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Obama Schoolchildren Speech Drives Right-Wingers Batty

First Posted: 10/19/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:00 PM ET

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UPDATE, 8:17 P.M. EST: ABC News is reporting that some school districts in six states (Texas, Illinois, Virginia, Wisconsin, Missouri and Minnesota), are refusing to air President Obama's speech to students.

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Yesterday, I noted that Florida's GOP Chair Jim Greer had heard about President Barack Obama's intention to address the schoolchildren of America on the occasion of the start of a new school year, and went quite mental, warning darkly that the address was nothing more than a dastardly inculcation into socialism and a viral spread of liberal propaganda. Naively, I imagined this would be a derangement confined to a few weird nobodies, but, duh, I forgot: everyone is crazy now. So, this matter has thus become a Thing. Let's dispense with the highlights!

Glenn Beck hit this early, in a hurry, announcing that he would be countering Obama's address by airing a "special one-hour broadcast next Tuesday on television on the indoctrination of your children." Naturally, new wacko-target Van Jones figured into Beck's remarks, along with a warning that the "republic is under attack" from a video that encourages kids to do homework and stuff:


The National Review's Mark Steyn told Rush Limbaugh's audience Wednesday that the video address was Obama's attempt to extend his "cult of personality." It should be noted that Steyn was willing to concede that the tactics didn't quite rise to the level of Saddam Hussein. Restraint! The conservative fringe may paradoxically refer to Obama as a socialist or a fascist, depending on the direction the wind is blowing that day, but they've thus far drawn the line at Baathist.


Newsbusters' Mark Finkelstein likened the move to Maoist China, the regime that taught Dick Cheney how to stop worrying and love the waterboard!

Say, here's an idea. Pres. Obama's quotations on a variety of topics could be assembled in a small book, and every citizen given one -- free of course -- by the government. Citizens would then be encouraged to meet and discuss "what can we infer the President believes is important" in every aspect of life.

Right, or, you know, alternately, the White House could just do a video where the President talks about the importance of setting educational goals and advises against dropping out of school.

Michelle Malkin worried that for the first time in human history, schoolchildren would be motivated hypnotically to rise up and seize the means of production through the assignment of pointless busywork:

So when the Department of Education directs schools to gather children 'round the TV monitors for Obama's pep talk and then do this...


* Create posters of their goals. Posters could be formatted in quadrants or puzzle pieces or trails marked with the labels: personal, academic, community, country. Each area could be labeled with three steps for achieving goals in those areas. It might make sense to focus on personal and academic so community and country goals come more readily.

* Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals.

...parents have every right to worry about their children being used as Political Guinea Pigs for Change.

No, Michelle, they pretty much don't! If we could all think practically for a moment, let me tell you how all of that stuff is going to play out. Students will be invited to maybe do some of this work, but within 24 hours, it will all be mostly forgotten about and never brought up again. Students will be concentrating on the actual schoolwork for which they receive actual grades. Teachers won't have the time to monitor the progress of any of this because they'll be too busy teaching to a battery of evaluation tests, to save their jobs and their schools' funding. A few students, real brownnosey types, might follow through with these ancillary assignments because they figure that doing so might help them get into college. They'll be wrong about that.

Oh, and there are also examples of fringey types equating the outreach effort to the Civilian National Security Force and "Hitler youth brigades" and admonishing, "Leave our kids alone!" It's like the right wing blogosphere went home, dosed themselves with mescaline and sat around watching History Channel reruns on mute while Pink Floyd's The Wall played in the background.

And now, conservatives are encouraging parents to keep their kids home from school that day. From Newsmax:

The fascist in chief is taking his special brand of brainwashing to the classroom. Keep your kids home. I think this man is a threat to our basic unalienable rights. I don't want him indoctrinating my children. Seriously.

Seriously!

Anyway, here are a lot of actual facts, that Jake Tapper rounded up by doing sensible reporting.

The part of the busywork materials that scared so many right-wingers, where kids are encouraged to "Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president," has been changed. Instead, kids are encouraged to "Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short‐term and long‐term education goals." Tapper reports: "The idea, [White House spokesman Tommy] Vietor said, was that students should think of how they could help the President in terms of reducing the national dropout rate."

And the content of the speech? Uhm...it's all pretty innocuous, actually!

"The goal of the speech and the lesson plans is to challenge students to work hard in school, to not drop out and to meet short-term goals like behaving in class, doing their homework and goals that parents and teachers alike can agree are noble," a White House spokesman tells ABC News, "This isn't a policy speech. This is a speech designed to encourage kids to stay in school."

And the kicker? Watching the speech will be an optional activity. You know... like so many other aspects of totalitarian regimes!

Anyway, that's the state of the world today. If President Obama reminded people tomorrow to brush between meals, thousands of people would allow their teeth to rot right out of their heads, because OMGZ TEH SOCIALISM! The upside to all of this is that after Tuesday, every teacher in the world will know precisely what students are going to need remedial help.

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03:20 PM on 09/08/2009
I think this rises to the level - I don't want the president, nor the senate, nor the house of representatives, nor any other political entity to tell my children anything that I don't want them to hear - I don't know those people from Adam - Why would I allow YOU to vouch for these people? You say they are okay, but I don't think so. That is why when I tell the president of the US to butt the hell out of my kids education, that I mean it. Our politicians have been notorious over the last many administrations for not only being liars, but thieves.
07:04 PM on 09/08/2009
Did you at least listen to the speech? I also question why you would make this statement at 3:20PM , three hours after the speech was given. I watched it, read the transcript on line - it has been available since yesterday, and found nothing even remotely disconcerting, yet three hours AFTER this address you seem to be questioning the motives?
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nicole473
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11:57 AM on 09/09/2009
The right wingers come in "behind" us, and post their cr.ap. and responses to our posts, once they think we are no longer paying attention. That way, their posts go unchallenged.

If you go back through this thread, you will find a lot of this.

It surprised the he// out of me when I first figured it out, but it shouldn't have. After all, they st.ole 2 elections.......there is little they won't do, imo, to achieve their dubious goals.
06:26 AM on 09/09/2009
Then please take your children out of public education - perhaps a private school would be best.
11:53 AM on 09/08/2009
For hilarious biting satire about the ridiculous protests, check out http://www.thelintscreen.com
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nicole473
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12:29 PM on 09/08/2009
Luv it........good job!! :)
11:27 AM on 09/08/2009
34 minutes to go!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/live
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nicole473
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12:28 PM on 09/08/2009
Thanks for the link! It was great. Going to make my 19-year-old watch it when he comes home from college this weekend. :)
12:33 PM on 09/08/2009
CSPAN is doing live call in commentary, don't know for how long though. 12:33PM Eastern
05:14 AM on 09/08/2009
My kids followed the Primaries, Election and were allowed to 'vote.' They watched Inauguration and attended school only after watching it. This speech is the best Civics Lesson and patriotic action a student could do.
They snicker now when our former Governor Sarah Palin is ever mentioned on tv. They know who has the best interests of the nation at heart. My kids listen to the good intentions of our President and see the good works by Michelle Obama. Your daughters are exemplary role models.

The spine of the current WHITE HOUSE should stiffen with the knowledge that there are a majority of Americans who voted for change. If anyone needed health care attention-it is the Republican Party and I suggest they make sure they can pay for Mental Illness coverage.

Mr. Obama, I do not have to pre-screen what you want to say to my children. You have always been a wise gentleman beyond your years, fair and forever a patriot of our country. We have wanted to write you to invite you to the diverse state of Alaska. Now it is a warmer and more intelligent environment with Mrs. Palin's resignation. God Bless your staff, Michelle and yourself. You had hope and change for us, we have faith and belief in you and our democratic government. Thank you.
Don't let the NO and DOnothin' B-ds get you down. From Ruby, Alaska, waiting for OUR President to visit Alaska for the first time EVER.
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09:36 AM on 09/08/2009
Your comments go directly to the heart of the matter. That is, that our children matter, even to the President of the Unites States! I just saw on CNN, a Black Principle in Clairmont, N.C. capitulate to the racist elements of his state and county in particular, where McCain/Palin won 67% of the vote. The very huge sign at the schools roadside entrance was broadcasting a quote from Winston Churchill as if to say "the British are coming" to the rescue. Now, isn't it strange that our President is not allowed to make an address to this school, but Winston Churchill is! Seems quite obvious to me that if the President was as white as Churchill the objections would go away. Why are those parents of children who wish for their children to be allowed to view the president's speech not being as vocal. They pay the same taxes and should remind educators that many, many schools were shown live and in color participating in mock elections and even having children give political speeches during the 2008 election. Their excuses are such shams that it reeks of out right lies to put forth the political agenda of right wing extremists, which is to distract enough to prevent President Obama from being successful at making America whole.
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09:36 AM on 09/08/2009
People who see this for what it really is should remember these communities and refuse to spend their hard earned dollars in them. Racists have represented and been responsible for the worst evils in this country's history, and nothing has changed. Quoting Churchill doesn't make this principle any less a tool of racism!
04:56 AM on 09/08/2009
I haven't read the speech yet which President Obama will deliver tomorrow. I will have my two Alaskan children out of school for the first hour or more. I will also have our five year old grandson at home. At 8 am Alaska time the President will be speaking to the American schoolchildren across the country. Our village school opens at 8:30. This speech was written with young impressionable minds and hearts in mind on the topic of Education. Kids exactly like mine who entire future hangs on what they can get out of their K-12 public education.

Instead it is a Lesson in Civics, Faith in Leadership, Tolerance and mass hysteria on the part of most of the Republican Party, its mouthpieces, some mass media journatists and mindless right-wing citizen drones. Their bad over-reaction is shown throughout the world as The Ugly American Snydrome. I pity their ignorance and baseless fear. I fear their unbridled bigotry.

I will sit in my Alaskan home with these three impressionable children and we will savor every word what this impressive leader has prepared for us. We will respectfully listen. Later we will do some activities on the link given to us by our principal via the Dept. of Ed. We will listen to tv pundits and then off to school my two kids will go. They will be the better for it. A copy will be preserved in our bookcase as education is not limited to the schools.
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nicole473
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08:51 AM on 09/08/2009
GREAT post. Fanned and faved. I wish that more parents could read your commentary, because that is really what it is all about after all.

The idea that this good and decent man should not be allowed to speak to our children about the importance of responsibility and education, is utterly ludicrous and stems from only 2 things; ignorance and racism.

It is no less than completely appalling to me, and makes me ashamed to be a white American.

Thank you for your reasoned and heartfelt post.
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take10
10:25 AM on 09/08/2009
Ditto!
01:14 AM on 09/08/2009
Funny how the RNC/GOP Limbaugh and Murdoch lead "intellectual leadership" has a problem with our President encouraging our school children to be responsible citizens.

Yet it is admittedly far different from w trying to read "Our Pet Goat" to primary grade kids whilt the Trade Towers burned.
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nicole473
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08:58 AM on 09/08/2009
:) good point. I will forever remember the completely bald look on the face of Dubya as he received the news. I remember thinking that he had absolutely no idea as to how to react. "My Pet Goat" will forever be remembered along with this man, this unbelievably unqualified man, as an image juxtaposed behind the bu.rning towers.
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hulagirrrl
11:26 PM on 09/07/2009
Hawaii of all places is not airing the broadcast at their schools either, right along with these nutty states.
02:43 AM on 09/08/2009
I would assume that would be due to the massive difference in time zones.
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hulagirrrl
06:12 AM on 09/08/2009
No, the schools have internet and could show it from the website.
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nicole473
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05:02 PM on 09/07/2009
Pace77 I'm a Fan of Pace77 I'm a fan of this user permalink

Last time I'm gonna try this,

The only reason i would have preferred him to release it earlier is because there were lesson plans involved with it.

If there had been no lesson plans, I wouldn't have cared if he released the speech before or not.

If a teacher were to represent a lesson plan to someone to use, and not presented the material that the lesson plan was based on at the same time, that teacher would have issues using that lesson plan.

I really don't think that is being racist, its called proper education practice.

I'll even say this, the only people that truly had a right to know about the lesson plan were the teachers/a­dministrat­ors who might be using them. If they had never said there were a set of lesson plans, and quietly sent them to those positions, I'd have even been fine with that.

I am not advocating people's reaction, people pulling their kids out of school is ridiculous. But I am pointing out how 1-2 simple changes could have prevented all of this. Not even changes, just going about it a little differently.
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nicole473
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05:04 PM on 09/07/2009
Okay, couldn't get your post and my response in one post so this is my response.

I owe you an apology. I misunderstood one of your previous posts, and leaped to a conclusion which may not be correct at all.

I agree that it would have made planning easier for teachers had it been pre-released, even if only just to them.

On the other hand, I disagree completely that releasing it sooner would have done a thing for the vast majority of those who have been shrieking about it, the far right/religious right, because the reason for their fury was for two reasons only:
1. ignorance
2. racism

So, I apologize to you because I appear to have been wrong regarding your reasons for complaining, but, I make no apology to the remainder of the right wingers who made such a ridiculous major big deal out of this.
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nicole473
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05:07 PM on 09/07/2009
One last thing. He certainly should not have been required to release it at all prior to delivery.
05:43 PM on 09/07/2009
What I see, other than irrationaI people having a fit over a simple thing, is so called "reasonable" people second guessing everything. The is a lot of "he could have just done this" going around. The Obama administration even joins in saying they "didn't word it correctly".

There was nothing wrong with the way the White House handled implementing this. It was actually very well planned. They did not try to hide anything, putting the materials right out on the web site and even stating exactly what the speech was going to be about. They could not have been any more transparent. This is what Obama promised and he kept that promise here.

The fault rests soley with those right wingnuts who have politicized this simple address and dragged their own children into a political attack.
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I'M IN
03:42 PM on 09/07/2009
Republicans have become whackos! That's why they've lost their credibility.
03:13 PM on 09/07/2009
For anyone who is interested, I think there is something parents of all parties can learn from all this hoopla. Posted here:
http://tiny.cc/Wb5YB
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nicole473
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03:19 PM on 09/07/2009
Nola, most of us don't click on just any link. If you post a proper link, which tells us where we are going when and if we click on it, you might get someone to click.
03:23 PM on 09/07/2009
I read it, is a great point, though I'm sure most will ignore it as not applying to them
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nicole473
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04:30 PM on 09/07/2009
I read it. Just out of curiosity, Nola, would you mind sharing your political affiliation with us?
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02:49 PM on 09/07/2009
Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh is reaping 20 million dollar annual salary by progating hate, deceit and division to the American people. These big time entertainers are toxic waste to a normal society. The less than 10% of the population that continue supporting or are branwashed by these stooges should be informed that they are in the wrong side of isues. It is going to be a tough hurdle. But, they should know and understand that to stop beleiving and patronizing them should be for the best interest of everyone and for the country. Stop putting more money in their pockets.
02:57 PM on 09/07/2009
A bunch of advertisers have stopped running their shills on Glenn Becks infomisentertainment hour. If enough people contacted those advertisers and promised to boycott their wares or services unless they end supporting Orally, Hannity and ilk of their sort at FOX, they might make noise with Rupe' and Ailes. To those it is about $$$$$ not Sense and it has nothing to do with free speech infringment. It is bought and paid for propaganda with the biggest rip-off being the sad fact that we are paying for this garbage twice. Through the product / service and with the cable or satellite bill.
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nicole473
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03:04 PM on 09/07/2009
Exactly. I posted an informational post for those wishing to work at this on one of my blogs a while back.

http://indiedesign.typepad.com/inspire_political_discour/2009/08/boycott-fox-news-sponsors.html
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balmora
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03:45 PM on 09/07/2009
Remember though that their freedom of speech is guaranteed them under the first amendment, and even if you disagree with them 100%, there are millions of American's who don't share you're opinion or who at least want to hear the opposing view point. As an independent I am glad that I can hear the liberal view point and the conservative view point and then make what I feel is an informed decision. Any time you suggest that opposing view points should be silence you are expressing an idea that is so un-American that it deserves ridicule. The act of silencing opposing viewpoints is more dangerous the our individual freedom in this country then anything these people could say.
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nicole473
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04:02 PM on 09/07/2009
Actually, free speech has it's limits, and Beck, Limbaugh, et al, violate the legal limits of the first amendment daily.

You should probably watch the broadcasts you refer to before you decide to lecture anyone else.
06:18 PM on 09/07/2009
balmora, you are correct that the freedom of speech is protected under the first amendment (protected from government intervention, that is). However, there is no inherent right to be able to say just anything.

Many of the things put forward by Beck are not opinion. They are intentional sIander, faIse claims based on intentional misrepresentation of facts. They are designed to create irrationaI fear among a very unstable group of people. Some of the things Beck says are "FIRE!" in a crowded theater.

As has been pointed out, there is nothing preventing pressure from other citizens, who also have the right to their speech and opinions. Furthermore, there is a liability that each person carries for the things that they say. Beck has already incited real vioIence. A half hearted disclaimer does not change that. He is accountable for what he has said and continues to say.
02:48 PM on 09/07/2009
I would likely to roundly thank everyone here.

I am a moderate (not extremist) conservative. I had no objection to him speaking to the children, just the way his administration went about doing it. If I had children I wouldn't have even thought for a second to pull them so they couldn't see his speech.

However, at the heart I am still a moderate conservative Christian. That being said.

Thank you for calling me ignorant, racist, prejudiced, hateful, and basically the problem with everything in our world. I am sorry that I have a mind with my own thoughts, that lies somewhere between your views and the far lefts. I am sorry that because I am not a Democrat, I am automatically extremist right, and that unfortunately everyone of my views are those you perceive to be right along with Beck, Limbaugh and others.

I thank you for pushing all the hate on me, as I now realize that not only are the far right people crazy, but now I realize I can not have a dissenting opinion without something being wrong with me.
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nicole473
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02:57 PM on 09/07/2009
Ah, over simplify the issue in order to make us feel remorseful. Good ploy.

FYI, when we heap terms such as "ignorant, racist, prejudiced, hateful, et al" on right wingers, we are speaking to the religious right/the far right. If that is you, no apology would I care to offer to a group that is completely DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY.

If you were truly a moderate, you would not have been concerned about the speech at all. I have conservative friends who are just as appalled by this as I am, and dislike the far right even more than I do.
03:57 PM on 09/07/2009
You may not be heaping those terms on everyone, but the majority of people do not distinguish between right and far right. Simply, they use the term Republicans.

Thank you for telling me how I can be classified as a moderate, shows a lot of insight telling me where I stand, of course that is what everyone in this thread has been doing.

YOU may not be grouping all of those in, but read back through all of the posts here and see how many people are just lumping anyone right of center as whackos, racists, etc.

For the record my only problem was with the lesson plans, not with him speaking. I have no problem with the president speaking with our children, as many children have before. I have presented this issue elsewhere, solely on the lesson plan, and the response was that it was cleverly shrouded racism.
05:56 PM on 09/07/2009
Pace77, this forum is overrun with mean spirited, brainwashed, sophomoric fools. Spend your time elsewhere.
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nicole473
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07:20 PM on 09/07/2009
LOL. because we dislike the behavior of certain right wingers, we are all that? Okay, I can live with that. :)
01:27 PM on 09/07/2009
I just read the Presidents speech, posted here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/

and defy anyone to see anything wrong with anything he has to say.
It is also a shame that those on the wrong side of this debate, the rabid right wingers such as Beck, Limbaugh, Orally and the rest, were able to persuade the White House into pre-releasing this address to our students. This had never been done before.
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nicole473
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02:18 PM on 09/07/2009
Thanks for the link. It's a good speech. I suspect that the righties will manage to twist something in order to be able to complain.
02:24 PM on 09/07/2009
Wouldn't surprise me, even though I honestly hope that the general populus on the right will have more decency than to spin this. Education IS too important of a subject to be spun for political gain.
Glenn Beck on the other hand might be fun to watch. Maybe with some "herbal" stimulation Beck and Orally might have comic value. ;-)
01:17 PM on 09/07/2009
I find it absolutely appalling the DISRESPECT FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES these people are teaching their children. I've lived in this country all my life and I've always been taught to respect our president, no matter whether we agreed or disagreed with him. Always, always show respect for the president. If it's not racism, then someone please tell me what it is? Tell me so I can understand and tell my school-age grandchildren, who's excited to hear President Obama's speech. . If they show this much disrespect for the president, I can't imagine the disrespect they're teaching their kids about everyday African Americans, male and female. These people should be absolutely ashamed of themselves and to call themselves Christians. What a joke. But God sees all and he knows all.
01:39 PM on 09/07/2009
Id like to ask God why obama revised his speech, and took out his suggested activity, "how can i help my president?"
01:49 PM on 09/07/2009
President Obama did not revise the speech, it was the "suggested" topics for teachers that were revised. And why would it be so bad for Americans help their president in the first place, or do only republican Presidents deserve help from the citizenry? While I despised much of President Bush's policies, from the war of choice agains Iraq to the dismal domestic policies, I at least hoped he'd succeed in bettering our Nation as this country belongs to ALL of us, including President Obama, who was born in the 50th State of the Nation two years after Hawaii's admission to the Country!
Also try using the "shift key", it will allow you to capitalize the first letter of the President's name, rather than the lower case "disrespect" you chose to show.
02:19 PM on 09/07/2009
Well, ask God and tell us all what he said. Better yet, why don't you ask President Obama himself. What's wrong with getting suggestions from the future leaders, probably a future president. Our President, who has children of his own, will not steer children in the wrong direction. If he wanted to "brainwash"children, he would be home schooling his two children.
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balmora
Liberals = feel good solutions that don't work
03:50 PM on 09/07/2009
Throughout the course of history there has arisen people to power and position that were not worthy of the respect of those they governed. Let us not forget this lesson.
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03:55 PM on 09/07/2009
THat lesson has nothing to do with this thread.
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01:13 PM on 09/07/2009
They are already batty, do this on a weekly basis and we should be able to commit them all to the loony bin in short order.