The Trouble With Max Baucus: It's Not The Plan, It's The Planning

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First Posted: 09- 8-09 04:55 PM   |   Updated: 09- 8-09 06:41 PM

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Matt Yglesias takes an analytic look at the health care reform plan proffered by Max Baucus today, and while he beseeches his readers to remember his bona fides as a Max Baucus detractor, he nevertheless concludes that "a lot of the blog response to this proposal is overblown" and that there's "no reason to think that the system envisioned by Baucus would be either a political or a substantive disaster":

Instead, it would create something comparable to the situation that currently prevails in Switzerland or Massachusetts. Is that great? No, it's not. Health care in Massachusetts is substantial worse than health care in any number of foreign countries. That said, the Massachusetts health care system is better than the health care system that exists in any other American state. Similarly, if it were up to me Switzerland is about the last country I would choose to emulate. In terms of excessive costs--spending that lines the pockets of medical providers with little real medical benefit--it's worse that everyone except . . . the United States of America.

In short, the status quo is bad, Baucus' plan would make it better by the slimmest of incremental degrees, and at the end of the day, a net gain is a net gain. What I think Matt is eliding over is the fact that Max Baucus' plan doesn't go any further than it does for a reason. That reason? Max Baucus' plan has been bought and paid for by industry lobbyists.

From the Sunlight Foundation, June 22, 2009:

Lobbying disclosure filings for the first quarter of 2009 reveal that five of Baucus' former staffers currently work for a total of twenty-seven different organizations that are either in the health care or insurance sector or have a noted interest in the outcome. The organizations represented include some of the top lobbying organizations in the health sector: Pharmaceutical Manufacturers and Researchers of America (PhRMA), America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), Amgen, and GE Health Care.


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The overall health and insurance sectors haven't just been kind to Baucus' staffers, but they've also aided his campaigns handsomely over the years, especially in his barely contested 2008 reelection campaign. In 2008, Baucus received $1,148,775 from the health sector and $285,850 from the insurance sector. For his career he has received $2,797,381 from the health sector and $1,170,313 from the insurance sector.

And this is precisely why Baucus' plan is such weak tea. Any ambition to craft a more effective policy or even shift in a larger incremental direction is entirely offset by millions of dollars of war chest money. And when one compares the money Baucus has taken in from his constituents versus the money he's raised from outside interests, it's hard to make the case that Baucus is authentically driven in his decisions to represent the citizens who have elected him. NPR's Andrea Seabrook breaks this down:

When Baucus ran for his sixth term last year, his campaign raised $11.6 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Nearly half of the funds came from out-of-state donors, including millions from health care and other industries overseen by Finance and Baucus' other committees.


Just 13 percent of Baucus' re-election funds came from Montana donors.

The "substantive disaster" here lies not in Baucus' sausage, but in the process by which it was cooked up, and if you swallow the former, you risk choking on the latter.


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Matt Yglesias takes an analytic look at the health care reform plan proffered by Max Baucus today, and while he beseeches his readers to remember his bona fides as a Max Baucus detractor, he neverthel...
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- ImissBush I'm a Fan of ImissBush 35 fans permalink
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its not the sin..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 09/10/2009
- fishgirl26 I'm a Fan of fishgirl26 21 fans permalink
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AS A MONTANAN..I am extremely upset as to how Sen. Baucus is handling this whole thing. BCBS has their nose so far up his keister that he'll do whatever they want. Mr. Baucus for MONTANANS (you remember us right...the people who ELECTED YOU) give up the plan of fining people who can't afford insurance (this would be roughly 1/3 of MONTANANS..yup, us...the ones who elected you!) and put in a strong public option w/ NO triggers. Do what's right for MONTANANS (yes, us...you do represent 800,000 people and not pharma or BCBS!) and give us a strong public option.

Thanks Max....signed MONTANANS (and..oh yeah..GO GRIZ!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 09/09/2009
- gd h I'm a Fan of gd h 8 fans permalink
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As long as a senator can fool some of the people some of the time (which shell is the pea under THIS time?) then he'll still be senator whether or not he's doing anything for you. Everybody has to come together...this is strictly a "divide and conquor" strategy; kicking the ball down the road, charading it's way toward nothing, or "a subsantial improvement"? Wow. One that will take the issue off the table for the next 30 years? That's just GREAT!! Vote for ME.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 09/22/2009
- Dale Larson I'm a Fan of Dale Larson 207 fans permalink
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It's time to end our "risky experiment" of "For-profit health insurance". It's a proven failure.

HR676 (http://hr676.org) Single Payer system that is proven, pro-business and pro-people:

* Slashes at least 30% of costs off the top by removing private insurance overhead.
* Companies take health care expenses off their books. Stock value increases. Better able to compete internationally.
* Small companies could have access to higher skilled workers because previously they couldn't compete in the labor market by offering similar benefits.
* More entrepreneurial ventures will launch since they have more money and less unrelated risk.
* Dramatic drop in bankruptcies.
* Dramatic drop in lawsuits. Most of these lawsuits are simply to obtain money to cover health care if something interrupts their coverage.
* Reduced system complexity. Greater efficiency due to fewer regulations.
* Savings from employees not having to fight with their insurers during work hours.
* HSA and MSA dollars redirected back into the economy for goods and services.
* Additional money to spend from not having to carry "uninsured motorist coverage" on your auto policy.
* Contract employment is more viable for workers since they are guaranteed access to health care.
* People are covered when unemployed. No chance of being wiped out financially if you lose your job.
* Health care providers (doctors, hospitals, therapists...) see increase in business with much less administrative expense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 09/09/2009
- ImaLibDem I'm a Fan of ImaLibDem 3 fans permalink

Does anyone think that his proposal to charge his donors for Healthcare reform a small price for them to pay to maintain their stranglehold on Americans and possibly one that they themselves came up with? And the fines for Americans who still cannot afford health insurance -- Are these the punishment that the 'donors' and good ol' Max want imposed upon us for the crime of trying to stay alive when we don't even have the cash to do that? Max - you need to check out of the democratic party and take the over lobbied bluedogs with you. The party of opportunists must love you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 09/09/2009
- BeauRadley I'm a Fan of BeauRadley 13 fans permalink

The trouble with Max is he's bought by the insurance companies. Period

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 09/09/2009
- NJmikeV I'm a Fan of NJmikeV 50 fans permalink

Max is,as we say in Jersey, is on the take.

Hopefully,Act Blue will have a donor page for his opponent when this back bencher is up for reelection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 09/09/2009
- mdlw I'm a Fan of mdlw 37 fans permalink

Reading the article linked below, I learned that the history of health care began for the most part in the 1920s by Baylor Hospital in Dallas. The administrator created a system that eventually evolved into Blue Cross. Blue Cross was essentially a non-profit health insurer with no restrictions that served a community in exchange for a tax break. In the 1940s, commercial insurers entered the field. Private insurers accelerated when businesses wanted to compete for labor by contracting with insurers to get around a wage control.

Truman proposed a national health care plan but was defeated by opponents because the nonprofit sector was doing just fine. Yet, as the private insurers entered the business, they rejiggered premiums by calculating relative risk, and avoided the riskiest potential customers. To survive, the Blues evolved into a for profit corporation as well.

I learned from the article that a socialist system became a capitalist system where CEOs are now making millions while cutting corners for profit. Those corners are lives. I agree with the author, capitalism cannot deliver decent health care. This country needs a single payer insurance program.

The following article by Tim Noah discusses Jonathan Cohn's new book.
http://www.slate.com/id/2161736/

CEO info
http://sickforprofit.com/ceos/

http://sickforprofit.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 09/09/2009
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Isn't the problem Max?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 09/09/2009
- EndTheEcho I'm a Fan of EndTheEcho 9 fans permalink
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First off, I think that Baucus has crippled the process with his refusal to consider single payer. If that were on the table, negotiating to a public option is much easier to do.

So with that being said, this Andrea Seabrook of NPR who is quoted.

Nearly half of the funds came from out-of-state donors, including millions from health care and other industries overseen by Finance and Baucus' other committees.

Just 13 percent of Baucus' re-election funds came from Montana donors.


If 13 percent came from Montana donors, then 100-13 equals 87 percent, that is far more than the "nearly half of the funds" that she leads with. If you are going to make a point, don't show your inability to do simple math in making it with conflicting numbers. It would be better to say that 5 out of 6 dollars came from out of state donors and a mere 13 percent from Montana donors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 09/09/2009


Good work, Echo. I remember when NPR was a dependable fountain of information. Now they are part of the problem.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 09/10/2009
- chaya I'm a Fan of chaya 39 fans permalink

I think the health industry WROTE Baucus's plan for him. That's why the huge, telling give-away of making it illegal for individuals not to purchase health insurance. We saw that with auto insurers: they promised if states made people buy auto insurance, the prices would go down. The prices kept going up--but the auto insurers made out like bandits.

Baucus, bought and paid for by public enemy #1.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 09/09/2009

Does anyone realize that the Supreme Court is ruling on campaign reform and part of it is to EASE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY UNIONS AND CORPORATIONS GIVE TO CAMPAIGNS! We need these two entities to be BANNED FROM GIVING MONEY to political campaigns. ( throw in lobbying groups) This will only enforce the culture in our political system that has developed of a GOVERNMENT FOR BUSINESS AND BY BUSINESS!!

What we need is to ADD an amendment to the constitution! YES, add one that says: If you can vote, have voted, or will be eligible to actually vote (better known as a human being)then you are eligible to donate to a political campaign or a PAC and this comes with monetary limits. Business, lobbying groups, and PACs with the EXCEPTION of the DNC, RNC and their house and senate groups should not be able to give one Penny to a political campaign. The exceptions just mentioned are also not allowed to take non-human being's money. This will solve the trouble with Max Baucus. Our constitution reads government FOR THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE not for and by corporatio­­ns/busine­s­s and their lobbying groups and PACS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 09/09/2009
- jayraye I'm a Fan of jayraye 17 fans permalink
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The Ballad of Big I. and Old Max

Big I. took a jet to Montana
And bot him a Senator there
And when he was thru
Away Big I. flew
With Good Old Max B in his pocket

Arriving in DC forth-with
Big I tossed poor Max on the Floor
He said, "Listen, Max,
I want you to wax
And polish that Bill how I like it."

Old Max, he got right down to work
His duty to Big I. in mind
He lined up his team
According to scheme
And the 1.5 mil in his pocket

Now children let's all pay attention
And learn how a Bill it is made
By Senators bot
And Senators got
And the Corporate Cash in their pockets
--jayraye

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 09/09/2009
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

Obviously Max Baucus is a paid by the health and drug industry to introduce legislation that is favorable for corporate interests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 09/09/2009
- Gotcha54 I'm a Fan of Gotcha54 12 fans permalink

Obama was voted in by many people that have been sick of the whole political process. Ones that have given up about this 2 party system of governing. He was like our last hope! This group of people voted and thought he'd be able to make the changes he was proposing. This group of people were not showing up to the vile townhall "debates" or maybe better described as "organized chaos".

The public option should not be negotiated away! The people doing all the shouting at these debates will never be satisfied so President Obama should go with his gut and let the chips fall where they may. I'm tired of all these politicians suddenly getting afraid they made have to fight to keep their political position. The last election hasn't even been a year old - is their memory that short of the groundswell of support the party had?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 09/09/2009
- MacQ I'm a Fan of MacQ 41 fans permalink

If we wanted real reform, we would demand that:
Congress can never exempt themselves from any regulation or legislation they pass
All spending bills must be for specified items only (no tacking earmarks onto a bill that you know must pass)
Term limits for congress
Line item veto for the president
No special perks (special retirement and healthcare programs) for congress

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 09/09/2009
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