VA Late On GI Bill Checks

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The Huffington Post   |  Julian Hattem
First Posted: 09-24-09 10:55 AM   |   Updated: 11-24-09 05:12 AM

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Bureaucratic delays have left veterans using the Post-9/11 GI Bill with no money to pay college bills.

Patrick Campbell, chief legislative counsel for the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, blames foot-dragging in Veterans Affairs offices.  The department, he said, "has a slow and outdated system that forces them to do every claim by hand." Each claim takes about two hours to process.

This is the first academic year for the bill, which took effect August 1. The government is supposed to send tuition money directly to schools, while veterans get a separate check for books and housing.

But it's not working. The Department of Veterans Affairs claims that the average processing time for a new report is 56 days, meaning that even if a student had submitted paperwork on August 1, it is probably still in bureaucratic limbo. Calls to the Post-9/11 GI Bill's help line are greeted with a recording stating that the department has received "an unprecedented number of education claims.  As a result, it is temporarily taking longer than usual." A disclaimer on the VA's website discourages calling.

As of mid-September, over 276,000 educational claims were still pending, compared with 68,000 at this time last year. That means over half a million work-hours yet to process the current claims -- not counting those yet to be filed. And plans for an automated system are not expected to be realized until at least January of 2010.

As a result, students have been counting on the patience and generosity of college registrars. Many schools, like the University of Michigan, are advancing credit to student veterans based on their estimated amount of aid.



Even then, students are still in the lurch when it comes to money for housing and books --  and a growing concern is that landlords and book stores will not be as kind as schools. "Even if your living allowance isn't coming in until mid-October," remarked Campbell, "you owe rent on September 1." That means taking out loans and piling up credit card debt. Said Campbell, "the whole point of the new GI Bill was that veterans wouldn't have to do that."



The Army Times reports that officials expect the majority of students will be paid living expenses by October 1 -- including retroactive money for the beginning of the school year. In the meantime, schools and vets alike are left waiting. But some students, like former Army Flight Operations Specialist Douglas Prough, are not completely confident: "I have my fingers crossed" for getting a check sometimes this month, he said.

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Bureaucratic delays have left veterans using the Post-9/11 GI Bill with no money to pay college bills. Patrick Campbell, chief legislative counsel for the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, bl...
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First, I’d like to thank Julian Hattem at Huffington Post for writing this article.

I am one of the many veterans who have yet to get paid though this new bill. One thing to note, which I have not read in most stories on this topic, involves disabled veterans who try to utilize this program.

The truth is, if you’re a veteran and you’re actually out of the military, you’re most likely disabled, as this is a post 9/11 Bill. (Stop loss makes getting out the old fashioned way with an Honorable discharge rare.)

Having said that, I think it’s important for people to note--especially in this story--that a great majority of these vets, including myself, are not getting their education benefits, but more importantly, they’re not getting the medical care and/or disability compensation they need.

I, like many disabled veterans, signed up for this program because it is encouraged by the VA. And because so many of us are either receiving inadequate disability compensation or none, many of us jumped at the opportunity to get money to go to school; more so, we jumped for the money.

Many students like me are forgoing medical care and proper treatment for one thing: Money.

If we can’t get money to assuage our disabled lifestyle from the VA, where do we turn? Cost of Living Money from the VA, perhaps?

This new program has served as a magnet for undertreated disabled vets from post 9/11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 AM on 09/29/2009
- UNLVGOP I'm a Fan of UNLVGOP 5 fans permalink

And why am I supposed to trust these people w/ my healthcare?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 09/25/2009
- 305Rider I'm a Fan of 305Rider 48 fans permalink
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Because the VA along with Medicare provide good healthcare for their patients, both of them are government-run.

If only they could stop Congress from raiding these programs to pay for things like tax cuts to the rich.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 AM on 09/25/2009
- Patriot86 I'm a Fan of Patriot86 38 fans permalink

Of course not, you should trust the death panels also known as health insurance companies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 09/25/2009
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You are confusing health care with health management. The VA offers FANTASTIC health care. It does not do health care management so well. Neither do the health insurances.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 09/25/2009
- Rayme I'm a Fan of Rayme 13 fans permalink

This is the same government that is suppose to give us Health Care Reform, sounds like Death Panels due to government inability to pay the bills on time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 09/25/2009
- 305Rider I'm a Fan of 305Rider 48 fans permalink
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Keep telling yourself that while the grownups are in charge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 AM on 09/25/2009
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 50 fans permalink

If you assign any job to the VA, the VA will fail to do it properly & promptly. To go off thread, I get my medications from the Pharmacy of VA Out-Patient Clinic, Allentown, Pa. Often the VA doesn't send me the proper dosage of medication a VA physician orders for me, fails to send me the proper medication, fails to send me an adequate supply, mixes another medication wIth the medicine my VA doctors have ordered for me, from time to time fails to send me refills of Rx's my care givers order in my behalf, fails to give me the reason why the VAOPC, Allentown, Pa's Pharmacy makes mistakes in dispensing my medications. It is necessary for me to have a member of the US Congress to make inquiries in my behalf when the VA abuses me by not sending exactly what my VA doctor orders for this happens with medicine & glasses. The VA has established & is persisting in a pattern of malpractice & patient abuse against me. This latest incidents of patient abuse & malpractice began in Nov, 2007. I'm alive in spite of VAOPC, Allentown, Pa, not because of the care I receive at VAOPC, Allentown, Pa.
The VA plumbs to greater depths daily to establish new nadir in caring for veterans; be it the new GI bill, approving the applications of disabled veterans, paying VA compensation on time to sc disabled veterans. It's unusual for the VA to do anything properly or promptly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 09/25/2009
- 305Rider I'm a Fan of 305Rider 48 fans permalink
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Sounds to me like you need to move. The VA hospital by me in Northport, NY has taken great care of me & they haven't messed up with my meds yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 AM on 09/25/2009
- charon I'm a Fan of charon 23 fans permalink

This reminds me of the old Army when I was in. The VA was much better, but the Army treated us like were disposable. Really sucks, doesn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 09/24/2009
- skullman I'm a Fan of skullman 38 fans permalink
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I went to college under the GI Bill in the late seventies and never had any problems in four years. This is a complete disgrace. President Obama should step in and assure the colleges that this money will be coming soon and that the colleges must be willing to wait for their money because it is not the fault of the vets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 09/24/2009
- cal5000 I'm a Fan of cal5000 11 fans permalink
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I registered before the date that they started processing applications and didnt get my benefits until after the school year started, forcing me to borrow $10K to cover expenses.

I finally got my benefits recently, but the delay wrecked my finances temporarily. I will get all my money back that I paid for school and I can cover any overages that I may occur.

It wasnt Obamas fault--it was the VA getting overwhelmed. It was irritating but understandable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 09/24/2009
- Melissa I'm a Fan of Melissa 24 fans permalink

Same government that wants to take charge of our health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 09/25/2009
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No, Doctors take care of your health care. You are confusing health care with health care management.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 09/25/2009
- 305Rider I'm a Fan of 305Rider 48 fans permalink
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Yea I know, A lot of us vets jumped on this because of the housing allowance and book stipend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 AM on 09/25/2009
- DrToketee I'm a Fan of DrToketee 14 fans permalink

And do you see Obama kicking anybody's ass to get the job done NOW for these deserving veterans?

HELL NO !!! HE'LL JUST KEEP LOOKING FORWARD AND LET CONGRESS TAKE CARE OF IT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 09/24/2009

There are no crimes or other malfeasances ever!
Don't ask and don't go looking for them,
just keep on looking down the road.
Forward, ever forward,
where nothing ever happens
because tomorrow never comes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 AM on 09/25/2009
- SvrWx I'm a Fan of SvrWx 12 fans permalink
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Why do you have a picture of kids who are in a military school (non-academy) to represent Veterans issues? Didn't have a better stock photo?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 09/24/2009
- quiviran I'm a Fan of quiviran 25 fans permalink

Actually looks like ROTC students. Not the same as veteran students. Mostly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 09/24/2009

This is not "new" - the VA is regularly late on paying for GI Benefits to colleges and universities...been going on this way since I went back to college ages ago... they always come through and the college's know that... you can't blame this on Obama you... you... Republican you...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 09/24/2009
- 305Rider I'm a Fan of 305Rider 48 fans permalink
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Hopefully they will have this fixed by October. A lot of veterans including me are depending on the housing money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 09/24/2009
- hamchunk I'm a Fan of hamchunk 20 fans permalink

Hellz yeah, brother; me too. In April 2010.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 09/24/2009
- jordan327 I'm a Fan of jordan327 56 fans permalink

Obama hates the military.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 09/24/2009

Obama has nothing to do with it, it started last year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 09/24/2009
- UNLVGOP I'm a Fan of UNLVGOP 5 fans permalink

Article says it began August 1st.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 09/25/2009
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What a joke. If he had doubled the staff at the Veterans Department to cover this, you would be complaining that he was just growing the government more, more big government.

If you knew anything you'd know that Obama has done more positive for veterans in the last 8 months than GWB did in eight years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 09/24/2009

LOL he's the one that pushed for more money for vets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 09/24/2009
- Tahut I'm a Fan of Tahut 9 fans permalink
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The repuglicans won't fill vacancies in the government with Obama's nominees that are necessary from the Department of Veteran Affairs to the DoJ. If you're gonna complain, it's good to know exactly who to blame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 09/24/2009
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"The repuglicans won't fill vacancies in the government with Obama's nominees that are necessary from the Department of Veteran Affairs to the DoJ. If you're gonna complain, it's good to know exactly who to blame."

Amen to that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 09/24/2009

I did not know Obama had to go to Congress to provide paper pushing employees in the local VA office. You don't know much about the process, do you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 09/25/2009
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