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First Posted: 08- 8-09 04:32 PM   |   Updated: 08- 8-09 11:22 PM

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Union officials continued to receive a barrage of threats on Friday evening and into Saturday punctuated by warnings that if organizers were sent to counter-demonstrate at health care town halls they would be met with violence.

An official with the AFL-CIO, a federation of labor organizations, passed on what he described as a "pretty direct threat" to those union hands who were showing up to balance out anti-Obama demonstrations being waged at local Democratic forums.

"I will be going to a local town hall this weekend, all you union members BEWARE!" an emailer wrote at 9:40 Saturday morning. "We will be waiting for you. better make sure you have arrangements with your local ER. today is the day when the goon meets the gun. see you there."

The email was first sent to the media-watching organization Newshounds before being passed to Eddie Vale, a spokesman for the AFL-CIO. The IP address used to post the email was traced back to Georgia.

The AFL-CIO isn't the only labor organization to be on the receiving end of threats of violence. During a day in which a woman called up its national office threatening to use her Second Amendment rights should her First Amendment rights be repressed, officials at the Service Employees International Union continued to be deluged with emails and phone calls with ominous undertones.

An official with the SEIU said she had received 50 such emails, including the following one, which was edited to make suitable for publication.

You socialist f---s have the nerve to say stop the violence at the town hall meetings when they weren't violent until you p---ies showed up because your n----- leader obama said to?????? When we have ours in Racine, Wi, I want you there. I want one of your little b----- to put his hands on this Marine. I want one of you to look or talk to me wrong. I'll be the last thing your ignorant faux body guards will remember for a very long time. You can f---ing guarantee that.

The escalating language and threats have caused union officials to grow increasingly worried about the possibility of serious violence at these town hall gatherings. On Thursday, a scuffle broke out outside a town hall in St. Louis, resulting in the arrest of an SEIU official and the injury of several participants. That same evening a near riot erupted in Tampa Bay after union hands tried to prevent an overflowing crowd from storming a town hall gathering.

Lawmakers, too, are feeling the heat to keep these forums civil. Though some are hosting events that don't allow for interruptions. A reader initialed B.W. offered this summary of a town hall he attended in Plymouth, Indiana, with Rep. Joe Donnelly, (D-Ind.):

"Instead of addressing the crowd and taking questions, his staff had every one fill out a card with a number and he met with people face to face," the reader wrote. "There were more people than time but at least 32 people spoke directly to him out of earshot of the rest of the crowd. The event had people with differing views on health care but remained very respectful. It was encouraging."

UPDATE: A Donnelly aide writes in to say that the type of event the congressman hosted is called a "Congress on your Corner" event. It allows for brief one-on-one exchanges between the congressman and his constituents and is a popular forum among the freshmen and sophomore classes in the House.

Union officials continued to receive a barrage of threats on Friday evening and into Saturday punctuated by warnings that if organizers were sent to counter-demonstrate at health care town halls they ...
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- horsey I'm a Fan of horsey 13 fans permalink
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is public option going down to a bunch of thugs ? i thought we had bigger stones than that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 08/17/2009
- dre7861 I'm a Fan of dre7861 24 fans permalink
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Should we be surprised that the email came from Georgia?

Everytime a Republican talks about Vietnam they always like to bring up that hoary cliche about the vets being spit on when they returrned to the States. During one of the Anti-War protests during the Bush regime I was going to the Book Fair at the Mall by Metro. As I exited the Metro station along with some of the protesters, a crowd of Bush supporters lunged at us. They screamed "Traitors" and "Commies." One even spat on me - he was holding a Bible!

Maybe what we need is for the Republicans to have mandatory civic lessons on what it means to participate in Town Hall Meetings. Given their tendency to hatred and violence I think the country would benefit. I hope the Unions show up in force and present a respectful face to these debates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 08/10/2009
- Vurz I'm a Fan of Vurz 19 fans permalink
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So basically right-wing nutjobs are making terroristic threats against American citizens participating in the democratic process and Fox and most of the other news news networks are cheering them on.

It's time Fox was off the air. Promoting anti-American violence is something only the enemies of this country do, and I can't see why we are giving our enemies a tv station.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 08/10/2009

My dad said something very telling last night - that there is a big segment of conservatives who really WANT to believe any/all criticism of Barack Obama and "his" healthcare plan, although it's pretty much Congressionally created and revised. So when someone says it has a "death panel," a very large amount of people immediately believe it and forward the concerns to all their friends, like-minded or impressionable.

I think my dad is right. And it's so disheartening, especially when it's not based/verified with the facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 08/10/2009

Don't hold a meeting at LA Fitness-u might stay healthy....

Don't go to a museum- (you might learn something)

Don't hold a meeting in a Post office..- (they like outsource style fed ex)

Don't go to church (You might get some inner peace)

Don't go to school - you might learn something - they like the KISS rule

High Scool or College Virg TECH/Columbine
Bringing a gun to a public forum on health care.- I am sure your questions & concerns will be answered)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 08/10/2009
- robbyJ I'm a Fan of robbyJ 32 fans permalink

Don't use commas or periods, you might be understood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 08/12/2009
- TaxDayMan I'm a Fan of TaxDayMan 9 fans permalink

"Hawaii state Sen. Will Espero, a Democrat, has confirmed plans to introduce legislation through which the state’s lawmakers would force the public disclosure of all President Obama’s birth documents held by the Hawaii Department of Health, including President Obama’s long-form original birth certificate." Isn't going away LIBs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 08/10/2009
- lesterbud I'm a Fan of lesterbud 86 fans permalink
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You will have to speak up, you sound so quiet and far away.
Did you say something about "confirmed plans to introduce.."?
Is that something like "I heard Beck say that we should say anything to keep our low-IQ minions apoplectic about this obvious non-issue"?
Sorry, can't hear you.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 08/10/2009
- TaxDayMan I'm a Fan of TaxDayMan 9 fans permalink

Will see what State Senator Espero (D) does!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 08/10/2009
- Giglawyer I'm a Fan of Giglawyer 5 fans permalink

If you only hear what you want to hear, you are intentionally ignorant. But that is your choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 08/10/2009
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You forgot this part KOOK...

"Espero told WND that he believes President Obama was born in Hawaii."
BAM!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 08/10/2009
- TaxDayMan I'm a Fan of TaxDayMan 9 fans permalink

Fine as lone as the records are relased to public and the courts!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 08/10/2009

Don't go to school - you might learn something - they like the KISS rule

High Scool or College Virg TECH/Columbine

Don't hold a meeting at LA Fitness-u might stay healthy....

Don't go to a museum- (you might learn something)

Don't hold a meeting in a Post office..- (they like outsource style fed ex)

Don't go to church (You might get some inner peace)

Bringing a gun to a public forum on health care.- I am sure your questions & concerns will be answered)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 08/10/2009
- robbyJ I'm a Fan of robbyJ 32 fans permalink

Don't use commas or periods, you might be understood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 08/12/2009

I hope he does, when the proof is circulated it will finally shut the birthers up.

On second thought, I doubt it because truth has nothing to do with their movement. Nothing will make it go away to you. By the way, isn't there a tea party or something that you need to go to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 08/10/2009
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 192 fans permalink
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I wonder at what point America will start taking the terrorist threat posed by conservatives seriously?

Is it going to take another Oklahoma City?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 08/10/2009
- maryyooch I'm a Fan of maryyooch 26 fans permalink

I'm afraid it will be worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 08/10/2009
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I think Glenn Beck will have blood on his hands.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 08/10/2009
- lesterbud I'm a Fan of lesterbud 86 fans permalink
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When you have no ideas of your own.
When you are faced with overwhelming intellectual superiority.
When your relevance is getting smaller and smaller.
When your belief system is being shown to be false.

Your only options are fear and violence.

That is the state of the conservative movement in this country.

The GOP is mortally wounded and will be very loud and dangerous until it finally dies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 08/10/2009
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 192 fans permalink
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Conservatives in America have a long history of being terrorists. Just ask any minority in the South.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 08/10/2009
- Genep34 I'm a Fan of Genep34 51 fans permalink

Yes indeed. But their true nature is being shown - their base is base.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 08/10/2009
- Giglawyer I'm a Fan of Giglawyer 5 fans permalink

You know, the post-Carter democratic party spent, ohhh, 12 years wandering in the political desert. Obama won with 53% of the vote. Don't be so quick to write off the GOP. Political parties weather storms like this well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 08/10/2009
- lesterbud I'm a Fan of lesterbud 86 fans permalink
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The GOP is self-limiting through its own policies.
Once a more centrist or libertarian option appears, the current iteration of the GOP will just be a fetid, fearful, fragment of its former self.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 08/10/2009

Don't go to school - you might learn something - they like the KISS rule

High School or College Virg TECH/Columbine

Don't hold a meeting at LA Fitness-(You might stay healthy....)

Don't go to a museum- (You might learn something)

Don't hold a meeting in a Post office..- (they like outsource style fed ex)

Don't go to church (You might get some inner peace)

Bringing a gun to a public forum on health care - I am sure your questions & concerns will be answered)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 08/10/2009
- robbyJ I'm a Fan of robbyJ 32 fans permalink

Don't use commas or periods, you might be understood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 08/12/2009

Good Lord! What has happened to my country? I am old enough to actually remember when Republicans were reasonably civilized people who simply held opinions differing from Democracts. No more. Now they are more like the violent gangs that terrorize cities like L.A. Shame on ALL of them. And, yes, law enforcement should definitely escort these idiots out of the town hall meetings when they become loud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 08/10/2009
- Nova16 I'm a Fan of Nova16 34 fans permalink

Republicans beginning with Reagan have abandoned any real concern for the working class including air traffic controllers, farmers, union members and school teachers. Their real mission has been to increase the wealth of the rich without regard to the best interests and welfare of all Americans--current example is the health care matter, creating massive profit for the industry. Vote republican at your risk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 08/10/2009
- Giglawyer I'm a Fan of Giglawyer 5 fans permalink

Check your Constitution under the First Amendment. I think it is reprehensible that these meetings become shouting matches, but this is the classic forum where everyone has a right to free expression and to be heard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 08/10/2009
- fya I'm a Fan of fya 18 fans permalink

Have a town hall meeting in the Bronx. Have it in any of the 5 boro's of NYC. All of the goons are invited. We'll enforce our 2nd Amendment rights too, if necessary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 08/10/2009

Try it on the South Side of Chicago. Try it anywhere in DC. Try it in Atlanta. Haha, they'll be waiting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 08/10/2009

Bring it ON

Sound familar -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 08/10/2009
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 34 fans permalink

we teamsters work under these conditions every day,.no big deal here for us.soon you will see us there .union yes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 08/10/2009
- JanSP1971 I'm a Fan of JanSP1971 42 fans permalink

Union members are true Americans that have always fought for the American workers and their rights. Go Union.... Union Yes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 08/10/2009
- PWM I'm a Fan of PWM 237 fans permalink
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If it was not for unions we would still be sending children into mines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 08/10/2009

Give up the Public Option Democrats, and you will lose your credibility completely! The Republican party has completely fallen apart in the face of Obama's superior political strategy, now the Democrats are going to break under the pressure of violence from a fragmented Republican­/Corporate sponsored criminals. They will never have a seat at the table again, but Democrats in Congress if you bend over on the Public Option, you will lose big.

Poor Americans have only one health care option, the emergency room! All the poor can do is respond to an emergency crisis, they can't prevent it and the pharms and insurance companies profit from that. When poor Americans see the doctor, it's usually when the cancer has spread, or the diabetes has induced a coma, or the cholesterol has caused major heart damage or stroke. The public option will place prevention of these catastrophic illnesses within the reach of far more poor than present.

It's time to overwhelm the big corporations and their puppets in Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 08/10/2009

Oh they want to gangbang now? Perhaps if some real gangbangers attended these meetings, the Republicans can see how it's done!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 08/10/2009
- smurphette I'm a Fan of smurphette 3 fans permalink

Ha ha ha !!! You can believe that !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 08/10/2009
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This is insane!There should be law enforcement at all these meetings to arrest these thugs.This has nothing to do with "free speech".Last time I checked it was against the law to threaten with violence.Can you imagine what would of happend to someone who wrote something like this at one of Bush's "screened" meetings.They would of been sent to Gitmo!Enough of this BS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 08/10/2009
- Genep34 I'm a Fan of Genep34 51 fans permalink

Agreed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 08/10/2009
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I was just thinking the same thing. The police need to be on hand and make sure that violence doesn't break out. I have never seen so much hate spewed. Such a shame...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 08/10/2009
- JanSP1971 I'm a Fan of JanSP1971 42 fans permalink

I believe there needs to be ground rules for these meetings explained before the meeting starts about how long someone can speak and about yelling out. So when a person or group does not follow the rules of conduct they will be taken out and they will have no reason to question why or no one to blame but themselves. There is no reason this type of behavior is allowed. The republican party would have NEVER allowed for this to happen under Bush and Cheney. Remember what happened to people that questioned invading Iraq?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 08/10/2009
- JanSP1971 I'm a Fan of JanSP1971 42 fans permalink

The republican party has lost any form of sanity they were even trying to hang on to. Why aren't the leaders of the party standing up to this far right extremist part of their party? What are they going to do when someone really gets hurt, who are they going to blame it on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 08/10/2009
- mrmikes I'm a Fan of mrmikes 14 fans permalink

Of course! Where's the old "disorderly conduct" statute when it's entirely appropriate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 08/10/2009
- maryyooch I'm a Fan of maryyooch 26 fans permalink

Why don't the Dems pull a Bush and use the Patriot Act? After all, those threatening the use of violence IS terrorism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 08/10/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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Don't think for one minute they are not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 08/10/2009
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The Labor Unions represent the working people of America. The Unions have been under persecution from the Repugs for years, and has become a shadow of it's former self. We need stronger labor unions to help offset the greed and glut of the rich robber barons of our country.

Now the Repugs are resorting to death threats.
Lets give them back their own medicine.
If it is a fight they want, then we should gladly oblige them.
I have no doubt that the workers of America would win a fight against the Repugs of this country.
Let the fights begin!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 08/10/2009
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