Southwest Adds Charge To Board Sooner

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DAVID KOENIG | 09/ 2/09 03:58 PM | AP

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DALLAS — Your bags still fly for free on Southwest Airlines, but if you want a better chance at a window or aisle seat it's going to cost $10 each way.

Southwest announced Wednesday that customers can pay extra to reserve a spot in the boarding line right behind elite fliers and ahead of families and other travelers. Unlike other airlines, Southwest doesn't offer assigned seats.

The new offering comes after Southwest introduced new fees for minors traveling alone and for bringing a small pet on board. Southwest still doesn't charge to check the first two bags, but experts and regular passengers are starting to wonder if that's next.

Southwest, like other airlines, is desperately looking for revenue to offset a slump in traffic, especially among business travelers who usually pay higher fares for last-minute or refundable tickets.

The Dallas-based discount airline lost $37 million in the first six months of this year, and analysts expect that 2009 will be its first unprofitable year since the early 1970s.

Many analysts believe Southwest is passing up hundreds of millions of dollars a year by not charging passengers for all checked bags. CEO Gary Kelly has said bag fees drive customers away, and he has ruled them out at least through the end of 2009. No promises beyond that.

Southwest officials say they're just charging for extra services that customers want.

"The big difference between (the check-in service) and a bag fee is this is strictly optional," said Kevin Krone, Southwest's vice president of marketing.

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Southwest is considering other amenities with charges, including in-flight Internet service.

"We'll continue to tinker and develop and launch," Krone said. "We're not done yet."

The airline believes the early check-in charge can raise about $75 million a year, on par with Business Select tickets, which cost more but come with extras such as early boarding and a free drink. "We'd be thrilled if it became in the hundreds of millions," Krone said.

Bob McAdoo, an analyst for Avondale Partners, is more bullish. He believes the boarding charge could raise $250 million a year. It could bring in enough money for the rest of 2009 to salvage a profitable year, he said.

McAdoo estimates that one-fourth of Southwest passengers could pay the check-in fee. Southwest declined to give an estimate.

The new $10 fee is called EarlyBird Check-in, and it was made available Wednesday for trips beginning Thursday and beyond.

Customers can pay the charge up to 25 hours before their plane is scheduled to take off, and they'll be moved toward the front of the boarding line.

The early birds will still wait behind passengers who bought more costly tickets called Business Select and elite-level frequent fliers, but they'll leapfrog over everyone else, even families traveling with small children, and they should find plenty of space in the overhead bins for their carryon luggage.

Southwest officials say that by paying the extra $10, you'll probably be among the first 30 people to board – the "A" group – although they won't promise it.

Families board next, then "B" passengers, and the last group to board Southwest planes is the "C" group. Folks in that group are usually stuck in a middle seat; Southwest's Boeing 737 jets have three seats on each side of the center aisle.

Experienced Southwest travelers go to the company's Web site precisely 24 hours before scheduled departure to be among the first to check in. They'll still be able to do that, but they may find themselves far from the front of the line.

That's good enough for Beverly Nageotte, an artist from Cloudcroft, N.M., who was waiting at Dallas Love Field for a flight back home. She said people would be silly to pay $10 extra.

"You're not going to go anywhere until everyone's on the plane anyway," she said. "I'm happy to get on the plane and hope it takes off and lands safely."

Dallas lawyer Ed Cloutman said $10 would be a bargain for harried consumers.

"Getting stuck in the middle seat is no fun," he said.

Steve Kennedy, a banker from Houston who often flies Southwest to Dallas, recalled that during its freewheeling youth in the 1970s Southwest made a splash by charging more for tickets but threw in a complimentary bottle of liquor.

"I understand in this day probably the best they can do is move you ahead in line instead of giving you a fifth," he said. "Corporations don't like that anymore."

DALLAS — Your bags still fly for free on Southwest Airlines, but if you want a better chance at a window or aisle seat it's going to cost $10 each way. Southwest announced Wednesday that custom...
DALLAS — Your bags still fly for free on Southwest Airlines, but if you want a better chance at a window or aisle seat it's going to cost $10 each way. Southwest announced Wednesday that custom...
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I would gladly pay fees for the following services: $10 to stop the unfunny wisecracks from flight attendants who think they are the next Seinfeld. $15 to keep the motormouth sitting next to me from trying to give me his life story throughout the flight. $25 to have my flight arrive at a gate within at least a quarter mile of the gate to my connecting flight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 09/03/2009
- mlm4420 I'm a Fan of mlm4420 10 fans permalink
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What's next??? Soon they'll be listening to the advise of CEO of Ryan Air of Ireland. He wants to remove the seats, strap people in the standing position, oh, and I almost forgot, pay to use the toilet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 09/03/2009

Please don't give the managers of US Airways any ideas! These cheap b--tards will find any way to squeeze blood from a turnip!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 09/03/2009

Southwest used to be a really cool airline with some of the best fares and best service. Now it has become just another airline like United, American, and US Airways(aka the flying vending machine), albeit with wisecracking flight crew. I have often found that AirTran and Jetblue and sometimes even Delta have fares way cheaper and the first two even offer some form of inflight entertainment. IMHO Southwest has slowly been in descent since Herb's departure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 09/03/2009
- Budokan I'm a Fan of Budokan 193 fans permalink
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Why not just add a charge to land the plane without crashing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 09/03/2009
- invirginia I'm a Fan of invirginia 24 fans permalink
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Why not just raise everyone's ticket price by $5? This endless tacking on of fee after fee by other airlines -- and now SW has started -- is surreal. Just raise the price honestly and quit being "creative" about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 09/02/2009
- factotem I'm a Fan of factotem 127 fans permalink
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Ah capitalism. You gotta love people and corporations who can only percieve it as a punishment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 09/03/2009
- Fabini I'm a Fan of Fabini 43 fans permalink
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Quick, how many people need to purchase 'early bird' boarding before it cancels itself out? Yes, this is a math problem. Let's say there are 240 seats on board.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 09/02/2009
- nick1936 I'm a Fan of nick1936 17 fans permalink

I have switched to Amtrak it takes a bit longer but then the seats are better and besides that i can walk around and it only took me 3 minutes to get out of South Station in Boston a quick hop on the red line and we were home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 09/02/2009
- yappnmutt I'm a Fan of yappnmutt 70 fans permalink

at least southwest is honest about being a cattle car in the sky and does it in a cheerful way unlike the other airlines that still try to make you think your special being squeezed into a seat between 2 people who think they also bought part of your seat, too.

my question is: can this ticket be bought after you realize you will be one of the last to board?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 09/02/2009
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Yep, all classes of airline travel will be Animal Class.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 09/02/2009
- Hnorc I'm a Fan of Hnorc 20 fans permalink

How much can I charge Southwest for a late flight?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 09/02/2009
- Furby I'm a Fan of Furby 66 fans permalink
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Why would anyone want to sit on a plane any longer than absolutely necessary? Strange.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 09/02/2009
- Tom95134 I'm a Fan of Tom95134 53 fans permalink
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Southwest is cattle car seating and the early boarders get their choice of what seat they are squeezed into.

Realistically, you have to remember that Southwest is essentially a businessma­n's/commut­er airline and many people do not have any luggage except for a carry-on. Seating in the front few rows gets you off the plane quicker and out of the airport quicker (or to the car rental counter quicker).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 09/02/2009
- MAH999 I'm a Fan of MAH999 32 fans permalink

My thoughts exactly. But ssshhhhhhhh. If they hear you, they'll charge $25 to be the last on the plane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 09/02/2009
- c2morow I'm a Fan of c2morow 10 fans permalink

All day business meeting...
6 ft tall...
Exhausted....
Traveling since 5 AM....
Only flight available back home at 6:30 pm...

That exit row seat looks really nice under the above conditions, even if it means sitting on the plane a few more minutes than everyone else...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 09/02/2009
- GalaxieGal I'm a Fan of GalaxieGal 2 fans permalink

I wish there was a $10 fee for anyone bringing a full sized bed pillow onboard. I just don't get it, put the seat back all the way into the person behind you then sit up straight with a huge pillow. On Monday there were at least 6 adults with full sized pillows and full sized comforters.

Just as a note to anyone flying Delta/Northwest out of LAX. With the consolidation, it's more crowded than Christmas, every.single.day. Over 2 hours to get to my gate. They were discussing putting a notice on the website, but I doubt that will happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 09/02/2009
- Dots I'm a Fan of Dots 9 fans permalink
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Since I'm old and can't walk too well, am I considered elite or do I have to pay $10 now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 09/02/2009
- c2morow I'm a Fan of c2morow 10 fans permalink

It that is the case, you should be able to get a blue preboard pass. SWA is very good about accomodating people in your condition. Just ask when you get to the gate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 09/02/2009
- CRUMBOWSKI I'm a Fan of CRUMBOWSKI 21 fans permalink

So..a Financial INCENTIVE to SLOW the Queue..

I wonder when they'll REALLY...turn on the COERCION?

Read: CHARGING for ESSENTIAL SURVIVAL REQUIREMENTS?

WATER..$3.00

OVERHEAD FAN..$1 /HOUR

WATER..WIL­L..BE...NE­XT!

And ALL of this.. to AVOID..even HINTING..at the..FACT..that its THE Orwellian "SECURITY"..thats causing people to AVOID THE AIRLINES...

With the HELP of a Vocal minority of Security State Appeaser/C­OLLABERATO­RS..Using the OLD WHEEZE.....:

"I don't MIND GIVING UP MY FREEDOMS FOR SECURITY..." as if there were ANY such thing...

"Security" and the TSA..is ALL about making this kind of COERCION..­LEGAL..and­..UNAVOIDA­BLE...the real question in all of this..is..WHY? WHY is GOVCORP So....HOSTILE to even the NOTION of an END to "Threat Level Orange"??? Why?

This' their method of MAKING everyone into a Silent..Ob­ediant...H­OSTAGE....­.We ALL KNOW what happens when you give a Human..TOTAL CONTROL over OTHER HUMANS..they.. THREATEN..­.ABUSE...S­HOUT...INS­ULT..Wreck your belongings..then put you through SO MUCH HELL to get reimbursed..you are LIKELY to simply GIVE UP..."CUSTOMER SERVICE" has been REPLACED with "CUSTOMER COERCION"!

The "NEW" TSA "Program" of MANDATORY NAME CHECKING..­against..o­f all things..the DIABOLICAL "WATCH LIST"..Absolutely a "INTERNAL VISA"! Replete with DEFACTO "FINE"..Read: CONFISCATION OF YOUR TICKET...AND RIGHTS TO A REFUND...FOR 'NON-COMPLIANCE' WITH THIS...SAVAGELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL 'POLICY'....WHEN AIRLINES CAN "DEMAND" YOUR NAME TO CHECK IT AGAINST A "LIST"..we­ll..People will AVOID that..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 09/02/2009

Another example of how deregulation has opened the door for stupid business practices. BTW...it was Jimmy carter who deregulated the airlines, circa 1978.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 09/02/2009
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