Man Who Brought Assault Rifle To Obama Rally Was Part Of Radio Stunt (VIDEO)

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Huffington Post   |  Lila Shapiro
First Posted: 08-18-09 05:09 PM   |   Updated: 09-18-09 05:12 AM

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On Monday, a dozen people packing heat -- including at least one man carrying a semi-automatic assault rifle -- were spotted at a pro-health care rally next to the convention where President Obama was speaking. While it appeared at the time to be a random incident, similar to several other gun sightings at health care events, it's become clear today that this time the gun show was at least partially planned.

The man with the semi-automatic (referred to in interviews as "Chris," no last name) was spotted at the protest by CNN news cameras, in the middle of a Q&A. Today, his interviewer -- Ernest Hancock of conservative talk radio show Declare Your Independence With Ernest Hancock -- went on CNN and explained to host Rick Sanchez that he and Chris were actually in the middle of a radio broadcast. Hancock, also packing heat at the rally, had invited Chris to come down the protest with his rifle to be interviewed. The two men had known each other for two years, through their work for presidential hopeful Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas).

During the segment on CNN, Rick Sanchez said, "the more we look into this, the more it appears that it was really planned." Hancock concurred: "Oh, it's more planned than you think." In addition to scheduling the interview, Hancock had also informed the local police force.

As the interview continued, Rick Sanchez loudly exclaimed, "This was a publicity stunt!"

"Oh absolutely," Hancock responded.

Sanchez pushed on, "isn't there something terribly disingenuous about putting people on like that? And isn't there also something a little bit... dangerous about playing these kinda games--"

"Oh, it's not a game," Chris interjected.

"---with what I imagine is a loaded weapon," Sanchez continued.

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"We know what we're up against," Hancock continued. "We're up against a tyrannical government that will rob the next generation as long as they can get away with it."


Although Chris and Hancock were conducting their interview at a health care rally, their discussion focused on guns.

"Is it your advocacy that by having guns here we're probably all safer?" Hancock asked. Chris "absolutely" agreed. He then went on to explain how he was always armed, even when riding his motorcycle, though not always when he showered: "Sometimes when I take a shower I set it down on the sink."

Chris is also featured in a YouTube video produced by the libertarian group Freedom's Phoenix. In this video he expounds further on his right to bear arms. He also explains that he is "absolutely totally against health care... health care in this way, in this manner, stealing it from people. I don't think that's appropriate."

Despite being heavily-armed at all times, Chris didn't seem to have violent intentions. At the beginning of the video, someone asks Chris whether he plans to "water the tree of liberty." Chris responded, "I hope not."

This is a reference to a Jefferson quote, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Another gun bearing protester in New Hampshire, William Kostric, was holding a sign with that same Jefferson quote. He apparently served as an inspiration to the two men. From Hancock's interview on CNN: "It was Thursday that I called and talked to Al Ramirez, the representative from the Phoenix police department, and we were discussing -- we've been around this rhetoric that was building up around William Kostric, who did this in New Hampshire."



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On Monday, a dozen people packing heat -- including at least one man carrying a semi-automatic assault rifle -- were spotted at a pro-health care rally next to the convention where President Obama was...
On Monday, a dozen people packing heat -- including at least one man carrying a semi-automatic assault rifle -- were spotted at a pro-health care rally next to the convention where President Obama was...
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- Jim Capo I'm a Fan of Jim Capo 5 fans permalink
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Well, unlike MSNBC, they certainly would not have covered up the fact that he was black in order to get the story they wanted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI

Huff-Po: "We're 'shocked, shocked,' that political activists would actually plan to make a political statement at a political rally. " Meanwhile, a pass to the Microsoft/GE house organ cropping CNN video in an effort to incite racial tension.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 08/24/2009
- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 103 fans permalink
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The other term in the Jefferson quote ( "Liberty's natural manure") is much more apt for these folks in particular.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 08/20/2009
- expired I'm a Fan of expired 26 fans permalink

Another Michael Steele, can't see the forest for the trees. Yassa ma***sah. Ah b yo foo**l.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 08/20/2009
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The "House" variety...
They're using you, son!
You think,when it comes down to "it", that they're going to let your a$$ in the shelter with 'em?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 08/20/2009
- frankath I'm a Fan of frankath 11 fans permalink

Shouldn't the fact that the guy conducting the interview, WITH GUN IN HOLSTER, was AT LEAST a supporter of of group of nutcase ANTI-GOVERNMENT MILITIA, WHO WERE ALL INDICTED, be a HUGE story? Definitely the Secret Service would consider BOTH these guys to be a threat, as would the FBI. I bet they are on both services watch lists NOW. They don't want government intervention in their lives? Whatever...they've got it now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 08/20/2009

Just imagine what would have happened if a black man had brought a gun to a Bush appearance?
Would he have to go stand in the "free speech" cage?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 08/20/2009

The one at Guantanamo Bay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 08/20/2009

Can't help it, I love our President, President Obama. Isn't he great? What a privilege to live during this time when a great American leader once again emerges during turbulent to humbly and suceessfully lead our nation.

Thank-you, Mr. President

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 08/19/2009

OOOPs - probably should have previewed before posting - but - what can I say -
just excited to share the love

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 08/19/2009

That's cute. Co-sign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 08/20/2009
- Sean 6399 I'm a Fan of Sean 6399 34 fans permalink

No, Obama is not great.

He's a charming fellow with a beautiful family.

He's also the frontman for the ongoing soft fascism that is the American political system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 08/20/2009
- frankath I'm a Fan of frankath 11 fans permalink

Define "soft fascism".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 08/20/2009

In a country that assassinates and attempts to assassinate political leaders such as the US, it's absolutely crazy that people are permitted to come to town hall meetings or Presidential addresses with weapons of any kind. They should be detained, have their weapons and licenses confiscated and be forced to go to the equivalent of a drivers' ed course for errant drivers before they receive their weapons back. They should also be fined. I remember a woman being arrested for wearing an anti-war tee shirt at a Bush rally a couple of years ago.

Screw the NRA and screw the morons who try to equate carrying a weapon at a town hall meeting or Presidential appearance with some Constitutionally protected right. Let them change their fight over the Constitution to one dealing with prisoners rights and lowering bail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 08/19/2009
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Hancock is a kook

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 08/19/2009
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Libertarians are being highjacked by rightwingers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 08/19/2009
- MadHeart I'm a Fan of MadHeart 153 fans permalink

They ARE rightwingers. Want a laugh? http://billionairesforwealthcare.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 08/19/2009
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Socialists are being called liberal when the real liberals are libertarians..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 08/20/2009
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Ron Paul should come out in public and repudiate bringing loaded g*u*n*s to health care rallies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 08/19/2009

GOod point, will email him right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 08/19/2009
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they've hijacked his cause to an even more repulsive one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 08/19/2009
- Sean 6399 I'm a Fan of Sean 6399 34 fans permalink

Why would Paul do that? He supports the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 08/20/2009

And why, exactly, would Ron Paul want to do that?

I expect he would be all for guns at rallys, healthcare or otherwise

Just sayin'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 08/20/2009
- meede I'm a Fan of meede 37 fans permalink

Ms. Shapiro missed doing further investigation on this issue than just reporting Sanchez's interview. He & CNN too missed the mark on this.

Hancock was associationed with a militia group in the '90s. The majority of members were indicted -- not Hancock, which case was prosecuted by Janet Napolitano. Blurrs the lines even more. Hancock stated in this interview yesterday that "he he still believes the Viper Militia case was "manufactured" by the same government that manufactured Waco and lied to its people about 9/11."

"I've been feeling this coming again," he continued. "It's the same people. It's Rahm Emanuel, it's Janet Napolitano. It's Hillary Clinton. All these were the same people that were doing it back then."

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/ernest_hancock_viper_militia_gun_obama_event.php

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 08/19/2009
- OdinsEye I'm a Fan of OdinsEye 73 fans permalink
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"Hancock was associationed with a militia group in the '90s. The majority of members were indicted -- not Hancock"

All the members were indicted. Hancock was a supporter and friend, not a member.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 08/19/2009
- Stilts9 I'm a Fan of Stilts9 53 fans permalink
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I wanna sell these reich-wingers some toxic mortgages.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 08/19/2009
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man ... what a freakbag that Hancock is .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 08/19/2009
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A quote from above:

"Hancock, also packing heat at the rally, had invited Chris to come down the protest with his rifle to be interviewed."

So, how did the interview with the rifle go?

Someone please get Ms. Shapiro a copy of The Elements of Style so she can learn how to edit her work properly, unless the rifle is capable of editing as well as speaking.

SOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 08/19/2009
- frank2061 I'm a Fan of frank2061 4 fans permalink

Way to go after the big issues

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 08/19/2009
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It's hard to focus on big issue when one has to navigate a minefield of dangling participles.

SOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 08/20/2009
- Nina28 I'm a Fan of Nina28 13 fans permalink
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To the Hate Mongering bigots disappointment, this Black man with a rifle was doing it for a Radio Stunt.
They soooo much wanted to use him as a shield and poster boy to detract from their obvious NeoNaazee spin zone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 08/19/2009
- MadHeart I'm a Fan of MadHeart 153 fans permalink

Funny that he attended 2 libertarian meetings beforehand. He may be a tool, and a fool, but he's with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 08/19/2009
- John Beach I'm a Fan of John Beach 5 fans permalink
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funny how two days ago this what proof of "right wing militias" threatening obama. today it's a radio stunt. another vast right wing conspiracy theory goes down in flames, somebody call hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 08/19/2009
- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 286 fans permalink
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The black kid was part of a radio stunt and also a ron paul supporter which isn't surprising.

The other twelve where I'm sure, various forms of the same teabagging fanatics who protest for lobbyists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 08/19/2009
- John Beach I'm a Fan of John Beach 5 fans permalink
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which lobbyists are the bad ones again, i keep forgetting. the one's in the obama administration are the good ones right? even after he promised not to have any?

the community organizer upset when communities organized, it's kind of funny when you think about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 08/19/2009
- Teresa201 I'm a Fan of Teresa201 31 fans permalink
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What's not so funny is the lack of reporting on the other 10 guns there.
Another AK15 carried by a white man and 9 other hand guns......
As mentioned in the original article.

I guess they've been forgotten about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 08/19/2009
- 3Dubyadot I'm a Fan of 3Dubyadot 13 fans permalink
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So, let's see, you're OK with a black guy carrying a gun, but you are more concerned with the white guys packing heat. Ah, the genius mind of a true liberal. The thing is you have to lie so much to truly think like a liberal you kind of forget what the real story is. Teresa you are the reason liberals are not taken very serious in any format. Thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 08/19/2009
- OdinsEye I'm a Fan of OdinsEye 73 fans permalink
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AR-15

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 08/19/2009
- ladyv I'm a Fan of ladyv 26 fans permalink

Actually, this was supposedly proof from the right two days ago that right wing militias were *not* problematic because one black guy showed up with a gun, which of course means that you could have a thousand white guys out there with guns and the right would still ululate about how one black guy had a gun one time, too.

Now it's proof that the only gun toter who is not dangerous and only did it for the lulz was that one black guy.

Try again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 08/19/2009
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negative 10 for reading comprehension. The others were part of a right wing organization and went to hijack the topic to gun rights. Sometimes I too wonder what planet some people are from.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 08/19/2009
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