Dems Who Backed Obama Tripping Up Reform

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First Posted: 08-20-09 12:14 PM   |   Updated: 08-20-09 12:46 PM

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As the Obama administration tries to maneuver its health care agenda through Congress, its objective has been complicated by a bit of political irony. Two of the main senators pushing against the president's preferred public option for insurance coverage are also some of the earliest supporters of then-Sen. Obama's presidential campaign.

Sens. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) and Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) endorsed Obama on December 29, 2007, and January 12, 2008, respectively. When Conrad offered his support, Obama had yet to win the Iowa Caucus and was still regarded as something of a long shot candidate. Nelson's endorsement, meanwhile, came after Obama lost New Hampshire to Sen. Hillary Clinton -- a critical moment during the campaign when it seemed as if the gains in Iowa had been lost.

A year and a half later, Nelson and Conrad are playing a decidedly different role. Nelson is one of a handful of Democratic senators who remains opposed to a public health care plan. Conrad, meanwhile, has grown increasingly vocal in his advocacy for a co-operative approach to health insurance, insisting that a public option doesn't have the votes for passage.

Obama, so far, has refused to dismiss these arguments outright or insist that a public option be included in insurance coverage. He has also been critical of progressive groups for running ads against recalcitrant Democrats on the matter. Nelson has been among the most targeted.

All of which raises the question: How much are the endorsements Obama received during the heat of the campaign affecting his approach to the equally feverish health care debate?

"This president survived the longest and toughest primary in modern American history," said longtime strategist Paul Begala. "You never forget the people who came early, but especially in this case. I still remember the same people who signed up with Bill Clinton in 1991 when we were carrying our bags on Delta."

"It works the other way though," Begala added. "People tend to support the things they helped create. These senators want to see Obama succeed. That's why they endorsed him."

Other political veterans agreed with Begala. It's impossible to simply dismiss an endorsement's significance, said Steve Elmendorf, a long time political practitioner and head of Elmendorf Strategies. At the very least, he said, it grants the senators a more favorable audience in the White House: "Politicians are people too. They remember these things."

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But an endorsement entails more than a simple quid-pro-quo. It also symbolizes a personal closeness and something of a shared political ethos.

"It is a sign of the relationship the two of them have," Elmendorf said. "Conrad developed a relationship where he liked him enough to endorse him. The endorsement came early and at a critical time, so Obama is going to listen to him."

The administration has given hints that it still values these endorsements. When Conrad declared this past week that co-ops were the only way to go forward in the Senate, the White House trod carefully in its response, even thanking him for his earlier support.

"I'm not familiar with the interview that Senator Conrad did," Deputy Press Secretary Bill Burton told MSNBC. "Obviously, we have a lot of respect for him. He was one of first guys on board in the presidential campaign and we certainly appreciated his support back then, but the president is committed to finding all the ideas that are out there that can help to bend the cost curve because if we don't -- right now, thousands and thousands of Americans, every single day are losing their health care."

To be sure, some Democrats who have soured on the public option either didn't endorse Obama during the campaign or offered their support very late. And the White House has been hesitant to push these lawmakers too hard as well.

Moreover, had Conrad not endorsed Obama so early in the campaign, it stands to reason that Obama would still be taking a friendly and cautious approach. Conrad chairs the influential budget committee while sitting on the equally important finance committee. But the endorsement, even for those who downgrade its significance, clearly has brought a bit of baggage.

"All of those relationships matter," said Norm Ornstein, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. "But what matters as much as anything is Obama having been in the Senate and [Joe] Biden having been in the Senate. They have an appreciation for Conrad's savvy and respect him. Even if he had been a Hillary Clinton supporter or a Chris Dodd supporter, I'm not sure it would change much."


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One shouldn't be surprised. They're just pink politicians from red states. Like Rush L had his rabid minions cross-over during the primary elections... the same concept is present here. Deep down these thumpers accidentally assumed Clinton was going to win.

They disingenuously throw their support behind BO, knowing he has the least chance, when honestly they want conservative in charge. The best we can hope to get out of the red states, is a watered down conservative. The reason they win is because someone has appease the rational voters. They can't compete against the fundamental conservative so the slippery weasels go and grab almost all the middle and left that have some form of logic in play.

These screwdogs don't like BO, I hope you know that? They're just playing the game for their own personal interest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 08/21/2009
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Did the support Obama or reject Hillary? That would explian what's going on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 08/21/2009
- kasv I'm a Fan of kasv 15 fans permalink

Take those two Senators (Baucus and Conrad) and then take a look at the # of citizens' votes they may have "brought to the table" in Nov of 2008. Do a poll on the public option in only their states. Subtract the option supporters from the 2008 Obama voters in their state. Then take THAT resulting number and compare it to the 77% of Americans who want the choice of a public option.

Cut Baucus and Conrad loose, Mr. President. You need to value your citizen supporters more than those two. They really don't care about those of us without health insurance; those of us who, even with health insurance can't afford the high deductibles, out-of-pockets, or have reached an annual or lifetime "cap". They don't care about the huge number of medical bankruptcies - other countries call that shameful in a country as rich as ours - so do we.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 08/21/2009
- goodnews7 I'm a Fan of goodnews7 19 fans permalink
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Are the Blue Dogs Really Working For You?The stated Blue Dog concerns over HR3200 include: the need for more cost containment measures; extra protections for small businesses and a focus on rural health care. House leaders have proposed making payment rates to providers in the plan 5 percent higher than Medicare payment rates. The Blue Dogs say they can’t support any link to Medicare rates, which they say pays well below market rates and varies unfairly around the country. In other words, the Blue Dogs are planning to protect the interests of the healthcare providers, rather than fighting to reduce costs to their voters.

Why would they do that? Could it have anything to do with the fact that the Blue Dogs have received $18,919,541 in campaign contributions from the health sector? That’s an average of $363,837 each. Bear in mind that many of the Blue Dogs represent poor districts, so that’s a very significant amount of money. We’ve posted a complete list of the amounts received by each Blue Dog member here. The largest and smallest sums went to: http://silverbuzzcafe.com/?p=2649

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 08/21/2009
- ladyvader I'm a Fan of ladyvader 86 fans permalink
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This sickens me to no extent. The blue dogs are no better than the GnOPers. We can all hope, which in this I have none, that they actually vote with the Dems on this. But I'm not holding my breath on this on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 AM on 08/22/2009
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Since 2001, increasingly, a progressive's biggest foe is the Dems, not the reprehensible Reps. Locally, in Portland, OR, we've had to witness the ugly spectacle of the official, unofficial blog of the Oregon Democratic Party, Blue Oregon (blueoregon.com) trash every progressive idea, in turn.

It isn't a coincidence or oversight that blogs like that explicitly advertise themselves as progressive. They know that cynicism is the hack's greatest friend, and are determined to mire true progressives with in moribund Dem rhetoric!

Here's a simple litmus test. Question that- as BO likes to quote- "money is the mother's milk of politics". Try to bring up the idea of government service as service, not a career. To quote one of the BO founders, "that's the dumbest idea I've ever heard"!

With friends like this...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 AM on 08/21/2009

Folks, it's OUR taxes that pay for a majority of the cost of health insurance for our Congress people! Why should WE be paying for them to have what we ourselves cannot afford???? And what the health insurance industry is paying them to deny US????

We need to turn up the heat! Time to put more pressure on! Please sign this petition to have paid health care removed from our representatives in Congress until such time as they reform health care - to include a strong public option - for 'we the people' who they are supposed to represent. Then spread the word to anyone and everyone you know!

http://www.petitiononline.com/PubOp676/petition.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 AM on 08/21/2009
- Macdaddy10 I'm a Fan of Macdaddy10 19 fans permalink

So you think Pelosi and the rest of them care about that petition. Well good luck then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 AM on 08/21/2009
- lisaman I'm a Fan of lisaman 25 fans permalink
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As opposed to doing....nothing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 08/21/2009
- Minnehaha I'm a Fan of Minnehaha 16 fans permalink

Why is it the first time we have a Black President there is a group calling themselves Blue Dogs. Where were the Blue Dogs when Bush was in the White House? Why is it we have report cards for this president? These folks could care less about the poor and the sick. I don't know what their reasoning is. You reap what you sew in this universe. They certainly are not their brothers keepers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 08/21/2009
- mongus I'm a Fan of mongus 15 fans permalink

Well, just like a lot of reTHUGlicans, corporate profits and lobbyists money are much more important than what it in the best interests of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 08/20/2009
- Macdaddy10 I'm a Fan of Macdaddy10 19 fans permalink

Thank you for bringing that out. You're so right, can we now get Obama to understand that also? He needs to stop taking their money too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 08/21/2009

Our Sen. Ben Nelsen is being hit by our Insurance comp."s, who backed his campagne, is his reason.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 08/20/2009
- oafishcad I'm a Fan of oafishcad 44 fans permalink

We can afford trillions every year to kill people but we can't afford millions every year to heal people. Sorry, that's effed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 08/20/2009

This is the kind of crap that has to stop.

We don't care if President Obama and conrad have some sorta bro-mance goin'

Time to bypass these 3 mo'fo's (nelson, conrad, and baucus) and take this puppy to Reconciliation....

In that scenario, their votes or support are no longer needed.

conrad...what a joke...he pushes for co-ops when his own plan for 'em isn't even half-baked.

If these 3 turkeys sink Reform, which will then result in sinking the Dems in 2010..how much will these "special relationships" be worth to the President and the democratic constituency, then ???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 08/20/2009

This is unbelievable! I guess wind insurance is ok for government takeover in Mississippi.

Monday Gene Taylor D-MS at TOWN HALL- on C Span Healthcare Hub, the majority were anti-HC Reform.

Gene Taylor D-MS Blue Dog- at TOWN HALL states the ONLY WIND INSURANCE in the state of MS is GOVERNMENT RUN INSURANCE!

Remember all those claims not paid? It was over 1 billion government dollars paid to residents in Mississippi because their insurance companies refused and were allowed not to pay.

After Katrina- all other insurance companies left state. So much for Public Option eliminating the INDUSTRY!


If another catastrophe with wind damage occurs in their state without insurance - the Federal Government- their state would be wiped out immediately.

Where is Socialism?

Where were the guns?

All anti-HC Reform- many seniors complain about all the fraud reported and nothing done- But- they are all anti HC Reform!

"The only wind insurance in the state of MS is GOVERNEMNT RUN INSURANCE!"

Wow- I guess the one and only PUBLIC OPTION is acceptable- When it comes to their home insurance.

The only option- A PUBLIC OPTION-and where is their outrage?

Where is their I want my country back?

Where is Socialism?

Where were the guns?

Unbelievable!

Mississippi- 49th in the nation for quality, affordable, accessible health care

Louisiana took their place at 50!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 08/20/2009
- Gatormouth I'm a Fan of Gatormouth 22 fans permalink
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Wrong. Mr. President, the Dems you say backed you and now don't support you never did. They merely road your coat tails. They deserve less than no consideration. Please allow progressives to work them over in the next primary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 08/20/2009
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We still have 2 wars, soaring defecits, no health care, no Bushies in jail, no repeal of don't ask don't tell, same oh, same oh, etc. I see no change to believe in, in fact I see no change at all. I'm sick of seeing Grassley, Hannity, Fox news, gun intimidation at peaceful rallies !!! I voted in the first time in 40 years for Obama. I'll never vote again unless I see CHANGE I CAN BELIeVE IN !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 08/20/2009
- Anym I'm a Fan of Anym 20 fans permalink
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So Conrad and Nelson own Obama because thy endorsed him.

I endorsed him the day he made the announcement to run so I own him more and I say public option or bust.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 08/20/2009
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