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At Best, A Baby Step Toward Justice For Bush's Torturers

First Posted: 09/25/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:55 PM ET

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When it comes to the Bush torture regime, President Obama famously wants to look forward, not backward. But if the wrong lessons have been learned, the view ahead is bleak.

Nothing less than our country's moral standing is at stake. More than 50 years after the Nuremberg Trials, are we really prepared to assert as a nation that "just following orders" is an acceptable defense for gross violations of human rights? And what about accountability for the people who issued those terrible orders - and who fabricated their ostensible legal justifications?

Because here's the thing: Should the government's response to the repeated, systemic abuse of detainees after 9/11 end with the excessively circumscribed investigation described by Attorney General Eric Holder yesterday, a terrible precedent will have been set. The message for future federal employees faced with morally suspect orders will be clear: Do what you're told to do, and we'll cover your ass. And the message for future policymakers will be: If you can find someone at the Department of Justice to say it's OK, then anything goes - literally, anything.

Generally speaking, some investigation is better than nothing, But the "preliminary review" Holder announced yesterday is extremely limited in its scope, not to mention circumscribed by a bounteous grant of prosecutorial immunity. From Holder's statement:

The Department of Justice will not prosecute anyone who acted in good faith and within the scope of the legal guidance given by the Office of Legal Counsel regarding the interrogation of detainees. I want to reiterate that point today, and to underscore the fact that this preliminary review will not focus on those individuals.

Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball report for Newsweek that Holder's new review is limited to "'less than a dozen' cases of alleged abuse by individual CIA operatives and contractors that took place years ago."

Human rights activists are justifiably disappointed, not just because of the small scope of the review, but because it aims so low in the chain of command.

"If this ends with the prosecution of a few low ranking people who crossed the line of the fine print of the Justice memos" while leaving high ranking officials at the CIA and the White House untouched, "then it will be worse than nothing at all," added Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch, a group that has long advocated a more sweeping probe than the one Holder has ordered.

Salon's Glenn Greenwald writes:

As a practical matter, Holder is consciously establishing as the legal baseline -- he's vesting with sterling legal authority -- those warped, torture-justifying DOJ memos. Worse, his pledge of immunity today for those who complied with those memos went beyond mere interrogators and includes everyone, policymakers and lawyers alike: "the Department of Justice will not prosecute anyone who acted in good faith and within the scope of the legal guidance given by the Office of Legal Counsel regarding the interrogation of detainees." Thus, as long as, say, a White House official shows that (a) the only torture methods they ordered were approved by the OLC and (b) they did not know those methods were criminal, then they would be entitled to full-scale immunity under the standard Holder announced today.


This quite likely sets up, at most, a process where a few low-level sacrificial lambs -- some extra-sadistic intelligence versions of Lynndie Englands -- might be investigated and prosecuted where they tortured people the wrong way. Those who tortured "the right way" -- meaning the way the OLC directed -- will receive full-scale immunity.

Greenwald also quotes Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon, who applauded Holder's decision but noted in his statement:

I do, however, want to avoid a repeat of the Abu Ghraib experience in which lower-ranking troops who committed abuses were hung out to dry, while the senior officials who bore clear responsibility for the situation got off scot-free. In my mind, it would be wrong to focus solely on punishing individuals who went beyond the Bush Administration's guidance and committed unauthorized abuses, without looking at the senior officials who created an environment in which torture was viewed as not only permissible but necessary. Those who deliberately created an environment in which "anything goes" have no right to be surprised if low level operators exceeded the guidance they were given, and I believe that it is important to hold these senior officials accountable.

The latest release of documents, which most notably includes a 2004 report from the CIA inspector general, contains yet more shocking evidence that torture - even at its most extreme -- was explicitly approved by top Bush administration officials. Newsweek's Isikoff and Hosenball write:

[S]ome of what CIA inspector general John Helgerson concluded were excesses were endorsed by the highest levels of Justice. Helgerson's report, for example, questioned "the repetitive use" of waterboarding, the controlled drowning technique used on Khalid Shaikh Mohammed 183 times.


But after Helgerson questioned whether such repetitive waterboarding exceeded what had been authorized by the Justice Department legal memos, he was informed by the CIA general counsel that he was wrong. The attorney general at the time, John Ashcroft, "acknowledged he is fully aware of the repetitive use of the waterboard and that CIA is well within the scope of the DOJ opinion and the authority given to CIA by that opinion," the report states. "The Attorney General was informed the waterboard had been used 119 times on a single individual."

Indeed, when this blood-curdling report first came to the attention of Bush administration officials, they weren't the least bit disturbed. R. Jeffrey Smith writes in the Washington Post:

When an internal CIA report concluded in May 2004 that "unauthorized, improvised, inhumane, and undocumented" interrogation methods had been used on suspected al-Qaeda members, the predominant reaction within the Bush administration was not revulsion but frustration that the agency's efforts inside a network of secret prisons had not been more effective, former senior intelligence and White House officials recall.

There's still a chance that what Holder started yesterday will eventually become something much bigger. Carrie Johnson writes in the Washington Post :

Legal analysts said the review, while preliminary, could expand beyond its relatively narrow mandate and ensnare a wider cast of characters. They cited U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald's investigation of the leak of a CIA operative's identity, which culminated with the criminal conviction of then-Vice President Richard B. Cheney's chief of staff.

But even that wouldn't be enough - especially if, as was the case with Fitzgerald, the prosecutor is prevented from going public with his overall findings.

What's needed is a full-throated congressional investigation like the one that Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy has called for - and that Obama's political advisers have stymied. As Leahy said in a statement yesterday, the latest release of document only "underscores why we need to move forward with a Commission of Inquiry, a nonpartisan review of exactly what happened in these areas, so that we can find out what happened and why. Who justified these policies? What was the role of the Bush White House? How can we make sure it never happens again? Information coming out in dribs and drabs will never paint the full picture."

There is so much we still don't know about what was done in our name during the Bush era. And the thing that may be the most absent is any visceral sense of how people should have behaved when their government asked them to do things that were immoral, and illegal. The answer, of course, is that they should have resisted - even spoken out. A thorough public investigation won't just expose what we did wrong and bring accountability to those who failed their moral tests, it will also call attention to those who did the right thing. And there were such people - people like Alberto Mora and Steven Kleinman and Anthony Taguba.

The more we learn, the more of them we'll find. For instance, R. Jeffrey Smith writes in the Washington Post that the former CIA inspector general who authored the 2004 report "said in an e-mailed comment on Monday that he undertook the study in part because many CIA employees involved in or aware of the program 'expressed to me personally their feelings that what the Agency was doing was fundamentally inconsistent with long-established US Government policy and with American values, and was based on strained legal reasoning.'"

The people who did the wrong thing should be punished, or at the very least exposed. And those who did the right thing should be raised up as our heroes, as our role models.

Then we can move forward -- in the right direction.

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When it comes to the Bush torture regime, President Obama famously wants to look forward, not backward. But if the wrong lessons have been learned, the view ahead is bleak. Nothing less than our coun...
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
06:34 AM on 09/02/2009
Has the JUSTICE Department BEEN SHUT DOWN YET? Shutters on the DOORS?

NOTHING of SIGNIFICANCE HAS HAPPENING since H0LDER T00K 0VER! NOTHING Except protect BUSH/CHAINY! Now a weak investigation of EITs!

Holder did investigate his own prosecutors and got the Stevens conviction tossed out!

Wake up to $TRILLIONS TAKEN on Wall Street! The military contractor theft!

Isn't Justice doing the same thing that the SEC did with Madoff - Ignoring the FACTS until it EXP10DES in their F@CE?

And Wall Street Continues to Skim, Scam, Cheat, Automate CR1ME, and DRIVE America into the GROUND!

Why is H0LDER, with all the big promises, ignoring the FACTS?
01:41 AM on 08/27/2009
http://pubrecord.org/torture/4070/describe-extraordinary-detail-process/

Another New Document: This One Describes in Extraordinary Detail Process of ‘Rendition,’ Torture

Among the treasure trove of documents released Monday related to the CIA’s detention and torture program is a 20-page background paper that for the first time describes in extraordinary detail the process of “rendition” and the torture prisoners are then subjected to when they are flown to “black site” prisons.

The background paper clearly illustrates that the torture of detainees was systematic and micromanaged by the top officials at the CIA, the Justice Department, medical professionals, and likely the White House. Previously, the CIA has refused to disclose any details of its rendition program citing state secrets.
03:40 PM on 08/26/2009
The problem is that no one will care, either way, unfortunately. Too busy Keeping Up with the Kardashians and/or Jon & Kate and their 8 spawn
02:55 PM on 08/26/2009
Oh gad... give us a break. "Nothing less than our country's moral standing is at stake...''?
Horse hockey. If the records when released just one American was saved from a terrorist attack or harm, then you and all liberals whiners who "feel" so much about "moral standing" owe the American people a formal and public apology.

You want an investigation? Let's have one. Let's make sure every Bush official is called. Let's make sure every Democrat in Congress like Pelosi and Reid that were involved are under oath and in full public display. Hell, let's make sure the renditions under Clinton are also fully investigated and all testimony fully released. I'm betting the Dems will come across as bigger hypocrites and lying bastards than the Bush administration. It's time for the whole truth. Bring it on!
02:30 PM on 08/26/2009
A few months ago during a press conference, President Obama asked a hypothetical question regarding the EITs that were used to get critical info from KSM: "Would we have gotten the same information if we had not used these techniques?" Well, according to the Inspector General's report, we have the answer - NO. When less disagreeable techniques were used, we did not secure vital information. Only when the CIA began using the enhanced techniques did KSM start spilling his guts - leading to the capture or termination of other terrorists, and foiling future planned attacks.

Not only do we have an answer to Obama's question, it turns out Darth Vadar (aka Dick Cheney) was telling the truth! The EITs worked and saved American lives. And it is precisely for this reason that AG Holder wants to prosecute the CIA operatives who utilized the EITs. We have to punish those who protected Americans from additional attacks.

Only in the convoluted world of the radical leftists currently running the countyr does the AG drop charges against other radical leftists (New Black Panthers) for voter intimidation, and prosecute CIA agents for defending America.

THE QUESTION: Why do people living in America who have benefitted from the freedom and prosperity of America hate it and want to destroy it? Can one of you please, please 'splain that. I cannot grasp your motivation, your logic, your objective.
02:57 PM on 08/26/2009
I don't think you're question is really fair. But, what I do wonder is why do these people weep for mass murdering, head cutting off monsters. They believed another threat imminent, and these individuals held information to stop it. I mean, it's fine if they get blasted to bits in a battle, but get a little rough with them, and 'Oh, the humanity....won't someone save these mass-murdering son's of...." It's ugly and unfortunate, but if it keeps Americans from being incinerated as they go to work, so be it.
01:10 PM on 08/26/2009
Unfortunately, as a U.S. citizen I feel much less safe since Mr. Obama took office.
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DimBulb2
11:59 AM on 08/26/2009
From the fox site:

YOU DECIDE: Should the Justice Department reopen -- and possibly prosecute -- cases of alleged mistreatment of terror suspects by CIA interrogators? Share your thoughts, first vote in our poll and then click on the "leave a comment" tab below.

Thank you, we have already counted your vote.
Yes 6% (6243 votes)
No 94% (106472 votes)

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dems08
Above all... avoid the moor
12:15 PM on 08/26/2009
Americans decided.

We elected President Obama.
01:10 PM on 08/26/2009
"Thank you, we have already counted your vote."

Ha!. Typical Dem...trying to vote more than once.
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dems08
Above all... avoid the moor
11:58 AM on 08/26/2009
fox noise headlines:

'Air of Anger, Distrust Over CIA Probe'

'Holder's CIA Probe Latest Controversy'

'YOU DECIDE: Should Alleged Abuse Cases Reopen?'

'Were CIA's Harsh Interrogations Effective?'

'WSJ Op-Ed: Obama Versus the CIA'
11:45 AM on 08/26/2009
You would threaten the very future of our country to exact your petty political revenge. How pathetic. How revolting.
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dems08
Above all... avoid the moor
11:56 AM on 08/26/2009
If you're pissed, we must be doing right...
11:12 AM on 08/26/2009
Very well written and reasoned. We need to prosecute and punish everyone involved in these war crimes for the same reason we pursued and prosecuted war crimes after 1945 and continue to this day. These crimes were never ever made legal and 'following orders' is not and never was a real defense as the criminals of Nuremberg came to finally realize. If we don't round up and punish all of the participants they will be back to do it again and then it may be you. I say never again and make a harsh example of these criminals.
11:29 AM on 08/26/2009
Me too HR
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DimBulb2
12:02 PM on 08/26/2009
prosecute those who distorted the rule of law
not those doing their bidding

woo woo needs to be in jail
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09:42 AM on 08/26/2009
The Founding Fathers would prosecute.

Greenwald in Salon writes :

In his 1795 essay, which he entitled Dissertations on First Principles of Government, Thomas Paine wrote this as his last paragraph:
An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.

Can that be any clearer? Of course, Paine also wrote in Common Sense that "so far as we approve of monarchy, that in America the law is king" and "in free countries the law ought to be king; and there ought to be no other." And in his Dissertations, he also wrote:
The executive is not invested with the power of deliberating whether it shall act or not; it has no discretionary authority in the case; for it can act no other thing than what the laws decree, and it is obliged to act conformably thereto. . . .

For anyone who believes in the basic principles of the founding, the fact that these acts of torture are illegal -- felonies -- ought to end the discussion about whether they were justified.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/25/king/index.html
09:29 AM on 08/26/2009
The Constitution of the United States of America is what our nation is all about. It doesn't matter who would rather trade liberty for perceived safety because they are scared. There are enough of us willing to defend it with our lives. This is not the United States of Christians, or the United States of Whites or the United States of Males. Liberty and justice for all. If justice means prosecuting an ex-president because he violated our constitution, so be it. But remember. Innocent until proven guilty.
09:26 AM on 08/26/2009
Half of you people consider the right/center trying to have a meaningful dialogue about health care reform "torture". Shaddup and enjoy your freedom to whine.
09:16 AM on 08/26/2009
holder and obama are cowards for not upholding the law to the greatest extend possible and punish everyone who violated it. they try to apeace the justiably angry citizens who beleive the US is above terrorits tactics and at the same time try not to angry those who like the idea of our officers torturing people. looking forward is a lame excuse for not standing up to those who once were in power and commited allegedly a series of crimes.
12:11 PM on 08/26/2009
How do we move forward? By placing one step in front of another. The perpetrators of such heinous actions WILL be held accountable; it is only a matter of timing. Its not "if" they will, but "when" they will.

We all need to just have patience, this is far from over. There is much more occurring behind the scenes than the mainstream media is reporting or even aware of. Most of the stories presented by corporate controlled media is simply a smoke and mirrors routine designed to keep the average citizen ignorant and uninformed.

For example take the Sibel Edmonds recent deposition; ( More info here: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7347 ) which has received next to no recognition or coverage by the majority of news outlets.

Lets see how long this posting remains available here.
09:04 AM on 08/26/2009
there is no case here - just fruitcake lefties wanting to jump Bush for eating their boys in 2000 & 2004 - get over it and get on with it
09:08 AM on 08/26/2009
agreed.....what is done is done
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thecarf
pragmatic progressive
10:06 AM on 08/26/2009
There is a case here. And to dismiss it is purely and scurrilously political. I won't try to shame you, you are in capable of conscience, based purely on your response. This is about more than labels and it sure as hell is about something more than you or I.

I don't care who does it, these things are not to be tolerated.

Write whatever history you may want but, Bush never had decisive politcal victories. He's as much of a coward as you.