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Man Who Brought Assault Rifle To Obama Rally Was Part Of Radio Stunt (VIDEO)

Huffington Post   First Posted: 9/18/09 Updated: 5/25/11

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On Monday, a dozen people packing heat -- including at least one man carrying a semi-automatic assault rifle -- were spotted at a pro-health care rally next to the convention where President Obama was speaking. While it appeared at the time to be a random incident, similar to several other gun sightings at health care events, it's become clear today that this time the gun show was at least partially planned.

The man with the semi-automatic (referred to in interviews as "Chris," no last name) was spotted at the protest by CNN news cameras, in the middle of a Q&A. Today, his interviewer -- Ernest Hancock of conservative talk radio show Declare Your Independence With Ernest Hancock -- went on CNN and explained to host Rick Sanchez that he and Chris were actually in the middle of a radio broadcast. Hancock, also packing heat at the rally, had invited Chris to come down the protest with his rifle to be interviewed. The two men had known each other for two years, through their work for presidential hopeful Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas).

During the segment on CNN, Rick Sanchez said, "the more we look into this, the more it appears that it was really planned." Hancock concurred: "Oh, it's more planned than you think." In addition to scheduling the interview, Hancock had also informed the local police force.

As the interview continued, Rick Sanchez loudly exclaimed, "This was a publicity stunt!"

"Oh absolutely," Hancock responded.

Sanchez pushed on, "isn't there something terribly disingenuous about putting people on like that? And isn't there also something a little bit... dangerous about playing these kinda games--"

"Oh, it's not a game," Chris interjected.

"---with what I imagine is a loaded weapon," Sanchez continued.

"We know what we're up against," Hancock continued. "We're up against a tyrannical government that will rob the next generation as long as they can get away with it."


Although Chris and Hancock were conducting their interview at a health care rally, their discussion focused on guns.

"Is it your advocacy that by having guns here we're probably all safer?" Hancock asked. Chris "absolutely" agreed. He then went on to explain how he was always armed, even when riding his motorcycle, though not always when he showered: "Sometimes when I take a shower I set it down on the sink."

Chris is also featured in a YouTube video produced by the libertarian group Freedom's Phoenix. In this video he expounds further on his right to bear arms. He also explains that he is "absolutely totally against health care... health care in this way, in this manner, stealing it from people. I don't think that's appropriate."

Despite being heavily-armed at all times, Chris didn't seem to have violent intentions. At the beginning of the video, someone asks Chris whether he plans to "water the tree of liberty." Chris responded, "I hope not."

This is a reference to a Jefferson quote, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Another gun bearing protester in New Hampshire, William Kostric, was holding a sign with that same Jefferson quote. He apparently served as an inspiration to the two men. From Hancock's interview on CNN: "It was Thursday that I called and talked to Al Ramirez, the representative from the Phoenix police department, and we were discussing -- we've been around this rhetoric that was building up around William Kostric, who did this in New Hampshire."



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On Monday, a dozen people packing heat -- including at least one man carrying a semi-automatic assault rifle -- were spotted at a pro-health care rally next to the convention where President Obama was...
On Monday, a dozen people packing heat -- including at least one man carrying a semi-automatic assault rifle -- were spotted at a pro-health care rally next to the convention where President Obama was...
 
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01:12 PM on 08/24/2009
Well, unlike MSNBC, they certainly would not have covered up the fact that he was black in order to get the story they wanted:
http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=UYKQJ4-N7­LI

Huff-Po: "We're 'shocked, shocked,' that political activists would actually plan to make a political statement at a political rally. " Meanwhile, a pass to the Microsoft/­GE house organ cropping CNN video in an effort to incite racial tension.
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05:06 PM on 08/20/2009
The other term in the Jefferson quote ( "Liberty's natural manure") is much more apt for these folks in particular­.
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03:04 PM on 08/20/2009
Another Michael Steele, can't see the forest for the trees. Yassa ma***sah. Ah b yo foo**l.
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Passenger57
Keeping Calm And Carrying On...
03:08 PM on 08/20/2009
The "House" variety...
They're using you, son!
You think,when it comes down to "it", that they're going to let your a$$ in the shelter with 'em?
03:49 PM on 08/20/2009
Hell No!
02:32 PM on 08/20/2009
Shouldn't the fact that the guy conducting the interview, WITH GUN IN HOLSTER, was AT LEAST a supporter of of group of nutcase ANTI-GOVER­NMENT MILITIA, WHO WERE ALL INDICTED, be a HUGE story? Definitely the Secret Service would consider BOTH these guys to be a threat, as would the FBI. I bet they are on both services watch lists NOW. They don't want government interventi­on in their lives? Whatever..­.they've got it now!
12:00 PM on 08/20/2009
Just imagine what would have happened if a black man had brought a gun to a Bush appearance­?
Would he have to go stand in the "free speech" cage?
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joetherealist
The economy isn't broken; it's fixed
04:16 PM on 08/20/2009
The one at Guantanamo Bay.
09:57 PM on 08/19/2009
Can't help it, I love our President, President Obama. Isn't he great? What a privilege to live during this time when a great American leader once again emerges during turbulent to humbly and suceessful­ly lead our nation.

Thank-you, Mr. President
10:00 PM on 08/19/2009
OOOPs - probably should have previewed before posting - but - what can I say -
just excited to share the love
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joetherealist
The economy isn't broken; it's fixed
04:17 PM on 08/20/2009
That's cute. Co-sign.
04:15 PM on 08/20/2009
No, Obama is not great.

He's a charming fellow with a beautiful family.

He's also the frontman for the ongoing soft fascism that is the American political system.
04:50 PM on 08/20/2009
Define "soft fascism".
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06:30 PM on 08/19/2009
In a country that assassinat­es and attempts to assassinat­e political leaders such as the US, it's absolutely crazy that people are permitted to come to town hall meetings or Presidenti­al addresses with weapons of any kind. They should be detained, have their weapons and licenses confiscate­d and be forced to go to the equivalent of a drivers' ed course for errant drivers before they receive their weapons back. They should also be fined. I remember a woman being arrested for wearing an anti-war tee shirt at a Bush rally a couple of years ago.

Screw the NRA and screw the morons who try to equate carrying a weapon at a town hall meeting or Presidenti­al appearance with some Constituti­onally protected right. Let them change their fight over the Constituti­on to one dealing with prisoners rights and lowering bail.
02:57 PM on 08/19/2009
Hancock is a kook
02:54 PM on 08/19/2009
Libertaria­ns are being highjacked by rightwinge­rs.
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04:43 PM on 08/19/2009
They ARE rightwinge­rs. Want a laugh? http://bil­lionairesf­orwealthca­re.com
04:13 PM on 08/20/2009
Socialists are being called liberal when the real liberals are libertaria­ns..
02:53 PM on 08/19/2009
Ron Paul should come out in public and repudiate bringing loaded g*u*n*s to health care rallies.
03:41 PM on 08/19/2009
GOod point, will email him right now.
05:11 PM on 08/19/2009
they've hijacked his cause to an even more repulsive one.
02:46 PM on 08/19/2009
Ms. Shapiro missed doing further investigat­ion on this issue than just reporting Sanchez's interview. He & CNN too missed the mark on this.

Hancock was associatio­ned with a militia group in the '90s. The majority of members were indicted -- not Hancock, which case was prosecuted by Janet Napolitano­. Blurrs the lines even more. Hancock stated in this interview yesterday that "he he still believes the Viper Militia case was "manufactu­red" by the same government that manufactur­ed Waco and lied to its people about 9/11."

"I've been feeling this coming again," he continued. "It's the same people. It's Rahm Emanuel, it's Janet Napolitano­. It's Hillary Clinton. All these were the same people that were doing it back then."

http://tpm­muckraker.­talkingpoi­ntsmemo.co­m/2009/08/­ernest_han­cock_viper­_militia_g­un_obama_e­vent.php
04:19 PM on 08/19/2009
"Hancock was associatio­ned with a militia group in the '90s. The majority of members were indicted -- not Hancock"

All the members were indicted. Hancock was a supporter and friend, not a member.
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02:41 PM on 08/19/2009
I wanna sell these reich-wing­ers some toxic mortgages.
02:50 PM on 08/19/2009
man ... what a freakbag that Hancock is .
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02:41 PM on 08/19/2009
A quote from above:

"Hancock, also packing heat at the rally, had invited Chris to come down the protest with his rifle to be interviewe­d."

So, how did the interview with the rifle go?

Someone please get Ms. Shapiro a copy of The Elements of Style so she can learn how to edit her work properly, unless the rifle is capable of editing as well as speaking.

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frank2061
The GOP is a hoax. You know, like evolution.
02:46 PM on 08/19/2009
Way to go after the big issues
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04:18 PM on 08/20/2009
It's hard to focus on big issue when one has to navigate a minefield of dangling participle­s.

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02:36 PM on 08/19/2009
To the Hate Mongering bigots disappoint­ment, this Black man with a rifle was doing it for a Radio Stunt.
They soooo much wanted to use him as a shield and poster boy to detract from their obvious NeoNaazee spin zone.
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04:46 PM on 08/19/2009
Funny that he attended 2 libertaria­n meetings beforehand­. He may be a tool, and a fool, but he's with them.
02:25 PM on 08/19/2009
funny how two days ago this what proof of "right wing militias" threatenin­g obama. today it's a radio stunt. another vast right wing conspiracy theory goes down in flames, somebody call hillary.
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trolls lie
02:31 PM on 08/19/2009
The black kid was part of a radio stunt and also a ron paul supporter which isn't surprising­.

The other twelve where I'm sure, various forms of the same teabagging fanatics who protest for lobbyists.
02:35 PM on 08/19/2009
which lobbyists are the bad ones again, i keep forgetting­. the one's in the obama administra­tion are the good ones right? even after he promised not to have any?

the community organizer upset when communitie­s organized, it's kind of funny when you think about it.
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02:34 PM on 08/19/2009
What's not so funny is the lack of reporting on the other 10 guns there.
Another AK15 carried by a white man and 9 other hand guns......
As mentioned in the original article.

I guess they've been forgotten about.
02:45 PM on 08/19/2009
So, let's see, you're OK with a black guy carrying a gun, but you are more concerned with the white guys packing heat. Ah, the genius mind of a true liberal. The thing is you have to lie so much to truly think like a liberal you kind of forget what the real story is. Teresa you are the reason liberals are not taken very serious in any format. Thank you.
02:46 PM on 08/19/2009
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