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Loving Couple Divorces To Stay Afloat Financially

First Posted: 11/16/09 05:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:05 PM ET

Ronmary

For Mary McCurnin and husband Ron Bednar, money trouble has followed health trouble. In 2003, the couple declared bankruptcy after their insurance covered only 10 percent of treatment costs for her breast cancer and his intestinal bleeding. In 2004, McCurnin's breast cancer returned, and Bednar underwent open heart surgery.

Now, after repeatedly refinancing their house to pay medical bills and living expenses, they're broke. To improve their chances of growing old together, they've filed for divorce.

"It occurred to me that I could get my first husband's Social Security," said McCurnin. Her first husband, to whom she'd been married 20 years, died in 1989. When she turns 60 in November, McCurnin said she will be eligible for $1,200 in monthly survivor's benefits from the previous marriage. As the Social Security Administration told her, she can't have the survivor benefit if she's married to someone else.

The Rancho Cordova, Calif. couple has been scraping by with the occasional freelance gig -- both are graphic artists -- and Bednar brings in $1,000 a month in Social Security benefits. They haven't made a payment on either of their mortgages in two months and fully expect a foreclosure. McCurnin told the Huffington Post that they don't bother opening mail from their credit card companies, to whom they owe at least $10,000.

McCurnin said she suspects their horrendous credit is a huge obstacle to either of them landing a job, and Bednar talks about the "gray wall" that faces perfectly qualified older workers.

"We literally live from week to week," said McCurnin. "We got $300 in the bank."

McCurnin has health insurance via Medi-Cal; Bednar is hoping to stay healthy until next August, when he turns 65 and will be eligible for Medicare.

The couple first attempted to file for divorce in February, but ultimately hired a paralegal when their paperwork kept getting rejected for errors. They expect the divorce to be finalized in the coming weeks. There's a bright side: After the widow's benefits kick in, they could remarry without her losing them.

"She could divorce him now to collect short-term benefits on her earlier husband, and then at some later point after age 60 remarry him without it affecting her widow's benefits," said Lowell Kepke, a spokesman for the San Francisco regional office of the Social Security Administration. "Congress put that in precisely to stop encouraging elderly couples from not getting married."

But the widow's benefits aren't the only reasons for the divorce. McCurnin and Bednar could see a tax advantage. A married couple filing joint tax returns can earn less before their Social Security benefits are taxed than two people filing separately.

"It's always significantly less for the couple than it is after a divorce," said Mary Thuerwachter, an elder law attorney in California, in an interview with the Huffington Post.

And, potentially more importantly, McCurnin and Bednar will be indemnified from each other's future debts, should expensive medical problems come up.

"They will be off the hook," Thuerwachter said.

The couple will be glad to get a break, but it's not exactly the ideal kind.

Bednar, the couple agrees, is a little more romantic about it.

"It makes me feel awful, to tell you the truth," he told the Huffington Post. "It makes me sad. It really does. I believe in the marriage. I believe in the whole act of marriage, to declare that we are married in front of friends and family and God and all that. It just makes me sad to have to go through that process."

"The only thing that happens is a check mark in a box in a courthouse," said McCurnin, who takes a more pragmatic view. "It's absurd... Having to get divorced in order to be able to eat. I have no idea why it's like that."

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04:25 PM on 09/30/2009
If you want to call it "gaming the system", so be it! My husband and I legally separated in 2000, after 18 years of marriage. We lived in separate dwellings in the same home, to co-parent our ,much loved by us both, daughter. In 2002 I met a single ,handsome, fun, lovable, gentleman that lived 3 houses away!! In 2003 I moved down the block to live with "The Neighbor" (further than 3 houses, we got another house) and I still to this day am married to my husband! Why you ask, Because of health insurance!!!!! I had health issues, I was his second wife (no other children) he said to me, YOU NEED THE HEALTH INSURANCE, and our daughter needs for you to be healthy! We have decided to stay married until one of of feels the need to remarry again! In the mean time, I have excellent health insurance, a boyfriend, my ex has a girlfriend, everybody gets along, the kid and dog went back and forth happily down the street for years, secure in the fact that her parents took their lemons and made some great lemonade! He also has 2 Pensions that would die with him. If he passes before me, our daughter would greatly benefit passing it on to me. Call it whatever you want, it works for me! I will probably never remarry, if my ex never wants a divorce! PS The kid is in Collage, studying to be a divorce attorney.
04:06 PM on 09/30/2009
It is hard to believe just how "MONEY' can do so much damage! Mary and Ron are in my thoughts and prayers. Until people are the priority, the "United" in "States of America" will continue to be overlooked.
10:34 PM on 09/18/2009
Do you have to live in separate places? Also,how long after the divorce do you have to wait before you can re-marry? TY
08:53 AM on 09/18/2009
OPPOSITES ATTRACT?
I was drawn to this article because I saw the picture and thought it was my two older brothers. Then I began reading it and was amazed that two really unlucky people found each other and got married.
They must be incredibly narcissistic because they look alike, are both graphic artists, are both broke, are both willing to be exploited by the left wing media, and both have major health problems. A lack of government healthcare sounds like the least of their problems.
The World Health Organization says characteristics of narcissism include:
A sense of entitlement, sense of self-importance, and is often envious of others.
10:51 AM on 09/18/2009
The fact that this is your only take away from this article, and that you felt the need to comment on it, speaks volumes.
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janejoad
12:50 AM on 09/18/2009
I had a friend who was with a man for 15 years, had two kids, never married. She always kept him on her insurance (even before domestic partners came into effect) , she just lied and said they were married to get the insurance, the benefits office never asked her to produce a marriage document. This went on until they broke up, at which point she refinanced their house to pay this guy $200,000 to go away. Now, she owns not one percent of her "home", and owes twice as much, maybe three times, what she paid for it. So, in effect she got what was coming to her for cheating her employer and the insurance company. She's also a Fox watching Republican who LOVES Hannity, Beck and O'Reilly. She thinks she did good. We're not friends anymore. I'm sorry that this couple had to divorce to survive, but I'm curious to know if they ever voted Republican, cuz Republicans are really good at gaming the system and blaming it on Liberals.
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Cinnamonape
03:39 AM on 09/18/2009
I can assure you that Mary McCurnin is not a Republican, and I doubt that she ever was (or voted for one). She's a regular visitor to the FireDogLake.com site. The article points out that she certainly didn't marry to "game the system"...if that was true she would have never remarried (the cited tax advatages). Furthermore she could have collected her exes SSI as a "widow".

as to your "friend"? Many people are in denial about which Party historically actually serves their personal interest and that of the Society they belong to.
11:19 PM on 09/17/2009
Most of you don't get it, it's all caused by govt meddling in personal affairs it had no business getting involved in the first place.
from income tax to social security
03:18 PM on 09/17/2009
And this country - the one that claims to be the richest country in the world - actually allows this sort of thing to happen. I'm ashamed!

This kind of thing has been going on for years.

Back in the 1960s I had a neighbor with MS. Her husband had to divorce her in order for her to get the medical help she needed.

Peace be with you both, Mary and Ron.
01:50 PM on 09/17/2009
While what you have said is true about Homosexuals not producing laborers taxpayers ect there is a huge amount of children born out of marriage. Homosexuals not being allowed to marry has nothing to do with money anymore then marriage has to do with making children. It is not illegal to be Homosexual, it is not allowed for them to get married. In Nazi Germany actual civil rights were taken away, no voting, no traveling, restricted positions of employment, citizenship revoked, Jewish evicted from schools and universities, banned from parks restaurants and swimming pools, and all property taken away. So before any one says that Homosexuals do not have the same civil rights we need to recognize that there are only a couple of things that they cannot do such as marriage, military, and some restrictions on insurance I believe. I am not an anti Homosexual person, nor do I look down on anyones lifestyle but I do not agree that it has anything to do with money. Single people buy furniture and unmarried people still have children. Everybody knows how to keep from getting aids and they still risk themselves in their chosen activities, nothing to do with marriage or money.
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Cinnamonape
03:45 AM on 09/18/2009
ayn rand destroyed marriages, too.
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mlaiuppa
Pres. Sarcasm Society. Like we need your approval.
09:47 PM on 09/16/2009
So much for the party of Family Values. I hope the Republicans are pleased with what they have wrought.
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edgarcaycedoc
09:29 PM on 09/16/2009
My wife and I have talked about my death. We have decided that if she finds love again, she need not get married, because I do not want her to have any chance of losing what "we" worked for. Most of the assets came through my work, but she, as silent partner, ought not to be penalized for supporting me. I am a pastor in a mainline denomination, and am appalled at the marriage penalties that exist in this country.
09:44 PM on 09/16/2009
You'd be a lot more appalled if your weren't allowed to get married in the first place. That's what your gay neighbors face every day of the year. Even if gay couples live in states that permits gay marriage, the Federal government won't recognize them. So much for equal protection under the law. The German Nazis prohibited Jews from marrying Christians starting in 1935 and the US has its Defense of Marriage Act which prohibits Federal recognition of same sex marriage.
02:28 AM on 09/17/2009
Hi, robinhood1!
It seems that everything has to do with money! I did a lot thinking and trying to figure out why the government does not want gays and lesbians to marry and money seems to be the answer. Now check out my twisted logic and see if I am wrong:
Generally speaking, gays and lesbians do not make little people (children) so therefore, the gays and lesbians are not going to be creating more taxpayers, not creating more soldiers, not going to create more laborers, nor farmers, not going to spend money on baby cribs, diapers, baby food, clothes, etc. In other ways many gay people are wonderfully creative! Many are craftsman, artists, musicians, actors, lawyers, government workers and a countless number of different skills are brought to the marketplace. So if money is Not the issue, then what is the issue? If two fellows want to get married and stay faithful, the prospect of them getting AIDS is greatly diminished.
Sorry funeral and insurance industries! The married couples are still going to buy new furniture, new TV's groceries are still being purchased. etc.
And military, don't make me laugh! Julius Cesear, and Mark Antony Roman generals
were bisexual and nobody said that they were not brave warriors!
So what is the problemo?
09:00 PM on 09/16/2009
I agree that marriage is overrated and that if they want to game the system, it's fine for them to find the loopholes.
03:28 PM on 09/17/2009
My parents were married by a Registrar in Britain back in the 1930s. Because only my father was C@tholic the church refused to marry them and, some three yers later, the Bish0p sent my father a letter saying that he had been exc0municated because - 'he had fathered two b@st@rd children'. So civil ceremonies are recognized legally but not by the church. Good thing I'm not religious 'cause I'd have to call myself a 'b@st@rd'
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vernbvb
08:59 PM on 09/16/2009
If ever there was a throwback to the '70's, this is it. I remember in early 1970 working at Welfare Office and so many older people were losing all their savings due to catastrophic illnesses. One social worker from one of the clinics used to advise them to divorce so they could get help. It worked but some of the older people wouldn't do it because they felt they were defrauding government and of course they wanted to be honest. At that time taking a trip to the hospital almost 200 miles away and having to spend weeks at a time was expensive but you could get help if you could qualify financially. I thought things were bad then. I never thought that healthcare would become the nightmare it has become today.

Our legislators don't take it seriously at all because of course they don't really understand the problems associated with the healthcare system and since they are not hurting, what is the hurry?
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War is a Racket - Smedley Butler
08:51 PM on 09/16/2009
we have plenty of money, it's just all in the wrong hands.
08:12 PM on 09/16/2009
I am non believer but isn't it ironic that

"What God has brought together let no man separate"

is the exact opposite of GOP health care.
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dfranz
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06:21 PM on 09/16/2009
It is insane what this country has become.

My sister is an American citizen who married a Canadian moved to Canada and had 2 children. She and her husband divorced. We have been trying to get he to move back to the States, but it is impossible. She injured her knee and will be having knee replacement surgery in Canada in 2 months. Not only would she have no insurance here, neither would her children. The Canadian Social retirement net will afford her to live in relative comfort when she retires, here she would have nothing.

I used to believe that we lived in the best country in the world. I no longer am convinced of that. There are way too many mean spirited people willing to say tough Sh*T to someone who might need help.

And the Republicans want to carve Ronald Regan's face into Mt Rushmore. Give me a break. It all started with him.
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alteregoess
06:26 PM on 09/16/2009
Well said. I have 5 Canadian friends who are temporarily living in the US and they are in disbelief at what happens to people here because of medical bills. They are also in disbelief about the lies they Republicans spew about Canadian health care!
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sodisenchanted
oh yea, well don't tread on me either!
10:28 PM on 09/16/2009
My husband and I moved back to the US from the UK about a year ago. My husband hasn't been able to find a job and our savings are depleted. We are facing the same prospects for me to get Medicaid since I have many health problems and we can't get insurance anywhere that we can afford.

We were on NHS in the UK and it was wonderful. I received excellent medical care and it makes me very angry to hear conservatives bad mouth it when I know they have no experience of what they speak about. One thing I noticed about the people in those "socialist" countries is that they care about and have respect for each other. I wish I could say the same for the USA. It used to be that way but not so much since Reagan.