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Biden To Announce Almost $1.2B For Medical Records

CARLA K. JOHNSON   08/20/09 07:05 PM ET   AP

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CHICAGO — Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday the nation has never been closer to substantial health care overhaul despite "all the shouting and all the political turmoil" of recent weeks.

Biden said restraining costs and insuring more people should unite fiscal conservatives and advocates for the poor behind the Obama administration's efforts to fix what Biden called a broken system.

If he wanted to hear about troubles in health care, he and Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius came to the right place. They got an earful from doctors and nurses attending a round-table discussion at a struggling nonprofit hospital serving the urban poor on Chicago's West Side.

A nurse said she worries about violent emergency room patients who throw bedpans and spit at her. A doctor from another hospital said she can't refer patients to dietitians to prevent diabetes because insurance won't pay for it. And a health researcher said black Chicagoans die needlessly because they are disadvantaged and uninsured.

Biden announced nearly $1.2 billion in grants to help the nation's hospitals and doctors put electronic health records to use. The grants will be funded by the $787 billion economic stimulus plan.

Storing patient data electronically can improve efficiency and prevent medical errors, Biden said, adding he's tired of being handed paper forms to fill out every time he goes to the doctor.

"I get handed one more clipboard I feel like clanging somebody on the head," Biden said, prompting laughter from about 60 health care professionals in the audience. "How many times do I have to fill out, yeah, I had asthma, yeah, I had two craniotomies?"

Biden sidestepped the question of whether a public insurance option should be part of a final health care bill. He made only passing reference to foes who've challenged supporters of overhaul with charges of a government takeover.

"With all the shouting and all the political turmoil on this issue, I don't think we've ever been closer to being able to do something substantial" to improve health care, Biden said.

President Barack Obama has made expanding insurance coverage and restraining health care costs his top domestic priority. But he's lost ground on the issue in opinion polls and Democrats in Congress are preparing to go it alone on legislation although bipartisan talks continue in the Senate.

Thursday's event took place not at a flourishing medical center but at Mount Sinai Hospital, where only 7 percent of the hospital's patients have private insurance. The rest are covered by government programs or are uninsured. In August, the hospital had only 1.42 days of cash on hand, hospitals leaders said. Its bad debt, the bills left unpaid by patients, was $62.3 million last year.

Mount Sinai nurse Chere Hamilton, among the Chicago health care workers invited to speak during Biden's round-table, said the hospital's emergency room is "a very, very violent place."

"We're spit at. We're swung at. We're kicked," Hamilton said. "We have urinals thrown at us. We have bedpans thrown at us."

Biden responded: "You're doing God's work."

Biden and Sebelius both talked about their aging parents, Biden about his 92-year-old mother's broken hip and how her care was coordinated; Sebelius, who speculated her 88-year-old father couldn't remember all his medications, said an electronic record would help his doctors get it straight.

Of the stimulus money set aside for health information, $598 million would establish centers to help hospitals and clinics with technical aspects of choosing systems. Another $564 million would be set aside to help hospitals share patients' information.

After the Chicago meeting, Mount Sinai Chief Information Officer Peter Ingram said the grants are good news for his hospital.

"We are part way along the journey" in transferring to computer records, Ingram said. "We need all the help we can get in implementation."

Sebelius plans to visit Ohio State University Medical Center on Friday to discuss electronic medical records there.

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Office of Health Reform: http://www.healthreform.gov/

(This version CORRECTS RECASTS; UPDATES with Biden quotes other comments, background. corrects amount to $598 million, sted $589 million for technical assistance centers. ADDS background, byline.)

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AngelaQuattrano
I just like to write comments
11:09 AM on 08/21/2009
This is a huge giveaway to the insurance companies, which will turn around to use the data to deny people insurance.
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PaxEterna
07:12 AM on 08/21/2009
My problem with this aspect of reform is this: everyone other industry except the medical industry has had to invest heavily in technology for the last 25 years in order to stay competitive and provide accurate, timely information. It's the name of the game.

Why are we the tax payers being asked to support this necessary infrastructure for hospitals and doctors? They should have been making this investment all along like normal businesses.

Perhaps they were paying themselves too much money?

The other problem I have is confidentiality. with hackers, not to mention predators like insurance cos, I am not sure I want all my medical information available to whomever electronically.

I think it is bogus reform. If I am wrong, and it is necessary, then the medical industrial complex should pay for its IT needs, not the taxpayers.
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CTtransplant
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we gro
02:25 AM on 08/21/2009
Folks, it's OUR taxes that pay for a majority of the cost of health insurance for our Congress people! Why should WE be paying for them to have what we ourselves cannot afford???? And what the health insurance industry is paying them to deny US????

We need to turn up the heat! Time to put more pressure on! Please sign this petition to have paid health care removed from our representatives in Congress until such time as they reform health care - to include a strong public option - for 'we the people' who they are supposed to represent. Then spread the word to anyone and everyone you know!

http://www.petitiononline.com/PubOp676/petition.html
BritishColumbian
American/Canadian liberal
01:00 AM on 08/21/2009
Vancouver. BC is starting to use electronic records more and more. When I went to my specialist this week, he was able to see all my blood tests on the screen, produce a graph and show me the improvement in a matter of minutes. All the tests from the lab are also sent to my primary care doctor as well. Efficient, informative and quick. No duplication of tests either. everyone on the same page.

So it is not just cost saving!!
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VOTER
Freedom from fear - the philosophy of human rights
10:35 AM on 08/21/2009
Sweden, also, uses electronic records for cost efficiency and as an important
tool for doctors and patients in diagnosing needed care.

Sure mistakes can and will be made.
My ob-gyn office has walls of paper files, floor to ceiling. I wonder if at the
end of the day there are ever any loose papers scattered on the floor?
Do maintenance and housekeeping do filing too?

I once had my lab results meant for the doctor sent to me at home.
Huh?
I called his office and asked if he was interested in the results.

My General Doctor belongs to a large hospital network and uses
electronic filing. So far, I am very impressed with the system.
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Weirdwriter
11:01 PM on 08/20/2009
This is the kind of health care reform everyone should see the benefit of. It will cut down on waste, inefficiencies, and the costs of dangerous mistakes.

Kudos to President Obama for pushing this even as all the attention is focused on one segment of the whole reform package.
09:18 PM on 08/20/2009
Gonna be the wet blanket here, but we already have this with our physicians. But, if we did not, I still would have rather had that amount of money spent on actual health care, as in doctor-to-patient relationship, rather than on updating records. Or, if not that, I would have rather had it spent on securing medicines for people than on records.
Sounds to me a lot like the stimulus plan: gonna fix the country by fixing the roads! Oh yeah, we fixed a few roads, a few guys from 3 or 4 of the same huge companies got called back to work, and now what? And I do not have faith in this administration nor the supposedly democratic congress to get health care done right. They will put forth a farce in the end, and claim victory.
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Seán O'Nilbud
Drunken Master
01:39 AM on 08/21/2009
At no point in your ruminations do you consider that it's your failure to understand the processes involved which is the problem. If $5,000 of recordkeeping prevents the duplication of $5,000 worth of blood tests, x-rays or cat scans then it is worthwhile on that basis alone.

If 3 or 4 huge construction companies are kept from shutting down through make work they will be ready to go when real work returns. There's a bunch of navy ships sailing round in circles doing sod all just in case someone wants to re-enact WWII, that doesn't bother you at all.
09:12 PM on 08/20/2009
An upcoming piece for Glen Beck? New government program that will take away your medical records! Socialist bureaucrats will decide what kind of health care you'll get! Of course, in ALL CAPS
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07:14 PM on 08/20/2009
I don't think that money comes from savings...
05:11 PM on 08/20/2009
What did Grassley & GOP get in those 2 extra years in congress 2004-2006

Ridge phony terrorsim = bush and the GOP

THe world blames the GOP and bush for mass global destruction

Let us not forget this
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annieooo
04:47 PM on 08/20/2009
As a former RN who worked in ICU's, Home Health and Quality Improvement/Risk Management all I can say is THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!
justobserve
Not left nor right or center. Just a free thinker!
05:21 PM on 08/20/2009
Need more people like you to voice their support!
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Freedom from fear - the philosophy of human rights
10:24 AM on 08/21/2009
Agree.
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graceland9
...and talk in the past and not the present tense.
03:22 PM on 08/20/2009
Moses had more up to date tech than the current medical system. good for the admin - it's going to be tough transcribing all the records chiseled out on pyramids, but once it's done, it will bring us into the new millenium. Finally.
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WilliamProc
Black Atheist Monotreme.
03:01 PM on 08/20/2009
Great that they're going for this. Now I hope that they standardize the databases.

The way things are now, your doctor could have your records in a software format, or program that is not compatible with another physician or hospital.
02:55 PM on 08/20/2009
finally! welcome to the 21st century USA. It will also cut down on unnecessary multiple testing.
02:46 PM on 08/20/2009
12 months. That is how long my son and his wife must wait for insurance approval BEFORE they choose to have a child with a policy they pay for in after tax dollars. They must get PERMISSION a full year in advance or there is zero coverage. Zero.

This is not imaginery death panels, but direct insurance company interference in the private lives of those paying ever increasing premiums. You pay for them to tell you when you can have a child. Take that Sarah Palin. Perhaps they should have offered you the same deal before Trig was conceived. See how you like it and then tell me about the terror of 'government' interference.
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01:19 PM on 08/20/2009
Who wants to listen to doctors singing songs about tummy tucks and colonoscopies? Don't they have better things to do?
02:26 PM on 08/20/2009
Who WOULDN'T want to hear that? Doctors could ad L.P. to the M.D. in their signatures.