Millions Face Shrinking Social Security Payments

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STEPHEN OHLEMACHER | 08/23/09 09:51 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — Millions of older people face shrinking Social Security checks next year, the first time in a generation that payments would not rise. The trustees who oversee Social Security are projecting there won't be a cost of living adjustment (COLA) for the next two years. That hasn't happened since automatic increases were adopted in 1975.

By law, Social Security benefits cannot go down. Nevertheless, monthly payments would drop for millions of people in the Medicare prescription drug program because the premiums, which often are deducted from Social Security payments, are scheduled to go up slightly.

"I will promise you, they count on that COLA," said Barbara Kennelly, a former Democratic congresswoman from Connecticut who now heads the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare. "To some people, it might not be a big deal. But to seniors, especially with their health care costs, it is a big deal."

Cost of living adjustments are pegged to inflation, which has been negative this year, largely because energy prices are below 2008 levels.

Advocates say older people still face higher prices because they spend a disproportionate amount of their income on health care, where costs rise faster than inflation. Many also have suffered from declining home values and shrinking stock portfolios just as they are relying on those assets for income.

"For many elderly, they don't feel that inflation is low because their expenses are still going up," said David Certner, legislative policy director for AARP. "Anyone who has savings and investments has seen some serious losses."

About 50 million retired and disabled Americans receive Social Security benefits. The average monthly benefit for retirees is $1,153 this year. All beneficiaries received a 5.8 percent increase in January, the largest since 1982.

More than 32 million people are in the Medicare prescription drug program. Average monthly premiums are set to go from $28 this year to $30 next year, though they vary by plan. About 6 million people in the program have premiums deducted from their monthly Social Security payments, according to the Social Security Administration.

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Millions of people with Medicare Part B coverage for doctors' visits also have their premiums deducted from Social Security payments. Part B premiums are expected to rise as well. But under the law, the increase cannot be larger than the increase in Social Security benefits for most recipients.

There is no such hold-harmless provision for drug premiums.

Kennelly's group wants Congress to increase Social Security benefits next year, even though the formula doesn't call for it. She would like to see either a 1 percent increase in monthly payments or a one-time payment of $150.

The cost of a one-time payment, a little less than $8 billion, could be covered by increasing the amount of income subjected to Social Security taxes, Kennelly said. Workers only pay Social Security taxes on the first $106,800 of income, a limit that rises each year with the average national wage.

But the limit only increases if monthly benefits increase.

Critics argue that Social Security recipients shouldn't get an increase when inflation is negative. They note that recipients got a big increase in January – after energy prices had started to fall. They also note that Social Security recipients received one-time $250 payments in the spring as part of the government's economic stimulus package.

Consumer prices are down from 2008 levels, giving Social Security recipients more purchasing power, even if their benefits stay the same, said Andrew G. Biggs, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, a Washington think tank.

"Seniors may perceive that they are being hurt because there is no COLA, but they are in fact not getting hurt," Biggs said. "Congress has to be able to tell people they are not getting everything they want."

Social Security is also facing long-term financial problems. The retirement program is projected to start paying out more money than it receives in 2016. Without changes, the retirement fund will be depleted in 2037, according to the Social Security trustees' annual report this year.

President Barack Obama has said he would like tackle Social Security next year, after Congress finishes work on health care, climate change and new financial regulations.

Lawmakers are preoccupied by health care, making it difficult to address other tough issues. Advocates for older people hope their efforts will get a boost in October, when the Social Security Administration officially announces that there will not be an increase in benefits next year.

"I think a lot of seniors do not know what's coming down the pike, and I believe that when they hear that, they're going to be upset," said Sen. Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont who is working on a proposal for one-time payments for Social Security recipients.

"It is my view that seniors are going to need help this year, and it would not be acceptable for Congress to simply turn its back," he said.

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On the Net:

Social Security Administration: http://www.ssa.gov/

National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare: http://www.ncpssm.org

WASHINGTON — Millions of older people face shrinking Social Security checks next year, the first time in a generation that payments would not rise. The trustees who oversee Social Security are p...
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Time for the Social Security administration to call in some of those IOUs from the goverment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 08/25/2009
- Teamster I'm a Fan of Teamster 2 fans permalink
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Security benifits I see as a coin with two sides . The benifits are now to be reduced by law,

However the flip side , of

Security -It is incomprihensibe wrong or imorally wrong today to consider to take a grandchilds future earnings. In the legal profession does it no state intent or conspiring to take or defraud is a crime iitself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 08/25/2009
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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I hope no one is that surprised. We've been saying SS wouldn't be around for the gen Xers and younger for years now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 AM on 08/25/2009

I am disabled with a spinal cord injury & can barely survive now, soon i'll be sleeping in a van down by the river. HMNNNNN ......If only i had the money for a van.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 08/24/2009

I am sorry to read of your spinal cord injury.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 08/25/2009
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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My heart goes out to ya. Besides the spinal injury (well, I do have a serious herniated disk, but I'm sure it doesn't compare), we seem to be in the same boat -- or van. Well, that's once you or I can afford one. This is a real big mess. Hang in there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 AM on 08/25/2009
- krocklin I'm a Fan of krocklin 30 fans permalink

People with savings and pension have been wiped out twice by the stock market.
The banks were paying 5% on cds.
People with savings can barely get 3% now.
The rich are gettting richer; but this isn't the biggest problem. The Middle Class is getting poorer. Rapidly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 08/24/2009
- chendri887 I'm a Fan of chendri887 24 fans permalink
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That's as true as the sky is blue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 08/24/2009
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It sure is....and don't forget that we poor fools in the 30-45 age group are getting left holding the bag....yet again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 08/24/2009

how exactly are the rich getting richer when stocks are wiped out?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 08/24/2009
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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what middle class. I thought Bush destroyed that back in 2007.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 AM on 08/25/2009
- JaneK13 I'm a Fan of JaneK13 21 fans permalink

Social Security is a Ponzi scheme because the money collected for all those years was not kept in trust for the people. The "Social Security Trust Fund" is a giant piggy bank for federal government bureaucrats. They made fun of Al Gore when he spoke of the "lock box," but he was right -- when FDR started Social Security he did not ensure that it would be held in trust. All he did was set up a way for the federal government to take money away from the workers -- legalized theft!

Ronald Reagan was right, the most frightening words are "I'm from the government & I'm here to help."

Enough already!!! Sadly, we have come to the point where all the money an American worker earns between Januay 1st and August 11th every year goes to the government. If you have a job, more than half of what you earn is literally taken away from you by the government. Think about it!

It is time for hard-working Americans to demand an end to this government tyranny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 08/24/2009
- Chili4me I'm a Fan of Chili4me 32 fans permalink
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But instead some are asking for more big government program to just end in disaster.

Government controlled healthcare will be a bureaucrats dream.

Why can't democrats understand that the government never makes things cheaper??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 08/24/2009
- chendri887 I'm a Fan of chendri887 24 fans permalink
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By my calculations, less than one-fourth of my paycheck is taken for US government programs. I'm not aware of anyone in the United States who pays one-half of their income to the US government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 08/24/2009
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you meat puppet, you don't know what you're talking about. the govt isn't the problem, it's the corruption within it, paid for by the elite corporatist agenda.

aim your anger at the appropriate target.

as long as people are going to continue multiplying like rabbits, the need for national socialized programs will increase. get a lid on population growth, and eliminate corruption in existing govt.

THEN you can talk about downsizing govt.

no cart-before-horse logic, thx

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 08/24/2009

@JameK13,

You've been getting your taking points from the Cato Institute who for the past 25 years has been attacking Social Security by labeling it a "Ponzi Scheme". It is NOT a Ponzi Scheme. Social Security is a SOCIAL INSURANCE program. Or another way of viewing it -- A PUBLIC PENSION.

Social Security is a TRUST FUND. The money collected by the U.S. Government is HELD IN TRUST for the American People. The problem is that Capitalists HATE the program and want to PRIVATIZED the money entrusted to the Federal Government for U.S. WORKERS.

What you do not know is that priort to 1969, Social Security was NOT included in the Federal Government budget. Therefore prior to 1969 the accounting of how the Federal Government spent its money (Federal Income Tax) was more accurate and honest. However in order to UNDERSTATE the Federal government spending on the Vietnam War and the military it included Social Security into the Federal budget. That was a FRAUD and it mistates how the government spend its money.

In 1983, in order to mask the huge tax cut for the RICH in 1981, Reagan & Alan Greenspan come up with a scheme to regressively OVERCHARGE workers to then "borrow" that overchage into the federal budget to compensate for the huge transfer of money to the rich. For that coming up with that scheme, Greenspan was reward with chairmanship of the Fed.

People need to get their facts straight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 08/24/2009
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Franklin Roosevelt set up a covenant between the generations. Each generation helps to support the retirement of the generation that precedes it.

Social Security becomes a Ponzi scheme only when government breaks the covenant, Sadly too many people in and out of government want to abandon that now sacred covenant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 08/24/2009
- chendri887 I'm a Fan of chendri887 24 fans permalink
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Let's just face the facts: This country's government is little more than an endless war machine. It is still trying to micromanage as it did in the immediate post-World War II World. It still bases its political ideology on a sickening combination of Social Darwinism and evangelical Christian fundamentalism. It still has as its foundational mythology the idea of the new Israel protecting the old Israel. As a result, there is little money or help or sympathy for anyone who cannot "buck it up," take on the most rigid of patriarchal gender roles, and survive all this while being condemned by moral authorities for turning to addictive substances pushed on television endlessly to blot out the pure torture of trying to get by. God, what a horrible joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 08/24/2009
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But great profits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 08/24/2009
- chendri887 I'm a Fan of chendri887 24 fans permalink
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Yep, for a miniscule percentage of America's population, that's too true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 08/24/2009

I realize that there are many elderly people whose entire existence is based on social security payments. But everyone in the country is hurting. As more and more people on unemployment (under 62) reach their eligibiity time limit, many of them would be thrilled if they were entitled to even the most meager social security benefit.

State and local workers are being asked to forgo raises, and many are being asked to take unpaid time off. This is essentially a paycut, and there appears to be no guarantee that these "give-backs" won't be in effect well past 2009/2010.

So even though I feel for the elderly, it is only fair that the least they can do is forgo a cost of living increase, especially if the government bureacrats who determine these things say they really aren't due one this time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 08/24/2009
- JaneK13 I'm a Fan of JaneK13 21 fans permalink

Is this the hope & change Obama promised for senior citizens? Everybody is hurting so senior citizens have to give up their social security benefit in order rto share the wealth with younger people. Oh, and by the way, when the new health care plan is voted in, it will include some aggresive end of life counseling for old folks. We may be old, but we are not stupid. This is the "complete lives system" coming into place....o­ver 70 is disposable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 08/24/2009

on what planet do you spend most of your time?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 08/24/2009

Social Security should be faded out, it is the biggest Ponzi scheme in world history. It's completely unsustainable and should not be in the hands of the government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 08/24/2009
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I hear Bernie Madoff is looking for a new line of work...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 08/24/2009
- crease I'm a Fan of crease 10 fans permalink

Yeah,Give the money to the banks/Wall St and let them invest it for us,Riiiiiiiight! If the Shrub had gotten his way and privatized it millions of people would be in alot worse state than they are now, It will not work.Does the police and fire depts run at a profit or the post office or our public schools, NO,or medicare, it is not supposed to run at a profit.S.S was ffine until Ray Gun Ronnie doubled my S. S. taxes and borrowed from it for star wars so he could out spend the Russians and purge communism, well the Russians are capitalist and we are in a recession that makes the dpression look like a cake walk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 08/24/2009
- TheCommons I'm a Fan of TheCommons 15 fans permalink

Calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme is an easy allegation, just not true.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/06/news/economy/social.security.fortune/index.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 08/24/2009

Okay, so it's not a word for word definition of a Ponzi scheme. Doesn't change the fact that it's completely insolvent and steals money from younger generations. Money that it currently has no way of repaying when their time comes. The government is doing the people a huge disservice making them believe Social Security is going to be there for them when they retire when clearly it isn't. Even highly socialized Sweden has moved towards privatizing it's national retirement policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 08/24/2009
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There's only so much money in the treasury. This is the price we pay for endless wars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 08/24/2009

They received a 5.2 cola last January? Ask just about any hourly employee or mid level career salaried employee ( who does not bonus ) how much they have received in the last 10 years for cola. for most company employees it was not a thin dime. Many many people out there are receiving nothing for pay increases this year. Or possibly taken cuts . Yet they keep paying FICA so our retiree's can complain about times being hard. We will keep paying until our retirement year minimum age of 67 with no assurances that SS will be there for us when we are of age. We are supposed to put all our money in 401k,403b and for many of us thats worked out just swell /snark.
Let me guess, they are also screaming about the evil sinister dems touching their medicare while screaming in their next breath against health care reform and down with socialized medicine. not understanding that medicare is indeed socialized medicine or at the minimum subsidized health care.
its galling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 08/24/2009
- crease I'm a Fan of crease 10 fans permalink

What do you expect from the Sheeple on the right.whet­her they are young or old they don`t fact check and they look stupid and ignorant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 08/24/2009
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 67 fans permalink

USA adopted the Social Security System from the German Bismarck. Of course, we already got cut in half somewhere down the line because our dues are halved of what it should be. Why is it that a German makes double the amount than we do but yet we pay as much? Who put the social security in the general fund, that should have been off-limits to everything else but social security. Now they are having a problem. We had better demand that all senators/c­ongressmen won't get their pension either if they will pull that with us. Always screw the little guy. Time to take to the streets and revolt!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 08/24/2009

I live in Michigan (unemployment DOWN to 15% from 15.2) so needless to say finding a new job at 62 was not much of an option. I'm now "retired" my wife is 55 so she continues to work and the idea of traveling and golfing are out of the question. I get $937.00 a month, it pays for the phone, electric and the mundane of life. Our cars are 2002 models, but payed off and running well. I retired early, took the pay cut buy my industry (radio broadcasting) has pretty much abandoned using "real people" in the facilities anymore so I'm glad I was 62 and able to find a source of income. Social security is not broke, Congress stole the money from the trust fund and now says it's "out of money" throw out the scoundrel and thieves and restore the money to the social security trust fund!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 08/24/2009
- JoeBlough I'm a Fan of JoeBlough 60 fans permalink
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So, how much time were you going to spend golfing and other trivial pursuits?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 08/24/2009

country is going down the tubes and there's nothing we can do about it

good articles: http://www.iamned.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 08/24/2009
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Actually, there is something you can do. Support health care reform. Get the percentage of costs/ per GDP down from the present rate to something like Canada's rate and save about 6% (of GDP). Over time, that rate could come down even further. That savings could go toward better health care, cheaper health care, or both.

If you are employed, go to the HR office and ask how much your employer pays per person and ask for the rates from 5 years ago. Now, factor that from the last 5 years and project what a same increase will cost for the next 5 years. Then, the next 10. You will quickly see where all of your potential salary raises went.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 08/24/2009
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It's a cost of living adjustment (COLA)!

If prices are going down because of the recession, why would Social Security go up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 08/24/2009
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