Transparency Groups Urge Obama To Involve Public In Executive Order Revisions

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First Posted: 08- 6-09 01:17 PM   |   Updated: 09- 6-09 05:12 AM

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As President Obama prepares to modify the rules of executive power, 21 public advocacy groups and individuals are fighting to make sure he fulfills his promise to "restore the American people's trust in their government by making government more open and transparent."

In a letter written to General James L. Jones, Obama's National Security Advisor, the wide-reaching coalition requests that "the public be given an opportunity...to provide comment on the actual language of the proposed Executive Order revisions."

The main goal is to prevent abuse of executive power, said Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on Government Secrecy for the Federation of American Scientists, and a signatory of the letter. He said executive power expanded under the Bush administration, much to the country's detriment.

"Several of the most momentous and disastrous policy decisions of the last decade were made under conditions of extreme secrecy," Aftergood told the Huffington Post, citing the decision to invade Iraq, the warrantless domestic surveillance program and the use of torture as examples. "These were choices that could not be made in the light of day," he added.

During the 2008 presidential campaign, then-Senator Obama frequently criticized President Bush for a lack of transparency and reckless use of executive privilege. Obama pledged to reverse these transgressions if elected president.

Patrice McDermott, director of the coalition's leader, OpenTheGovernment.org, gives Obama an A- / B+ on transparency so far, but has some reservations, which prompted her to initiate this effort. "On issues that have to do with the exercise of executive power, like the state secrets issue, not so good," she said of Obama's performance.

McDermott is "hopeful" that the president would fulfill the request to release a draft of revisions to the public. "It's not us inserting ourselves into the process where the real negotiations with the agencies are going on -- it's just a final check for accountability," she said in an interview with the Huffington Post.

"We believe this recommended approach best serves the President and, most importantly, the nation," the letter reads. "It is also consistent with, if not essential to, the President's commitment to make his administration the most open and transparent in history."

Aftergood, while pleased with some of Obama's changes, still isn't happy with the status quo. So far, "the rule seems to be aggressive secrecy" with Obama, he said, referring to "state secrets privilege, or the names of visitors to the White House, and a whole host of other things."

Laying out the challenges involved in achieving greater openness, Aftergood said "no agency has an interest in surrendering its own autonomy. No one wants stronger oversight than they can get away with, and no one wants their own freedom of action limited. But that is what needs to be done here."

"My hope and my commitment is that it will change," he continued. "But it won't happen by itself. Every step will have to be fought for. That's what we've come to understand."

Aftergood and McDermott hope that the new order will be finalized and signed in the next few months.

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As President Obama prepares to modify the rules of executive power, 21 public advocacy groups and individuals are fighting to make sure he fulfills his promise to "restore the American people's trust ...
As President Obama prepares to modify the rules of executive power, 21 public advocacy groups and individuals are fighting to make sure he fulfills his promise to "restore the American people's trust ...
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- cuniverse I'm a Fan of cuniverse 3 fans permalink

The Repubs are now working from their playbook “ Strategies on How to destabilizing a government ” that they honed abroad home to America
Will it work on the Democrats ?
It has to be the Proletariat who must now fight for their rights, because most of their politicians are owned by Corporate America.
If Corporate America can't buy a politician them Corporate America will spend millions to REMOVE him or her from office, the politicians are keenly aware of this fact.
Now the masses are beginning to pay attention and demanding that their politicians work in their collective interests , and this is now proving very difficult for the politicians for they cannot serve two masters
The Corporations and the politicians usually controlled the people with infinite ease, is this about to change?
Will the people control their politicians ?
The Corporations always won because the control the politicians on both sides of the isle
And the sheeple had the privilege to vote
Stay tuned as America Sheeple Awakens , Corporate America Beware!!! I can hear the hammers in the distance as the guillotines are being built

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 08/07/2009

Tell the President how you feel about his new policies at http://lettertobarackobama.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 08/06/2009
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The way things are going now, it does not seem that the public influence was a serious promise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 08/06/2009
- MaryanneAZ I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ 132 fans permalink
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What do you want? Someone to read the individual Bills to you as a bedtime story? Someone to send you an Executive Order kit to mark-up? We have a REPRESENTATIVE government people. The sphere of public disclosure of legislation under consideration is vast in this Internet age. Try the Google.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 08/06/2009
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unfortunately both parties are only interested in representing their corporate masters. and this president vowed transparency and is not delivering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 08/06/2009
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No, I want people I support part of the conversation, like Kucinich and Sanders. I want the banksters and IranContra people no where near Obama. I want progressive ideas to be considered. He is not thinking too much out of the box.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 08/07/2009

This is a great idea! The executive branch needs to give up a lot more power than that but its a start. Obama might save the republic for another 100 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 08/06/2009

Ok I agree with you, but do you know that in order to bring balance to the executive branch Obama will have to get rid of patriot acts 1 and 2, military commission act, directive order 51 ect ect. I don't see it happening. The executive branch will not get out of control with obama in charge, but be fearful if another GOP rino takes over it. Obama must restore the executive branch powers ASAP, other wise we will be one step away of falling into a dictatorship.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 08/06/2009
- rbchilds I'm a Fan of rbchilds 17 fans permalink
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So what you would like is for Obama to not do as so many Democratic Presidents before him did and step all over the Constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 08/06/2009
- annieooo I'm a Fan of annieooo 20 fans permalink

We need more regulation and transparency of government. I just read on Newsmax.com that the House has approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite jets for transporting members of Congress and other top government officials. It was just last year that lawmakers sharply criticized the CEOs of the Big Three automakers for traveling to Washington by private jet for a hearing about a bailout of their companies. "The cabin aboard the G550 combines productivity with exceptional comfort. It features up to four distinct living areas, three temperature zones, a choice of 12 floor plan configurations with seating for up to 18 passengers."
One of the worst recessions in our history, worst debt in history and the house buys itself 3 luxury jets. I give up on America. We're doomed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 08/06/2009
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If we give up, they win. There are more of us than them. We have to find a way to fight back civilly but resoundingly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 08/06/2009
- MaryanneAZ I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ 132 fans permalink
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Congress wrote legislation giving certain members traveling security post-9/11. Congress needs to change it, but that is not going to happen with all of the fruitcakes out there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 08/06/2009
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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Im all for impeachment of the entire congressional body to enforce what they are responsible to do. Representation to the masses, NOT the corporations.

Any one else feel this way?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 08/06/2009
- Read Books I'm a Fan of Read Books 14 fans permalink

Ordinary citizens should have the opportunity to serve in Congress. Not just wealthy elites on both sides of the aisle. There is a website dedicated to this issue called: firecongress.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 08/06/2009

Campaign finance reform baby...that's the only way to clean up Washington.
Take the money out of the game and everything becomes a level playing field.

Pass it on.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 08/06/2009
- MaryanneAZ I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ 132 fans permalink
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Your remedy do not exist for citizens. Sue, please, please enroll in a government or civics class. It is not representation "to" the masses, it is representation "of" the masses. Masses - that would be us. Congress - that would our representatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 08/06/2009
- MaryanneAZ I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ 132 fans permalink
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Whoops. "Your remedy DOES not exist ..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 08/06/2009
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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I dont know about the Executive branch but it is the responsability of Congress to

Welfare
welfare n. 1. health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being. [

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 08/06/2009
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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To promote tranquility and the general welfare of the people which also includes our prosterity (future generations) The are guilty of criminally accepting bribes and something needs to be done!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 08/06/2009
- dthom403 I'm a Fan of dthom403 5 fans permalink

Beyond silly -- Americans are already in the process; it's called an election

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 08/06/2009
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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Tp prevent abuses by the the President. We had many by Bush and Obama today has changed many of his campiaign promises has changed. No wonder his ratings are dropping and they may need to drop very low before he realizes, he has let us down. Those reporting to Obama, are they reflecting the truths to him or is he simply ignoring truths Does he realize how little effects he has had so far on the economy? (jobs, personal finances) Does he realize he made certain promises and this is why people voted for him. We will hold him accountable to live up to these promises. If broken, then so shall his preseidency will be. You simply cannot sweep the nation with hope and change only to turn your back on it afterwards with out heavy consequences. . If corruption continues to control the financial and health industries, we have little recourses other than revolt! If he continues to spout only about green jobs, he better start implementing them. So far much of the GREEN he boasts about are being outsourced. When will this CHANGE begin I see muc of the same~ banks, lobbyists, republicans winning the internal wars. The only change I have seen is the media, they are reporting daily like never before and koodles to them! This is change I can believe in!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 08/06/2009
- MaryanneAZ I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ 132 fans permalink
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What nonsense! You might want to be careful of your irrational rhetoric. We do have laws against calls for revolt. Just a suggestion. If you want to go another direction, then find a candidate with a message and run that person in 2012. For me, I'm with Obama and, IMO, he has done a great job his first six months. This IS change I believe in!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 08/06/2009
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80IphtHrFzg
again - Hearing on Limits of Executive Power- Bruce Fein
Obama needs the lesson now -- shameful on behalf of constitutional rule of laws and international laws

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 08/06/2009
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 502 fans permalink
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What is the constitutional basis for the executive order? Any lawyers out there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 08/06/2009
- MaryanneAZ I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ 132 fans permalink
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Executive Order - a President's or Governor's declaration which has the force of law, usually based on existing statutory powers, and requiring no action by the Congress or state legislature. Ultimately, the state or Congress can write new law to address the Executive Order.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 08/06/2009
- IFTYS I'm a Fan of IFTYS 19 fans permalink
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"The main goal is to prevent abuse of executive power..."

Kind of like the firing of the Inspector General Walpin for investigating AmeriCorps fraud.

Where was the transparency in this executive order???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 08/06/2009
- MaryanneAZ I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ 132 fans permalink
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First, we must understand what an Executive Order is: a President's or Governor's declaration which has the force of law, usually based on existing statutory powers, and requiring no action by the Congress or state legislature.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 08/06/2009
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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Superb idea. Perhaps we'll learn why Barack is protecting Bush (et alia) from war crimes prosecutions while we're at it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 08/06/2009

Obama will expand the agt war, He will keep Bush imperial powers. I wouldn't trust not one with that amount of powers not even my father. You know absolute power corrupt. OH Obama is protecting Bush because he is part of the exclusive club, and I am not talking about just presidents. Every president has been expanding the executive branch for many years. Clinton expanded so powers with the Oklahoma city bombing, ATL olympics bombing ect. Bush took it to another level Patriot acts 1 and 2, directive order 51.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 08/06/2009
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