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Prevention Battles For Survival In Health Reform Legislation

First Posted: 10/17/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:55 PM ET

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One of the easiest ways to lower health care costs, as President Barack Obama frequently points out, is to take steps so that people don't get sick in the first place.

But now, as the debate over health care legislation hits new levels of intensity, questions are being raised about how the government can best go about preventing illness, how much political will exists for such an investment, and how much money it will really save in the long run.

Preventive health care falls into two wide categories: Wellness, which encourages lifestyle changes that can prevent or even reverse common illnesses; and early screening. They each have their own advocates, their own value propositions, and their own accompanying political dynamics.

The biggest bang for the buck may come from changes that can be made to personal habits and choices. A 2008 report from Trust for America's Health, for instance, found that investing $10 per person per year in proven programs promoting physical activity, better nutrition, and smoking cessation could save more than $16 billion annually within five years -- for a return of $5.60 for every $1 spent. Multiple studies have shown that more than half the cases of type 2 diabetes could be avoided with simple lifestyle changes.

Indeed, for some in the medical community, an intensive lifestyle intervention often is regarded as an effective form of treatment. The capacity to exercise and eat well, for example, can go a long way to reversing chronic diseases - a relatively low investment for a big cost-saving outcome.

Politically, pushing for wellness and fitness is even more palatable, having bridged the widest of partisan divides. A staple of the Obama health care stump speech, the topic has also found its way into Sen. John McCain's, (R-Ariz.) pitch as well.

"I mentioned long-term cost reductions," the Arizona Republican declared at a town hall event this week. "What are those? Wellness and fitness. There's a guy who's gotten pretty famous lately and he's the CEO of Safeway. You know what they have done at Safeway? They have programs and policies that incentivize their employees to practice wellness and fitness. Not to smoke, to work out, to do exercise, to get regular physical checkups. And they give them cash rebates and they give them policies that fit their particular needs. And guess what? Safeway's health care costs have gone down. Why can't we adopt that on the national scale? Why went we reward people for practicing wellness and fitness?"

Two weeks ago, meanwhile, a bipartisan group of Senators introduced the "Take Back Your Health Act," which would create a new program within Medicare to promote "comprehensive lifestyle programs" designed to lower the likelihood of chronic disease.

And yet, even with the most obvious of reforms, politics has a way of complicating matters. While House and Senate aides say billions of dollars will be devoted to wellness and fitness programs and promotion in a final health care reform bill (no exact figure currently exists), others think a much larger investment is needed.

"I'm most interested in paying for intensive lifestyle interventions to reverse heart disease, diabetes, prostate cancer/breast cancer, and obesity, as these account for 75% of the $2.1 trillion in 'health' care costs last year," said Dr. Dean Ornish, the Medical Editor of The Huffington Post. "Now, only 5 percent of the $2.1 trillion are spent for anything related to prevention; clearly, there is a lot of room for doing more."

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The funding of early testing, screening and treatment -- for illnesses like cancer and heart disease - has been framed by the President and his allies as a major cost saver in the health care system.

"For most people, it is just common sense that if we can use cost-effective screenings and other up-front interventions to prevent tens of millions of occurrences of cancer, diabetes, and cardiovascular disease, then we are going to slash health care costs significantly," Sen. Tom Harkin, (D-Iowa), told the Huffington Post in early August. "We are going to create a reformed health system that - in a systematic and sustained way - bends the cost curve and restrains health care spending in the years ahead."

In recent weeks, however, Harkin's position has become a subject of contention. A Congressional Budget Office analysis released last month warned that some of these preventive techniques could actually cost taxpayers more money than they save.

"Although different types of preventive services have different effects on spending, the evidence suggests that for most preventive services, expanded utilization leads to higher, not lower, medical spending overall," CBO's Director Douglas Elmendorf wrote in a letter to Rep. Nathan Deal, (R-GA).

And a study published on Tuesday by Health Affairs journal called into question the money that could be saved by providing aggressive and prolonged medical services to Type 2 diabetes patients.

Respected members of the medical and academic community have also raised concerns that if expensive tests, screening and medical consultations were made free or cheap, they would become overused.

"I'm afraid most of the research supports the CBO point of view," Linda Bergthold, a health policy consultant and researcher who served on Hillary Clinton's Health Care Reform Task Force in 1993, told the Huffington Post. "I think one of the more interesting arguments against covering prevention in a broad way is the one the CBO makes -- that if you pay for [these services, people] will come, and they will come again and again."

Aides on Capitol Hill and in the White House, as well as a several other health care analysts interviewed for this piece, scoffed at the notion that prevention is overrated. For starters, they noted, legislation passed by the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee differentiates between preventive services that are proven to work and those that don't. Funding would go to the former and not the latter.

In addition, while Tuesday's study called into question the cost-benefit equation of treating Type 2 Diabetics, it also noted that money spent on care and preventive services would be recovered over 25 years (after which there would be net savings.)

Moreover, there are a host of studies conducted by reputable members of the medical community that hail prevention as a solid investment.

"Because the benefits of prevention often accrue decades later -- long after someone has switched employers or health plans -- private plans will skimp on prevention coverage," wrote Dana P. Goldman, the chairman and director of health economics, finance and organization at the RAND Corporation. "The government needs to step in to fill this void."


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Perhaps the biggest obstacle advocates of both wellness and screening face is that the debate over health care reform has been complicated by pledges from the president and Democrats in Congress that the final legislation will be deficit neutral. That means that initiatives live and die based on whether the Congressional Budget Office scores them as costing - or saving - money. And the CBO won't score preventive treatment as creating savings under the rationale that there is no template to determine an accurate accounting.

"The CBO only scores things if they have happened before. So if we had done prevention earlier they would have scored it," said one slightly irritated White House aide. "But because we haven't, they won't. It's like if basketball fans refused to project how many more wins the Lakers would have when Shaq and Kobe first teamed up. Everyone knew the team would be better. They were going to win a championship. But because they hadn't played together before people for some reason refused to say how many more wins that would translate into."

In its current incarnation, the HELP Committee bill includes a prevention and public health investment fund that ramps up over 5-years to $10 billion a year, a portion of which would go to promoting wellness and fitness. The bill would require private insurers to cover preventive care deemed most effective by an advisory committee of the Department of Health and Human Services.

The Senate Finance Committee is expected to include money for Medicare and Medicaid to cover preventive services. The House's health care package - even after negotiations with Blue Dog Democrats - is estimated to put $8 billion behind preventive services in Medicaid and another $2.8 billion in eliminating preventive care co-pays in Medicare over the next decade.

But if prevention is scored solely as a cost, rather than a savings, then some on the Hill worry that the final dollar figure for these services will be pared down.

"It is frustrating to say the least," one Senior Democratic aide said of the rigidity of the CBO's policy. "My words aren't conveying how frustrating it is. At least now, compared to the past, we have at least some data [so that] members of the press, Senators and Representatives say this makes sense."

This, in the end, may be prevention's saving grace. While Elmendorf's letter will likely force a round of questions about the utility of paying for specific procedures, the political juice is still there to see at least a decent amount of funding in the final legislative package.

After all, even the President's Republicans critics are on record offering their philosophical support. A focus on prevention, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee wrote in an August 2007 oped, "would save countless lives, pain and suffering by the victims of chronic conditions, and billions of dollars."


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One of the easiest ways to lower health care costs, as President Barack Obama frequently points out, is to take steps so that people don't get sick in the first place. But now, as the debate over he...
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RMankovitz
Researcher, inventor, entrepreneur, author
07:40 PM on 09/02/2009
Here are some statistics regarding the "cost" of health care that you are not likely to hear about:

In the July, 2000, issue of JAMA, an analysis of the 2,403,351 deaths that year from all causes showed:

12,000 - unnecessary surgeries
7,000 - medication errors in hospitals
20,000 - other errors in hospitals
80,000 - infections in hospitals
106,000 - non-error, negative effects of drugs

This total of 225,000 deaths per year constitutes the third leading cause of death in the United States, after deaths from heart disease and cancer, and represented about 10% of all deaths that year.

Another analysis concluded that negative effects experienced by patients from medical treatment in outpatient settings caused:

116 million extra physician visits
77 million extra prescriptions
17 million emergency department visits
8 million hospitalizations
3 million long-term admissions

Resulting in 199,000 deaths (about 8% of all deaths).

How ironic that the majority are clamoring to get access to treatment by the third leading cause of death. I presume it is because they are not aware of new alternatives being proposed that might provide an opt-out for at least some with the desire to take their health into their own hands.

As a survival tactic, my approach is to be proactive and take preventive measures to avoid the need for medical care as much as possible. In "The Wellness Project", I describe an experimental program to accomplish that goal, using nature as a template for illness prevention.

Roy Mankovitz, Director
http://www.MontecitoWellness.com
12:43 PM on 09/02/2009
Prevention deserves our support! Ornish's proposals in particular make a lot of sense. The problem is that in this battle to include a difficult-to-score benefit in the legislation, it is butting up against a structural necessity in the establishment of a public insurance option. I am willing to fight for including prevention/wellness funding, and very willing to fight for early screening funding (less of a scoring liability there?), I am not willing to let either of those needs subvert creation of publicly funded competition for insurers. Advocates on all sides need to realize that by working together all of these priorities can be funded adequately, while separating into camps can only jeopardize the bill as a whole.
01:13 PM on 09/03/2009
Bass,
Despite what you are and are not willing to do, the fact is something that does not produce cash for establishment players does not fly. Prevention is such an animal. Worse, it can cost the big players in drugs and hospitals money since it creates wellness.

This is why you hear so little from Obama or anyone about prevention, especially lifestyle change prevention.
06:11 PM on 09/03/2009
fair point

I actually focus far less on prevention, because I think overall arguments like Ornish's tend to distract from the vital need for developing some public competition for insurance business. I was trying to indicate that my support is not what's in question when it comes to this issue, but my priorities.
12:11 PM on 09/02/2009
If the Government simply outlaws, tobacco, alcohol, butter, sugar,salt, red meat, fish(mercury), poultry(steroids), fast foods of all sorts and makes everyone work the rice paddies 14 hours a day, we will all be so healthy we will live forever without spending any money on health care.
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tjinc
10:55 AM on 09/02/2009
Let's get back on the Prevention discussion. Sadly, I see that most people now have no idea or have forgotten what real prevention is.

One of the examples I used to teach the Prevention Principle is the "hole in the bridge".

Simply put, "It makes more sense and costs a lot less to fix the hole in the bridge than it does to keep pulling people out of the water, treating the victims, and mourning the loss of those who couldn't be saved."

Unfortunately, the promotion of unhealthy lifestyles, and the treatment of them is big business, and the people who make the money aren't about to see their income source reduced. That has always been the biggest obstacle to prevention.

Any efforts at prevention face howls of protest from the companies and their shills, of "nannyism" "moral policing", "political correctness"; all to distract from the fact that Prevention is promotion of public health and safety. It has nothing to do with morals.

Take your pick.... Alcohol, tobacco, unhealthy food, insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and sadly, the medical community.
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Okieborn
Equal Rights For All !
10:08 AM on 09/02/2009
Mr. President !!
Please don't sell out the very people who worked so very hard to get you elected !
NO WATERED DOWN CRAP so you can brag about how you got Healthcare legislation thru !!
America is watching you sir !!!
07:28 AM on 09/02/2009
You want good health care? Become a millionaire because that is the only way you will ever get it regardless of what this Government does in this country. If they put in socialized medical you are still going to want to be a millionaire, if they leave it in the hands of private insurance companies then you will want to be a millionaire. And as soon as they (and I mean both democrats and republicans) get done bankrupting this country and turning it into a 3d world country then the socialized medical won't be worth a damn and neither will the private medical (except for the millionaires). And you can forget about Medicare and SSI.

You want to sit around and worry about health care reform? We had better get busy worrying about more pressing issues that are in far worse shape and that will affect our country a lot more drastically; one of those issues being failing infrastructure. We don't have the cash to fix our infrastructure; So either it is going to crumble into 3rd condition or we are going to selling it off to foreign countries and private companies; or there is always the bond option; print more cash and sell more bonds and devalue the currency even more.

And this is but one major issue far more pressing than the medical system.
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MrUniteUs
03:49 AM on 09/02/2009
Support the Kennedy Dodd bill passed by the Senate HELP committee.
Democrats on the committe need to explain why this is a very good piece of legislation.

Republicans are getting away with lies and distortions, because Democrats are not
explaining what is the Health Reform legislation.
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emiliob6
Retired Army
12:55 AM on 09/02/2009
We are spending over 200 billion a year in Iraq, I do not hear anyone complaining or having tea parties over how expensive it is and when it comes to health care which will cost 100 billion a year half the cost of Iraq we are mad as hell to be spending tax payers money for a program that will benefit all Americans, If we get our heads out of our A--es and everyone be willing to pay a small amount into a single payer system like Medicare, everyone will have Health Care at a fraction of cost of what a private plan is costing us, and the employer will still be mandated to pay at least half of the cost, example Single Payer will cost $300 a month , you pay $150, employer pays $150 you are happy and employer is happy he no longer has to pay $800 a month, these are approximate numbers it could be even lower than this. judging by the arguments the Republicans are making, I can only assume that Republicans don't have Health Care issues, only Democrats get sick and have health care issues, or is it that Republicans are drinking to much Kool-aid, maybe we should put an amendment to read " death panels for Republicans only in the bill"and give them something to tea party about. ye think
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lynettema
Little old lady
01:27 AM on 09/02/2009
"...health care which will cost 100 billion a year half the cost of Iraq..."

AND Congress has shown HOW they will pay for HCR. For the Republicans, this is part o the problem. Their wealthy friends are going to have to cough up some funds - after years of paying nearly nothing because of loopholes in the tax codes.
07:40 AM on 09/02/2009
How are you going to get the wealthy to pay for anything? I really want to know? The reason no one in Washington goes after the wealthy for more money is because if you do they will leave this country faster than you can sneeze. In fact, most of the super wealthy already are set up to leave having massive bank accounts, mansions, businesses and so forth outside the country. Yeah, go after the super rich in this country and you will be sitting here with nothing but middle class and poor people and the middle class will evaporate instantly into more poor people. Even 'hope and change' Obama won't touch the wealthy. He preached and preached about tapping the top 2 or 3% of the wealthiest Americans and won't do it because just talking about caused a massive emigration of money and investment already.

You want to push the rich with their jobs right out of America go right ahead, The UAE, Croatia, Australia, Hungary, Mexico, Costa Rica, Brazil, Africa and so forth will such up the wealth faster than anything. This is the Global world we have allowed to exist and promoted and now it is a reality. We aren't in control of the countries wealth anymore because there is no such a thing as country wealth.
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whatdouwant
12:53 AM on 09/02/2009
The crazy GOP Rep Bachmann who wants to slit her wrist and be bloody to defeat health care reform, uh, before you starting on your adventure of slitting, have you spoken to your family to see how they feel about your crazy self? But remember whether you are here or not, public option is going to be the health care of the land. If you truly want to go ahead and carry out your crazy thoughts, do not stop at your wrist only, you might as well slit your throat while at it, that way we will know you are a woman of your words. otherwise go home and shut up.
Maybe you do not know that those who pray to our Heavenly Father to strike people they do not like, are indirectly praying for their own doom. Because it is called boomerang. Your prayer come back to you ten times fold. Be careful what you ask for, it might just strike your heart. Do not let the devilish money being paid to you by the insurance company ruin your life. I am talking to you, woman to woman.
12:51 AM on 09/02/2009
There is an elephant in the room that is being mostly ignored. Make that a woolly mammoth! It is the overwhelming influence of the "anti-health industry", consisting of soft drinks, snack foods, fast-food chains, donut chains, liquor, tobacco, and a host of others who spend a vast amount of YOUR money on slick advertising to sell their products ($11 billion in 2004 just to advertise soda, candy, snacks, and fast foods). Policies to encourage people to live healthier lifestyles would be just fine if the resulting programs did not have to compete against this colossal profit-driven institution. Soft drinks are responsible for an 83% increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, which has in turn been recently linked with increased risk of early Alzheimer's Disease and other types of dementia. Imagine the cumulative cost to our nation from dealing with just these two diseases! Another main risk factor for diabetes is obesity caused by consumption of junk food like chips, burgers, donuts, etc. And, of course, the devastation caused by smoking is well-known. But these industries are deeply embedded in our economy. There is BIG money out there to oppose any efforts to curtail the sales of these profitable products. And any government effort to promote healthy eating in the face of such deep pockets will fail unless it is backed up by legislation to level the playing field. Show me the politician with the stones to fight for that!
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lynettema
Little old lady
01:29 AM on 09/02/2009
Illinois instituted a tax on these sugary foods and the people there are having fits. No one likes a tax, but they certainly aren't going to be removed from the shelves. Americans have forgotten about moderation.
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ScottontheSpot
04:39 AM on 09/02/2009
Yes, that's why it would make a lot more sense to include the Dept. of Agriculture to make a pound of Apples cheaper than a pound of potato chips - the NY Times reports that while soda has gone down in price 38% over the last few decades, the price of fresh fruit has gone up by nearly half as much.
We should include the dept. of Education to get physical education back in school on a daily basis too.
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SamiSam
Don't let the smooth taste fool you.
05:59 AM on 09/02/2009
As an educator, I can't tell you how frustrating it is to see these kids get bigger and bigger. I had PE 3 times a week and 3 recesses a day in elementary school. Where I teach, not all the classes get PE, those that do, have it once a week, and they get one recess a day. In addition the food sucks, and many parents are not informed enough to feed the kids well at home (I had once student tell me she never ate a carrot when she saw me snacking on some - I teach 4th grade!!). It is an overwhelming problem.
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Ken Allen
12:50 AM on 09/02/2009
You have to be careful not to get sucked into a pure accounting point of view, then arguing on the accountants' terms. From a pure accounting point of view, it would be cheapest if people refrained from getting health care until they were at death's door, then died very quickly, before much money could be spent on them.
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lynettema
Little old lady
01:29 AM on 09/02/2009
And just where is your crystal ball?
02:21 AM on 09/02/2009
yes, it cant be all about whats cheapest. it literally CANT. the "cheapest" thing to do would be for the govt to stop paying for anything. i almost wish they would, your would see America turn into a nationa of Marxist Lenninists almost overnight...that is why they wont do that, of course. so all the hysteria about "socialism" is just that. republicans dont want to reduce govt spending. no way! they could have done that when reagan was president or either bush. they want govt spending to go to the interests they favor, defence, energy and banking. republican or democrat = coke or pepsi. there are many good ideas for "fixing" the things that are broken, and many oif them are socialist ideas. By and large, the govt is providing for just everything and everyone it wants to. Its a false choice to suggest that the govt could pay for these things by "cutting the defense budget in half" because THOSE are the people the govt wants to have the money!see!
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BlueOnBlue
275 Republicans Voted to Kill Medicare
12:22 AM on 09/02/2009
There is one huge hole already in Medicare, which won't pay for regular checkups for seniors. In order to sneak one through and get simple blood tests and an EKG paid, a doctor has to lie and claim a condition which doesn't exist.

If every senior were encouraged to get a regular physical checkup, we could avoid some huge bills for conditions which are found later, at much greater cost.
12:24 AM on 09/02/2009
"There is one huge hole already in Medicare"

No actually the one huge hole would be funding . . . specifically $38 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities much like SS our Congress has spent time and time again regardless of party.
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lynettema
Little old lady
01:30 AM on 09/02/2009
This isn't true. I get one every year.
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BlueOnBlue
275 Republicans Voted to Kill Medicare
10:25 AM on 09/02/2009
You probably get one because your doctor puts a coded condition down for you, such as high blood pressure, or your checkup is covered by supplemental insurance. Regular annual checkups are not covered by Part A or B Medicare.
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deygirl
12:21 AM on 09/02/2009
VikingQuest I'm a Fan of VikingQuest I'm a fan of this user 36 fans permalink
People who are foreclosed on over the past few years bought things they couldn't afford. I'm all for a social safety net but not a safety net for stupidity.



I've seen some of your posts. If anyone truly needs a stupiditysafetynet, it is you.

You seem to like to equate good luck with good character, and vice-versa. I would like to hear what you think when you've experienced a little true hardship. Not the kind you can pass off by judging the person's lifestyle or choices, but the random, nasty-luck stuff. My mother is paralyzed, no known cause. I hope you live long enough to know that bad things do in fact happen to good people, and that people do not deserve everything that happens to them--good or bad.
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pfrogger
12:26 AM on 09/02/2009
well said.
people like viking don't care. they got theirs and they don't care about other people. and sadly logic does not dissuade them.
12:30 AM on 09/02/2009
Logic of what?

I don't believe in using the force of Government to take from one person to give to another.

Like I said, I'm for safety nets for the very odd and children's care but once you are old enough to be a productive human . . . you should be and stop asking for handouts.
12:09 AM on 09/02/2009
So, why is it that if a conservative disagrees with the liberals on anything its bashing but if the liberals disagree with repubs its an intellegent approach to discussing a shared problem. Just wondering.
12:11 AM on 09/02/2009
Because you're talking to the fringes on this site for the most part . . .
11:57 PM on 09/01/2009
Prevention measures is what you DO NOT NEED MONEY FOR. The only essential battle is to build a single payer agency that create a real competition the insurance companies and extortionist doctors/hospitals (a colleague of mine just got a 10 thousand dollar bill for a few stitches that took 15 minutes). The problem with Obama is that he continues to be under bankers' orders to borrow and waste.
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lazercat2008
12:01 AM on 09/02/2009
Health Insurance companies only want healthy people, It's like the car insurance. Get in a few crashes and you are out. Or have to pay out the nose.

Health Insurance companies promote young people with free health spas and other enticements. Sick people are a drain and they don't want those kind of people. Do you see the problem?
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lazercat2008
12:03 AM on 09/02/2009
You seem to believe the President is a dictator, Maybe Bush was, but now I think Congress is doing the Health care bill.
12:10 AM on 09/02/2009
I think it is Obama with the control issues here, Bush didnt have anything close to this kind of majority.