Obama To VFW: Afghan War "Fundamental" To U.S. Security

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LIZ SIDOTI | 08/17/09 05:29 PM | AP

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President Barack Obama speaks at the Veterans of Foreign Wars National Convention in Phoenix, Monday, Aug. 17, 2009. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

PHOENIX — President Barack Obama chastised the defense industry and a freespending Congress on Monday for wasting tax dollars "with doctrine and weapons better suited to fight the Soviets on the plains of Europe than insurgents in the rugged terrain of Afghanistan."

"Twenty years after the Cold War ended, this is simply not acceptable. It's irresponsible. Our troops and our taxpayers deserve better," he told a national convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars. "If Congress sends me a defense bill loaded with a bunch of pork, I will veto it."

Turning to the two foreign wars engaging the United States, Obama spoke of fierce fighting against Taliban and other insurgents leading up to Thursday's national elections in Afghanistan. He said U.S. troops are working to secure polling places so the elections can go forward and Afghans can choose their own future.

Attaining that peaceful future "will not be quick, nor easy," Obama said.

He said the new U.S. strategy recognizes that al-Qaida has moved its bases into remote areas of Pakistan and that military power alone will not win that war. At the same time, confronting insurgents in Afghanistan "is fundamental to the defense of our people."

As to Iraq, Obama reiterated his commitment to remove all combat brigades by the end of next August and to remove remaining troops from the country by the end of 2011. U.S. troops withdrew from cities and other urban areas in June.

Obama, in his third appearance before the VFW but his first as president, got hearty applause and standing ovations as he spoke at the Phoenix Convention Center to several thousand veterans, though only about two-thirds of the seats were filled.

That may have been partly because he started his speech nearly an hour before it was scheduled. Aides say he was anxious to get back to Washington after a four-day trip out West that was part family vacation and part business, including the VFW speech and town hall meetings in Montana and Colorado to push his health care agenda.

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Obama told the veterans that overhaul would not change how they get their medical services – and that nobody in Washington is talking about taking away or trimming their benefits.

Instead, he said he's instructed senior aides to work with the secretary of veterans affairs to come up with better ways to serve veterans.

Obama said he wants each of the 57 regional VA offices "to come up with the best ways of doing business, harnessing the best information technologies, breaking through the bureaucracy."

He said the government would then pay to put the best ideas into action "all with a simple mission – cut these backlogs, slash those wait times and deliver your benefits sooner."

Even at a time when Obama needs as much congressional support as he can summon for his health care priorities, he spared no party from his harsh critique of business-as-usual by some in the military establishment, some defense contractors and some lawmakers who write defense budgets.

He assailed "indefensible no-bid contracts that cost taxpayers billions and make contractors rich" and lashed out at "the special interests and their exotic projects that are years behind schedule and billions over budget."

He took on "the entrenched lobbyists pushing weapons that even our military says it doesn't want" and blistered lawmakers in Washington whose impulse he said was "to protect jobs back home building things we don't need (with) a cost that we can't afford."

He said such waste was unacceptable as the country fights two wars while mired in a deep recession.

"It's inexcusable. It's an affront to the American people and to our troops. And it's time for it to stop," Obama said.

As a candidate and as president, Obama has held up the weapons-buying process as the perfect example of what's wrong with Washington and why the public doesn't trust its leaders. He essentially picked a political fight with a large part of the congressional-military-industrial alliance.

He sounded much like his campaign rival of a year ago, Arizona Sen. John McCain. And, while in Arizona, Obama praised McCain for seeking to rein in costs and reform the weapons-buying process.

In seeking to overhaul the weapons-buying process, Obama hopes to make good on a campaign promise to change the way Washington does business. But it certainly won't be easy to do; lawmakers protecting jobs at home are certain to put up enormous fights over Obama's efforts to stop production on weapons like the F-22 fighter jet.

Despite objections and veto threats from the White House, a $636 billion Pentagon spending bill was approved by a 400-30 vote in the House late last month. It contains money for a much-criticized new presidential helicopter fleet, cargo jets that the Pentagon says aren't needed and an alternative engine for the next-generation F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that military leaders say is a waste of money.

The Senate will deal with the spending measure in September.

The president laid out a vision of a nimble, well-armed and multilingual fighting force of the future, not one that was built to fight land battles against the Soviets in Europe.

"Because in the 21st century, military strength will be measured not only by the weapons our troops carry, but by the languages they speak and the cultures they understand," he said.

He praised McCain for joining him and Defense Secretary Robert Gates in opposing unneeded defense spending.

Shortly after Obama won the White House, McCain had pointedly suggested there was no need for the Marine Corps to bring on newer helicopters to ferry the president at a cost of billions of dollars.

On the subject of the helicopters, Obama told the veterans: "Now, maybe you've heard about this. Among its other capabilities, it would let me cook a meal while under nuclear attack. Now, let me tell you something. If the United States of America is under nuclear attack, the last thing on my mind will be whipping up a snack."

PHOENIX — President Barack Obama chastised the defense industry and a freespending Congress on Monday for wasting tax dollars "with doctrine and weapons better suited to fight the Soviets on the...
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Jesus, he's only been in power six months. Not saying things are moving along as quickly as they should be but he's not failed America yet. Troops are coming out of Iraq, Health Care will eventually be sorted (and given nobody in the past 30 years has managed to change anything I think he should be given time), and the economy shoudl be coming out of recession next year. As for Afghanistan, there's no way NATO should be pulling out. The war was supported to the hilt in 2001, there is now an obligation to fix the mess WE started. By the way, if anyone is interested in seeing the front line from the comfort of their desk there's a report all week from the Afghan/Pakistan border:

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/asia_pacific/embedded+in+americaaposs+afghan+war/3312167

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 08/18/2009
- PitBull6 I'm a Fan of PitBull6 4 fans permalink

The mess was there long before we stepped foot in the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 08/18/2009

A mess, but not THIS mess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 AM on 08/19/2009
- amalfedup I'm a Fan of amalfedup 6 fans permalink

For a second during that speech I could have sworn I was listening to bush. Lots of things CHANGED about Obama. I am so glad I saw through the facade before the elections and voted 3rd party. I wish more Americans would wake up and help us end the nightmare that is a two "bought" party system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 08/18/2009
- Billy Hell I'm a Fan of Billy Hell 43 fans permalink
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What a lot of unmitigated hogwash. The only "security" to stem from the Afghan invasion and occupation is energy security. There has always been and will continue to be some pretext or other along the lines of "protecting American interests" or "national security interests" to justify the killing, maiming and plunder of resources the US of A has relentlessly been involved in.

Anyone who still buys into the "war on terror" needs to seriously consider regular visits to an analyst.

A stooge government is being established in Kabul the sole purpose of which is to permit an ongoing US military presence there to protect the proposed pipelines which will give the US energy control in the region. The most brutal of Afghan "war lords" are pulled into the government and the repression and destitution of the Afghan people is of no consequence to the US.

Any rationalization of the invasion is smoke and mirrors. Something the US propaganda machine is has honed to a fine skill.

Somehow the sheeple just don't connect the dots and see the same processes at work that justified so many other invasions and violent overthrows of democratically elected governments around the globe, from Latin America, the Middle East and Africa to South East Asia. Can't blame ya'll with the total lack of in depth coverage by the media who religiously swallow the "official" spin and regurgitate it to ya right? Wrong!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 08/18/2009
- jennylynn I'm a Fan of jennylynn 49 fans permalink

And everyone thought BO was going to bring the troops home. Guess he fooled you ....again!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/For-the-Left_-war-without-Bush-is-not-war-at-all-8119694-53506047.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 08/18/2009
- SangZe I'm a Fan of SangZe 34 fans permalink

Obama the peacemaker? What a laugh. Obama is tepid-Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 AM on 08/18/2009
- Billy Hell I'm a Fan of Billy Hell 43 fans permalink
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What's with this moderator tonight? Why aren't perfectly straight up comments getting through?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 08/17/2009
- Jompa I'm a Fan of Jompa 4 fans permalink

Bring back the Anti War bumper sticker. If you don't have one, ask your liberal friends to give you one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 08/17/2009
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 63 fans permalink

Bring our young men and women home President Obama !!
BRING OUR TROOPS HOME and don't forget your promise on Public Option !!!
You Promised !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 08/17/2009
- yappnmutt I'm a Fan of yappnmutt 70 fans permalink

if the hashish and opium(not heroin) were allowed in the usa i would agree with obama. otherwise, the history of conflict in afghanistan says its vital we leave immediately.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 08/17/2009
- viper234 I'm a Fan of viper234 34 fans permalink

Oh yeah, fundamental to what? The financial health of military contractors? Protect the troops. Bring them home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 08/17/2009
- Scott1560 I'm a Fan of Scott1560 18 fans permalink

Unlike Vietnam, today's protests are primarily political and are not fixed on a final objective no matter the party or president. Unfortunately, today's media plays along.

LBJ took heat just as Nixon took heat. We wanted out! Nothing diminished in the cause and we pushed on.

So where is MoveOn.org & CodePink? Where are all the protests, the media feeding stories on an daily basis? How & why did it all disappear after the elections? I've written a number of emails to various organizations opposed to war, but have yet to receive a single response. Nothing but silence and apparently journalists are not very interested in investigating for little is being said in the MSM.

I don't pretend to know if we should continue fighting or perhaps take a year or two off and become complete isolationists? I'll leave that to others. But.......­..I'd really like to know what happened to all the folks who were opposed to war based on personal convictions, were opposed to death & destruction? Makes me wonder if they ever had any resolve, didn't care about "bodies," just wanted a new administration?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 08/17/2009
- jasjohn128 I'm a Fan of jasjohn128 23 fans permalink
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I don't speak for the orgs you mentioned and don't have any inside scoop on war plans.

What's the difference now? There's one reason above all why many who opposed Bush's war policies are now watching and waiting instead of griping: It's that President Obama inspires trust and confidence and President Bush never did. Obama's an honorable man, we feel, and we're just as strongly convinced that Bush is not, and never was.

Obama's got good teams to help figure out where we're going in Afghanistan and Iraq, but Bush surrounded himself with ideologues, opportunists and sycophants whose main preoccupation was only to serve themselves.

Rumsfeld was an incompetent SecDef. Too old and arrogant to understand this enemy, he mocked honest warfighting advice, jobbed the U.S. military to hell and back, and ultimately got a lot of good American men and women killed for nothing.

Instead of killing bin Laden, his crew, and any Taliban that got in our way, Bush turned from a fight he didn't know how to win and moved on to invade a country that'd done us no harm - and in doing so brought death and misery to who knows how many tens of thousands of innocent people who'd already suffered terribly at the hands of that dictator.

We're stuck with these two ugly wars, but America's position now is as good as it's likely to get because there's better men and women in charge. So we'll watch and wait, and support the President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 08/18/2009

Obama pushes his war in Afghanistan but walks away from real health care reform.

Proof he never was who he pretended to be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 08/17/2009

Wouldn't life be great if things were that simple!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 08/17/2009

Actually no. I voted for change we can believe in. I was betrayed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 08/17/2009
- Scott1560 I'm a Fan of Scott1560 18 fans permalink

You can't compare the two issues. It proves nothing. Presidents can ram war down our throats, but not legislation such as health care. Like it or not, that's how our system works.

Presidents tend to enjoy wars. It is a demonstration of their power. I'd probably be the same way if I held the office and I'll bet many others in here would as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 08/17/2009

Be my guest to join up in the Army. You will replace someone who does not want to blow people away to feel powerful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 08/17/2009
- Mason I'm a Fan of Mason 38 fans permalink
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And now this . . . after he sold us out on health care.

He actually thinks it's a good idea to kill people in Afghanistan.

Anybody still believe in this a**hole.

He makes me want to throw-up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 08/17/2009

I used to be a consultant and I was giving a presenttion to a room full of managers at large corporation. When somebody asked me within a minute of my presentation:"Are you a preacher or a practitioner" . With everything else Obama is flip flopping on, it reminds me of this question and the answer is:
Obama is a preacher. He just says things to say things, there is no real belief behind them.

The whole "change" thing was said because it would sell well. Now that he is elected, he is equally sold to the big money as his predecessor. The war is nothing else but another way to support about the only industry we have left: The military industry. We need wars so we can sell guns and amunition and bombs and airplanes etc.etc.et­c. because it brings revenue.

It is time to wake up Obama is all words no action for the people but for the large corporations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 08/17/2009
- Billy Hell I'm a Fan of Billy Hell 43 fans permalink
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What a lot of unmitigated hogwash. The only "security" to stem from the Afghan invasion and occupation is energy security. There has always been and will continue to be some pretext or other along the lines of "protecting American interests" or "national security interests" to justify the killing, maiming and plunder of resources the US of A has relentlessly been involved in.

Anyone who still buys into the "war on terror" needs to seriously consider regular visits to an analyst.

A stooge government is being established in Kabul the sole purpose of which is to permit an ongoing US military presence there to protect the proposed pipelines which will give the US energy control in the region. The most brutal of Afghan "war lords" are pulled into the government and the repression and destitution of the Afghan people is of no consequence to the US.

Any rationalization of the invasion is smoke and mirrors. Something the US propaganda machine is has honed to a fine skill.

Somehow the sheeple just don't connect the dots and see the same processes at work that justified so many other invasions and violent overthrows of democratically elected governments around the globe, from Latin America, the Middle East and Africa to South East Asia. Can't blame ya'll with the total lack of in depth coverage by the media who religiously swallow the "official" spin and regurgitate it to ya right? Wrong!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 08/17/2009
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