Private Student Loans Would Be Killed By House Bill

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LIBBY QUAID | 09/17/09 08:13 PM | AP

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President Barack Obama talks on his cell phone in a loading area at the Comcast Center at the University of Maryland in College Park, Md., Thursday, Sept. 17, 2009, before he spoke at a rally on health care reform. At left is aide Reggie Love. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — The House voted Thursday in favor of the biggest overhaul of college aid programs since their creation in the 1960s – a bill to oust private lenders from the student loan business and put the government in charge.

The vote was 253-171 in favor of a bill that fulfills nearly all of President Barack Obama's campaign promises for higher education: The measure ends subsidies for private lenders, boosts Pell Grants for needy students and creates grant programs to improve community colleges and college graduation rates, among other things.

"These are reforms that have been talked about for years, but they're always blocked by special interests and their lobbyists," Obama said Thursday during a rally at the University of Maryland.

"Well, because you voted for change in November, we're going to bring change in the House of Representatives today," the president said.

Ending loan subsidies and turning control over to the government would save taxpayers an estimated $87 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Lawmakers would use that money to help make college more affordable, increasing the maximum Pell Grant by $1,400 to $6,900 over the next decade.

"The choice before us is clear. We can either keep sending these subsidies to banks or we can start sending them directly to students," said the bill's sponsor, California Democratic Rep. George Miller, chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee.

Yet the money also would be spent on things that don't help pay for college, such as construction at K-12 schools and new preschool programs.

And while the measure would increase Pell Grants, it would do nothing to curb college costs, which rise much faster than Pell Grants do.

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In addition, the CBO says that when administrative costs and market conditions are considered, the savings from switching to direct government lending could be much lower, $47 billion instead of $87 billion.

Republicans warned that instead of saving the government money, as Democrats promise, the bill could wind up costing the government more money.

"Unfortunately, the numbers just don't add up," said Minnesota Rep. John Kline, senior Republican on the Education Committee.

Lawmakers split largely along party lines on the bill, with only six Republicans in favor and four Democrats against. The measure goes next to the Senate, where its fate is a little less certain.

Obama didn't get his way on one thing: The president proposed earlier this year to take Pell Grants out of lawmakers' hands entirely, making the program an entitlement like Social Security and Medicare, which would have cost an estimated $117 billion – more than lawmakers have to spend.

Under the measure, Pell Grants would rise slightly more than inflation over the next decade, increasing on average by about 2.6 percent yearly, according to the bill's sponsors. However, the grants would still depend on annual spending bills and could rise less than promised, as has happened in the past.

Lawmakers met him halfway on the labyrinthine college aid form; Obama proposed to eliminate it altogether when he ran for president, but the bill would keep the form and shorten it.

As consumers, college students probably wouldn't notice much difference in their loans, which they would get through their schools. However, officials at several colleges worry they may not be able to make the switch to direct government loans in time for next year, and Education Department officials said this week they do not intend to extend the deadline.

More schools administer federal loans through the subsidized loan program than from the government's direct loan program. Private lenders made $56 billion in government-backed loans to more than 6 million students last year, compared with $14 billion in direct loans from the government.

Republicans argued it is wrong to put the government in near-total control of student lending.

Many also worry about job losses in their districts. Private lenders employ more than 30,000 people whose jobs depend on the subsidized loan program, and the industry says many would be laid off.

Sallie Mae, the biggest student lender, has about 8,500 employees in the program and probably would lay off about 30 percent of those workers. It still will have contracts to service federal loans.

Its employees have held a series of town hall meetings and petition drives to involve local leaders in Pennsylvania, Florida, Delaware, New York and Indiana.

Democratic Rep. David Wu of Oregon said lenders still could make all the loans they want. "What will not happen anymore is making those student loans with taxpayer subsidies," he said.

WASHINGTON — The House voted Thursday in favor of the biggest overhaul of college aid programs since their creation in the 1960s – a bill to oust private lenders from the student loan busi...
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Private student loans are not going away but the FFELP program is doomed. Thanks Kennedy (RIP) and Miller for this soon to be cluster. Remember the days when the Govt controlled all federal student loans? They couldn't handle it so they created Sallie Mae and the FFELP program. History will repeat itself. I like how instead of handling the real issue (out of control increases in college tuition and fees) they try to blame this mess on private lenders. WAJ!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 09/29/2009
- leevntheus I'm a Fan of leevntheus 47 fans permalink
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I wonder if it would be more efficient for the government to dole the money directly to the university that the students sign up for, and let the university manage the account?

Hmmm...no.­..students change schools and dual enroll and such...

I think sometimes this is all going to lead to just the Fed Central Bank that holds each person's banking and loan accounts on file in tandem with the IRS legally infiltrated into our data.

Soon they will tell us our cash is no good and we all get issued a debit card for our "credits" to be transferred around the economy.

Fake money, fake debt, and permanent power to the Fed and those elite digit changers well connected at the top.

oooops....wandering off topic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 09/19/2009

So this is wonderful ? Private loans no longer available and I must leave school for lack of funding....... Pell Grants are not sufficient to cover cost of tuition.....The dream of Ivy League Education has ended........its back to a community college.....So where is that low cost Dental School ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 09/18/2009
- Raccoon1 I'm a Fan of Raccoon1 16 fans permalink
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If you can't read any better than that, you don't deserve to go to college. Re-read the assignment.
The Fed subsidises the Corporate Banks with our tax dollars, the Corporate Banks use the free money to make loans to students, the banks rake off two or three percent or more, the student ends up in crushing debt. The banks are the 'middle men'. They provide no value.
The Feds will administer the loan program just as they did before this big handout to the banks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 09/18/2009
- StJames I'm a Fan of StJames 69 fans permalink
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Dear dear Peter, You really need to read the full article without the filter of Republican bullshit. College loans used to be very inexpensive, I know I funded my education through such loans in the late 1960's. Then privatre banks saw a way to make money from these loans and became involved as third parties. Simple economics explains that third parties add cost to everything they touch. By getting rid of the middleman, the cost of your education will be reduced. It's that simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 09/19/2009
- cheeriogirl I'm a Fan of cheeriogirl 101 fans permalink

Peter,
It's basically the same as the health care issue. Private interference has skyrocketed the cost of college loan rates. The goal is to remove that private interference. The good news is that the actual costs of your college loans would in fact, go down!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 10/21/2009
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Nationalize higher learning, nationalize healthcare, subsidize investigative reporting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 09/18/2009
- StJames I'm a Fan of StJames 69 fans permalink
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Get a grip bluesky. These loans have always been guaranteed by the federal government...now they have to guarantee less. That should make you happy not bring out your Mr. Hyde side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 09/19/2009
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It is a shame that people have to pay money to learn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 09/19/2009
- ClareP I'm a Fan of ClareP 65 fans permalink

It's about time. Banks have always been thrilled to participate in student loan programs, which give them a chance to both take subsidies from the government and collect guarantee fees off the top of every loan (which are not figured into the APR, as they have to be on other fees), for lending money that is guaranteed to be repaid and can't be discharged even in bankruptcy. This has raised the costs to both government and students. There are no negatives here, except to banking profits. the repub complaints are all scare tactics not grounded in reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 09/18/2009
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 109 fans permalink
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Okay, first this is going to be cheaper for the students, because the government will accept a MUCH lower interest payment on a loan than will a private lender.

Second, this is going to PAY FOR ITSELF people!! Student loans are paid back in almost every case. They cannot be removed by bankruptcy, they can touch your income to get them, and are able to get at almost any income source, with exceptions for things like VA benefits. Just like the government home loan program in the 30s cost a LOT of money upfront, and then by the time the last loan was paid off in the 60s, the government had made TONS of money off the program!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 09/18/2009
- wayne64 I'm a Fan of wayne64 12 fans permalink

As I understand it,the loans are guaranteed to the lender by the government. The financial institution lending the money will be paid back by the government if the student defaults.If this is true, there never was any risk to the financial institutions in the first place yet they got to collect the fees and interest on the loans that were paid back.. If this is true ...who set it up like this and what was their rationale?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 09/18/2009
- StJames I'm a Fan of StJames 69 fans permalink
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Correct! Who do you think wanted their banking friends to make even more money? But that's a good question...think I'll google it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 09/19/2009
- gakabani I'm a Fan of gakabani 20 fans permalink
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about time, education is a right not a business.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 09/18/2009
- Shozen I'm a Fan of Shozen 8 fans permalink

The death of the "Private option" for student loans won't cause me to shed a tear. The first time I took out a loan I was shocked to find all the "fees" docked against the balance. One of the fees had the stupid name of "repayment guarantee fee." The standard joke with my fellow students was to repay the loans with made up fees of our own docked against each payment such as a "continued employment guarantee" fee.

I personally doubt such reform will pass however. Too many in Congress are owned by the financial interest groups.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 AM on 09/18/2009
- Anonani I'm a Fan of Anonani 45 fans permalink
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For the first time someone is more interested in the consumer of educational opportunities in our nation rather than the profit margin of some entity trying to highjack the future of our children. There is no reason that higher education and training should be unattainable because of money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 AM on 09/18/2009

Student Loans joining becoming a Public Option! SWEET.

Once the Fed takes over, they can simply raise taxes to pay for the student loans, resulting in free education for all.

No one should be denied their right to a federally paid college education. The logical next step is to remove entrance requirements...why shouldn't everyone be allowed into Harvard? Rampant elitism, racism, pure and simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 09/18/2009
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Nursing student here, couple more semesters to go with my just corework alone and I feel by the time I'm finished I will have racked up enough school debt that I should've just went to medical school. The military is telling me they can help me pay that off if I join, thinking about it more and more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 09/17/2009
- chronic I'm a Fan of chronic 71 fans permalink
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Nursing student here also!

Waiting on clinical slot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 09/17/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 128 fans permalink
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well the good news is that as of right now, when you die, they dont go after your survivors for your student loans. the bad news is that thanks to the new world order or capitalism, you probably will never make enough money to pay your huge student loans off and be able to live a semi normal life, buy a home, raise a family, ect.... Thanks to education being the next highest expense to health care, and both are rising at 100 times the rate of normal inflation each year, I dont see how anyone expects to bring the country up out of its economic demise. Then again, I know the capitalist dont want things to be better. They want to bring the masses down to match the levels of the lowest 3rd world. When the US citizen is on the level playing field with Somalia, Hati, Sri Lanka, then those in power, the K street crowd, the Ivy Greed Educated, the Capitalist, will feel they have triumphed. There will be a few wealthy, and the rest will be their slaves.
for my kids sake, I hope to god Im wrong

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 09/18/2009
- StJames I'm a Fan of StJames 69 fans permalink
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Oh loki, I know exactly what you mean...By any chance did you see Bill Moyers Journal last night on PBS? He had two gentlemen from Labor talking about the crisis in labor today. They both made excellent points. The only way we will get real reform in tis country, reform that rebuilds the middle class, is if the Labor Movement is revived and becomes active and vocal. I will be out there supporting it if they do. I hope you'll join me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 09/19/2009
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WOO HOOOOO! This is what I have been waiting for. So listen, I am still in school, and already have a loan balance. I will rack up considerbly more debt over the next several years. How is all of this going to work?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 09/17/2009
- StJames I'm a Fan of StJames 69 fans permalink
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Hope you're only a freshman, cuz, it always takes time for these things to go into effect. If I remember correctly, I made my loan applications directly to a goivernment agency. But that was in 1965, so I may be wrong about that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 09/19/2009
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I am, and will be in school for the next 6 - 7 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 09/25/2009
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Excellent! This criminal enterprise should have been dismantled ages ago; it's been nothing but a legal indentured servant system from the beginning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 09/17/2009
- go23 I'm a Fan of go23 8 fans permalink

Nobody forces anyone to take out a loan for college. The borrower is always a slave to the lender. That is how it works, no matter the context.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 09/17/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 128 fans permalink
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have you ever seen the prices of schools lately? And you cant make a living wage these days with out some kind of degree. Its the way the system is structured. Its what the Ivy Greeders worked so hard for. You have to a degree. Doesnt matter anymore if you have the skills unless you have the paper to hang on the walls. There is no more apprenticeships or passing on skills to your sons and daughters. Now its a minimum 4 year degree, and working at least a year as a non paid intern just to get into a just above poverty level paying job. To do that, you either have to be lucky, or borrow. Its the way the elitist have decided to structure the system, and its the way things are to be. Flip burgers and starve, or borrow for education, and starve while paying it back. what a choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 09/18/2009
- Chapmanp2 I'm a Fan of Chapmanp2 12 fans permalink

BRAVO!!! Why private banks were EVER allowed to prey on the future of our Country at great profit to them & great expense to humanity is beyond me. If these private industries had exercised restraint & control there would have been no problem. Unfortunately greed played the deciding role & now FINALLY a little justice may be served...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 09/17/2009
- tel8034 I'm a Fan of tel8034 88 fans permalink

In one Commonwealth country, the banks VOLUNTEER their services to the government in the administration of student loans.

The student and parents make an application to the education department for the loan.

The banks send VOLUNTEERS to assist in processing the application, and they work under one roof along with the department of education staff to complete the task.

The banks set up individual approved student loan accounts at their institutions, and the government transfers the approved funds to these accounts with instructions for disbursement over the course of study. The banks merely act as a holding center for the funds, and they also post the monthly interest on the loans at the government specified rate.

The student accesses the funds as needed each semester for tuition, books and room and board (for local colleges and universities in addition to those in the UK, Canada and the USA)......... The student doesn't receive the entire loan funding in a lump sum.............

Repayments are made by the student or the loan guarantor to the same account when due, with the banks forwarding reports onto the department of Education for review and to follow up on delinquent accounts..­.........R­epayments are forwarded on to the Public Treasury to be recycled for NEW student loans.

All of this is done as SERVICE by the bank with NO PROFIT INCENTIVE.­..........­An example of the public and private sector working TOGETHER for the good of the country and the people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 09/17/2009
- ATL78 I'm a Fan of ATL78 5 fans permalink

Processing fees are attached to each loan and the banks receive other perks/incentives from the government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 09/17/2009
- tel8034 I'm a Fan of tel8034 88 fans permalink

Not in this case ............... Like I said the banks see this as a SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.­..........­..THERE IS NO REVENUE ACRRUING TO THE BANK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 09/17/2009
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