Snowe Says No Public Option, White House Says "That's Democracy"

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First Posted: 08-21-09 02:26 PM   |   Updated: 08-21-09 06:39 PM

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The Senate Finance Committee will not include a public option in its health care bill, one of the key Republican negotiators said on Friday -- to which the White House responded, with a shrug: "That's democracy."

Sen. Olympia Snowe, (R-Maine), told MSNBC that the proposal to offer consumers a government-run alternative to private insurance providers would not be endorsed by the "Gang of Six". It is that group of three Democratic and Republican Senators on the Finance Committee that has been vested by the White House with the task of reaching a bipartisan compromise.

"We have not had the public option on the table," Snowe said. "It's been co-ops and addressing affordability and availability of plans through the exchange and that's -- those are the challenges we're wrestling with -- to ensure that there are affordable, basic plans to offer Americans."

The remarks would seem like a blow to President Obama's avowed preference for a public option as a means for expanding coverage and lowering costs in the health care system. But the administration has also spent the past few weeks sending profoundly mixed signals on its devotion to such a provision. And when pressed for a reaction to Snowe's declaration, Deputy Press Secretary Bill Burton provided a non-nonplussed response.

"Well, that's democracy, isn't it?" Burton said. "You've got folks who come from all different spectrums who are trying to get something done and we appreciate that Senator Snowe has been such a leader on health care and has been working hard to find a bipartisan solution to get healthcare reform done. We're going to continue to work with her and Republicans in the Senate and Democrats and House Democrats and Republicans and try to make some progress here.

"Look, on the public option, the President has said over and over again that his goal here is to offer some more choices to bring costs down and to have more competition," Burton added. "The best way to do that he thinks is through the public option. If there's a better idea, he's certainly willing to listen to it. But you know we're still talking with folks on both sides of the aisle."

UPDATE: My colleague Ryan Grim reports: Snowe met Tuesday with business representatives and lobbyists from her state and said that the Finance Committees plan would not include a public option, according to a meeting participant who took notes and passed them on to the Huffington Post.

The committee bill, she told the group, was being scrubbed of controversial items.

Snowe met with Robert Bixby, executive director of the Concord Coalition; Clifford Mohr, president of Group Dynamic Inc.; Greg Dugal, executive director of the Maine Innkeepers Association; Tarren Bragdon, CEO of the Maine Heritage Policy Center; Dean Powers, director of the Maine Small Business Coalition; Richard Grotton, CEO of the Maine Restaurant Association; David Spellman, President of the Pratt Financial Group; and several other lobbyists.

She quizzed the bunch on what they thought of the proposal to mandate that individuals purchase health insurance. She added that she was considering requiring business with more than 50 employees to pay 100 percent of the cost of subsidies for their employees' health insurance.

Small business representatives told Snowe that they were opposed to any mandates that came without a public option and that such an alternative was desperately needed for small business, which can't afford the rising cost of health insurance for their employees. The costs make them unable to compete on a level playing field with bigger companies, which can use their size to leverage lower prices. Lobbyists representing larger corporations took the opposite position.

The heart of the Finance Committee's bill, Snowe said, is regulation that would force health insurers to offer, at an affordable price, a minimum standard of coverage -- a so-called "bronze" plan.

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The Senate Finance Committee will not include a public option in its health care bill, one of the key Republican negotiators said on Friday -- to which the White House responded, with a shrug: "That'...
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the house will be voting on single payer when they get back


come on people, get out and march on 9/13/09 noon - 3pm

spread the word

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 08/22/2009

only in america

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 08/22/2009
- LA2000 I'm a Fan of LA2000 6 fans permalink

A "bronze" healthcare plan? A minimum standard of coverage? How about a UNIFORM standard of coverage. We aren't talking seats at a concert here. This stuff is life or death.

Can you imagine if we did the same thing to police protection. Wealthy taxpayers could get their call of attempted break in answered by a fleet of squad cars - while the lower income taxpayers could receive prerecorded 911 tips on how to fight off intruders.

The public would be apoplectic.

Police protection and healthcare should have the same priorities for everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 08/22/2009
- nana4g I'm a Fan of nana4g 105 fans permalink

We already have a "Public Option" for everyone else but the working middle class and the working poor. Medicaid for the indigent; Medicare for the over 65 yrs and Dialysis patients; Va for Veterans; TriCare for the Military; "uncompensated" care for all those who report to hospital ERs for acute care from unmanaged, undiagnosed or communicable disease, trauma; we subsidize the Federal Plan for Congress. We are paying taxes and higher insurance premiums for all of that care. We are also struggle to pay for our own care. This Committee, as well as others, assume that we should be happy with a cut rate budget plan, "Bronze", that will limit our care options, while all of those other population groups receive access to unlimited care with subsidized premiums or total costs. The insurance industry benefits charging high premiums and containing costs through negotiating cut rate discounts for hospitalizations, up to 20% of all charges, and cut rates for prescription drugs; denying care due to pre-existing conditions, even minor ones; dropping coverage when you get too sick; revoking Medicare Advantage plans when the Senior gets too sick and putting them back into the Standard Medicare Plan, after they have taken all they can from government subsidies. It's a racket. Because healthcare in America is not seen as a RIGHT. It is just another business opportunity on the backs of the working middle class who is paying for everyone. This "Bronze" plan is "Let them eat cake."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 08/22/2009
- wltdnfaded I'm a Fan of wltdnfaded 65 fans permalink
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I haven't heard any glandularl­y-challeng­ed female opera singer hit any high Cs yet, folks. Have you?

From Bloomberg.com:

Obama May Abandon Effort to Reach Health Deal With Republicans

By Edwin Chen

Aug. 22 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama is likely in September to end Democratic efforts to work with Republicans on health-care legislation and press for a party-line vote if the stalemate on the issue in the U.S. Senate persists, a person close to the White House said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aNTYuAGqbfzI

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 08/22/2009
- JoeySoCal I'm a Fan of JoeySoCal 7 fans permalink

Democrats, stop being the abused spouse. Punch the bully in the nose, and kick him/her in the nuts/box.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 08/22/2009
- JoeySoCal I'm a Fan of JoeySoCal 7 fans permalink

There appears to be an intelligence problem in our leadership. Health care 'reform' without a public option boils down to an intellectual exercise, a red herring. Electronic records!?!?! That's why I knocked on all those doors, for electronic records?!?!? Somebody pinch me I must be dreaming. They may pass some rules, and guess what the health care industry's job is to do with those rules-- make swiss cheese out of them. Thread every loophole conceivable in them, and there will be many. If they mandate everyone has to be covered, then insurance companies will offer plans that cover you up to $10. If they make a rule that says Insurance can't deny your claim or deny you for a preexisting condition, then the industry will charge you through the nose in premiums or copays or fees or some other crap that congress WILL NOT PREDICT. They can't make all the rules that would be required because then it would be what it was supposed to be all along- a public plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 08/22/2009
- JoeySoCal I'm a Fan of JoeySoCal 7 fans permalink

I am truly shocked to see what appears to be such a vast lack of intelligence in Obama. I came to believe he was pretty smart, but now that is severely in question. This is based also on the fundamentally heinous bank bailout while leaving the public out to dry. More supporting evidence is the Neanderthal 'deal' Obama worked out behind closed doors to have insurance spend $200 million on THERE OWN TV ADS. That demonstrates the naivety of a small child. Surprise, the $200 million worth of ads are complete, impotent garbage. Fortunately we only traded it for ALL THE LEVERAGE WE HAD TO BEGIN WITH. I don't even know why I pay any attention to this drama anymore. It's crap.

I will say this though, Mr. Obama and the Democrats, we are going on a year into this and I am as yet to see much delivery of this transformational change we can believe in. You had better deliver, or you will reap the wrath of a people scorned. While that sounds like a threat, it is only in the same sense that you better not carry a lightening rod in a thunderstorm is a threat. Look at it more as a reminder to do the dam job you were recruited to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 08/22/2009
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doubters..­.you are a wagonist..­.

makes sense though...
you have no understanding of politics and strategy. pres. Obama has used the Republicans. you are say how. they have made themselves un-electable by opposing..­.he knows Americans want change but at every turn he forces the republicans to show their nasty side after a while people will get it...You cannot trust the republican­s...for you to say Pres. Obama is not intelligent is like saying John McCain won the election. Pres. Obama knows how to play weak in order to defeat arrogant people...l­ook at his track record.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 08/22/2009
- JoeySoCal I'm a Fan of JoeySoCal 7 fans permalink

Wagonist?
Let me assure you, if what you prophesize comes to pass, I will be the first to celebrate.
My meak little critical contribution as an individual citizen is always meant to be entirely constructive. But I have to do what I can with the facts that I have, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 08/22/2009
- JoeySoCal I'm a Fan of JoeySoCal 7 fans permalink

I am truly shocked to see what appears to be such a vast lack of intelligence in Obama. I came to believe he was pretty smart, but now that is severely in question. This is based also on the fundamentally heinous bank bailout while leaving the public out to dry. More supporting evidence is the Neanderthal 'deal' Obama worked out behind closed doors to have insurance spend $200 million on THERE OWN TV ADS. That demonstrates the naivety of a small child. Surprise, the $200 million worth of ads are complete, impotent garbage. Fortunately we only traded it for ALL THE LEVERAGE WE HAD TO BEGIN WITH. I don't even know why I pay any attention to this drama anymore. It's crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 08/22/2009
- JoeySoCal I'm a Fan of JoeySoCal 7 fans permalink

It may be democracy, but it may also not be leadership.
I'm pretty sure your campaign slogan wasn't "No we can't".
And it may be an improvement, but it may not be bold change or a new kind of politic.

Is anyone else starting to get a little nauseous?

Obama and the defeatocrats are simply getting played for fools, this episode is old as h e ll. To be beaten by the mental aptitude of Sarah Palin makes me want to move to another country in shame. This is horrendous.

Meet Mr. Obama, the new John Kerry.
Weak, weak, weak- weak sauce. Blah blah blah I'm an arrogant technocrat, blah blah blah, I'm a historic orator, blah blah blah. Check out my 832 point plan yadda blahda blahda.

What tangible improvements is the average person going to experience in their lives with the half-measures and prostituting compromises the democrats are championing? What motivation will they have to do any work for the next elections?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 08/22/2009

Kerry lost. McFlip-Flop is more akin to Peanuts. He could not lead either. Possibly McFlip-Flop will be good an ex-president as Peanuts has been.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 08/22/2009
- Msclvr31 I'm a Fan of Msclvr31 4 fans permalink

Any Tori Amos fans out there? Just curious...­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 08/22/2009
- Msclvr31 I'm a Fan of Msclvr31 4 fans permalink

Love fr the "Golden Bonde": in brunettes that love to comment as such!.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 08/22/2009
- jsarets I'm a Fan of jsarets 167 fans permalink

"Affordable, basic plan"

Read: You pay insurance premiums for the privilege of paying for the vast majority of ordinary medical expenses out of pocket. The insurance only pays off in case of catastrophic injury or illness. There is a disincentive to consume preventative care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 08/22/2009

When it really counts, Democrats always cave in to Republicans. Because the Dems are scare to put their jobs on the line for what they think is right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 08/22/2009

The ironic & hilarious thing is many of them WILL lose their jobs over their failure. lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 08/22/2009
- Mason I'm a Fan of Mason 43 fans permalink
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Olympia Snowe and the other 5 senators are wasting their time and our time.

No bill will pass without a public option. End of story.

She and the other five should just go home and start looking for another job.

They're going to need one come re-election time because people will not forgive and forget their BS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 08/22/2009

No Bill is going to pass. (PERIOD)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 08/22/2009
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