Lamont On Lieberman: He's Echoing GOP's Health Care Talking Points

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First Posted: 08-27-09 04:09 PM   |   Updated: 08-27-09 05:22 PM

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Nine months after the Democratic leadership voted to allow Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) to retain his chairmanship of a key committee and continue caucusing with the party, the Connecticut Independent continues to rankle progressives.

Democrats who expected the Senator to tussle with President Barack Obama on foreign policy matters have watched with a mix of irritation and horror as the two have butted heads on the year's key domestic item instead.

"He is playing right into the Republican talking points" on health care, said Ned Lamont, the Connecticut Democrat who defeated Lieberman in the 2006 Democratic Senate primary, but lost to him in the general election after Lieberman ran as an independent.

"I don't think Republicans have any interest in a good bill or a bad bill. I just don't think they want Obama to move the agenda forward on health care. And it just so happens that yet again Senator Lieberman is playing into all the Republican talking points and it can fundamentally jeopardize another generational opportunity to change how we deliver health care in our country."

Lieberman hasn't shied away from expressing concerns about the policy specifics of Obama's agenda. His opposition to a public option for insurance coverage, for instance, has been known for several months.

But the Senator took the criticism to a new level this past Sunday, when he urged the White House to consider passing three quarters of the reform package while saving the rest for better economic times. He also spoke out against the use of reconciliation, which would allow the passage of legislation with 50 votes.

"It's frustrating and of course disappointing," said Karen Finney, a Democratic strategist and confidant of former DNC Chair Howard Dean. "Guaranteed healthcare for every American is a core Democratic Party value. As a Democratic Party Vice Presidential nominee he made a promise to our country to fight for those values. So he of all people should be working to help pass real reform. In fact, he should be leading the charge."

The totality of Lieberman's health care critiques has been enough to spur some in the party to re-examine the decision to allow the Senator to remain a caucusing member. Following the 2008 presidential elections, in which Lieberman campaigned for Sen. John McCain, (R-Ariz.) and took several harsh swipes at Obama's readiness for office, Senate Democrats took a vote that was ostensibly to decide whether or not to boot the Senator from their ranks. Lieberman was threatening to caucus independently or with the Republicans if he was stripped of his chairmanship of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

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Holding on to hopes of a 60-seat majority in the chamber, Democrats decided to keep their long-time colleague atop the committee. Implicit in the deal, however, was that Lieberman would be a semi-reliable member of the party.

Lieberman's office did not return a request for comment. But allies of the Senator note that other Democrats share his concerns about the scope of health care reform. Longtime Clinton adviser Paul Begala and House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, (D-S.C.) have both urged the party to be comfortable with incremental improvements, as have a large swath of Blue Dogs in the House. Moreover, they say, Lieberman's concerns about the pace of the reform process aren't unique to this attempt at an overhaul. Indeed, the role the Senator is playing today is similar to the one he played during Bill Clinton's attempt at revamping the health care system in the early 90s.

"He has been very consistent in trying to seek innovative approaches to try and get to universal health care coverage," Dan Gerstein, a former Lieberman aide, told the Huffington Post in early July. "When he was part of the '00 ticket, he supported Al Gore's step-by-step approach to getting health care reform, which at the time many progressives were very supportive of. This is not a debate about goals for him. This is a debate about means, both in terms of what makes sense on a policy basis and what is obtainable."

Not everyone, however, sees Lieberman's consistency as laudable or constructive. There is a short window of time in which to get health care passed, they argue, and foot-dragging in the name of caution is simply counter-productive.

"In our campaign, everybody thought it was about the war. But health care was such a vibrant issue in Connecticut," recalled Lamont. "Joe had been there for 18 years and never really weighed in. And I find that in politics when you want to kill a good idea you don't oppose it on the merits, you just study it to death. And I find that Joe is playing into all the Republican talking points, smiling and saying 'I like Barack Obama,' and 'I support health care reform but it is too fast and too soon and we have to study it to death.'

What prevents more elected Democrats from echoing Lamont's remarks, in the end, is the fact that - despite all the counterproductive rhetoric - Lieberman remains a critical vote. As one party strategist put it, "we really need Lieberman, particularly in light of Senator Kennedy's death and Senator Byrd's health."

According to Democracy for America, the campaign arm left over from Howard Dean's 2004 run at the White House, there are 45 votes in the Senate in favor of a public option and 15 votes that are considered a "maybe." Lieberman is considered a no vote, currently. But Democrats on the Hill hold out hope that he could be persuaded to support cloture -- or even the provision itself -- if it came to a vote.

"I think it will be a sad day for Connecticut, if Sen. Lieberman follows through on his threat to vote against the choice of a public option," said Charles Chamberlain, political director for DFA. "Hundreds of people in Connecticut lose their insurance everyday and thousands more are at risk each day we wait for Congress to pass real reform."

Nine months after the Democratic leadership voted to allow Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) to retain his chairmanship of a key committee and continue caucusing with the party, the Connecticut Independ...
Nine months after the Democratic leadership voted to allow Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) to retain his chairmanship of a key committee and continue caucusing with the party, the Connecticut Independ...
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Forget healthcare -- Attack processed food industry

The processed food industry gives the average American a 50% fat diet, and in so doing cause over 90% of illness. Surely there is no way to reduce healthcare costs until we attack the root cause of all that fat clogging up our veins, heart, capillaries and thinking part of the brain.

REWARD: At the end of each year give those with no medical expenses a $2,000 reward. Goal being to cut in half the $8,000 a year we give to the medical industry for every man, woman and child in America.

PENALTY: Those with a diet of more then 25% fat must pay all medical expenses until their wealth is gone. For you have the freedom to enrich yourself upon rich food, and I have the freedom to not be made miserable by it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 08/30/2009
- veracity I'm a Fan of veracity 83 fans permalink

Joe Lieberman's 2006 senate (re-) election victory was based on PURE DECEIT: he MARKETED himself to uninformed and gullible Connecticut voters as an "ANTI-WAR MODERATE DEMOCRAT" (after losing the Democratic primary election to Ned Lamont, Lieberman therafter being FORCED to "run to the left" to retain previous elections' Dem voters)...

...but needless to say, THE MOMENT that Leiberman had his Senate win under his belt, HE REVERTED TO A RIGHT-WING LIKUDNIK War-MONGERING Republcan, so much that he CAMPAIGNED WITH Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

It is ONLY because the NY TIMES, WASHINGTON POST, TIME/Warner/CNN, Murdochs' minions (FOX 'news'), and other "Big Media" outlets are IN LEAGUE with with Right-Wing WARS FOREVER agenda, that Leiberman GETS AWAY WITH HIS DECIET...

a PRO-WARS and TAX-CUTS FOR RICH __DECIET__ now shared by the EMANUEL/Gooddamn-Sachs/Obama White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 08/28/2009
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Surely, as capitalism is the freedom to compete for excessive wealth, and functions most profitably when things are geared toward quick profit. Destroy Iraq quick, get their oil quick and stick you profit in off shore banking quick. For a bubble and burst economy, now that is perfection in capitalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 08/30/2009

Prostitutes have more moral authority than JL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 08/28/2009
- LiberalLee I'm a Fan of LiberalLee 149 fans permalink

And are at least honest about what they are and what they do.
Probably give better value for the $$ too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 08/28/2009
- LiberalLee I'm a Fan of LiberalLee 149 fans permalink

As A CT voter all I can say about Joe Lieberman is, " I'm sorry, but I didn't vote for him."
The man's a disgraceful power hog. When we voted him out in the primary, he turned up the heat on his Republican friends in southwest CT ( ie: Greenwich, Stamford---the rich NYC crowd) to pony up the $$ and get him elected again.
He's shamefully endorsed anything and anyone just to cling to his political power.
He ought to get the boot.
And stop pretending to be a Democrat or an Independent.
We know exactly what you are Joe, and your Repubber buddies do too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 08/28/2009
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Are there any good - or even not so good - reasons for a recall election for Lieberman?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 08/28/2009
- LiberalLee I'm a Fan of LiberalLee 149 fans permalink

Lots, but annoyingly enough, CT doesn't have a recall mechanism in its constitution, so it's a moot point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 08/28/2009

Yes, you can always hope Leiberman will vote or act like a Democrat... if you are Charlie Brown and you enjoy having Lucy pull the ball away at the last second.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 08/28/2009
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 211 fans permalink
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Why is the media forcing us to listen to what this man has to say? Lieberman has shown his true political colors over the past several years. He's no Democrat. He has, for all intensive purposes, been ostracized from any meaningful role within the Democratic party, and for good reason. Why does the media continue to put people front and center when, based upon their past actions and beliefs, they should be ignored...people like Tom Delay, Joe Lieberman, Joe the Plumber, and Sarah Palin to name a few? These are all marginal players who speak for only a small minority and yet their voices are continuously magnified by a mainstream media that apparently doesn't have our best interests at heart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 08/28/2009
- outlandish I'm a Fan of outlandish 38 fans permalink
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The media came around to your house and forced you you can either read it or not it has always been your choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 08/28/2009
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 211 fans permalink
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Not when the media determines my choices. Yes, I can choose not to listen to the media, period. But then I would miss out on news that is germane and relevant, wouldn't I?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 08/28/2009
- writerroz I'm a Fan of writerroz 14 fans permalink
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Lieberman proved his color when he accepted the Democrat's pass and then preceded to work for the Republicans. I hope he gets his payback and all that he deserves unless he finds his conscience and decides it is best to work with the Democrats because he is beholden to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 08/29/2009

He won't. He's too busy whoring himself out to the insurance industry and the military-industrial complex.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 08/29/2009

Please Mr. Lamont, Shut Up. You won the Democratic Senatorial nomination in a Blue State and had your clock cleaned in the general election. Sen. Lieberman whom you defeated in the primary received in a three way race a bit over 50% of the statewide vote. Why should we listen to such a failed supposed politician. To all you Huffniks, I live in Ct. and every statewide poll (Hartford Courant, [Quinniapac, if mis-spelled please excuse] shows that as of today Lieberman would win once again. Yes, he supported the Iraq war but in just about every other case he has voted the straight Democratic positions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 08/28/2009
- Opus007 I'm a Fan of Opus007 17 fans permalink

I live in CT too. Lieberman would not win re- election. You are dreaming!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 08/28/2009

"but in just about every other case he has voted the straight Democratic positions" LOL. You mean when he wasn't campaigning for John McCain in the Presidential election, and making defamatory statements against all the Democratic candidates? And the article itself shows that he is opposing the key Democratic initiative -- health care reform.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 08/28/2009
- Tackora I'm a Fan of Tackora 11 fans permalink

Bush was reelected too. It does not mean the people were not dimwitted who voted for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 08/28/2009

Bush stole Ohio. He was more secretive about it than Florida. See, in FL it was the rioting goons that slowed the recount. In OH, Diebold fixed the vote so there would be no recount. Exit polls showed a solid Kerry victory in OH, but many who voted dem in that state had their votes switched by a computer program. He who counts the votes, wins the elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 08/29/2009

Pure name recognition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 08/29/2009
- outlandish I'm a Fan of outlandish 38 fans permalink
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he is Lucy to the Dems Charlie brown, appology accepted Lucy. So kick the football Charlie. Appology accepted Lucy so kick the and on an on and on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 08/28/2009

Oops, I used the same analogy before I read your post. Great minds think alike.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 08/28/2009
- Buster41 I'm a Fan of Buster41 5 fans permalink

I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THERE ARE FEW REAL MEN AMONG DEMOCRATS. MOST OF MY OPINION WAS FORMED FROM OBSERVING WHAT IS KNOWN AS A MISSISSIPPI DEMOCRAT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 08/28/2009

He's always been there for all the people who can't find the CAPS LOCK key on their computer!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 08/28/2009
- writerroz I'm a Fan of writerroz 14 fans permalink
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Just where do you get your information? Knowing a Mississippi Democrat does not ensure that you know the rest of them, and it definitely appears that you don't. For instance, Ted Kennedy as an example. Could it be too much Limbaugh, because evidently you don't know what you're talking about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 08/29/2009
- Buster41 I'm a Fan of Buster41 5 fans permalink

I'M ALL FOR FORMING A FREE-STANDING PROGRESSIVE PARTY WITHOUT DEMOCRAT ATTACHED TO IT. THEN LIEBERMAN AND THE BLUE DOGS WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN LITTLE PARTY TO DESTROY. TO HELL WITH THEM!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 08/28/2009
- outlandish I'm a Fan of outlandish 38 fans permalink
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Joe and the Republcans have joined forces and become the axis of weasels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 08/28/2009
- LiberalLee I'm a Fan of LiberalLee 149 fans permalink

Good one! I loathe that pious, cowardly, back-stabbing chicken hawk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 08/28/2009
- judesuper I'm a Fan of judesuper 30 fans permalink
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Funny! And true!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 08/28/2009

Hilarious. Fanned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 08/29/2009
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TIME for him to GO..... http://liebermanmustgo.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 08/28/2009
- Arrecho I'm a Fan of Arrecho 63 fans permalink
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Thank you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 08/28/2009
- truegreen I'm a Fan of truegreen 25 fans permalink

Kevenseven,

Are u blind? we know see 60 seats don't mean anything to democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 08/28/2009
- Lolasmom I'm a Fan of Lolasmom 9 fans permalink
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YES- it is time to vote him out CT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 08/28/2009
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IT IS WAY PAST TIME for him to go! What He did was unbelievable and now at this critical stage he is doing it again! TIME for him to GO..... http://liebermanmustgo.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 08/28/2009
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