GDP Declines 1 Percent In 2Q, Better Than Expected

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MARTIN CRUTSINGER | 08/27/09 03:29 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — Further evidence the recession is ending came in a report Thursday confirming that the economy shrank at an annual rate of just 1 percent in the spring.

Many analysts say growth likely returned in the current quarter. Smaller dips in consumer spending and other areas during the April-June period led some economists to raise their forecasts for the July-September quarter.

But with unemployment aid claims stubbornly high, Americans may benefit little from a recovery if jobs remain scarce and spending stays too low to fuel a strong rebound.

The Commerce Department estimated that the U.S. gross domestic product, the broadest gauge of economic health, shrank at an annual rate of 1 percent in the second quarter. The new estimate of the nation's output of goods and services was the same as an earlier estimate released last month.

The negative figure marks a record fourth consecutive quarterly decline. But it was far smaller than the nosedive the economy had taken during the previous two quarters.

Businesses did slash inventories at an even greater rate than had been expected in the spring. But economists were encouraged by upward revisions to consumer spending, exports and housing construction. Analysts had expected the second-quarter economic figure to show a drop of 1.5 percent,

"The big surprise in this report was that there was enough spending in the consumer sector and elsewhere to offset all the loss from inventory reductions," said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist at IHS Global Insight.

Consumer spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of total economic activity, fell at an annual rate of 1 percent in second quarter. It was a slight improvement from the 1.2 percent decline reported last month.

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Gault predicted the economy will gain momentum in the current quarter and final three months of this year as businesses switch from trimming stockpiles to rebuilding inventories. He expects the GDP to jump to above 3 percent in the July-September quarter, boosted by the Cash from Clunkers auto program.

Growth likely will remain around 3 percent in the fourth quarter, Gault said. But then it could slip in the first half of next year as the support from inventory rebuilding begins to fade. Consumers, faced with bleak job prospects, won't likely be able to take up the slack, he said.

Unemployment is not expected to peak until next spring, probably somewhere above 10 percent. The jobless rate is now 9.4 percent.

White House economic adviser Christina Romer earlier this week said the unemployment rate is likely to hit 10 percent this year. Economists think the unemployment rate will inch back up to 9.5 percent for August, with 220,000 more jobs lost, down a bit from 247,000 in July. That report is scheduled for release next week.

The 1 percent dip in GDP in the April-June quarter followed declines of 6.4 percent in the first quarter and 5.4 percent in the final three months of 2008, the sharpest back-to-back declines in a half-century. The four straight quarterly declines in GDP mark the first time that has occurred on government records dating to 1947.

The recession that began in December 2007 is the longest since the Great Depression. It's also the deepest as measured by the drop in GDP, which is down 3.9 percent from its previous peak.

Even though economists expect the economy to start growing again in the current quarter, signaling the end of the recession, that won't mean the end of job losses. Businesses likely will continue to keep tight control over labor costs until they see more evidence that the recovery will not falter.

Some analysts worry the country could face a double-dip recession in which growth returns for a while, only to falter again as beleaguered consumers remain reluctant to increase spending.

First-time unemployment claims fell to a seasonally adjusted 570,000, from an upwardly revised 580,000 the previous week, the Labor Department said Thursday. The number of those continuing to claim benefits dropped to 6.13 million from 6.25 million, the lowest level since early April.

The weekly figures remain far above the roughly 325,000 claims that analysts say is consistent with a healthy economy. New claims last fell below 300,000 in early 2007.

Reports released Wednesday showed that new-home sales jumped almost 10 percent from June, while orders for durable goods like appliances, planes and computers rose nearly 5 percent in July. Those increases, however, came from extraordinarily low levels and were fueled by temporary government programs and tax credits for home sales.

On Wall Street, stocks overcame early losses and moved slightly higher in afternoon trading. The Dow Jones industrial average added about 32 points in late-afternoon trading. Broader indices were mixed.

Included in Thursday's report was the first look at corporate profits for the second quarter. The government estimated that profits rose 5.7 percent in the second quarter, the biggest increase since the first quarter of 2005. Analysts said the gain came primarily from widespread layoffs and other attempts to trim costs.

"The corporate cost-cutting led to the solid increase in earnings despite the decline in (economic) growth," said Joel Naroff, chief economist at Naroff Economic Advisers.

The government makes three estimates of the economy's performance for any given quarter. Each new GDP estimate is based on more complete information.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said last week that the economy appeared to be "leveling out" and was likely to begin growing again soon. President Barack Obama appointed Bernanke to another four-year term Tuesday.

WASHINGTON — Further evidence the recession is ending came in a report Thursday confirming that the economy shrank at an annual rate of just 1 percent in the spring. Many analysts say growth li...
WASHINGTON — Further evidence the recession is ending came in a report Thursday confirming that the economy shrank at an annual rate of just 1 percent in the spring. Many analysts say growth li...
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Maybe, it is time to track how many jobs is been created and retained by banks bailout funds in the United States, numbers and dollars amount of refinances/modification from bailout funds, put all loan officers or employees on salary to reduce the high pricing of loans, and governent should use an alternate channel of deployig bailout funds for housing and micro loan funds etc.

In addition, to unionized the employees in the mortgage banking industries. This will give them the ability to vioce out their opinion about the ineffective and inefficient methods of deploying Economic Recovery bail-out funds!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 08/27/2009
- Overtone I'm a Fan of Overtone 25 fans permalink

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 08/27/2009

""Look at the GDP""
I dont trust the people that measure it.
The 1% down could be 3% down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 08/27/2009

The old smoke and mirrors trick coming from the fake news once again. The last bit of news meant to shock us was the projected number of deaths associated with swine flu in this country. Unlike government reported stats, the CDC reported considerably less projected deaths associated with swine flu. Furthermore, Tamiflu is contraindicated for swine flu [due to the severe side effects] unless those who have already contracted it are in high risk groups. Super bad news for those politicians and the rich who heavily invested in Roche stock.

The lowered unemployment rate is just a camouflage -- this only means a huge number of people have already exhausted their benefits or emergency extension funding. The unemployment percentage rate only represents those who are actually receiving unemployment benefits for accountability. There is no accountability for any other unemployment scenario. The news can crunch numbers to mean anything they want it to mean to fool the public -- the process of (non-transparent) metrics. Heavily research and check it out for yourself. We're being lied to yet once again and we're not all a nation of sheep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 08/27/2009

Air67

""If things are so bad, how come the malls are full in the northeast US?""
Strip malls are 1/3 - 2/3 many malls in NH have vacancies.

Main street has more open storefronts than ever before.
More open office space than ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 08/27/2009

I dont trust "THEM" to measure the GDP right either.

The strip mall crash is coming.
More banks are using up their FDIC funds.
And as the commercial loans go bad they will have less money coming in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 08/27/2009
- zipowitz I'm a Fan of zipowitz 39 fans permalink

What a red herring, great our GDP SHRANK less than previous quarters. Isn't that great news!! But what we missed is that yesterday they projected 2 TRILLION more over the already projected $7 Trillion dollars of new ebt we will incur in the next 10 years. On top of that they are projecting 2 million more job losses. This country is tanking and this administration is FAILING MISERABLY at doing anything about it. The stimulus is a joke that kicks in next year. I'm sure those on the unemployment lines can wait for a few more years for THEIR tax money to kick in. It's sickening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 08/27/2009
- flatus I'm a Fan of flatus 37 fans permalink
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Where were you when Bush installed his trillion dollar tax cut for the super wealthy?

You can not turn an oil tanker on a dime. This economy works the same way. Show the same patience you gave to our former "president" while he was conducting and unnecessary and very expensive war in Iraq.

Cheers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 08/27/2009
- zipowitz I'm a Fan of zipowitz 39 fans permalink

I was complaining just as you were or should have been. Just because Obama is in there now doesn't make it better or OK.

$800 Billion on a stimulus that is mostly set to kick in next year? You think that's OK when a simple $3 Billion cash for clunkers makes a quick stimulus and is "wildly" successful. How dumb are the people that are running/ruining this country?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 08/27/2009
- rwe2late I'm a Fan of rwe2late 45 fans permalink

No one is saying everything should be fixed already.

The point is that Obama is CONTINUING the same basic policies of war and corporate welfare that have brought to where we are now.

Your simple-minded comment about turning on a dime is worthy only to an Obamabot cheerleader.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 08/27/2009
- cowtippor I'm a Fan of cowtippor 20 fans permalink

ya, imagine the awesome effect of tax cuts for the unemployed. now that's the ticket to a swift economic recovery!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 08/27/2009
- edwoodjr I'm a Fan of edwoodjr 10 fans permalink
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Sounds like crooked Wall Street to me - "beat expectations" and stock goes up even though profits are actually in the RED. New scam, purposely underforecast results by 40%+ and every results period will boost your stiock price.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 08/27/2009
- steveRB I'm a Fan of steveRB 4 fans permalink

if that's the game, play to your advantage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 08/27/2009

When unemployment numbers decline, will it be because the time limit ran out or because people actually found jobs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 08/27/2009
- redhead61 I'm a Fan of redhead61 69 fans permalink
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Because they have ran out of unemployment. There is nothing that can track those who have ran out and are still unemployed that I know of. What they are keeping track of is actually just smoke screen from how big the problems really are..Its only going to get worse as fall turns into winter because all of those employees' who had temp seasonal jobs will not be able to find employment for winter and will have ran out of benefits from this past year having not been employed long enough in the seasonal work to build up their unemployment again to rely upon.
Its going to get far scarier because this will tumble into homelessness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 08/27/2009
- kburlz I'm a Fan of kburlz 23 fans permalink

True, but it's the same formula they have always used to calculate unemployment, so placed in historical context it's an adequate indicator of where we are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 08/27/2009

If things are so bad, how come the malls are full in the northeast US?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 08/27/2009

These are all trumped up numbers, manipulated to make Obama look lees bad than he is. What a joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 08/27/2009

We wouldn't be in the crisis we are in without republicans selling out the country with free trade, moving factories overseas, lowering wages, and spending like there is no tomorrow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 08/27/2009
- Neonmoon I'm a Fan of Neonmoon 2 fans permalink

Excuse me, that would be Clinton and the Democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 08/27/2009
- redhead61 I'm a Fan of redhead61 69 fans permalink
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Harold, Obama didnt create this mess. You fully well know that GWB left Obama a total mess and we were already long into a recession. What did GWB do to keep us from this crisis? He was all too willing to not lift a finger in his final months, instead of jumping in and leaving a legacy that started this country back on the right track he kept silent, lived his own private life as a lame duck and let this country sink further into recession.

Your ability to conveniently forget the past does not make the history of what happened go away. We all know WHY we are here at this point. We also know that it was not Obama who brought this country to its knees...it was GWB and his cronies etc.

So snap outta your delusion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 08/27/2009
- zipowitz I'm a Fan of zipowitz 39 fans permalink

Fine, stick with the company line that Obama didn't create this mess but you need to "snap outta your delusion" as we look forward. The administration is predicting $9 TRILLION more in debt over the next 10 years skyrocketing us to $21 TRILLION DOLLARS!!! And they just said 2 million more job losses are predicted.

So fine, bash Bush all you want, you seem to relish in it. But DO NOT give Obama a pass on the path he is taking us on. By 2030 we will spend 2/3rds of all tax revenue to just pay the interest on our debt. That alone should scare the heck out of you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 08/27/2009
- rwe2late I'm a Fan of rwe2late 45 fans permalink

Obama may not have created the mess, but

Obama is doing nothing to correct it, and everything to worsen it.

Bailouts for bad bankster gambling debts, expanded wars, continued occupations, and increased military spending, support for military coups in Latin America, perpetuation of the phoney war on drugs, collusion with the pharma-medical industry, public subsidies misdirected to wasteful real estate practices ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 08/27/2009

Only a fool believes that you can have a recovering economy while unemployment continues to rise. It's like believing we can spend our way out of debt.

Wishing won't make it true.

Fair Tax anyone? Term-limits for Congress anyone? Real health care reform without a public option anyone? Eliminating welfare for endless illegals that cross our borders anyone? Decriminalizing drugs anyone? Bringing all of our troops home from everywhere anyone?

Those 5 things will turn our economy around in a year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 08/27/2009
- rwe2late I'm a Fan of rwe2late 45 fans permalink

You actually listed 6 things.
The last two I fully agree with you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 08/27/2009

I meant choose any 5 out of the 6 and our economy will turn in a year.

No, actually I mis-counted. Thanks for pointing it out.

You really need to investigate the Fair Tax by getting both sides of the argument. You can't possibly tell me that our current system is fine.

We are importing the poverty of millions of illegals and now millions of Americans are falling into poverty while a few that exploit their labor are getting rich off the taxpayer subsidizing their cheap labor. We should take all the illegals, put them in training camps, arm them, send them back to their countries to take over their corrupt government. It would be cheaper and eventually end them sneaking into our country for opportunity that their government won't provide for them.

Health care reform needs legislation that will create massive competition, ends over-regulation that drive cost up unnecessarily, tort reform and transparency that requires doctors and hospitals to list their prices before one makes an appointment for treatment.
I've always wanted to know why it cost $20.00 for a nurse to give a patient one Tylenol. Couldn't I or my family provide it for cheaper?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 08/28/2009
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what is your problem with the public-option, won't this help bring down cost. Have you been smoking something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 08/27/2009
- zipowitz I'm a Fan of zipowitz 39 fans permalink

The health care that the CBO says will COST us another $1.5 TRILLION. That's not a savings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 08/27/2009
- kburlz I'm a Fan of kburlz 23 fans permalink

I don't get why people want term limits for congress. Would you have wanted Ed Kennedy to retire 15 years ago? If you don't like them, vote them out. I don't even think there should be term limits for Presidents. The only reason there is is that Repubs were jealous of FDR's sucess. I would have prefered a 3rd Clinton term over a first Bush, or even first Gore term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 08/27/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 185 fans permalink
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Yes great news only 570,000 people lost their jobs last month, isn't that great we should all be celebrating in the streets..!

Wake up America...time to shake off the ether from our last wasted election..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 08/27/2009
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Oh, you must mean the previous election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 08/27/2009

How come everyone is shopping, I am seeing malls filled to capacity

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 08/27/2009
- masanf I'm a Fan of masanf 22 fans permalink

Man that stimulus sure is working wonders. The CBO states that unemployment will be at an average of 10.2% next year and even the White House states it will be an average of 9.8% next year with a peak of over 10%. And with the Obama deficits now over $9 Trillion, it appears he is doing a real bang-up job with the economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 08/27/2009
- Sam1234567 I'm a Fan of Sam1234567 8 fans permalink

And the 2.3 million who were completely eliminated from the workforce that are not even included in the numbers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 08/27/2009

The money Pres. Obama has spent is pennies in the bucket compared to what was wasted by republicans over the past 8 years. Lets not forget, he inherited the mess, he did not create it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 08/27/2009
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I agree, there were warning long before Obama came to office, but no one complained then. The "Great Depression" didn't start when FDR took office, it took him 10 years and a war for him to get us out that. Although I know its no constillation for anyone without a job, but as it was back then "keep the faith", and before you know it this nightmare which was caused by the past, (well I'll go back 30 years, to the Reagan era with Reaganomics, but clinton made serious mistakes too) will soon be over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 08/27/2009
- zipowitz I'm a Fan of zipowitz 39 fans permalink

Way of point, you want to point to the past but completely ignore where Obama is taking us. Sure blame Bush for a lot of it but DO NOT give Obama a pass on where we are headed as he is driving this ship. $9 MORE TRILLION OF DEBT is INSANE!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 08/27/2009
- cowtippor I'm a Fan of cowtippor 20 fans permalink

are you posting this while standing in a bread line?

ya, didn't think so. go talk to some people who survived the great depression and then go take a look around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 08/27/2009
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Bravo! Bravo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 08/27/2009
- zipowitz I'm a Fan of zipowitz 39 fans permalink

So all is still OK as long as we aren't in bread lines? Are you kidding? Sure we have it better but you think we should somehow think it's OK? Go ahead O, spend Trillions that we don't have and as long as we aren't in bread lines then everything is OK. Nice line of thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 08/27/2009
- masanf I'm a Fan of masanf 22 fans permalink

"Give me one honest example of why Capitalism is better than Socialism."

You have got to be kidding, right? I will answer that question with a question. Name me one country where socialism has been a success. You cannot name even one country that calls itself socialist that has economic growth even close to that of the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 08/27/2009
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China. Super socialist, in fact it's communist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 08/27/2009
- kburlz I'm a Fan of kburlz 23 fans permalink

It's easy for you cynical financial know-nothings who are rooting for Obama's failure to poo poo on positive economic news. Economics is all about trends and expectations. The expectation in January was a pending depression. The actions taken by the gov't, although unpopular, saved us from that scenerio. Look at the GDP, geniuses. We were headed into the abyss, and even though it's still negative, the turn around is dramatic. It always takes a while for employment to catch up to the rest of the economy, but the trends have turned for the better. You guys would be just as cynical even if unemployment was at 15% and and the DOW was at 4000, which easily could have happened.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 08/27/2009
- rwe2late I'm a Fan of rwe2late 45 fans permalink

Another "abyss" man. avoid repition, see my previous reply to dutchman.

As for "rooting", if anyone is doing any rooting, it is the Obama cheerleaders.
Frankly, I wish Obama had brought some real change.
But he hasn't!
The sooner that Obamabots realize there has been a 'bait and switch', the better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 08/27/2009
- kburlz I'm a Fan of kburlz 23 fans permalink

You're right. I should have read every comment on the page and made sure I didn't use any of the same words anybody else did. I didn't realize I did that. Oops, I did it again, you already said "realize."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 08/27/2009
- redhead61 I'm a Fan of redhead61 69 fans permalink
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Obama cannot usher in total changes in eight months time...He HAS created changes..but just as many things have to be in tandem with congress helping to usher that change in. GOP is stifling change and why do you think they have the nickname Party of NO??

Many policies have been reversed..and people have been helped and law enacting to protect the people since Obama has came into the White House, but you want to negate that. I think you need to fact check what he has done so far.
Health care reform is something that will take congress to vote on and there will have to be consensus. Obama cannot make this law without congress.
In any case, you have negated that Obama has done NOTHING he has promised and this is flat out a lie.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/?page=2

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 AM on 08/29/2009

We should not believe these numbers. Bush did a hatchet job on the way these things are calculated so that unemployment as we measure it today has almost no relationshipt to the eway is was measured in the 1990s and same with GDP and even housing numbers. The real issue here is that we should all stop getting our information from the Associated Press. They never pick abnythiong up that has actual journalism involved.

The Depression we are in is vastly deeper than the mainstream media gererally portray.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 08/27/2009
- CRUMBOWSKI I'm a Fan of CRUMBOWSKI 19 fans permalink

I agree with you 100%...

Deceptive Statistical Practices...were..as insane as it seems..actual..paper trails to prove it..."POLICY" for the BushII W.H. and...sadly...looks to be continued by Obama..

Concealing Lurking Variables...Using Biased Samples..Focusing On Rare Events...REPORTING HANDPICKED DATA...Extrapolating Trends UNREALISTICALLY....and...Confusing Correlation with Causation...

Those are Particular Favorites..oldies but goldies..of the FORMER "4th Estate"..now an offical defacto Corporate 5th Column...

I mean..its Sooo..simple it defies reason..Less Jobs overall..means LOWER numbers..Over All...if you take 100 people..90 of em are jobless..then you lok at the remaining 10..and say.."garsh..only ONE of these people is without a Job THIS MONTH.." then you run to the "Media" and you tell em..'We had only 1 unemployment claim this month...DOWN from 90...a month ago..."

Well..GEE WHIZ..we must be on EASY STREET AGAIN! Hallaluja! Leave it to "EX" Goldman Sachs Pig Men to play THAT game..after all.."Numbers" is their RACKET!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 08/27/2009
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