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British Health System Hits Back At U.S. Critics

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RAPHAEL G. SATTER   08/12/09 09:28 PM ET   AP

LONDON — Britain's health care service says it is sick of being lied about.

Pilloried by right-wing critics of President Barack Obama's health care plan, Britain's National Health Service, known here as the NHS, is fighting back.

"People have been saying some untruths in the States," a spokesman for Britain Department of Health said in a telephone interview. "There's been all these ridiculous claims made by the American health lobby about Obama's health care plan ... and they've used the NHS as an example. A lot of it has been untrue."

He spoke anonymously in line with department policy.

A particularly outlandish example of a U.S. editorial, printed in the Investor's Business Daily, claimed that renowned physicist Stephen Hawking, who is disabled, "wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."

Hawking, who was born and lives in Britain, personally debunked the claim. "I wouldn't be here today if it were not for the NHS," he told The Guardian newspaper. Investor's Business Daily has since corrected the editorial.

As the debate over how best to look after American patients rages on, Britain's socialized health care system has increasingly found itself being drawn into the argument. Critics of the Obama administration's plan to overhaul US health care say the president is seeking to model the U.S. system on that of Britain or Canada – places they paint as countries where patients linger for months on waiting lists and are forbidden from paying for their own medication.

A Republican National Committee ad said that in the U.K. "individuals lose their right to make their own health care choices." Another ad launched earlier this month by the anti-tax group Club for Growth claimed that government bureaucrats in Britain had calculated six months of life to be worth $22,750. "Under their socialized system, if your treatment costs more, you're out of luck," the ad says, as footage of an elderly man weeping at a woman's bedside alternate with clips of the Union Jack and Big Ben.

The online attacks on Britain's health care system have been paired with strident criticism from Republican lawmakers.

In an interview widely interpreted here as an attack on the U.K., Republican Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa told a local radio station last week that "countries that have government-run health care" would not have given Sen. Edward Kennedy, who suffers from a brain tumor, the same standard of care as in the U.S. because he is too old. Another Republican, Congressman Paul Broun of Georgia, said that the U.K. and Canada "don't have the appreciation of life as we do in our society, evidently."

The criticism, widely covered in the U.K. media, has clearly stung Britain's left-leaning Labour government. The Department of Health took the unusual step of contacting The Associated Press and e-mailing it a three-page rebuttal to what it said were misconceptions about the NHS being bandied about in the U.S. media – each one followed with the words: "Not true."

At the top of the list was the idea that a patient in his late 70s would not be treated for a brain tumor because he was too old – a transparent reference to Grassley's comments about Kennedy.

And what of Republicans' claim that British patients are robbed of their medical choices? False again, the department said.

"Everyone who is cared for by the NHS in England has formal rights to make choices about the service that they receive," it said in its rebuttal.

Then followed a fact sheet comparing selected statistics such as health spending per capita, infant mortality, life expectancy, and more. Each one showed England outperforming its trans-Atlantic counterpart.

The British government offers health care for free at the point of need, a service pioneered by Labour in 1948. In the six decades since, its promise of universal medical care, from cradle to grave, is taken for granted by Britons to such an extent that politicians – even fiscal conservatives – are loath to attack it.

But the NHS faces significant challenges, not least a multibillion pound (dollar) deficit predicted to open up over the next five years. It has its critics too, particularly cancer patients who complain that the government refuses to cover costlier drugs, leaving those who need expensive treatments to pay for them out of pocket.

Nevertheless, many in the British press bristled at the criticism from America's right wing.

"How dare the Republicans bad-mouth our free health care system?" Guardian columnist Michele Hanson wrote Wednesday. "If I'd been born in the U.S., I'd probably be dead by now."

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04:23 PM on 08/18/2009
It doesn't surprise me that the USA would critic a healthcare system that really they have no experience of and know very little about. This is the "American way" - pass the blame, or make other countries look worse than 'this' in order to make themselves look better. I like the USA, I love the people (well, the liberals) but as a Brit who lives in the States I notice this notion of "freedom" being pushed in everybody's face. In the UK, freedom just kinda goes without saying - there's no guilt attached to it. Having a free healthcare system was great, I see lines of people at free clinics in San Francisco and feel so sorry for them, why should these people be denied healthcare? They are citizens of this country, it should go without saying. Yes Brits 'pay' for healthcare, it is budgeted from taxes that we pay, but in the US the taxes are equally as high, and there appears to be more of them - yet no free healthcare, and cheesy Kaiser commercials on tv trying to get you to hand over your hard earned cash to their evil corporation so they can waste more money on commercials. Britain is fair, the USA is a struggle. America needs to stop pointing the finger at other countries and deal with its own issues. There aren't even equal rights in this place, it really isn't the country to be pointing the finger at anyone and using the word
05:53 PM on 08/15/2009
Why didn't you link to or reprint the NHS fact sheet you discuss? It would be very helpful.
10:46 PM on 08/28/2009
I was curious about the same thing, and after not being able to find it anywhere, wrote to the article's author and the NHS itself 2 weeks ago. I finally got a response to my inquiry today and have forwarded the letter on to the Huffington Post. Maybe they'll post it.
12:28 PM on 08/15/2009
It is laughable to see so many posts touting Britain's "FREE" health care, or for that matter, all of the single payer systems around the industrialized world. Just who do these people think is paying for it? If the social theory being advanced is that everybody should pay and everybody benefits, no problem. That is what insurance is supposed to be and if that is what we are proposing that our government should do that, let's have that discussion. But to say their health care is "FREE" is a lie.
01:29 PM on 08/14/2009
I'm British, and I registered on this forum just to express how utterly bizarrely this whole debate is reading here in the UK.

When we see things like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c-JEx-Kfvc we blanch at quite how mad your country is.

In fact, this is how your swivel-eyed loons come across: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/americans-without-health-insurance-attack-plan-to-give-them-health-insurance-200908141981/

My mother has MS. She has a world-leading academic neurologist as her specialist doctor, specialised medicine delivered to her front door, regular check-ups: all free. My girlfriend is clinically depressed. She has regular appointments with- again- an academic psychiatrist at a world-leading teaching hospital, free medicine, and- when she was at her lowest ebb- social workers and mental health workers popping around daily to make her tea and talk her through her problems. Again, all free.

The NHS isn't perfect, and is worse than many health care systems in Continental Europe. However, the difference between the UK and the rest of the EU is that their systems are MORE 'socialised'- as you insist on calling it- than ours, and thus function more effectively through economies of scale and LESS rationing of resources. When people here complain about the NHS, the proposed solution is always that it's given MORE resources, not less, and certainly not that we adopt your Darwinian free-for-all.
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02:17 PM on 08/14/2009
It seems that it gets increasingly difficult to tell what is being presented as news and what is presented as satire. Seriously, the Fox item seems worthy of posting on The Onion, http://www.theonion.com/, but I am not sure the comedy is of the high calibre they're looking for.
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01:09 AM on 08/15/2009
This debacle must appear as absolute insanity to the rest of the world, especially in light of the last eight years of utterly inept and malicious rule. I am truly embarrassed. The issue is not so much as one group of people disagreeing with another over healthcare. If the debate was an honest one, firmly rooted in a well-informed populace, then I could accept fundamental philisophical differences. However, the "debate" is fueled entirely by deliberate and malignant misinformation being fed to a willfully ignorant general populace who are more than willing to screech their displeasure. My guess is that many on both sides have not read the house bill, and simply take their respective places on either side of the issue that have been defined as the left and the right.

Alas, everything here is politicized to the point of frenzy, and there will be no real discussion by the public over the merits and shortcomings of the proposed healthcare plan. Politics will drive the failure of any meaningful plan, and we have no one to blame but ourselves.
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01:02 PM on 08/14/2009
It might be instructive to study the histories of the health systems of other countries to get some inspiration on how to deal with the lies about universal health care.

A good place to get a feel for what has happened in Canada is to listen to the impassioned speeches of Tommy Douglas, leader of the CCF who gave Saskatchewan universal healthcare in the 1940s. Douglas' popularity helped ensure that the governing Liberals passed it for the whole country in the 1960s.

http://www.healthcoalition.ca/tommy2.html

http://www.healthcoalition.ca/

One speech of note, is actor Shirley Douglas (Keifer Sutherland's mum). She has her father's fire.
06:19 AM on 08/14/2009
Not only are they attacking the England NHS, they are also attacking the people of England. When the demonise the English healthcare system they are also demonising the English people who support it. This is a slanderous attack upon the government of England and on English citizens. Let me guess this is Republican pay back for England outlawing slavery all those years ago and setting on motion the chain of events that would get a non-"pink skin" elected president. Australia also has much the same system as England, yet the Republicans are silent about that, perhaps they think Australians might not have such a laid back attitude when it comes to protecting their universal health care system.
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05:59 AM on 08/14/2009
The fact that there is a debate; an argument indeed, about which is the better of Universal Single-Payer Health Care or Private Insurance Companies robbing the Country blind, is a manifestation of the reality that Americans are not as bright as they like to pretend that they are. It is only a bunch of Jack-As-Is who would argue that paying Insurance companies ridiculous sums of money for little to nothing,is better than the Right to unmitigated Healthcare. These are the same people who have exported the American manufacturing Industry to China et al., thereby precipitating the "Decline and Fall of The American Empire". "Long Live China" they mutter under their stinking breath, as they deposit the most recent dollar they have extorted from the rapidly destroyed Average American.

Therein lies the rub. American Policy is not about American People; it is about American Corporations. President Eisenhower warned us in the 1950's. We have not heeded this Republican President's warining. We are suffering the irreversible and inexorable consequences of that failure on our part.
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07:55 AM on 08/14/2009
You have pretty much expressed my view, with a few items I'll add now. The US was born out of rebellion and an essentially adversarial relationship with their own government, and that very odd and tense relationship continues to this day. The other item is that the roles of the worshiped like messiahs Mr. Ronald Reagan, Milton Friedman and of course Ayn Rand - how did she ever get any following in the economics world when all she was was a hack novelist - all helped to turn this nation's citizens against each other to the point that I no longer believe that Americans are capable of anything much beyond yelling at each other. Additionally it is clearly apparent to someone from different shores that the US Congress is essentially a kept woman for the benefit of the lobbyists and the wealthy interests they represent hence the impetus that has lead to the decline of the American Empire. The comment regarding the intelligence of the people is well founded. Clear evidence of this can be seen in that one of the first areas the various states are cutting in order to balance their budgets is - wait for it - education. Excellent.

RIP America - t'was wonderful while it lasted.
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05:27 AM on 08/14/2009
HOW EASY COULD THIS BE? ENGLAND IS GREAT!

My daughter is doing graduate work in England and she gets free coverage as described below:

Health Services, Insurance Information: Students who are not citizens of the United Kingdom may receive benefits from the National Health system if they are attending school in the UK. Students staying under 6 months they are entitled to free immediate first aid and emergency treatment, after which charges are made. If students reside 6 months or more, they are entitled to make full use of the National Health Service.
02:39 AM on 08/14/2009
Great article. My only quibble is the characterisation of the Labour government's response as stemming from being wounded due to their being left wing. Labour hasn't been left leaning since the early 90s and the days of Neil Kinnock (the greatest PM Britain never had). Second, loads of Tories have also leapt to the NHS' defence. Unlike in America, this is not a partisan issue in the UK or other nations. It's the ground floor of public policy and both sides agree it should be there.

David Cameron, leader of the Conservative Party, and the Shadow Health Secretary came out swinging for the NHS.

I say this out of no love for the Tories but to emphasise that this is a bipartisan reaction in the UK. Even one of the British women misused by an anti-reform ad run in the US now claims she was "duped."
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02:32 AM on 08/14/2009
God, wingers make zero sense. So many can actually trace their ancestry to England and across the U.K. Yet they trash the Brits and how they live with in every analogy they make. Conservatives feel the need to slam the system/processes, beliefs, society and people of England and other nations across the world--EVEN THOUGH, these people are supposed to be our strongest ally.

They have this supremely ignorant need and desire to prop up 'Everything American', even when it's been proven that every nation has its strengths and weaknesses. What is this need to verbally assault nearly every other nation in the world and the way they live? Is it insecurity or plain stupidity?

The lack of intellectual curiosity and the narrow mindedness in the ranks of the GOP is breathtakingly numbing.

When does the GOP love the Brits and others, one might ask? Only when they are in Bush's faux 'Coalition of the Willing', dying or being maimed next to our troops in Iraq or Afghanistan. Then, and only then, they are not 'mooching' off of America, according to the birthers, the 'I got mine' crowd and the neocons.

If they only got out of their house and thought about education as a key to ridding their family of generations of ignorance, our nation would be much better off...
11:32 PM on 08/13/2009
I think the right-wing attacks on foreign health care plans tend to be more about xenophobia than health care. If you ask right-wing pundits why the electorates in the UK, France or Germany don't do away with these "socialist" plans if they're so terrible, you get a response about how impossible it is to eliminate "entitlement programs" once they're in place. At least that's the response I got.
10:53 PM on 08/13/2009
I am so glad the NHS is making this stand,they are speaking the truth and it needs to be heard. Even though I know truth often hurts the ears of the we-think-were-right people! I appreciate this article and their efforts to try and give these liars in America a big dose of TRUTH. THANK YOU!!!!!!
10:48 PM on 08/13/2009
Finally we get to hear from the other side! I live in New Zealand where we also have publicly funded healthcare - it's not perfect, but most of the time it works, and it's a hell of a lot better than nothing at all.
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10:43 PM on 08/13/2009
"If I'd been born in the U.S., I'd probably be dead by now."

Well truer words were never spoken...and that is the fundamental difference between the US and civilized nations (pick one- Denmark, UK, France, Spain). This country doesn't value human life. A robust Death Penalty and no universal health insurance. The only time some of its citizens proclaim to value human life is to secure political clout for a twisted ideology. The Family is adamant about fighting abortion because it is a religious numbers game to them: too many Hindus and Muslims and Buddhists...Christians don't have as big a team so they must breed.
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10:15 PM on 08/13/2009
The NHS should sue for libel in the British courts. Newscorp (Fox, Wall St. Journal, NY Post) has assets in the UK, so sue them.