Cheney In 2012? Some Key GOPers Aren't Kidding

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First Posted: 09- 1-09 10:15 AM   |   Updated: 10-17-09 05:12 AM

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At first, it seemed like a joke. Wall Street Journal columnist James Taranto opined on Monday that -- if the 2012 election were to turn to national security -- "it's hard to think of a better candidate... than Richard B. Cheney."

But while his headline -- "Cheney for President" -- provoked guffaws in some quarters, several of the party's most well-regarded strategists and pollsters are actually taking the idea deadly seriously.

"The Republican Party needs to move forward and build on its past, not return to it," Alex Castellanos, a frequent CNN analyst and GOP messaging guru, told the Huffington Post via email. "But if the agenda turns to security, Obama is mired in a no-win mess in Afghanistan, and the Obama administration hasn't created a single job in four years after indebting the nation for generations, maybe Dick Cheney could run on a theme of 'Change'."

Asked whether it would be "rich" for a former vice president with four decades of service in D.C. to run on a change platform, Castellanos replied. "Republicans running on a change platform, after Obama, would not be rich. Change might mean 'responsibility and real growth'."

Longtime pollster and GOP operative John McLaughlin also said he sees an opening for a Cheney candidacy premised on a hypothetical national security failure from the current White House.

A Cheney nomination "would be a serious consideration because he really has been a defender of policies that the majority of people now think are successful," McLaughlin told the Huffington Post. "Although right now a lot of people are focused on the economy, if there ever was some sort of foreign policy crisis people will look to Dick Cheney and say he had it right."

Pointing to Cheney's strong favorability rating among Republicans (66 percent in a May 2009 poll compared to Colin Powell's 64 percent), McLaughlin also noted that the former vice president has a strong political platform from which to test the electoral waters.

"Right now he is writing a book, and I'm sure it will be very interesting to see how that book positions him," McLaughlin said. "I always thought that Senator [Hillary] Clinton's book positioned her for a run for the White House and I think it could be the same way with Dick Cheney."

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Craig Shirley, a longtime Republican strategist who often has his finger on the pulse of the party's base, concurred while also noting that Cheney can galvanize conservatives in ways few other current figures can.

"In 2009, there are few absurdities left in American politics," he told the Huffington Post, via email. "Anything is possible and the mere fact that Cheney's name is being floated accomplishes several things including striking fear in the heart of President Obama, especially in light of the crumbing American position in Afghanistan, which could become Obama's Vietnam.

"It also gives aid and comfort to a still battered Republican Party as he is the only GOP leader besides [Newt] Gingrich uncowed by the dominate liberal elites manning the batteries in the nation's capital," Shirley wrote. "They are about the only two politicians on the right who are willing to make a fight of it."

Indeed one reason to take the Cheney-for-president idea seriously is that there is simply no one else to whom the GOP can turn. "He's got bite behind his bark which can't be said of all GOP contenders," said a former Republican leadership staffer. "He's certainly more effective at this point than [RNC Chairman] Michael Steele."

Of course, speculating about a Cheney presidency is ludicrous for many reasons. For starters, it's three years and several months until the general election. Moreover, the former vice president's age and health remain a major issue (as they did when he was picked to be VP nine years ago). And then there's the matter of his resume.

Obama won in large part by running against the Bush/Cheney record, which includes taking the country into a widely unpopular war based on nonexistent weapons of mass destruction, sinking the economy, and diminishing the country's moral stature. Cheney can't exactly distance himself from these things. If anything, he is widely considered to have been the power behind the throne. And his current cause celebre -- the use of torture on terrorist suspects -- makes him a lightning rod among independents and Democrats, even if it polls surprisingly well among Republicans.

For the record, Cheney has expressed no interest in being president, repeatedly ruling out another run for office.

Nevertheless, it's "not absurd" to consider him running for the White House, said David Frum, a former Bush adviser and current fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. "He was vice president after all and if he were seriously interested he could be a candidate for sure. But seriously interested people build organizations, and it does not look as if he's doing that."

Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform and a serious critic of Cheney's foreign policy ventures, agreed with Frum.

"Right now there is a zone that is free to play in and that is discussing who should run in 2012," he told the Huffington Post. "Because the only thing that matters for Republicans politically is 2010. Anything Cheney does other than raising money for congressional and senate candidates is a way of time and money or self-absorbed silliness."

And yet, the mere fact that Cheney's name is being mentioned for 2012 by a wide range of highly reputed conservatives provides a window into the current mindset of the Republican Party - so wedded to the posture of national security strength that it would consider turning to someone with such obvious political flaws, not to mention another aging white male.

"The Republican Party today consists of people who are conservative, religious, white and predominantly male," said Stephen Wayne, a political science professor at Georgetown University. "And, you know, if those are the only people who participate and you don't have a lot of other very conservative candidates it is conceivable Cheney could win the Republican nomination. But I don't think it is likely."


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At first, it seemed like a joke. Wall Street Journal columnist James Taranto opined on Monday that -- if the 2012 election were to turn to national security -- "it's hard to think of a better candidat...
At first, it seemed like a joke. Wall Street Journal columnist James Taranto opined on Monday that -- if the 2012 election were to turn to national security -- "it's hard to think of a better candidat...
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PERFECT...just... perfect... if he makes President of course he'll buy up all those empty cargo containers sitting in our ports first... those will be saved for anyone who doesn't agree with him... on any issues...like starting three or four more wars to bleed off the nation of it's youth and future... he'll just lock up any dissenters for a few days without food or water... or maybe... WITH water... waterboarding that is...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 10/07/2009
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don't worry he'll never pass the physical...
or the mental...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 09/28/2009

That won't work --- about half the people we ALREADY have in Congress and the Senate couldn't pass the physical... and they all seem to lose their mental abilities to think outside the box once the are inside it...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 10/07/2009
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He already served 2 terms as president.

'w' was a mere puppet.

Beside, America deserves a speedy trial for this monster. (With happy ending)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 09/04/2009
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As you so begrudgingly stated, Dick Cheney is being considered as a viable candidate for the Presidency in 3+ years - by respected Republican strategists and pollsters. This is a man who has served this nation for four decades and whenever he speaks - I listen. Question: who gives you a greater sense of securing regarding the threats that face this nation when you hear either of them speak - Dick Cheney or Barack Obama?

Dick Cheney is a lion. He means what he says and says what he means - having said that, I don't think he is electable because of the undeserved baggage he carries. For myself, I'd vote for him in a minute.
Many Americans are just fed up with this young President's game of Russian Roulette he continues to play with their lives. They aren't going to take it much longer!
Attila Honey
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 09/03/2009
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As you so begrudgingly state, Dick Cheney is being discussed by well regarded strategists and pollsters regarding Dick Cheney as a Presidential nominee in three years +. Of course, this is the fodder for late night television but here is the question I would ask people regarding national security and all the many threats facing our country today: Who gives you a greater sense of security when hearing them speak? Dick Cheney or Barack Obama? This is a man who has served this nation for 4 decades. Whereas President Obama has his tail in a crack and is having a difficult time finding resolution. A large percentage of the American people are genuinely fed up with his lack of clarity where their lives are concerned....and his 'Gotcha Grin.'

Personally, I would vote for Cheny in a hot shot - but I think he's carries too much undeserved luggage to be elected. We need a candidate who is a lion in thought, word and deed who boldly addresses the issues of this world we live in.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 09/03/2009
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"CHENEY FOR PRESIDENT: When you're tired of choosing the LESSER of two Evils!"

WTF are they smokin'?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 09/03/2009
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That's right. Pick the GREATEST Evil this country has ever known in politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 09/04/2009
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God, save us!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 09/02/2009
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I LOVE IT. Cheney/Palin or Cheney/Bachmann - That's the TICKET TO VICTORY (for Obama).

66% of Repulicans give him a favorable rating? That's almost as scary as his aim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 09/02/2009
- SonnyDee I'm a Fan of SonnyDee 2 fans permalink
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No crap. That is horrifying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 09/04/2009

Chenny in 2012? Chenny/bush, Obama/biden. We have lived our lives under the good ald boys both dem/Rep and we have a mess, so why not give the girls a chance? By the evidence they couldn't do any worse, nobody could. Next time give us a choice, Hillery, and Palin. may the best girl win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 09/02/2009
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Hillary would rip Palin's brain through her arse in any debate about anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 09/04/2009

Whatever happened to Justice in America?

What happened to the Bill of Rights?

How come this man Cheney is walking free snarling and snearing at the world around him?

Why hasn't he been tried for CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY?

Why has he and his ex boss Bush not been tried for HIGH CRIMES AND TREASON?

This man Cheney and his pals committed both types of crime. These guys and the administration people who supported there every move are FELONS! Treasonous Felons!

Anybody know the answer to this simple question?

Or has the nation just walked away from truth and justice for the rich and powerful?

I just wonder why President Obama has run away so hard from taking the required steps to put this criminal in jail and on trial? He doesn't even need to put this before the courts in the U.S., send these monsters to stand trial before the World Courts in Europe. Obamas hands are then clean, the traitors are being tried and will be found guilty of at Least Crimes against Humanity and other forms of war crimes (Torture).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 09/02/2009
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This is not well-known. Former VP Dick Cheney has held secret meetings at undisclosed locations with Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi on the subjects of cosmetic surgery, Mussolini redux, vaulting ambition, and aging gracelessly.

They discussed imperial cruelty with considerable fervor but did not discuss sex--a Berlu specialty--because Cheney is done with all that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 09/02/2009

HEAVEN FORBID!!!! CHENEY AND PALIN ARE MY NIGHTMARE TICKET!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 09/02/2009
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Can you run a campaign hiding in a bunker in an undisclosed location?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 09/02/2009
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I'm all for it. He has the best sneer since Clint Eastwood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 09/02/2009

Agreed. I can't stop laughing because there are fools that actually vote for Cheney/Palin. I am still trying to digest how these fools voted for Palin. His entire life has been based on quitting....maybe they are quitters to. McCain and Cheney both need to go home and never be heard of again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 09/02/2009

This spin.less fellow's heart is operated with a battery! Are you kidding me? No way he can be president just because of that fact alone!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 AM on 09/02/2009
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