Obama Reform Speech Will Kick Off "Final Debate," Axelrod Says

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President Barack Obama stands with Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius as he makes a statement regarding the H1N1 swine flu virus in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington, Tuesday, Sept. 1, 2009. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — Even as liberals urge President Barack Obama to demand bold, far-reaching changes to the nation's health care system, the White House signaled openness Thursday to compromises that might attract moderate congressional Democrats as well as some Republicans.

Obama believes in "fundamental principles" about overhauling health care, top presidential adviser David Axelrod told The Associated Press, but "he's not dogmatic about how we get there."

Axelrod's comments did not definitively answer how hard Obama will push for the most ambitious parts of his proposal, including health insurance for virtually all Americans and a government-run plan to compete with private insurers. But his diplomatic tone was in keeping with the administration's approach of refusing to flatly demand several parts that are dear to Democratic activists who helped elect him.

Those are the type of conciliatory hints that frustrate many liberals. They fear Obama will dilute the bold health care proposals he campaigned for, even though Democrats control the House, Senate and White House. One group, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, sent a mass-distributed e-mail quoting a Texas man saying he is "dropping out of political activism" because of his disillusionment with Obama over health care.

Also, former President Bill Clinton told Esquire Magazine that Obama should forge ahead with his health care proposals. "I wouldn't even worry about the Republicans," Clinton said. Obama is doing the right thing, he said, "even though he's jamming a lot of change down the system."

But many Democrats wonder if Obama really will jam a robust plan past overwhelming GOP opposition and the reservations of many centrist congressional Democrats eyeing their next election. Those Democrats will listen carefully for clues when Obama addresses a joint session of Congress next Wednesday night.

Axelrod's cautious answers Thursday might offer little comfort to those seeking forceful signs from the administration.

Asked if Obama might accept a Republican senator's idea for creating a public health insurance option only if private insurers prove unwilling or unable to meet certain affordability targets, Axelrod replied: "We need choice and competition within the pool that's created."

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The plan has been floated by Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine. She often is seen as the most likely GOP lawmaker to support a primarily Democratic-crafted health bill. She would have nonprofit agencies offer health insurance only if private insurers could not cover 95 percent of the people in their regions with plans costing no more than about 15 percent of the person's or household's annual income.

Many Democrats want prompt creation of a government-run program to compete with private insurers, who stand to gain millions more customers if Congress mandates coverage of the nation's uninsured. Obama has often said he favors such a "public option." But he and his aides have repeatedly stopped short of saying he would sign no bill without it.

Obama's pollster Joel Benenson sent new survey findings to Democratic lawmakers Thursday in an apparent bid to reassure them that support for health care changes can be politically popular. The somewhat lukewarm support for Obama's initiatives, his memo said, is "based in large part on a lack of awareness of the details of the plan."

"When voters learn about the composition of the plan, support grows considerably," the memo said.

Liberals hope the administration's conciliatory words will eventually give way to a forceful move to enact a far-reaching bill, even if it draws no GOP votes. Some are warning Obama not to take them for granted.

The Congressional Progressive Caucus, comprised of 83 liberal lawmakers, sent Obama a letter Thursday saying a health bill "without a robust public option will not achieve the health reform this country so desperately needs. We cannot vote for anything less."

But some moderate Democrats in the House and Senate are wary of a government-run insurance plan. It might amass enough leverage over doctors, drug companies and others to eventually drive private insurers out of business, they say.

The Congressional Black Caucus called on Obama Thursday to show "unwavering support" for "a strong public health option" and the full funding of health care expansions included in a pending House bill.

Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday the administration is fiercely determined to get a health care overhaul, although he conceded it probably won't happen without "an awful lot of screaming and hollering."

Appearing at a Brookings Institution gathering, Biden said it will be difficult to find a consensus on remaking the health care system. But he also predicted that "we're going to get something substantial." He declared that "we're going to get there."

Meanwhile, a top Republican player in the health care debate said Americans should expect a rather modest bill from Congress this fall. Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, one of three GOP negotiators seeking a bipartisan bill in the Senate Finance Committee, told Iowa radio station KMCH, "It may be a scaled-own bill. It may be kind of miniature to what we're talking about."

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Associated Press writer Ben Feller contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Even as liberals urge President Barack Obama to demand bold, far-reaching changes to the nation's health care system, the White House signaled openness Thursday to compromises that ...
WASHINGTON — Even as liberals urge President Barack Obama to demand bold, far-reaching changes to the nation's health care system, the White House signaled openness Thursday to compromises that ...
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- uvymopka I'm a Fan of uvymopka 17 fans permalink
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The government program, war on poverty -- when you read the legislation of the war on poverty did you see anywhere in that legislation, "Oh, and this will destroy poor families, this will destroy the black family," did you see it in there? No. Wasn't in there. When the left tells us, "There aren't any death panels in there, there's no end of life," , really? It doesn't have to say it to be in it. Welfare, the war on poverty, we were supposed to wipe out poverty and all we did was wipe out the black family. But that wasn't the intent of the legislation, was it? Just like in this health care bill, the words "death panel" may not be in there, but I'll assure you there's going to be one. There can be no other way. So you got an economy that's plundered, you have an economy that is tanking, you have no hope on the horizon for job creation, and this guy is calling a joint session to get his rear end out of the bacon to save his image with his party and to get this health care bill passed so he can build a monument to himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 09/09/2009

Congress and Senators, y'all have one of two chices to make:

1) American lives (also losing family houses, bankruptcy and homelessness due to medical costs)

or

2) Corporate interest$ in the Wealthcare industry and greedy campaign coffers to be filled.

Gee, It IS a tough choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 09/06/2009
- Dale Larson I'm a Fan of Dale Larson 207 fans permalink
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It's time to end our "risky experiment" of "For-profit health insurance". It's a proven failure.

HR676 (http://hr676.org) Single Payer system that is proven, pro-business and pro-people:

* Slashes at least 30% of costs off the top by removing private insurance overhead.
* Companies take health care expenses off their books. Stock value increases. Better able to compete internationally.
* Small companies could have access to higher skilled workers because previously they couldn't compete in the labor market by offering similar benefits.
* More entrepreneurial ventures will launch since they have more money and less unrelated risk.
* Dramatic drop in bankruptcies.
* Dramatic drop in lawsuits. Most of these lawsuits are simply to obtain money to cover health care if something interrupts their coverage.
* Reduced system complexity. Greater efficiency due to fewer regulations.
* Savings from employees not having to fight with their insurers during work hours.
* HSA and MSA dollars redirected back into the economy for goods and services.
* Additional money to spend from not having to carry "uninsured motorist coverage" on your auto policy.
* Contract employment is more viable for workers since they are guaranteed access to health care.
* People are covered when unemployed. No chance of being wiped out financially if you lose your job.
* Health care providers (doctors, hospitals, therapists...) see increase in business with much less administrative expense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 09/04/2009
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 319 fans permalink
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@ georgej

They scrubbed your comment. LMFAO. Learn how to post, ya dummy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 09/04/2009
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Scrubbed is what the Obamacrats do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 09/04/2009
- uvymopka I'm a Fan of uvymopka 17 fans permalink
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georgej was a great post, banned by the censors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 09/04/2009
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 63 fans permalink

Play it again Sam !!! LOL !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 09/04/2009
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I am amazed how soon people forget the use of TIMING during the campaign. Am I the only one who read Renegade... lol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 09/04/2009

We need to send the Democrats in Washington and the Obama administration a message that we want the public option. You can do so by making a contribution at the following site:

http://www.actblue.com/page/iowabipartisanship

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 09/04/2009

Fundamental principles, fundamental schminsicles.

Its time to stop futzing around. Obama must come up with a SPECIF plan and then go all out, using the full power of his administration, to rally support for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 09/04/2009

OOps! That should obviously be SPECIFIC plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 09/04/2009

"The somewhat lukewarm support for Obama's initiatives, his memo said, is "based in large part on a lack of awareness of the details of the plan."

The problem with the public option is that about 2/3 of the people do not understand what it is and many think it is a complete government takeover of health insurance.

When the public option is properly explained to them, that it gives them a CHOICE between private health insurance and a public plan similar to medicare, a strong majority support it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 09/04/2009
- cyndeewi I'm a Fan of cyndeewi 21 fans permalink
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I had all my hopes in President Obama. I still cannot believe that I was wrong. I am so disappointed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 09/04/2009
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Perhaps some of your hope should lie within... go knock on some doors or something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 09/04/2009

Instead of being disappointed, send Washington, including the Obama administration a message that you want a public option. Go to the following site:

http://www.actblue.com/page/iowabipartisanship

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 09/04/2009
- cripes I'm a Fan of cripes 3 fans permalink

Not much about Biden in all that hoopla.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 09/04/2009

President Obama..get it done...enough of the nice guy shat....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 AM on 09/04/2009
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I so agree, Jedi...Biden gave me hope again in his speech at Brookings. I liked his energy and conviction and it actually re-ignited my passion for public option.I admit I needed to hear Joe's words. I hope Biden knows something good with regards to Obama's speech. Now I'm looking forward to it with hope!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 09/04/2009
- unch I'm a Fan of unch 16 fans permalink

may wisdom and courage be there for American people, although it is way too much to ask for...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 09/04/2009
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no, not too much to ask for, unch...we should show wisdom and courage to the best of our abilities. Those are good words...they work best together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 AM on 09/04/2009

If Obama settles for a weak, anemic compromise, this will correctly be seen by the Republicans as a major victory and will embolden them to obstruct even more argessively against the rest of his agenda. It will be correctly seen as a defeat for Obama and will seriously weaken him politically. The relevant issue is can he get 51 votes for a strong, robust health care reform plan in the Senate? If so he needs to go full speed ahead and use reconciliation.

And it is failure to achieve strong, meaningful health care reform that will cause the Democrats to lose seats in the next election, not success. Nothing succeeds like success and nothing fails like failure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 09/04/2009
- timhere I'm a Fan of timhere 16 fans permalink
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If a public option drives the others out of business it is only because it is superior. How is this bad? This argument from the people who say government can not do anything right. Besides, the private insurers will still have the republicans. I know they would not sign up for a plan that is socialized and wants to kill grand ma ma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 09/04/2009
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