do people pay taxes if there is no return on there capital.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 07/31/2009

Simple fact is, majority of people don't pay taxes, what return should they expect. Those that pay the majority of taxes, see the least return.

What is your point.


Vote Democrat, it is easier than working.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 07/31/2009
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Mandate - Loved by Insurance Companies!

70% of the public are FOR the public option. Why is Obama out there trying to convince them what they are already FOR? Shouldn't he be in the Oval Office behind his desk calling those politicians in who are not for it telling them, start over and make sure a public option is included?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 07/31/2009
- Sweetbay I'm a Fan of Sweetbay 138 fans permalink
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I think it's our job to call those politicians to make sure a public option is included.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 07/31/2009
- graceland9 I'm a Fan of graceland9 196 fans permalink
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Did you hear him have to explain to the elderly lady that his administration would NOT be visiting every AARP member and asking them how they wanted to die?

That's why he's out there - he has to clean up a lot of bu11. Thanks, FIXXED news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 07/31/2009

Where did this 70 percent figure come from? I watch 4 or 5 news sources and several polls daily and have not seen anything approaching this number.


Vote democrat, it is easier than working!
The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 07/31/2009
- Sweetbay I'm a Fan of Sweetbay 138 fans permalink
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Americans overwhelmingly support substantial changes to the health care system and are strongly behind one of the most contentious proposals Congress is considering, a government-run insurance plan to compete with private insurers, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

The national telephone survey, which was conducted from June 12 to 16, found that 72 percent of those questioned supported a government­-administe­red insurance plan — something like Medicare for those under 65 — that would compete for customers with private insurers. Twenty percent said they were opposed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/health/policy/21poll.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 07/31/2009
- lydiajean I'm a Fan of lydiajean 5 fans permalink

You're right. I think 48% are against this new plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 07/31/2009

VOTE INDEPENDENT if you're tired of getting ripped off by corporate spokesmen, I mean *cough* , congressmen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 08/01/2009

In the last couple of posts WA.R has to be misspelled to get passed the censors.

This is what our nation is involved in. It is not a word that should be Censored.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 07/31/2009

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 07/31/2009
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