Opposing Obama's School Speech Isn't Partisan -- It's Just Crazy

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First Posted: 09- 8-09 03:23 PM   |   Updated: 09- 9-09 10:38 AM

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This is what happens when you amplify insanity and call it by another name.

Earlier this morning, President Barack Obama gave his planned address to the nation's schoolchildren. This caps off a ridiculous period of time in the life of our Republic, in which a number of people completely lost their minds at the prospect of Obama talking to children about the importance of education, and the media -- to its great discredit -- pointed cameras at them and treated them as if they were sane.

With the address now behind us, the claims made by opponents of the address look more absurd than ever. And yet it should have never come to this point. To suggest that it is at all controversial, let alone nefarious, for the President to address the nation's youth is clearly demented. There is no other word for it. When the media was confronted by the "Birthers" and their bizarre assertion that Obama was not an American citizen, the media -- well, at least most of it -- rightly proclaimed the absurdity. Objections to Obama's address were, similarly, evidence of a great dementia loosed upon the nation. But in this case, even with all the clarity brought by the advance publication of Obama's speech, the political press somehow woke up this morning still wrestling with how to properly define the strange reaction to Obama's address.

Already today, I have heard this matter discussed in terms of how it's a product of "hyperpartisanship" and a demonstration of a larger "polarization" of the political discourse. This is more pointless mystification of the issue.

I have no idea where the idea of partisanship, let alone "hyperpartisanship," even enters into the story. This would imply that at the root of Obama's address is a core issue on which two parties have taken sides. It's not clear what that issue is. Chuck Todd attempted to establish a narrative this afternoon that it derives from differences of opinion on whether we should have a Department of Education. I have no idea where he's pulled that from. It's not from the address! The core issue elucidated in Obama's speech is that children should apply themselves in school, do their homework, take personal responsibility, and not drop out of school. If there is a group of people who believe children should do the opposite, we need to hear from them before we call this a product of "hyperpartisanship."

I'm similarly taken aback at those who wistfully opine that all of this is more sad evidence of the "polarization" of American politics. Now, certainly, the political discourse is, at times, highly polarized. But hey, you want to know a quick and easy way to polarize a discussion? Allow the yelpings of a bunch of insane people to occupy one of the poles!

THIS is what this story was: A bunch of lunatics made a bunch of claims about this address that were stupidly premised and borne of the same stuff as Birtherism: the simple desire to abolish Obama's existence and deny that the office of the president has any authority under his hand. If the media cannot figure this out, they deserve a failing grade.

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- rlugbill I'm a Fan of rlugbill 8 fans permalink

I have a problem with the President's speech. I don't think children should learn for the sake of the country, but for their own sake. We should be producing enlightened, thinking human beings, not providing corporations with compliant workers and consumers who support the Empire and its wars.

Here are some excerpts that I disagree with:

"What you make of your education will decide nothing less than the future of this country. What you’re learning in school today will determine whether we as a nation can meet our greatest challenges in the future."

"You’ll need the creativity and ingenuity you develop in all your classes to build new companies that will create new jobs and boost our economy."

"We need every single one of you to develop your talents, skills and intellect so you can help solve our most difficult problems. If you don’t do that – if you quit on school – you’re not just quitting on yourself, you’re quitting on your country."

"What will a president who comes here in twenty or fifty or one hundred years say about what all of you did for this country?"

So kids, study hard so America can win more wars and build more big corporations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 09/09/2009
- Dunelm I'm a Fan of Dunelm 14 fans permalink

I understand why you might not agree with some appeals to patriotism in the speech; however, hard facts would tell us that the United States is falling behind in basic scientific research. Not all research is about war and profit--we need to catch up on environmental research, biological research, and on and on. Also, it surely helps any country if its children stay in school, and then learn how to think critically.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 09/09/2009
- raechel I'm a Fan of raechel 21 fans permalink

Hmmm... greatest challenges such as solving our energy problems, reversing climate change, finding a way to provide a decent life for all of our citizens (as in health care, for example), finding a way to peacefully co-exist in the world of nations ...

Yes, he says "build new companies" and I agree with you that megacorporations are not the answer for our future, but I don't see President Obama advocating a life in corporate cubicles anywhere.

And long story short, we are doomed if we continue to do everything for ourselves rather than for our local and larger communities. I think we now know the cost of a few decades of self-indulgence. And of course, being an enlightened and thinking person is not mutually exclusive with contributing to one's community and country. I'd argue that the two are mutually essential.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 09/09/2009
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Good post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 09/09/2009
- ReedYoung I'm a Fan of ReedYoung 134 fans permalink
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Excellent. All I have to add on the subject of corporate welfare is that the most logical inference to make from President Obama's suggestion to "build new companies" is that he considers some or all of the companies that we already have to be at least partially inadequate. For somebody to take the same speech and portray it like rlugbill did, as too corporatist, or corporatist at all, is just ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 09/10/2009

I'm a company - me and two cats. Self-employed for 30 years. The feline staff gets free room and board plus medical. There are many like me.

Our future as a country really does depend on those kids. We are very wobbly about educating our children to not only live in a high-tech society but to be able to maintain the technology and solve technological problems. American science depends on scientists and engineers trained elsewhere precisely because we can't produce enough of our own. As our economy spins downward and Homeland Security gets more paranoid about "foreigners", that vital source of technical talent is drying up.

As a college physics teacher, I saw students barely able to read normal text, much less technical text. I saw college seniors who thought 1/2 of a pie plus 1/5 of a pie was 1/7 of a pie. I couldn't make up for their wasted years pre-college in the short time available.

We can't afford any more people who, like President Reagan, believe that ballistic missiles, once launched, can be easily recalled. We need citizens who can find Iraq on a map and know that real people like us live there who have real history and culture and who don't like the chaos of foreign invasion and occupation any more than we would. Education is key, because people who don't know enough will let politicians decide to waste our money and our lives in endless war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 09/10/2009
- noradunn I'm a Fan of noradunn 18 fans permalink

American politics has always been brutally partisan. It's really the 24 hour news phenomenon that has drawn the sides so darkly. Ranting kooks who would be ignored on most street corners are suddenly center stage. I agree that the town hall meetings were hiyjacked by an ultra right wing campaign and drew out every hostile libertaria­n/bigot/Ev­angelic. But to paint the "outrage" at Obama speaking to school kids as unprecedented is not true. As a liberal, I objected to Reagan talking to school kids, and he made a fool of himself. I didn't like seeing HW Bush do it, and George Bush, well, we all saw what happened while he was reading the goat book to children on 9/11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 09/09/2009
- kemo5 I'm a Fan of kemo5 4 fans permalink

I'm pretty sure that the reason for this insanity is simply the followers of conservative tv and radio buying into the Obama hatred. People who follow these propagandists responded on cue to the fear that they subscribe to.

I think half of them honestly felt that their kids might be exposed to indoctrination. The other half may be grounded in reality, but were probably afraid that their kids might walk away liking the president of the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 09/09/2009
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You progressives hold down the fort, keep those wingnuts in check until I get back. I'm gonna get on my bike and burn a lot of calories. Back later, at which point I will re-light my torch, pick up the pitchfork and again assist with keeping the wingnuts at bay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 09/09/2009
- DanGreen I'm a Fan of DanGreen 7 fans permalink

How much more proof do we need that we reap what we sow?
I agree the people who objected to Obama's school speech are nut cases. I also believed the people who objected to George Bush's 1991 school speech were nutcases. Dick Gephart's head almost exploded. "The president should be doing more about education than saying, 'Lights, camera, action,'" he was quoted as saying in the Washington Post. Investigations were launched by two Democrat-controlled House committees. Pat Schroeder called it outrageous that the White House should "use our precious dollars for campaigns." And so on.
One of our political parties is going to have to get on the high ground some day. One always hopes it will be the Democrats. But we're being plain old hypocritical to bash those who criticize Obama's speech, given our own record in an identical situation. Let's just move on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 09/09/2009
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What I derive most from this insanity (which follows up the "town hall" insanity of a few weeks ago), is that the SANE people need to get our voice heard! It is typical for us to just sit back and gawk at the circus side-show, but we seriously have got to start letting SANITY be heard!!!!! I will absolutely speak up loud and clear and have already started looking for as many outlets as I can find to combat this ridicule of the human race. The trick is that we have to keep our sanity, yet let our voices be heard. You in?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 09/09/2009
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Let me make sure I understand this Jamie. When liberals march, protest, break windows, and get arrested in the streets outside of the RNC, it's an exercise in democracy?

When Republicans get loud at town hall meetings, it's "insanity" and a "circus side-show?"
What a disgusting double standard you people on the left have.

I seem to recall the left getting really ticked, even calling for a hearing when Bush 41 addressed school children. Why the double standard? It's ok for democrats to get upset when a Republican addresses school children, but not ok for republican's to get upset when a democrat addresses school children?
I can't wait to hear your explanation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItLqQPTyvGo
http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=3450

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 09/09/2009
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Did "liberals" also carry guns to city halls where people where invited to debate and where the President was present? Did "liberals" pull their children out of the schools? Who has double standards here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 09/09/2009
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Would that be sane people who think animals should be allowed to file legal action against people? Sane people who think CO2, which humans exhale and commercial greenhouses pump in because it benefits plants, should be regulated like pollution? Would it possibly be sane people who held a séance in the white house to contact a first lady from the past? Sane people who not only believe unborn life is worthless, but that toddlers and old people are worthless too? Tell me more about the sane people. Oh I know, is it the sane people who screamed foul when the Bush administration listened in on the phone calls of terrorists but are fine with a health care bill that gives the government access to the bank accounts of citizens? Perhaps it's the same sane people who are against capital punishment and hunting wolves from the air, but have no problem with a partial birth abortion? Please Jamie, tell me more about these sane people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 09/09/2009

The suggestion that there is something wrong with a "How can I help the President?" lesson plan was possibly the most offensive part of the whole insane controversy. What has this country become when people are teaching their children that helping our properly elected leader do a good job serving the country is somehow wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 09/09/2009

What is wrong with the liberal media? This post and the half dozen "Obama Speech" posts on this site are perfect examples. There was nothing wrong with his speech. It was very conservative, and contradicted many of his policy moves to date. (Have to fail in order to learn to succeed...doesn't apply to industry with unions or campaign contributers...but I digress.)

However, the written and spoken words of his speech were not what was originally planned. Originally, he wanted students to pledge their support to Obama and write a letter how they can help him. He also was preparing lesson plans that teachers should use with his speech. And with healthcare reform, climate change and other hot topics, who knew what he was going to say?

Obama got the message and changed his speech. Anyone who heard it or read it agrees that the final version ended up being harmless. You don't want to report the news if it's not slanted towards the left.

I'm more upset by those who didn't want their kids to hear the speech. Just because you disagree doesn't mean you should cover your ears and hold your breath 'til it's over. If he says something and it's wrong, you should hear it and speak up against it. Running away is a Liberal tactic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 09/09/2009
- Laserbeam I'm a Fan of Laserbeam 38 fans permalink

Please get your facts straight before opining.

The speech was NOT changed; the lesson plan was.

Bush Sr. as President asked school kids to write to him and tell him how they could help him enact his policies. He went on at some length about energy policy, in fact. His speech was shortly before Election Day when he was running for re-election.

One more thing: "liberal media" is a myth that has been discredited over and over again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 09/09/2009

It wasn't changed because Obama decided to post it the day before?

Liberal media is more of a fact than a myth. However, it can't control the stream of information anymore because of the internet. Look how it portrayed tax day protestors, and people concrened with the currenthealth care reform bills. Anyone who disagrees is a redneck, or racist, or part of a mob, or an extremist. In another post on this website, Nazi, Soicalist and Comunist are code words for racial slurs.

George W. was called a Nazi too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 09/09/2009
- NoWMDs I'm a Fan of NoWMDs 11 fans permalink
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Where were you when George H.W. Bush gave his education speech to school children in 1991? Here is an excerpt of what he said:

"Let me know how you’re doing. Write me a letter — and I’m serious about this one — write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals. I think you know the address".

This is exactly what President Obama wanted to ask of the students, so why the double standard???
I believe the schools and the parents who did not want the speech to be heard are BRAINWASHED by the likes of Rush, Hannity, Beck and O'Reilly, plus the fact they can't get over their party LOST to an intelligent community organizer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 09/09/2009
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Probably playing Nintendo. 1991 was a lot of years ago. Yeow, I can't believe how old I am. Where is my walker? Somebody get the DeSoto out of the garage. Put Sinatra on the record player.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 09/09/2009
- Laserbeam I'm a Fan of Laserbeam 38 fans permalink

I notice that Tellyprompter hasn't responded to either of us, except to object to my use of the word "racist".

*crickets*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 09/09/2009
- Laserbeam I'm a Fan of Laserbeam 38 fans permalink

I live about ten minutes north of Seattle. The speech was not shown to my high schooler. When I phoned the school to complain this morning, they said a directive had come from the Superintendant stating the teachers had the "option" of showing it or not showing it. Was my youngster given the "option" of watching the speech? NO.

To my mind that is not optional. I told them I was incensed and said that as parents we are trying to raise prodictive members of society, and that disrespecting the Office of the President does NOT set a good example. I added that it smacked of racism and that I was deeply offended.

The Superintendant will be the next one to hear from me, and after that, since I don't think I'll be any less angry, I may write a letter to the editor of a couple of local newspapers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 09/09/2009
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSS please do! It's about time rational parents made their voices known, loud and clear! It has gotten to the point now where the most illiterate and undereducated are dictating to the schools??

Dumbed down parents are urging the schools to dumb down their kids???

Time for sanity to prevail here ... we don't need a bunch of illiterate kids, unable to think, incapable of evaluating ideas and information to be those who vote in another bumbling fool like bush ...

Education is NOT an elitist goal !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 09/09/2009
- aofh I'm a Fan of aofh 13 fans permalink

"Dumbed down parents are urging the schools to dumb down their kids"

I think you mean dumb-downed parents are urging the schools to dumb down everyone's kids.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 09/09/2009

Stop with the racism crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 09/09/2009
- Laserbeam I'm a Fan of Laserbeam 38 fans permalink

I'll stop calling it racism when it stops BEING racism, and not until then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 09/09/2009
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I'm sure when the right stops their racist behavior -- such as in this instance -- the progressives will stop what you call our "racism crap."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 09/09/2009
- CindiT I'm a Fan of CindiT 5 fans permalink

I applaud you, Laserbeam! I sent an email to the superintendant of a local school district in SE Michigan who "decided" not to air the speech, telling him he should be ashamed of himself. He responded that although he heard from parents on both sides, he thought it would be best not to air it because it is really up to the parents to decide (obviously, he thought the nutcase parents were the ones to decide). With educators like him, no wonder this country is producing stupid adults. And I agree, it does indeed smack of racism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 09/09/2009

I am fighting the same fight in Las Vegas. I have been told that I was the only parent who called in support of their child hearing the speech. It is the next day, my kiddos did not see it at school so I am still fighting the fight!!

We were given no choice on this. Fear won once again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 09/09/2009
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Yo DesertFlame...your comment from yesterday about the Las Vegas schools not carrying Obama's speech...I hope you don't mind but I copied that into an email and sent it directly to all members of the Clark County School Board. I received confirmation today that it was delivered to them all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 09/09/2009
- MYSTERIOUS I'm a Fan of MYSTERIOUS 27 fans permalink
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I wish he would have recited that speech to my class. Since he's only a year younger than me, I guess it wouldn't have happened. :)

I didn't like Bush. He earned that. But if he would have given a speech like that, I would not in my wildest dreams behaved like the loosers over on Fox. Keith did a montage of their folks comments combined with Obama's speech. Fox looks so ignorant. I wonder how they will spin their ignorance. I don't have the stomache (nor do I want to waste my electricity tuning into Fox). If anyone knows the spin, let me know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 09/09/2009
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The spin from the looney fringe is that he changed his "indoctrination" speech, deleted all the bad stuff because of pressure from them. See? In their weak minds, they won again. That's how they play everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 09/09/2009
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That's cuz they're so mavericky.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 09/09/2009
- HeartT I'm a Fan of HeartT 28 fans permalink

This is what happens when you amplify crazy and call it by another name.

What a profoundly true assessment. Get it together America. Stop watching and listening to the garbage on FOX and other news stations. You're acting like crazy people as a result.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 09/09/2009
- foxfan I'm a Fan of foxfan 18 fans permalink

Does anyone other than me remember when President Bush (41) made a speech to school children and the Democrats of the day called for an investigation? What goes around comes around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 09/09/2009

It's already been pointed out here many times. There are significant differences:
Conservatives wigged out *before* Obama even gave his speech, and kept kids home from school.
Also, Bush invoked items of POLITICAL POLICY in his speech, and Obama did not.
Other than that, same thing, I guess...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 09/09/2009
- gotborked I'm a Fan of gotborked 42 fans permalink

Conservatives "wigged out" before the speech because of the creepy, imbecilic support materials that were pre-released.
The creepiness was acknowledged and mitigated by the administration, but who knows what would have gone on (and what parts of the speech would have remained) if the "paranoid" parents hadn't spoken up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 09/09/2009
- mizani I'm a Fan of mizani 6 fans permalink
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I remember when the Dems had no problem with the speech until they actually heard it. Unlike the people who completely manufactured a controversy that ended up being completely unfounded.

I'm not quite sure what you're remembering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 09/09/2009
- foxfan I'm a Fan of foxfan 18 fans permalink

Just what I said. I appreciated the additional detail you provided.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 09/09/2009
- Laserbeam I'm a Fan of Laserbeam 38 fans permalink

I sent my child to school not liking that she was going to be watching Bush but feeling it was important to show respect for the Office of the President.

We discussed it when my child got home, at child's request.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 09/09/2009
- raechel I'm a Fan of raechel 21 fans permalink

I kind of take the first amendment and civic responsibility seriously. So I always made my children watch Presidential speeches. I vehemently disagreed with President Bush 2's policies and cringed through his speeches (how embarrassing), but how are children to learn if they aren't exposed to a variety of opinions and ideas? And how will they learn to think critically if they aren't exposed to political speech, advertising, and untruth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 09/09/2009
- Laserbeam I'm a Fan of Laserbeam 38 fans permalink

The Bush speech was MANDATORY watching for my child. The Obama speech was not.

I call that disrespectful and racist, especially since Obama didn't talk policy in his speech, unlike Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 09/09/2009
- Knowitall I'm a Fan of Knowitall 74 fans permalink

That 1988 Reagan speech was even worse. He talked about nuclear proliferation, the Sandanistas and cutting taxes among other things. Except for opening with "just say "no" The speech didn't relate to the lives of those students at all. (The eyes of the kids in the audience glazed over. ) Perhaps that was why a few Democrats were up in arms when George H.W. Bush decided to make what could have been a similar speech in 1991 to school children.

Had Pres. Obama decided to talk to K through 12 kids about health reform, cap and trade, economic stimulus, etc., we ALL should have been upset. But there was NO INDICATION at all that the President intended to do that.

He was an educator, he has children, he's given dozens of speeches to graduating classes as well as school children. There was never any danger that he was going to talk politics.

REpublicans are becoming like the boy who cried "Wolf" After awhile, most Americans are going to catch on, and stop listening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 09/09/2009

Quite the controversy, huh?

"With the address now behind us, the claims made by
opponents of the address look more absurd than ever.
And yet it should have never come to this point."

And this is where I disagree. Thank God it did come to
this point and I hope it gets even more bizarre.
Something needs to occur in order to jolt these people
back to their senses. And it must be so obvious that
only a blind person can't see the connections.

Bush, Cheney & Company have infused their followers
with so much fear of the world they live in but seemingly
can no longer trust that they now strike out at anything
that moves. Yet 'their own fear can help to promote the
very eventuality they fear.'

"There is a short-circuiting process in which even good
intentions are distorted and turned to other purposes.
That which is feared is feared so strongly and concentrated
upon so intensely that it is attracted rather than repelled.
Desire attracts but fear also attracts."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 09/09/2009
- CtJean I'm a Fan of CtJean 9 fans permalink

Now compare this speech with the lil shrub reading "My Pet Goat" to first graders while America was being attacked and prez cheney was in seclusion (hiding)

Amen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 09/09/2009

I swear, I've seen more of Cheney in the months since Shrub left office than in the 7 years previously....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 09/09/2009
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This was in the Columbus, Ohio, =Dispatch= (Bravo, Joanne Williams):

New Albany-Plain schools did not show the speech live, but officials said they would review it and ask for parental permission if they decide to show it later.

For parent Joanne Williams, that wasn't good enough.

She parked her SUV outside New Albany's high- and middle-school campus and played the speech on its radio. Williams and about 10 other parents and their children listened from underneath a flagpole.

The kids returned to class after the speech.

"To suggest that there would be anything threatening from our president? It's the greatest contradiction," said Joanne Williams, 51, who has seven children including four in the New Albany school district.

(New Albany is a wealthy suburb northeast of Columbus, Ohio. Home of Les Wexner.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 09/09/2009
- LaMees I'm a Fan of LaMees 2 fans permalink

God love her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 09/09/2009
- Laserbeam I'm a Fan of Laserbeam 38 fans permalink

Yay, Joanne!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 09/09/2009

Good for Joanne! There were originally several other districts that were going to cancel but then backed down. Also in Columbus... after all the hoopla and an on/off/on stance from a local suburban school district, the dispatch reported that out of 1600 students in one of their high schools, less than 16 opted out. At least the school system came to their senses and didn't bow down to the loud, vocal minority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 09/09/2009
- den1953 I'm a Fan of den1953 50 fans permalink
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Hey my grandson came home from school he is eight and he was mad as a hornet that just got sprayed by Raid at the President he liked the speech up until it cut into his recess!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 09/09/2009
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