Second Suspect In Yale Murder? Raymond Clark III May Have Had Help In Annie Le Case: Report

Hartford news station WTIC/Fox61 reports that police are questioning a second suspect in the murder of Annie Le.

Sources tell the station that a second person may have helped Raymond Clark III, who was arrested and charged yesterday, hide Le's body behind the wall of a lab building.

Clark's fiancée, sister and brother-in-law all work at the lab.

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[Arrech]

His line of defense:
The rats made him do it.

[fauxmccoy]

this thread is in serious need of angela lansbury

[larry278]

Typo-insert "are" after 'often'.

[larry278]

To repeat-those who jump to conclusions as they try to run down other people should not be surprised if they fall on their face(es) & manage to break their nose(es) & jaw(s) & must expect to break their @$$(es) too. Untrained athletes often injured when they try a sport that is new to the.
Trained, talented, athletes often can avoid injuries.

[ErikW65]

Were the suspect's relatives (that helped get him the job) working that day?

[leroystanks]

The day Le was killed? Yeah, most likely. But animal research takes place in several buildings on the Yale campus, not just the Amistad building. That building has only been operational for a couple of years.

[ErikW65]

So what if animal research takes place at other buildings, or if that building was recently built? That's completely irrelevant to my question.

[CalifroniaMark]

It's possible.

[Gin1234]

If he strangled her, where does the blood come from? I have not read an explanation for it, although one article speaks of blood splatter, and blood on his cloths, on the cleaning fluid bottle, and eveything else.

[kuwaitamoment]

Human-beings usually fight back when people are trying to strangle them!

[Gin1234]

Well, yes of course. But the blood covered a lot of territory, and when the word splatter is used then there was considerable injury. I know all about the scratches, but the amount of it is not explained very much at all.

[biglover]

I am amazed at how into this case some of you are. I guess you all do have some morbid fantasy.

[TRYKER]

Clark apparently had a dispute with Le about the cleaning of the cages, that she wasn't doing a proper job and he was angry over that. That may have started a confrontation where he lost his temper and then it was too late.

[himalayan man]

The email about the cages can easily be a bait. Just because the email was sent doe not mean the intent was to actually discuss about the cages.............

[TRYKER]

Well, it doesn't mean it WASN'T about the cages cleaning either.
The email showed he was already in disagreement with her before she even went there. It was about control, his...and she wasn't following his "orders".
From that starting point, it is just as likely as not that there followed an argument and from that the violent act.
It wasn't a pre-meditated murder or he wouldn't have left the body there so he could be found out.
He hid her body because he hadn't planned a get away, hadn't planned a murder. It was a rage incident.
One report said the body was cut up. That would have made a huge mess...no chance of anyone getting away with that one. Even as a Janitor, he couldn't erase every trace.

[Forester]

The MO (specifically how he attempted to conceal the victim) suggests to me that it was either a spontaneous act or very poor planned. He is probably fairly bright given his occupation, and is known to be fastidious - so the crime scene suggests to me an unplanned hom.icide.

[GunneraGirl]

i agree. this kid didn't know he had that in him. there's nothing but tragedy and heartbreak every where you look in this horrifying situation.

the records from the swipe cards place them together in one room, after which le's swipe card was never used again, while his card shows he ran in 'frantic' manner from room to room, until he found the utilities cupboard.

video shows him leaving the building after that in a manner described as 'distraught'.

[Steph55]

Surprise, one does not have to be bright to "clean out the animal cages" as we're told his job was described. I mean really, does that sound like the job a "bright" individual has to you?

And here's a newsflash: lots of murders are planned but they have no plan for the escape. People who commit murder, are not the "bright" ones, otherwise they would know 1) there is something called 'walk away' 2) there is something called 'deal with it' 3) there is something called forensics, and these days that means your a@* is in trouble, cause they *can* find a needle in the haystack, and the murderer may never even see the haystack..­.......suc­h is the level of scrutiny that can be achieved with dna, ballistics, fingerprint, fiber, and other analysis in the 21st century.

If you're really "bright" you just don't kill someone, it's really just that simple. Otherwise, you'll be standing in court with the stoopic look that says " Oh S*%@ I just got caught!" DUH??? Well yes, you did. Not very "bright".

[glorialovelace]

"Surprise, one does not have to be bright to "clean out the animal cages" as we're told his job was described. I mean really, does that sound like the job a "bright" individual has to you?"

Cleaning the cages was just a small part of what he did. In fact, he had quite a bit of responsibility.

[kuwaitamoment]

Not sure how "bright" you have to be for his job but they did report
he was an honor student in high school. Not sure why he didn't go
on to college but I think it's wrong to assume that people with low-level
jobs are not also smart and intelligent.

[Forester]

You are not following Steph. My thesis is that the crime was not premeditated because of the fact that her remains were hidden so haphazardly. Clark had a technical job and was in fact the head of maintaining the animal facilities which would imply he was at least of average intelligence. He was intimately familiar with the facility and the camera system, so his actions were clearly spontaneous. Even a person of average intelligence who was planning such a crime would have disposed of Le so as not to implicate himself. Nothing should surprise you here. You may also want to look at reality with regard to homicide. The vast majority of homicides remain unsolved, and given that people have a range of IQ's this proves that even people of low intelligence are able to commit the crime and avoid conviction. I could give you a list of famous examples, but I'll leave that to you.

[himalayan man]

The wounds on Clark's chest and back probably happened because of Le's fingernails (that's my intuition on this from the very first day for some reason) which means that she was forced into the wall or the ground. And the most likely reason for that might have been an aggravated sexual assault.
The police have said that it is a workplace crime though. A crime of passion or a crime of control?
Both are equally dangerous of course.

[glorialovelace]

How about substituting "may have" for "probably."

The police have already discounted your lubricious theory about sexual assault. You should inform yourself better before you post.

[himalayan man]

what's with this hostility for a simple comment? Unfortunately I have not been hunting all the websites for this news. Care to enlighten a fool like me with a link? (the exact one where the police have said what happened?

[Steph55]

Actually the police has said very little unequivocally. You nor any of us know all the details of the autopsy.

Have you ever heard of the Mary Lou Witherspoon case? She was killed by a young man she knew and lovingly tried to make a relationship with since he was a small child; her fiance was his father. The guy was crazy all out; killed her, raped her, although he intended to impersonate her, took her drivers license and had a new one made with HIS pic, in a female impersonators disguise, was set to take out a home owners loan, to finance, ............his sex change operation. So much of male rage comes out of their *ahem* "body parts", no matter their sexual orientation or excuse!

The guy Raped her..........even though he so wanted to be a "woman" and wanted to be "her". Tell me how much sense that makes. Every time I hear some dimwit lawyer, say, my client didn't kill the victim because it "made no sense" I am torn between barfing and laughing.

That WOULD be exactly the point, doesn't make any sense UNLESS you are the prepetrator. Stop trying to make "sense" out of the workings of people who minds that do NOT adhere to common sense or sanity, or agreed upon mores. If it "made sense" they would not have done what they did, and YES, rape is a very common tactic of male murderers against females. It is just what they do.

[kuwaitamoment]

Why, oh why do you people CONSTANTLY want to talk about this poor woman
being raped or sexually assaulted when there has been NO EVIDENCE?
Americans are WAY too sexually repressed and it always comes out when
a young woman has been killed. The first thought is always about sex and
rape. Isn't being dead bad enough? Does she also have to have been
raped and dead?

[himalayan man]

Commenting on a subject = Wanting the event to happen.
Maybe that applies in your head. And stop commenting on how Americans are scrwed up. Kuwait and the rest of the Muslim countries don't even full rights for women. That is a FACT.

[glorialovelace]

The police have said she was NOT sexually assaulted.

[glorialovelace]

They are getting off on projecting their own sick fantasies on this news story.

[oldschoololdsoul]

There had to be more to this than a workplace confrontation. Clark had an Asian fetish but couldn't act on it. The meeting was set up to either make a pass or rape her. But she fought back and he choked her.

[glorialovelace]

Where did you read that Clark had an "Asian fetish?" Link, please.

[kuwaitamoment]

Probably from Pat Brown, NBC's "criminal Profiler" who seems to think all
crimes against women have to do with sex and domination. Since Clark was
part of an Asian tolerance club in high school, she CLAIMS that he
"obviously" had an "Asian fetish" and was mad that Le had chosen
"another White guy" instead of him and was trying to dominate Le.

She disagrees with the police's assessment that this was a case of
workplace violence. I guess she knows more stuff than the people who
actually have the EVIDENCE in their hands.

But more B.S. by the media.

[jessicajuliette]

he was in the Asian Awareness Club in high school...

[TRYKER]

I doubt it was sexual from the start . Some think that rape is the only reason he would attack her. He may have gone for a two-for...if he attacked and overpowered her in an argument...and decided to rape her after that.
But he couldn't have expected to get away with rape either, so doubt that was his motive. He wouldn't send her an email asking to meet him there and have pre-planned a rape or murder.
He was a control freak, he was fastidious, she wasn't keeping "his cages" clean enough, he had disagreements ongoing about this with her as well as other scientists there. It was an argument that escalated out of control and he killed her.
He had a history of control issues with women. Neighbors often heard him shouting at his fiance in his apt. He forced a girl friend to have sex and she didn't want to press charges. He is a control freak.

[kuwaitamoment]

ONE neighbor claimed to have heard him shouting at his girlfriend.
ONE girl in highschool who he was in a relationship with claims that
ONCE he "forced sex" on her. She didn't file charges and didn't try to prove
her case.

Unfortunately, MOST guys have done the above two at some point in their
lives.

[AlltheBuzzfromCali]

One of her professors who was interviewed said something like, "She went down to the lab to inject the mice." He evidently didn't know about the requested meeting. Looks like Annie had no fear of Ray or she wouldn't have gone in there alone. She was very safety conscious (wrote an article about campus safety) and it seems like she would have said to herself "that dude is a little strange, the lab is kind of isolated, I don't want to be alone with him so I'll ask a buddy to go with me" if she had some disturbing vibes off of him.

[ObliqueReference]

All of you people that are following this story are sick in the head.
This story doesn't involve you at all.
It's just your morbid fascination with murder, public spectacle and gossip.

Get a life.

[GunneraGirl]

or you could click onto another thread and stop projecting on us.

[Jeffreygeez]

Too much time spent on the reason the defendant may have killed her. Annie Le no longer is on the planet, whatever the reason, motive etc is.

That is what happens in these cases all the emphasis is put on the defendants motives. Who cares. Certainly not Annie Lee.

The excuses or motives do not count, nor does remorse be it real or not. A fellow human no longer has the opportiunity to live because someone took that away from her. Her life cannot be replaced or paid for. That is what this should be about, Annie Le.

[Gin1234]

How do you know it doesn't involve us, if you haven't been following it, yourself. Bet you have.

[NoahVail]

How do you know there is not a 3rd or 4th person involved? Uh, where do you live, by the way....

Heh, heh, heh....

[dems08]

"second suspect"

means that clark is the "first suspect"

[jtmoney]

are you sure it doesn't mean he was the 3rd?