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New International Version Bible To Undergo Revision

ERIC GORSKI   09/ 1/09 11:29 PM ET   AP

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The top-selling Bible in North America will undergo its first revision in 25 years, modernizing the language in some sections and promising to reopen a contentious debate about changing gender terms in the sacred text. The New International Version, the Bible of choice for conservative evangelicals, will be revised to reflect changes in English usage and advances in Biblical scholarship, it was announced Tuesday. The revision is scheduled to be completed late next year and published in 2011.

"We want to reach English speakers across the globe with a Bible that is accurate, accessible and that speaks to its readers in a language they can understand," said Keith Danby, global president and CEO of Biblica, a Colorado Springs, Colo.-based Christian ministry that holds the NIV copyright.

But past attempts to remake the NIV for contemporary audiences in different editions have been plagued by controversies about gender language that have pitted theological conservatives against each other.

The changes did not make all men "people" or remove male references to God, but instead involved dropping gender-specific terms when translators judged that the original text didn't intend it. So in some verses, references to "sons of God" became "children of God," for example.

Supporters say gender-inclusive changes are more accurate and make the Bible more accessible, but critics contend they twist meaning or smack of political correctness.

Acknowledging past missteps, the NIV's overseers are promising that this time, the revision process will be more transparent and that they will actively promote what they describe as a long-held practice of inviting input from scholars and readers.

The NIV was first published in 1978 and more than 300 million NIV Bibles are in print worldwide; its publishers and distributors say the translation accounts for 30 percent of Bibles sold in North America.

The Committee on Bible Translation, an independent group of conservative scholars and translators formed in 1965 to create and revise the NIV, will oversee the new revision.

An effort earlier this decade to create a separate version of the NIV that used more gender-inclusive language in an attempt to reach a younger audience fell flat with groups that felt it crossed the line.

That edition, Today's New International Version, will cease publication once the new-look NIV is released, said Moe Girkins, president of Grand Rapids, Mich.-based Zondervan, its North American publisher.

"Whatever its strengths, the TNIV has become an emblem of division in the evangelical Christian world," Girkins said.

It was the TNIV that ushered in changes from "sons of God" to "children of God," or "brothers" to "brothers and sisters." In Genesis I, God created "human beings" in his own image instead of "man."

Many prominent pastors and scholars endorsed the changes. But critics said masculine terms in the original should not be tampered with. Some warned that changing singular gender references to plural ones alters what the Bible says about God's relationships with individuals.

The Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution saying the edition "has gone beyond acceptable translation standards."

"We fell short of the trust that has been placed in us," said Danby, of Biblica. "We failed to make a clear case for the revisions."

Danby said that freezing the NIV in its 1984 state was also a mistake, however. He emphasized that in the revision, about 90 percent of the NIV will be unchanged.

Douglas Moo, a professor at Wheaton College and chairman of the Committee on Bible Translation, said the group is committed to "a complete review of every gender related change."

"I am not sure how it's going to come out," Moo said. "We have a genuine, authentic review process ... Everything is on the table."

One of the most vocal critics of gender-inclusive translations, Randy Stinson of the Louisville, Ky.-based Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, said the group supports updating the NIV. He credited organizers for their openness.

"We're still probably going to differ on the way they handle some of the gender language," Stinson said. "But we're open and anxious to see what they come up with and we're really going to be reserving judgment."

Most changes will have nothing to do with gender inclusivity, Moo said. And the TNIV provides a glimpse of likely changes: In the '84 NIV, Mary is "with child," but in the TNIV she is "pregnant." In the NIV version of Psalm 146:9, "The Lord watches over the alien." The TNIV used "foreigner" instead of "alien."

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05:31 AM on 09/04/2009
There's great version I've been using, it's a mirror. I saw whatever I want, and its reflected right back at me. Wham! Don't have to think twice about anything..

Snarkiness aside, if some slight tinkering with a translated text rattles you, maybe you've been reading too closely. Better to look for inspiration in things than specific answers.
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kjstjohn
04:44 AM on 09/02/2009
Of more concern to me is the NIV's translation of the word "daikonos" as "servant" in reference to Phoebe. (Romans 16:1) Elsewhere, this same word is translated as "deacon" in reference to men.

This rendering has been used by fundamentalists to exclude women from office in the church.
05:34 AM on 09/02/2009
This is an excellent point. And there has been thorough recent research documenting that women were indeed ordained as deaconesses, and served in this capacity in the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Church. Women deaconesses fell out of use rather early, especially in the west-- but the last deaconess ordained in the Eastern Orthodox church was in the 19th century. And women have always served as deaconesses in female monastic communities in Greece. In 2004 the Holy Synod of the Church of Greece officially restored the female diaconate;however, despite this, we not see ordination of women to this post in the US or in Greece. There are several interesting books that examine the history and liturgical and pastoral role of women deacons in the early church. Here is a summary: http://web.archive.org/web/20060825124107/http://www.antiochian.org.au/content/view/483/21/
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06:19 AM on 09/02/2009
Min, you are opening a new theologcal world to me.
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01:59 AM on 09/02/2009
Regardless of how much evidence unbelievers are confronted with, most will refuse to believe the word of Our Lord because believing requires sinners to forsake their sins. The last thing the sinner wants to do is give up his sins for he loves sin and ha tes righteousness.
If we are going to be successful in bringing a revival to America, we must do just the opposite. We must love righteousness and ha te sinners. Love alone did not motivate Jesus, Paul and Noah. The fear of God also propelled them. This generation knows not the fear of the Lord. Hence there is little concern for the souls of the lost.
God is love.
02:59 AM on 09/02/2009
Aren't you a little (or actually a lot!) confused? We are not to "hate sinners". We may hate the sin, just like we came to hate our own sin, but we LOVE people. If you don't love people, then you don't have the spirit of God residing in you. I'm very disturbed at some of the things you are writing. Let me say again that whoever has been forgiven much, loves much. Those of us who have had a lot of deep sins forgiven can extend love to others because we know what it is to have a gracious loving Father forgive us what we've done wrong and we are so grateful. We see ourselves in other people that may be sinning, so how in the world could we hate them? Are you really thinking about what you are saying?

The only thing that I do agree with in what you said is that people don't come to Jesus because they don't want to give up their sin. This does line up with Scripture.
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BlackWidowPilot
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10:05 AM on 09/02/2009
I do not fear God, but rejoice in His love for all His children.

I do not engage in hypocrisy either, nor Biblical literalism and call it "Christian."

END PART I
01:41 AM on 09/02/2009
So, if the bible can be translated, revisited, and revised for modern day standards (language/verbiage or otherwise), what does this mean for supreme court justices (and the rest) who must translate the US Constitution?

It seems to me that some like to adhere to "literal" translations of one document (bible) but don't seem to get how interpretations can exist for the other (Constitution).
01:33 AM on 09/02/2009
This is not news.
The evidence suggest that no "con servative evan gelical" has ever seen the inside of any bible.
for if they had they would not be calling for the dea th of our president; the bible say dont k ill, they would not be denegrating his humanity be dipicting him in "jokes" and emails as "less than human", The bible says that G od sees all men as equal; you would not see them on TV publicizing their h atred of anyone not in line with their agenda, the bible says love everybody, you would not see them toting g uns in the the hope of intimidating their rivals, the bible says if you live by the sw ord you will die that way, you would not see them issuing th reats to those who are in opposition to their views, the bible says that v engence belongs to G od. the bible they've never read condems ALL of their recent activities as h ypocrisy. how do i know this? im a ch ristian who reads and believes the bible.
02:22 AM on 09/02/2009
I would say the people doing the things you describe are not really Christians. As a Christian, you should realize that many people can take the name Christian on, but that doesn't mean they are the real thing. They may be religious, but they've never had the spirit of God transform them, so they aren't Christians. I am an evangelical. I believe we are to honor our leader and pray for him. I don't hate anyone. I have love in my heart for all people. Your views are prejudicial. You're trying to lump everyone in the category of "conservative evangelical" together and ascribe attributes to the entire group. I think that's pretty much the definition of prejudice when you stereotype like that.

I'm concerned in the future if things do heat up more, that all Christians are going to be blamed for what these few fake "Christians" will do. It's happening now and I believe from prophecy it will get worse.
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Realitylost
Take your ball and go home, whiners.
01:42 PM on 09/02/2009
"the bible sees all men as equal"

Um, no it doesn't. It contradicts itself on that point constantly.
01:30 AM on 09/02/2009
How come different Gospels have different versions of the same event? Which one is correct? What do I believe when I'm told that every word is true? Were they wrong or was G0d wrong when he told the writers different stories? I'm glad I have a brain that I use because that way I'll never have to be a evange.
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08:56 AM on 09/02/2009
Each of the Gospels -- Matthew, Mark, Luke , John -- were all accounts told from the perspective of that particular apostle (teacher). There is a book called The Harmony of the Gospels that was very helpful, when I was in college, in seeing each perspective as part of the total picture and recount of Christ's time as a human on earth.

BTW, Isaiah 20:13 - 14 and Mark 7: 6-8 where Isaiah prophesied and Jesus quoted him, both speak of the hypocrisy we see and are discussing here:
13: The Lord says:
"These people come near to me with their mouth
and honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
Their worship of me
is made up only of rules taught by men. [a]

14 Therefore once more I will astound these people
with wonder upon wonder;
the wisdom of the wise will perish,
the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

I wrote a research piece on church versus religion that you might find interesting. It' s posted on my blog.
01:27 AM on 09/02/2009
I wonder if they could add a new commandment.

Thou should not produce Christian rock for it doth insult thy senses.
01:27 AM on 09/02/2009
Who art thou that thou wouldst *punch up* the word of God?
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01:16 AM on 09/02/2009
God believes it is important for the righteous to judge the wicked.
Believers must warn the unbelievers that they are condemned. "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." Does this verse mean that believers are to preach God's forgiveness to the lost without mentioning that if they don't change the wicked ways, they will be damned to Hell for all eternity?
I think not.
01:35 AM on 09/02/2009
The last sentance of your post is correct.
01:11 AM on 09/02/2009
Who knew the bible could have a copyright?

Oh, right, yeah, like any other published (fictitious) material, it can. Unless you answer to a higher authority-ya know, God's Law vs. Man's Law.

This is like revising your autobiography, except someone else does it under your name and over 2000 years later.
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01:08 AM on 09/02/2009
Check out evilbible.com.
12:46 AM on 09/02/2009
All they need to do is change the words God, Lord or Jesus when ever they appear in the bible to "The Sun", then they will have an accurate description of what they are actually adoring! The words "Holy bible" are Greek "Helios Library", SUN BOOK!
01:23 AM on 09/02/2009
HFR--I'm laughing and cringing at the same time.
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12:45 AM on 09/02/2009
Now, this is the problem.
Do these people think at all? Just using this experience should tell them that in the process of translating over these years, "modern" ideas and mores have influenced interpretation.
It is therefore foolish to stick to dogma because the need to modernize changes meanings and context.
I refuse to let these ignor*ant fools dictate how I should lead my life.
12:42 AM on 09/02/2009
I am surprised that if the NIV is the favorite version of conservative christians, which is a catch all phrase for bigots hiding behind the church, specifically condems homosexuals to a life of hard labor on some isolated island with no chance of redemption.
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12:41 AM on 09/02/2009
The Bible contains poetic truth. And like Tom Sawyer was said to speak the truth, it's mostly poetic and not literal truth. These fundamentalists should do some work studying other than sacred texts, or I should say their one sacred text. If they saw how texts are subject to change and revision, changing meanings for words that have evolved, they could see their complete world view become more nuanced. Well, probably not.
Still, if they ever figure out that poetic truth is higher than literal truth, they might get some real value out of the Bible and understand it's greater glory. The stories are there to both emulate the valued characters and avoid falling into the clear and present traps some of them fell into. Cautionary tales. When society progresses beyond an original spiritual point, the dirty water should be poured out, and the clear water should replace, not dilute the dirty. See GBS's Androcles and the Lion preface!
The words aren't that important when you are thumping it or holding it up to wave at others like the superintendent in Tom Sawyer, one of the latter day books of the bible not honored in it's own area.