Labor Department Tries To Roll Back Last-Minute Bush Rules

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SAM HANANEL | 09/ 3/09 02:54 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — The Labor Department is trying again to roll back Bush administration regulations that made it easier for farmers to hire temporary foreign farm workers.

The agency on Thursday said it is proposing new rules that would boost wages and increase safeguards for thousands of seasonal workers brought in each year to help farmers pick their crops. It would also require that growers make greater efforts to fill those jobs with American workers.

If the rules are adopted, they would largely reverse regulations finalized shortly before President George W. Bush left office and return to a framework that had been in effect since 1987.

Labor and immigrant rights groups have criticized the Bush regulations, claiming they would slash farm wages and make it harder for domestic workers to claim those jobs.

The Labor Department briefly suspended the Bush rules earlier this year, but officials were forced to reinstate them after farm groups successfully challenged the decision in federal court.

"Every worker deserves to be treated and paid fairly," Labor Secretary Hilda Solis said. "That is especially true of agricultural workers, who often perform backbreaking work for very low wages."

Solis said the new rules would let the Labor Department take a more active role in protecting farm workers from mistreatment and keeping domestic workers from being unfairly displaced.

Farm growers say the changes to the H-2A guest worker program will make it more cumbersome and expensive for them to hire foreign workers for tough field jobs that most Americans don't want.

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"The Bush rules did go a long way to streamline the process and make it more feasible," said Jason Resnick, assistant general counsel for the Western Growers Association in Irvine, Calif. "If that rule is rolled back, it would be a huge setback for production agriculture."

Resnick said growers are likely to take legal action against the new rules if they are approved after a 30-day comment period. Growers have complained in past years that processing paperwork under the program took up so much time that they were sometimes forced to let crops rot for lack of enough workers at harvest time.

Bruce Goldstein, executive Director of Farmworker Justice, a Washington-based advocacy group for migrant and seasonal farmers, said the drop in wages under the Bush rules has been dramatic. In North Carolina, for example, most guest workers are earning about $7.25 an hour instead of $9.34 an hour.

"The proposed changes to the H-2A program would reduce unfair and illogical wage cuts that the Bush administration inflicted on U.S. and foreign workers," Goldstein said.

The new rules would return to the old standard for determining temporary farm wages, resulting in an average increase for workers of about $1.44 an hour. Farmers would also have to submit documentation certifying that they tried to fill the jobs with American workers. Under the Bush rules, those documents had to be presented only if there was a government audit.

The proposed rules would require state work force agencies to inspect temporary worker housing before an employer is approved to bring in foreign workers – something the Bush rule didn't mandate until after workers moved in.

Labor officials say the new rules do retain some of the efforts of the Bush administration to streamline paperwork and make the program more efficient. But they also go farther than the 1987 regulations in boosting worker protections.

For the first time, the rules would require posting of farm jobs through an electronic job registry to make sure domestic workers get the first shot. And if prevailing wages go up in the middle of a temporary worker's contract, the grower would have to increase the worker's wages.

WASHINGTON — The Labor Department is trying again to roll back Bush administration regulations that made it easier for farmers to hire temporary foreign farm workers. The agency on Thursday sai...
WASHINGTON — The Labor Department is trying again to roll back Bush administration regulations that made it easier for farmers to hire temporary foreign farm workers. The agency on Thursday sai...
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This just in. Bush pro-business and anti-worker. What a shock! But I suppose this just flies right over the heads of the anti-immigrant red faced mob that follows Faux News. The Repubs promise prayer in schools and an end to abortions (never voted on, by the way, when they controlled all three branches of government), and all their followers have to give up is a decent paycheck. What a deal!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 09/03/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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Bush did much of his damage with executive orders. Why cant Obama undo some things the same way?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 09/03/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 166 fans permalink

Republicans want a low wage economy where we are all reduced to only being able to afford the nearest Walmart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 09/03/2009

With prices at Walmart lately we won't even be able to afford to anything there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 09/03/2009
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I think one thing missed by those who think immigration reform (many of them, republican voting AgriBusinessman) is such a hot idea is that the best way to curb illegals from coming here would be to prosecute employers (a lot of them in agriculture) who hire them.

I should think that this might be a concern to them. Of course, food prices would increase, but you've gotta pay the piper if you want to dance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 09/03/2009

I agree. A couple of years ago, a TV show about agriculture in Washington State indicated that most of the illegals brought in to work on the farms had jobs before they left they home countries. Until employers are hit for hiring illegals, people are going to continue to come to US to get jobs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 09/03/2009
- Strywever I'm a Fan of Strywever 30 fans permalink

You're right. Americans are addicted to cheap (relative to other countries), government-subsidized food. Let's hear some Republicans complaining about THAT kind of government interference with the free market.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 09/03/2009

Why do they have to "TRY"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 09/03/2009
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I AM SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING THE EXCUSE "JOBS AMERICANS DON'T WANT".

americans DON'T WANT to lose their home. they DON'T WANT to be replaced by foreigners in the workplace. they DON'T WANT to be taken advantage of by big corporations. they DON'T WANT to be forced to work for wage that keeps them in poverty.

AMERICANS WANT JOBS. and they want them to be safe, and pay a living wage. apparently that's too much to ask from elitists who own mansions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 09/03/2009
- tnkeating I'm a Fan of tnkeating 21 fans permalink
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Tyler a lot of the so called elitist you speak of in there mansions, work for a living also. Not all elitist have businesses that employ thousnads of people, many work long hours every day to pay for there mansions and there lifstyle, but don't be fooled, they are just on a higher level of being broke....... These elitists you speak of , many of them worked there ass off all there life to get what they have got, many sacraficed and saved and even put there children through college, why should they have to pay for you to. What have you done to deserve a free living? I myself am unemployed and there is still a lot of jobs I won't do, not because I'm afraid to work, but there is a lot of jobs I am not physically able to do anymore, Theres a lot of jobs I would die to have, but it has nothing to do with elitist, that is a false enemy, from someone trying to sell you a false truth. The real truth....nothing is free, you have to earn what you get

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 09/03/2009
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this is an interesting reply...

so you accept the title of elitist? let's make sure you know what an elitist is:
e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism (ĭ-lē'tĭz'əm, ā-lē'-)
n.
1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
2. 1. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
2. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.

so you think you're better than others because you feel you earned what you have??
THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE SACRIFICING, AND WORKING HARD, BUT THEY DON'T GET THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES AS YOU, THEREFORE THEY CAN'T PUT THEIR KIDS THROUGH COLLEGE OR LIVE IN A FAT HOUSE.

you pompous arse, just because YOUR OPPORTUNITIES panned out well for you, doesn't mean YOU WORKED HARDER THAN ANYONE ELSE out there bustin' their arse. IT JUST MEANS YOU WERE LUCKIER IT WORKED OUT NICELY.

so, as a member of this society, where you were able to earn the privileges you have, you owe it to that society to A) not be so darn smug, and B) contribute back TO that society. cuz if you were born and grew up in North Korea, you'd be a peasant like everyone else. This society allowed you to be what you are, and therefore you owe it your support, as it supported YOU.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 09/03/2009
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FURTHERMORE,

1. no, you DON'T have to "earn" what you get. some steal it, some inherit it.

2. if you "worked hard" to get what you have, then you're not really the elite i'm talking about. the elite don't work. THEY MAKE DECISIONS. that is work like picking out what clothes to wear in the morning is work.

3. NO ONE IS ASKING FOR A FREE RIDE. we want what is FAIR. we want to contribute to a society that contributes back to itself. THIS IS NOT THE WILD FRONTIER. so if you use anything that is public, YOU'RE A PART OF IT. if you do any business that involves THE PUBLIC, you're a part of it. unless you are COMPLETELY self sufficient, without the public, you'd be nothing at all. SO SAVE YOUR SMUGNESS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 09/03/2009
- BBackSoon I'm a Fan of BBackSoon 44 fans permalink
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What a nasty comment.

Have you ever done farm work? I did in high school for my Uncle. Just so you know family can work you harder. It was a horseradish farm, which is the second most manual labor crop behind only Tobacco. At the time in the early 80’s farm work paid about a quarter less than minimum wage. Have you ever worked a hoe 6 days a week for 8 hours a day for 2 or 3 weeks at a time?

I also worked for a small manufacturing company; the piecework was always done by for lack of a better term, Mexicans. Don’t know why, but I can tell you I didn’t want any part of it.

Part of our problems is the race to the bottom we have been involved in for the last 40 years. Thanks Sam Walton. We want everything to be cheap so every company has to try to compete with $0.25 labor in China. And many small business owners do work long hard hours but like any other company, they see payroll as an expense and if you can lower and expense without any horrible side effects you do it. But then they have plants full of illiterate people that live in hovels while the owner drives up in a Jag. That is living the dream.

There was a time when Business Owners saw their employees as an asset and even as part of the family. Sadly those days are over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 09/03/2009
- kathy001 I'm a Fan of kathy001 85 fans permalink

I absolutely agree, Tyler-Durden. There is no job an American will not do FOR A FAIR WAGE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 09/03/2009

Everything that Bush did should be undone. He worked for corporations and they are the only ones that benefited. It is time to take back the government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 09/03/2009
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 224 fans permalink
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Someone should just go to every department of the Federal Government, tell them to dust off their books from 1999, and use those.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 09/03/2009

Short, to the point, and frighteningly obvious good advice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 09/03/2009
- Lori Bowles I'm a Fan of Lori Bowles 119 fans permalink
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Thats way to easy. I'm still trying to think of something the bush administration did that was good for the country. Can anyone point something out??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 09/03/2009
- BBackSoon I'm a Fan of BBackSoon 44 fans permalink
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I got nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 09/03/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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He was not able to run for office in 2008 ? That was a good thing for the country,.
He was a wealth of material for the comedians? Laughing is good for your health.
He went on vacation most of his presidencies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 09/03/2009
- Strywever I'm a Fan of Strywever 30 fans permalink

He made some improvements in ocean protection (rather bizarrely, it seems to me -- but I'll take it). Can't think of much else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 09/03/2009
- RandVictims I'm a Fan of RandVictims 117 fans permalink
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"Labor Capital" getting more leverage in the equation for a change, what a concept!! In addition to the reversal of Reaganomics corruptions, Capitalism might just start to work after all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 09/03/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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I dont think there would be anything wrong with Capitalism. We have never really saw it though. Just like Russia was never Communist but a dictatorship, Capitalism in America is not Capitalism, but more like the mafia given free range with no rules except 'Profit at all cost.'
When the Supreme Court decided that corporations had all the rights of a person under the 14th amendment, but none of the responsibilities was when things really started to get dangerous.
Repeal that, make them responsible for all actions the corporation performs or orders performed would really be a great start to getting back on track. But over 100 years now of AMerican style capitalism with Ivy Greed rules, and over 100 years of Ivy Greed schools passing on and building onto the Ivy Greed rules is not working. Just think, every downfall in the economy in the last 100 plus years was at the hands of American Capitalistic Ivy Greed leaders. It just doesnt work this way and needs to change now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 09/03/2009
- Rmath I'm a Fan of Rmath 56 fans permalink
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We didn't have a Department of Labor during the eight years of the Bush administration. Unless you count self-promoting Elaine Chao, who violated the Hatch Act and generally spent all her time working tirelessly against working people.

There's so much to roll back. It could easily take eight years to undo the damage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 09/03/2009
- protagonia I'm a Fan of protagonia 80 fans permalink

Start now, then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 09/03/2009
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 50 fans permalink

gr8 idea. DeWitt Gnau.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 09/03/2009
- tnkeating I'm a Fan of tnkeating 21 fans permalink
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So roll back less than 5% unemployment, thats the lowest unemployment rate in the history of this country, and that includes 25 million illegal immigrants..............Lets see under President Obama the unemployment rate is going on 11% and most of the Illegals have gone home because there is no jobs here, and thats just the people that are actually on the books collecting unemployment, there another 8% thats not even counted because there benifits have run out or they were never elligable. Thats a wopping 19% unemployment......... but your right about taking 8 years to undue the damage

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 09/03/2009
- kathy001 I'm a Fan of kathy001 85 fans permalink

Are you seriously trying to blame the economy on a President who has been in office for 8 months? The economy that crashed BEFORE he took office? Seriously?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 09/03/2009
- Strywever I'm a Fan of Strywever 30 fans permalink

Just for the record, Obama and economists have warned since before he took office that jobs recovery would significantly lag economic recovery, which has only just barely begun. But don't let key information stand in your way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 09/03/2009
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