Nate Silver: Health Care Is Hazardous To Poll Numbers For Grassley, Other Senators

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First Posted: 09-22-09 06:10 PM   |   Updated: 09-23-09 01:36 AM

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fivethirtyeight.com:

One of the things about the so-called Gang of Six -- the group of Senators to which Max Baucus issued an exclusive invitation to participate in health care negotiations -- is that each one started out the year in a place of seeming electoral invincibility. Baucus, Kent Conrad, Jeff Bingaman, Olympia Snowe, Chuck Grassley and Mike Enzi won re-election with an average of 72 percent of the vote as of their last election, and none had a challenger that came closer than 39 points.

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One of the things about the so-called Gang of Six -- the group of Senators to which Max Baucus issued an exclusive invitation to participate in health care negotiations -- is that each one started out...
One of the things about the so-called Gang of Six -- the group of Senators to which Max Baucus issued an exclusive invitation to participate in health care negotiations -- is that each one started out...
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- dawnec1957 I'm a Fan of dawnec1957 54 fans permalink
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WOW, did you see that ??? Sen Snowe voted with the Democrats !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 09/23/2009
- dawnec1957 I'm a Fan of dawnec1957 54 fans permalink
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twice..fir­st voted against Hatches amendment and then she voted for Baucus's amendment.­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 09/23/2009
- Photon55 I'm a Fan of Photon55 17 fans permalink

I don't know if Grassley is a product of the public school system in Iowa, but you have to give the system credit for such an individual to rise to the level he has in national politics. He is a poster boy for the Peter Principle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 09/23/2009

All GOP LOVE MED ADVANTAGE!

They created in in 2003!

TOO BAD they cannot admit FAULT!

COuntry First and ALL!

Aug 27-2009- on C-Span-

Tom Scully- Bush's CMS Administrator stated Medicare Advantage, Part C- is overpaid!

This is what OBAMA wants to CUT!

Back door elimination to Medicare Med Advantage is now unfolding as to why this was infiltrated into Medicare.

Mr. Scully admits that Med Advantage turned out to be tactfully wrong- he would not admit the other failure- the philosophical failure.

Yet they continue to scare the seniors with their 'death panels' rhetoric.

Scully admits politically- no one wants to tell those 10 million seniors on Med Advantage that the benefits that were subsidized by tax dollars to Insurance companies will no longer be given thus they will not get the benefits they thought they were going to get.

GOP will not - will never admit what they set up has failed miserably.

Just like GOP will never admit MED D failed miserably.

Back door elimination to all democratic institutions- that is the C-Street Philosophy.

NO GOP with GUTS!

NONE of you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 09/23/2009
- dawnec1957 I'm a Fan of dawnec1957 54 fans permalink
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GD, Baucus is a whimp...he is letting the rethugs bully him so they can rant....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 09/23/2009
- dawnec1957 I'm a Fan of dawnec1957 54 fans permalink
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cut roberts off...he is out of order !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 09/23/2009
- djgonebad I'm a Fan of djgonebad 8 fans permalink
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The Repug's remind me of a dog that chases it's tail; only the dog doesn't affect the Nation as a whole.

Their arguments are not based in logic or facts; they just side with the money changers that line their pockets for their re-election bids.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 09/23/2009
- blueken I'm a Fan of blueken 53 fans permalink
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There are 47 million un-insured that have little voice in this debate. They are working to keep a roof over their heads and feed their families. There are even more people out there that have stagnant wages and the percent of their compensation that is eaten up by employer paid health care insurance grows every year. Every year I see increases in deductables and co-pays. I'm just waiting for the next loophole the insurance companies come up with to limit my coverage while increasing the premiums. The tipping point will come when Americans and American business opens their eyes to how much health care is draining our economy. When that happens some politicians are going to be in a world of hurt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 09/23/2009

These old men want to deprive living Americans of decent affordable healthcare insurance after they are dead.

Didn't Thomas Jefferson muse that America belongs to the living!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 09/23/2009
- PWM I'm a Fan of PWM 253 fans permalink
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The founding Fathers intended the government to provide for people:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." - Declaration of Independence

The rights to be secured are life, liberty,and the pursuit of happiness. Those rights are violated by the insurance industry who can deny anyone these rights by using the preexisting clause to sentence them to death.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 09/23/2009
- ljc I'm a Fan of ljc 109 fans permalink

Come on HP we need a live blog during the Mark Up Committee.­..Make it happen. They are trying to stall the vote as we speak...Sn­owe is on board with stalling..­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 09/23/2009
- dawnec1957 I'm a Fan of dawnec1957 54 fans permalink
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Yes I agree, I am watching the Mark up as well. I am looking forward to the Nelson amendment.­. I want to see grassley fume again...La­st night was PRICELESS !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 09/23/2009
- ljc I'm a Fan of ljc 109 fans permalink

Finance Committee Mark Up on C-SPAN 3... Be there or be square....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 09/23/2009
- Dustee I'm a Fan of Dustee 60 fans permalink
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Thanks!

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN3_wm.aspx

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 09/23/2009
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 230 fans permalink
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They're in more trouble than they realize.

Congressional approval:
Northeast D 53% R 7%
Midwest D 45% R 13%
West D 43% R 13%
South D 21% R 31%
Political parties:
Northeast D 62% R 7%
Midwest D 46% R 13%
West D 44% R 14%
South D 20% R 50%

http://www.americablog.com/2009/09/gop-is-new-parti-quebecois.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 09/23/2009
- ljc I'm a Fan of ljc 109 fans permalink

Grassley " Want good health insurance ? Get a job with the Government or Caterpillar "

Out of touch, out of touch, out of touch.....­.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 09/23/2009
- Elbrando I'm a Fan of Elbrando 48 fans permalink

These guys are in trouble. This is the low point of health care and it seems to be rolling along. Healthcare is going to pass and if they are not on board the train will just roll right over them.

That being said, in order for someone to lose you need someone to win. Progressives need to find opponents for them to beat them in the elections. I'm lucky in that Feingold is my Senator in WI and he is wonderful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 09/23/2009
- ddDinah I'm a Fan of ddDinah 22 fans permalink

If Only Blue Dogs and RINOs Could Breed!

....make no mistake this is the future in politics. Centrist from both parties.

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/23/if-only-blue-dogs-and-rinos-could-breed/#more-33183

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 09/23/2009
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I got a real kick out of watching this fool howl on C-Span last night. He and the rest of the Republican jackasses on the Finance Committee appear to be rehearsing for the next batman movie. Poor Bunning fell asleep after railing about government takeover and socialism. Republicans are nothing but shills for the insurance/drug industry . When the amendment came up offering 86 billion in savings and essentially closing the donut hole for medicare/medicaid seniors, the Republicans collectively had a seizure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 09/23/2009
- ljc I'm a Fan of ljc 109 fans permalink

I saw that also... Grassley is downright mean and what is up with his interrupting, how rude. Shumer and Nelson were bent over laughing at him behind Debbie Stabenow. Did you see that ?
Can't wait for Part Deux of the Republican Clown show today....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 09/23/2009

Grassley is awesome! He has steel you know whats! He stands up to weed out fraud and corruption. Obviously "special interest" lobbyist want to attack him. One only has to look at his record and what he has done for consumers to realize that this is just an attack on a pillar of ethics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 09/23/2009
- dawnec1957 I'm a Fan of dawnec1957 54 fans permalink
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and you left out the 30 BILLION DOLLAR surplus AFTER the donut hole is CLOSED.. LIKE the Dems said last night, this is a WIN WIN WIN WIN situation.­. ANd the Rethugs want to veto it...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 09/23/2009
- gespenster I'm a Fan of gespenster 8 fans permalink
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THAT IS the reason that they can't pass so-called 'reform,' NOT the Republicans.

At least the TRUTH is finally coming out in print. The Democrats KNOW 'We the people' will loathe this once they see it first hand and they are ONLY concerned with retaining their seats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 09/23/2009
- ljc I'm a Fan of ljc 109 fans permalink

ha! you are wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 09/23/2009
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