Elton John Deemed Too Old, Too Gay To Adopt HIV Positive Ukrainian Boy

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MARIA DANILOVA | 09/14/09 02:59 PM | AP

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KIEV, Ukraine — Elton John won't be able to adopt a 14-month-old HIV-positive child from Ukraine because the pop star is too old and isn't married, the government said Monday.

Adoption and gay rights advocates expressed regret about the determination by Family, Youth and Sports Minister Yuriy Pavlenko, while a children's charity had reservations about John's weekend announcement that he and his male partner, David Furnish, wanted to adopt the boy.

John announced his desire after meeting the boy, named Lev, while touring an orphanage Saturday as part of an anti-AIDS charity project.

"I don't know how we do that, but he has stolen my heart. And he has stolen David's heart and it would be wonderful if we can have a home," John said.

But Pavlenko told The Associated Press that the adoption will not happen because adoptive parents must be married and because the pop star is too old.

The singer is 62 and Ukrainian law requires a parent to be no more than 45 years older than an adopted child.

John and Furnish tied the knot in 2005 in one of the first legalized civil unions in Britain, but Pavlenko said Ukraine does not recognize gays unions as marriage.

"Elton John will not be able to adopt a Ukrainian child and if he files that request we will unfortunately deny it," Pavlenko said. "The law is the same for everybody: for a president, for a minister, for Elton John."

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John spokesman Gary Farrow declined to comment.

Pavlenko said Ukraine was grateful for the singer's charity work and expressed hope that his desire to adopt Lev would spur the domestic adoption of more children with health problems, which is still rare in Ukraine.

Pavlenko said domestic adoptions have increased significantly thanks to government childcare supplements and maternity leave for adoptive families. In 2004, Ukrainian families adopted about 1,500 children compared with 2,500 adoptions by foreigners. This year, 2,500 orphans were adopted locally while 1,000 found homes abroad.

However, Ukrainians are still reluctant to adopt ill, psychologically challenged children or those older than 10. Pavlenko said that only about 30 HIV-positive children have been adopted since 2007. About 32,000 Ukrainian orphans are waiting to be adopted this year, but only 2,000 Ukrainian families are lined to adopt them.

Albert Pavlov, head of the Happy Child foundation for orphaned and sick children in Zaporizhia, said he opposed adoption by gays, but called for removing age and marriage restrictions for adopters.

"I don't understand why a middle-aged single woman, if she is in good health, cannot raise a child," Pavlov said.

Svyatoslav Sheremet, head of Ukraine's Gay Forum, a leading gay rights organization in Ukraine, said the regulations were depriving the boy of a chance to find a family and love.

"If I were that child, I would feel very bitter and sad," Sheremet said.

Yukie Mokuo, UNICEF representative in Ukraine, said that foreign adoptions should be encouraged when no local families can be found.

But charity Save the Children UK, which also expressed misgivings over Madonna's adoption of a girl from Malawi, said celebrity adoptions risked sending the wrong message about how best to help foreign children.

"International adoption can actually exacerbate the problem it hopes to solve" by encouraging parents to abandon children in the hope of giving them a better life, spokesman Adrian Lovett said.

"Most orphans in institutions, including in Ukraine, have one or both parents still living, or have an extended family that could care for them with the right support," Lovett said in a statement.

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Associated Press Writer Raphael G. Satter in London contributed to this report.

KIEV, Ukraine — Elton John won't be able to adopt a 14-month-old HIV-positive child from Ukraine because the pop star is too old and isn't married, the government said Monday. Adoption and gay ...
KIEV, Ukraine — Elton John won't be able to adopt a 14-month-old HIV-positive child from Ukraine because the pop star is too old and isn't married, the government said Monday. Adoption and gay ...
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- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 132 fans permalink
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Wouldn't it be better then the orphans to be with their own families as some suggest? And to prove their point they leave this poor things to grow up without love in orphanages while waiting for the ideal situation. Barbaric.

As people are living longer healthier lives, the age limit to adopt should be raised. 45 is too low. Adoption can be expensive and people too often find they can finally afford it in their 40's and 50's.

I really disagree that the children are always better off in their own culture. There are places in the world where vulnerable girl babies are raped because, in their culture, they believe it may be a cure for AIDS. I'd rather see the child elsewhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 09/18/2009
- ImissBush I'm a Fan of ImissBush 35 fans permalink
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its a crime
i rember when fla wouldnt let gays adopt hiv babies when nurses were afraid 2 hold them
so they laid in their cribs all day

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 09/15/2009
- nowarpleez I'm a Fan of nowarpleez 28 fans permalink
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So it's better for the child to live in an orphanage than to have everything he could ever want in life as a beneficiary of Elton John? Unbelievable bigotry and hypocrisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 09/15/2009
- Balzac I'm a Fan of Balzac 120 fans permalink
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For the public record, my first impulse was to figure that it was just fine, because it's Elton John. His songs speak for themselves. But we thought we knew Woody Allen too. Adopting parents can turn out to be weird.

So if Elton John is pissed off about this, he can fire off a nasty email to Woody Allen. Maybe copy Morgan Freeman on that one. Celebs are weird!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 09/15/2009
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 132 fans permalink
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If we went only by who posed the most statistical risk to children no one who claims to be a heterosexual male could ever adopt as they pose the greatest risk by the numbers.

In your example, Woody Allen claims to be a heterosexual male and will not win any parent of the year awards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 09/18/2009
- Balzac I'm a Fan of Balzac 120 fans permalink
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Hey, find the baby an HIV positive wet-nurse.

I wouldn't even endorse the Dalai Lama adopting a baby. (Unless the Dalai Lama reveals his secret "old lady" he's been hiding from the world and admits he's really a king, not a mere priest.)

I think it would suck to be a baby growing up without a mother.

I'd prefer a few minutes a day with a cranky old orphanage nurse over hours with only a dad.

Why doesn't Elton John invest in the the orphanage and fund HIV treatments?

If he'll have a woman committed to stay involved in the boy's up-bringing, I'll retract my negative opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 09/15/2009
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 132 fans permalink
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So your ideal parents are a lesbian couple?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 09/18/2009
- Balzac I'm a Fan of Balzac 120 fans permalink
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At this point in my life, I wouldn't mind if a well-to-do lesbian (Ellen Degeneres) and her wife adopted me. The could buy me things my real parents never could afford. I'd clean the pool for Ellen's hot wife.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 09/18/2009
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As a gay person, I have been disappointed in Elton John's lack of support for gay marriage. Although I feel for him and his partner, a part of me considers this poetic justice.
How does it feel now, Elton? See, they do hate you as much as they hate me. See, Elton, there is a difference between a civil union and a marriage!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 09/15/2009

They're right -- any child is better off in a cold orphanage, fending for themselves, left in their cribs 24/7 than with a family that would love him and provide for him. This adoption stuff has got to stop. These children shouldn't be rewarded with parents that love them after they chose to be brought into this world even after they knew they were sick.

And what is the reason? What will a gay parent do to harm a child? Turn them gay? They don't recruit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 09/15/2009
- zeeeke I'm a Fan of zeeeke 5 fans permalink

agree Icantbelieveher. The selfishness and gall of Elton John to attempt to recruit this child!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 09/15/2009
- Balzac I'm a Fan of Balzac 120 fans permalink
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"They're right -- any child is better off in a cold orphanage, fending for themselves, left in their cribs 24/7..."

Yeah, we all know those cruel Ukranians just leave their orphans to rot with bedsores. Yep, Ukranians don't like kids, just like Rawandans and people from Malawi.

The gall of Angstivist celebutards to run around dissing other country's quality of care just so they can pry a few "fashion-accessory" babies away from them.

It's not quite as bad as the made-up stories about the Baghdad orphanage used to justify the first war on Iraq. People need to put personality ahead of their angst-driven causes. And for that matter, put social etiquette ahead of their personalities, for most of the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 09/15/2009
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 132 fans permalink
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I'm sure the child will have a much better experience in an orphanage than in Elton John's home. Get real.

It is about the kids, it is not about "dissing" the culture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 09/18/2009
- Balzac I'm a Fan of Balzac 120 fans permalink
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I know Elton John is British and Madonna lives there too, but England has lost its class and they've become an extension of American culture. So they're both "American Angstivists". Or are they?

Does Elton John really want to do this as a parent, or is he trying to be the champion of adoptive gay couples, and has the child thereby become a fashionable accessory, as implied in the movie Bruno?

What comes first, the angst or the desire to be a dad? Now that he's made the adoption bid, he has this huge celebrity ego, so he'll stop at nothing, just like Madonna. He knows it'll be viewed as a reflection on his character if he doesn't succeed.

If he doesn't get this baby, he'll go for another. A Siberian baby raised by wolves, perhaps. Surely he'll get to keep that one. Because when a celebrity decides to adopt to demonstrate their awesome humanity, they cannot be denied like the thousands of normal people waiting to adopt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 09/15/2009
- timregler I'm a Fan of timregler 17 fans permalink

First question sir. How many children have YOU adopted? If thousands of "normal" people are waiting to adopt, it must be because they are waiting to adopt "white babies" because I can guarantee you sir, there are thousands of non white babies, and kids of all colors over the age of 5 waiting for those thousands of "normal people" to adopt them. You really should limit your comments to subjects that you know something about. My wife and I are "normal" people who have adopted 6 beautiful children, and if there was room in our home we could find several other kids who need homes. They don't care what the color, income level, celebrity status, or sexuality of are the prospective parent(s). They just want someone who loves them, and above all, cares about their lives. Your comments show that you are certainly not qualified to meet those two needs, but really, who are you to comment on people who are. See ya in church pal!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 09/15/2009

i thought money couldnt but love, not after reading most of the posts here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 AM on 09/15/2009

What do you expect from the Ukraine

there still stone age and 3rd world for a reason

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 AM on 09/15/2009
- Oonagh I'm a Fan of Oonagh 30 fans permalink

So it is better to keep a sick child in an orphanage where he is on his own and we know is not well taken care of than to give him a home with a wealthy gay couple to love him....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 09/14/2009
- textynn I'm a Fan of textynn 115 fans permalink
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Boy that kid has no luck at all. Elton could give him everything and the best doctors in the entire world. This is a bad decision.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 09/14/2009

I couldn't agree more. What a terrible decision. I hope they change their mind. They could give this poor child love, care and the best doctors. Why would they want this child to stay in an orphanage?? This just makes no sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 09/15/2009
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Because, just like right wingers in the US, they are blinded by their prejudice against g a y men. And this further proves the point that the g a y community has been trying to make about the "marriage vs. civil union" issue. In many cases, that civil union is not recognized as anything even slightly resembling a marriage. If it was, they wouldn't be considering Elton John as a single man. They'd be considering him as one half of a couple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 09/15/2009
- t iessa I'm a Fan of t iessa 49 fans permalink
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Being a grandmother I understand why we have kids when we're young. I understand the "too old" logic but "too gay?" What does that mean? What exactly IS "too gay?"

Elton would give this child a better life. It's a shame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 09/14/2009
- Cryostatic I'm a Fan of Cryostatic 22 fans permalink

It stems from an idea that a child needs a well-balanced home with a mother and a father who are both of an age to properly care for a child, more than it does as an action against gays, but it's still a rather outdated concept in this day and age, and certainly does no good for the child.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 09/15/2009
- t iessa I'm a Fan of t iessa 49 fans permalink
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I understand the homosexual vs. heterosexual argument. I don't agree with it but I get what people are saying with it. My question is how is one too gay? Isn't that like being a little pregnant?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 09/15/2009
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Even if he is old, he has the money to give the kid the best care. I doubt that the orphanage has the same resources as Elton John.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 09/14/2009
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I can understand a law where there's an age cap, after all, raising a child requires a lot of physical energy and Elton is an older man, but there are plenty of grandparents that take care of small children when their mothers and fathers die or are unavailable, and they do great jobs.

And 62 isn't THAT old. Plus Elton has obviously got lots of energy, so I can't see any legitimate reason why, other than the given homophobia/bigotry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 09/14/2009

OK my heterosexual parents were allowed to breed.
My father fathered his first child at 16 and had 3 more by the age of 25.
NEVER paid support.
That is of course not going into his drug abuse and physical abuse

Then my Mother and him met and they created 3 children together.
My sibling and I have quite the medical records due to our parents "loving care".
At 18 because I was not done with high school and could not get a full time job to pay them rent.
I came home one day and the locks were changed. They took a box of my stuff and left it in my Grandma's car port!

Yet Elton John can not adopt because he is gay!?

OH OK!

The Ukraine authorities that be are trying to say they have the best interest of the child at heart.
Yet because of this child's medical situation it is very unlikely he will live past the age of 16.
Orphanages in the Ukraine and former Soviet Union are pretty much signed death certificates for children who have serious medical issues.

Elton would have saved that childs life!
Is that not in the best interest of the child!??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 09/14/2009
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