White House Insists It Didn't Give Away The Store To Big Pharma

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First Posted: 08-10-09 03:30 PM   |   Updated: 09-10-09 05:12 AM

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In the latest in a series of conflicting statements, White House officials on Monday insisted that they never entered into a deal with pharmaceutical companies whereby they agreed not to allow the government to negotiate lower drug prices for Medicare.

In a briefing with mostly new media reporters, three senior administration officials who spoke on condition of anonymity pushed back against reports that the White House had made such a pledge in return for $80 billion in promised cost savings over ten years.

"There was no discussion" of refraining from using the government's purchasing power to lower prices, said one of those aides. "It just didn't come up," said another.

Previous White House statements had only fueled speculation that such a deal had been made. Last week, Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina, told the New York Times the president had "encouraged" the compact with Big Pharma.

Later in the week, another White House official told the Huffington Post that President Obama wanted to keep Big Pharma's concessions to $80 billion -- and that any measures that would pursue cuts to prescription drug prices, should be considered outside of the health-care overhaul legislation.

When, on Sunday, the lobby group PhRMA pledged to spend $150 million in an ad campaign supporting the president's health care agenda, it appeared to be yet more confirmation of a significant pre-existing arrangement.

Meanwhile, criticism mounted online and elsewhere that Obama was betraying a key campaign promise, and even that he was giving into "extortion."

On Monday, White House aides called early reports "confused" and "confusing." They acknowledged that they had struck a deal with the pharmaceutical industry on one front, but not the one reported.

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The administration, they said, promised that in exchange for the $80 billion commitment it would not push for the inclusion of Medicare rebates as part of health care legislation. Under such a scenario, drug makers would pay back the government some of the difference between the higher prices charged under Medicare and the lower prices that are charged under Medicaid. It is one of several ways the government could lower the price of prescription drugs for seniors.

"In my view the only thing we said we wouldn't do is we said we would not pursue a Medicare drug rebate policy as part of health care," said the senior official, who added that such a plan would have faced a steep climb to passage in the Senate Finance Committee regardless. "This is the legislative process. It was taking place a little bit earlier than it normally takes place... But it made a lot of sense to us to have it happen because then, you could short circuit plans to work against health care reform. Because...those companies would have gone to the mat to work against a Medicare drug rebate, which my advisers on the Hill told me probably wouldn't pass anyway. So it made sense just to move forward."

In an interview with the Huffington Post on Monday afternoon, Ken Johnson, the senior vice president for the pharmaceutical industry's lobby, would not get into specifics about the conversations with representatives of the White House and the Senate Finance Committee. But he noted that his organization had made it clear from the very beginning "that we cannot support price controls."

Pressed about the discussions, Johnson added, "Among honorable people there can be honest differences of opinion..." Later, he would say that there was no distance between his and the White House's interpretation of the event.

"It's important to point out, there was never any quote-un-quote secret agreement with the White House," Johnson said.

The briefing by the White House aides was the latest attempt by the administration to control a story that has caused a fair amount of political and PR damage. The charge of backroom trading seemed to fly in the face of several promises made by then-Sen. Obama during the presidential campaign, among them that he would use the power of government to get more affordable drugs for seniors and that health care legislation would be conducted in an open and transparent manner.

On Monday, the trio of White House officials sought to clear the air of such criticism. Beyond the issue of rebates, they insisted no exchanges or promises had been made. The administration retained the right to use the leverage of the federal government to negotiate lower drug prices, they said.

"There have been a lot of stories in the New York Times that have confused the matter much further," said one senior aide. "But I'd think about it this way. [The pharmaceutical industry] believed in two things: That the current course we were on was unsustainable for the health care system. Something is going to break here eventually, which would be very bad for their business. And two, health reform is likely to happen. And so, they came to the table with a proposal that they thought - where everyone was going to take a haircut in this process - they came with a proposal which said we can be for this at this number. Can you guys go forward with this number? And that was the $80 billion number... That is the full extent of the deal."

In the latest in a series of conflicting statements, White House officials on Monday insisted that they never entered into a deal with pharmaceutical companies whereby they agreed not to allow the gov...
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- SangZe I'm a Fan of SangZe 38 fans permalink

Obama's lying. He sold us out early.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 08/13/2009
- Dustee I'm a Fan of Dustee 61 fans permalink
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he didn't sell you out, you were never for him idi.io.t.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 08/13/2009

Here is a link to the bill, per Nancy Pelosi press release:

http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 08/11/2009

Why does our government allow the drug companies to charge us so much more for rx's than they charge other countries. Why can't we get the generics that other countries get? Why is this not being questioned by congress?
The drug companies give money to congressmen and President Obama.
That speaks for itself.
If all of us received the same healthcare (& paid the same price) that congress pays that the major way to reform the system

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 08/11/2009
- virto I'm a Fan of virto 3 fans permalink

I couldn't agree more with HuffPo's new Washington Chief: The outcome of the healthcare issue will tell us what Barack Obama really stands for.

Having watched "Sicko" on HBO, it's a little dismaying that the president met behind closed doors with Billy Tauzin, the former congressman who sold out America's elderly by ensuring that drug makers could charge whatever they want -- without negotiation -- in connection with Medicare Part D, and then took a(nother) job with Big Pharma. But I suppose if you're going to meet with the players, Tauzin is the one.

For me, though, the real question is based on something Michael Moore said near the end of the movie: Real change will come to this country only after people are no longer held down by fear of losing their jobs and their health insurance -- and that ain't gonna happen unless and until the insurance industry, which is only one of two businesses that are statutorily immune from antitrust laws (the other is major league baseball), is forced to compete.

We shall see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 08/11/2009
- PaxEterna I'm a Fan of PaxEterna 80 fans permalink

Eeny Meen Miny Mo. take a pick, Mr. O

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 08/11/2009
- eahce I'm a Fan of eahce 11 fans permalink

There's nothing left of the store after the White House gave it all to Wall St.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 08/11/2009
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You are referring to the Bush bailout of Wall Street, I take it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 08/11/2009
- eahce I'm a Fan of eahce 11 fans permalink

As I said the White House, that would include BOTH Bush AND Obama. Get Real.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 08/11/2009
- TrueSense I'm a Fan of TrueSense 12 fans permalink

We have been punked. That lady's gut was right in that Washington Post article.

You are a fool if you do not believe Obama cut a deal. I am sure Nancy Parra, the Czar was there, another circumvention of the Constitution. Is he playing chess on our behalf or in a fascist or I am scared manner ?

Why over pay by so much for drugs in exchange for some ads and piddly cuts ? Pharma realizes they overplayed their hand in going public but this joint reframing tells me we are still being played.

Where are the transparency and the consumer and patients and doctors who truly care about patients ? Not invited ?
This is very Cheyney like.

His prescription for banking is joke. It is ahistoric, dubiously effective policy, and imperically flawed. Other countries have shown us this and we used to share that philosophy until Bush and Obama.

Who is being prosecuted ? No one !

What reforms and string are there ?

All the burdens of the mortage crisis to be borne by average folks, not by the banks and the elites. No laws apply to rich peopel or government officials. Wait, does that make him and elitist ?

He believed his rhetoric in Obama vs Obama on the Huff Po but he is awe of power and the elite few who have access to him and avg. folks or even populace folks do not !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 08/11/2009
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So, now we have the conservative MSM pushing l i e s to try to torpedo health care reform. Why does that not surprise me?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 08/11/2009
- 1dogs2 I'm a Fan of 1dogs2 133 fans permalink

It's worse than that, Molly. We have the allegedly "liberal" press publishing what is at least misinformation, if not disinformation, that has the effect, even if unintended (giving them the benefit of the doubt), of stirring resistance to the reform package among progressives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 08/11/2009
- Tulka2 I'm a Fan of Tulka2 301 fans permalink
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Way down this thread on page five, AllieMD asked me where i got a number.

I commented in passing that ninety percent of physician continuing education is provided by Big Pharma. The number comes from a page in today's Politics section of Huff Post. The article is called, "How Well Do You Know Big Pharma; Take the Quiz". The answer to question two is D. Ninety percent of phyician continuing education in 2005 was provided by Big Pharma.

It's pretty much all doctors know how to do anymore. Write prescriptions. The patient goes away happy. The doctor feels they have "done something". Back in the day, physicians supported people who healed themselves. Oh, Brave New World.

How Well Do You Know Big Pharma; Take the Quiz

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 08/11/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 451 fans permalink
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Fas-cism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 08/11/2009
- Tulka2 I'm a Fan of Tulka2 301 fans permalink
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Well, if you want to get all "facty" and precise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 08/11/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 451 fans permalink
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I do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 08/11/2009
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What?! Obama didn't make a deal with Pharma? He should be ashamed of himself. It's more important than ever that we have the freedom to be at the mercy of the price-gouging pharmaceutical industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 08/11/2009
- masher I'm a Fan of masher 49 fans permalink

If you read it carefully you will see that Obama only says he didn't enter into a secret deal to limit savings. It doesn't say they didn't enter into a deal to only negotiate to a certain amount.

So Obama is saying they can negotiate but only to a certain amount.

If you are worried that Obama is a change from Bush don't worry. Just remember the "reform" that Obama brought to the banks. :) He threw trillions of dollars of reform at them! That will teach them!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 08/11/2009
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 108 fans permalink

...Is it just me or does anyone else notice that Pharma does NOT have a vote on this? WHAT do they have to "negotiate" with? If they say no, the legislation, if signed into law, doesn't apply to them? Har!

Why do legislators, and Obama, behave as if these industries are a part of Congress?

(Rhetorical question - we all know the answer: Legalized bribery called "campaign contributions.")

-heavy-sigh-
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 08/11/2009
- liquidzen I'm a Fan of liquidzen 4 fans permalink
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Obama knows exactly what he is doing. I trust him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 08/11/2009
- Tulka2 I'm a Fan of Tulka2 301 fans permalink
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Oh, how i hope that you are right. He has pulled it out before. I heard one version where this is a luring out of the Republican wackos. They get a chance to show just who they are. The average American is repulsed by "the party of no" when so many are suffering.

Obama still has the people with him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 08/11/2009
- eahce I'm a Fan of eahce 11 fans permalink

In truth his numbers are falling fast.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 08/11/2009
- eahce I'm a Fan of eahce 11 fans permalink

What about the Wall st. bailout. W.C. Fields was quite right when he said "there's a sucker born every minute".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 08/11/2009
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I hope it's true he didn't sell us out to Big Pharma. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt for this moment.

If he did I'm done - and Ralph Nader, my $$ and time goes to you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 08/10/2009
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 108 fans permalink

Dennis K. would be a better choice. Yes, I've met both in person...
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 08/11/2009
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