Oklahoma City Bombing Tapes Appear Edited: Attorney (VIDEO)

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First Posted: 09-27-09 05:45 PM   |   Updated: 09-27-09 05:57 PM

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OKLAHOMA CITY (AP)-- Long-secret security tapes showing the chaos immediately after the 1995 bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building are blank in the minutes before the blast and appear to have been edited, an attorney who obtained the recordings said Sunday.

"The real story is what's missing," said Jesse Trentadue, a Salt Lake City attorney who obtained the recordings through the federal Freedom of Information Act as part of an unofficial inquiry he is conducting into the April 19, 1995, bombing that killed 168 people and injured hundreds more.

Trentadue gave copies of the tapes to The Oklahoman newspaper, which posted them online and provided copies to The Associated Press.

The tapes turned over by the FBI came from security cameras various companies had mounted outside office buildings near the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. They are blank at points before 9:02 a.m., when a truck bomb carrying a 4,000 pound fertilizer-and-fuel-oil bomb detonated in front of the building, Trentadue said.

"Four cameras in four different locations going blank at basically the same time on the morning of April 19, 1995. There ain't no such thing as a coincidence," Trentadue said.

He said government officials claim the security cameras did not record the minutes before the bombing because "they had run out of tape" or "the tape was being replaced."

"The interesting thing is they spring back on after 9:02," he said. "The absence of footage from these crucial time intervals is evidence that there is something there that the FBI doesn't want anybody to see."

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A spokesman for the FBI in Oklahoma City, Gary Johnson, declined to comment and referred inquiries about the tapes to FBI officials in Washington, who were not immediately available for comment Sunday.

The soundless recordings show people rushing from nearby buildings after the bomb went off. Some show people fleeing through corridors cluttered with debris. None show the actual explosion that ripped through the federal building.

FBI agents did not report finding any security tapes from the federal building itself.

The FBI in the past refused to release the security camera recordings, leading Trentadue and others to contend the government was hiding evidence that others were involved in the attack.

"It's taken a lawsuit and years to get the tapes," Trentadue said.

He received the latest batch of tapes over the summer in response to an April request for video from security cameras in 11 different locations. Nothing on the tapes was unexpected.

"The more important thing they show is what they don't show," Trentadue said. "These cameras would have shown the various roads and approaches to the Murrah Building."

Trentadue began looking into the bombing after his brother, Kenneth Trentadue, died at the Oklahoma City Federal Transfer Center in August 1995. Kenneth Trentadue was a convicted bank robber who was held at the federal prison after being picked up as a parole violator at his home in San Diego in June 1995.

He was never a bombing suspect, but Jesse Trentadue alleges guards mistook his brother for one and beat him to death during an interrogation. The official cause of Kenneth Trentadue's death is listed as suicide, but his body had 41 wounds and bruises that Jesse Trentadue believes could have come only from a beating.

A judge in 2001 awarded Kenneth Trentadue's family $1.1 million for extreme emotional distress in the government's handling of his death.

Jesse Trentadue said he has received about 30 security tapes, including some images that were used as evidence at bomber Timothy McVeigh's trial. McVeigh was convicted on federal murder and conspiracy charges and executed in 2001. Coconspirator Terry Nichols is serving life in prison on federal and state bombing convictions.

Trentadue said he is seeking more tapes along with a variety of bombing-related documents from the FBI and the CIA. An FOIA request by Trentadue for 26 CIA documents was rejected in June. A letter from the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, which reviewed the documents, said their release "could cause grave damage to our national security."

Trentadue said he gave the latest set of tapes to The Oklahoman because of their historical value. The newspaper has agreed to provide copies to the Oklahoma City National Memorial & Museum.

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CBS and Dan Rahter - 1993 WTC bombing and FBI involvement. Anyone see a pattern here?
Yes, Clinton did it. Ultimately he is responsible for what the a branch of the federal government does. Do your own research and look into the 1993 WTC bombing. You will be surprised what you find.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1822942395

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 09/28/2009
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Oh please, could they just release ANY evidence McVeigh was there alone that disputes all the eyewitnesses and paper trails?

I know it's impossible, but I would really like to be PROVEN wrong on this.

Life would be so much simpler.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 09/28/2009
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You loons have fun working each other into a lather. Get each other all frothing at the mouth while developing 'alternative theories' while you work diligently at discrediting factual accounts. I might consider it good fun if it wasn't so sad. I am sure someone else will come along for you to attack, I am outta here~!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 09/28/2009
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Is it because I gave you some information to go back to your handler with? :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 09/28/2009
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Oh, I just got the post were you state: "I listed off known Facts that you do not discount, and yet you claim I know nothing."

I went through all your posts I couldn't find one "F"act.

You mentioned something about "10 to 1 engineers agree" in one post, but I don't deal too much with the extra bombs stuff... which FEDERAL EMPLOYED witnesses place a person of interest with a group of people in the basement installing "something" ...I leave it at that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 09/28/2009
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They could have been installing a cotton candy machine, I don't care. I don't need that debate, and there's enough evidence without it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 09/28/2009
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I remember Timothy McVeigh being interviewed before he was disposed of, he was more convincing than this guy. Especially when he talkied about "collateral damage" regarding all those children killed. I think they got the right guys on this one. You'd think if the government was involved they would use something other than manure to power their bomb. Conspiracy theories are interesting and do give you something to think about, but, this bombing lies at the feet of McVeigh and Nichols.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 09/28/2009
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How much research have you done? 10hrs? 20? 200? The more you dig the more you will know. The less you dig the more you continue to be indoctrinated by your government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 09/28/2009
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Please enlighten the rest of us regarding these 'facts' you have determined from your hours of reasearch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 09/28/2009
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I can state my opinion, and if you dont like it you know what you can do about it. NOTHING!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 09/29/2009
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No one can win an argument with a conspiracy theorist because they are motivated by the null spaces, the gaps, the missing pieces. They are convinced there is something important in those gaps, so they backfill them with whatever makes for a good plot line in "24". While that may make life more interesting, it doesn't serve any useful purpose. Look at ALL the recent conspiracy theories about Obama. Same thing. "Where's his REAL birth certificate? Why can't he provide a REAL one?" Show them the one that's been released. "This isn't the ORIGINAL? Where is THAT?" Round and round we go, looking for leprechauns and pots of not of gold but pictures of the grassy knoll sho o ters and a document proving Bush planned 9/11.

SOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 09/28/2009
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Might I also point out that it is gaps that motivate creationists to deny evolution's validity. Same modus operandi as the other conspiracies.

SOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 09/28/2009
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Yes, and notice how when you point these things out, you simply become a lightening rod for their angst. They demand you answer questions that you don't even care to entertain because the gaps strung together to arrive at their questions make them pointless to someone who knows how to apply logic. Always consider the source when listening to something or someone, and you can generally arrive at the correct conclusion. The whole thing is silly, and yet most of the people ranting on here about how they just KNOW this happened also will point at the Birth Certificate garbage as being silly or foolish and not worth their time, even though they are the SAME THING.....­Good post!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 09/28/2009
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The Watergate tapes had a gap too. Turned out to be pretty important one if I remember.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 09/28/2009
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So you think maybe Nixon had something to do with these video's being edited...h­mmm, you could be on to something!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 09/28/2009
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My first thoughts exactly after I read this post. The O KC tapes were being changed my @s$. It's about as lame as the excuse Presi dent Ni xon gave for his blank tapes. His transcriber Rose Mary Woods "accidentally" erased 18.5 minutes of tape during a phone call. Whoops.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 09/28/2009
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Well, that's what's called an unfair comparison. There are legitimate reasons why the original birth certificate cannot be produced. No real birth certificate has been produced to the contrary. There is supporting evidence that was not contrived by the government. There are no credible eyewitnesses to the contrary. And Orly and company cannot hold a logical debate about it.

OKC, we have 80 eyewitnesses to the contrary compared to 1 that supports the gov't claim. We have reports at the scene that are contrary. We have evidence supplied by the government that has been blatantly tampered to reveal nothing. We have FBI 302's from informants inside Eloham City who are on record of warning the FBI. We have service records of McVeigh showing that he was accepted (not discharged) in special forces. We have survivors, former federal employees, who are witnesses to the contrary that go unheard of in the official record and claim that they have been intimidated by the gov't to be quiet.

Only someone who wants the facts to twist into their prevailing belief would see these things as similar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 09/28/2009
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"No one can win an argument with a conspiracy theorist"

You mean like Nixon with Watergate, Reagan with Iran/Contra, like the CIA with MK Ultra, like the DoSS with Project Paperclip, like US Public Health Service with Tuskegee, like JFK with Bay of Pigs, like the CIA with the "Cuban Project", like the DoD and Project Northwood, Like the CIA and Project Midnight Climax, Like LBJ with the Gulf of Tonkin, like LBJ with the USS Liberty "attacks"

All proven!

But like I said earlier... you don't have to believe that the gov't intentionally meant to harm any innocents doing this, just that they dropped the ball on a couple sting operations and are covering their butts. That doesn't sound too outlandish, does it? I mean, look what the gov't has done to people before!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 09/28/2009
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You all want to use innuendo's and leaps in logic to arrive at a conclusion other then what is right in front of you. McVeigh admitted his guilt, 10 engineers to 1 have looked at the evidence of the damage done and it holds up, you can follow McVeighs timeline, how he worked with Nichols and the couple that had explicit prior knowledge leading up to it and how it all transpired. No gaps, no additional un-exploded bombs, except for the one's created in the mind of conspiracy theorists, no stories from rescue workers or other witnesses, just the musings of the vapid minds of those that HAVE to believe the government was behind it all somehow. Now you want to listen to a guy who has an axe to grind about how his brother died (now that does sound as though something was going on there!), but there is nothing that ties his brothers death to this, other then his own assumptions and beliefs, and you all so quickly want to jump on the bandwagon of what this guy is claiming as being the smoking gun somehow proving what you have so long believed..­.....Sad really....­..Just sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 09/28/2009
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Everything you just said about a lack of evidence is a lie.
Everything you said about a lack of witnesses is a lie.

And that's what's sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 09/28/2009
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What is sad is that you just said absolutely NOTHING. Proof, where is it? Not your 'friend', not some 3rd party, not some website that spreads the same garbage being spewed on here, but PROOF. Wait let me guess, the government rounded everyone up and made them look at a shiny beam of light that made them forget everything they knew about that day? Sigh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 09/28/2009
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And at the same time, the FBI refused to release these tapes, and when they do, there's nothing on them that makes you say, "Oh, no WONDER they didn't release them?
So if there was nothing goofy on them, why wait over a decade to release them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 09/28/2009
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It is called the FBI, not the "Release Everything to the Public" department. It doesn't matter what the FBI does, you will find your 'proof' in whatever they release or don't release conveniently located in whatever percieved gap you find. They could release a completely unedited copy of the info and you would simply move to some other perceived gap in the story. Mcveigh was caught, convicted and executed. No strange happenings in those facts or the facts leading up to it involving Nichols or how they did on the anniversary of the Waco incident involving Koresh to send an anti-government message. All the facts right there, and you demand answers about some tapes that the FBI had and how they edited them....si­gh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 09/28/2009

So, you actually believe:

-Four separate CCTV cameras ran out of tape at the same time
-Four different people simultaneously replaced the tapes at four different locations
-After the Federal building exploded, all four continued to replace the tapes instead of going out to see what happened

Yep, that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 09/28/2009
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No, I have no concerns about the tapes, and don't buy the story or what this guy is saying. Consider your source for what 'supposedly' happened to the tapes. I don't care what happened to the tapes and don't care, for all I know this is what was provided to the FBI, this is how the FBI edited it because there was nothing there, or there was something the FBI didn't want me to see, and yes even including that last one doesn't mean there is a cover up going on...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 09/28/2009
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And the FBI refused to release these tapes? Why? They don't have to be called the "Release everything to the Public" department to follow common sense. There were conspiracy theories from day one and they witheld evidence to the contrary for absolutely no reason? That sounds like a conspiracy theory too. There was no reason NOT to release the tapes, there was plenty of reason TO release them. They choose not to for a reason. "What was the reason" is a valid question. SIgh, sigh sigh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 09/28/2009
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There is a timeline that I've followed. My "imaginary girlfriend's" got one on him over 250 pages, from 1984-2009, and between 1993-1996 there isn't a gap of an entry of more than a couple days. If it was any more detailed, it would be his diary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 09/28/2009
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I did a grave disservice to her not to mention: this timeline is all cited and all original research.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 09/28/2009
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Check out this story Democracy Now did about the FBI's involvement in the OCB back on August 3, 2007. Positively frightening.

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/8/3/in_search_of_john_doe_no

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 09/28/2009
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Since all liberals seem to live in a parallel universe, I am surprised you all have not blamed Clinton for blowing up the federal building?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 09/28/2009
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No, he didn't blow up the building, he just help covered it up; unfortunately, along with 4 people currently serving as Obama cabinet secretaries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 09/28/2009

Well, I certainly hope that AP continues to press the FBI on the missing footage explanatio­n... but i won't be surprised if we dont hear any more about this. The truth will always be suppressed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 09/28/2009
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Here's something to "chew" on and make some conclusions.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 09/28/2009
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We still haven't got the truth about the Kennedys' assassinations. This, 9-11, and lord knows how many other things have been covered up and we'll never know the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 09/28/2009
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What does anyone ever get from doing these things to us? I just don't understand, but I know it has happened. If they'd just come clean with tapes and test results and transcripts without claiming that EVERYTHING revealed would be a "threat to our national security" - how great that would be! Telling us the truth would be a boon to our national security, if you asked me. The truth is what we need to be safe.

Who are they covering up for? And why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 09/28/2009
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Oh, brother. Here comes the Reynolds Wrap cabal, with their conspiracy theories about false flag ops and aliens and blood sucking goats. The tape ran out and was being replaced won’t cut it.

"Nope, definitely a cover up. There can be no other explanation. Too convenient­..."

I've heard it all, read it all. All it convinces me of is that some people are just bored with the world and have to make up a new one. My advice: write a book of fiction, get an agent and get published. You'll thank me later.

SOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 09/28/2009
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EXPLAIN THE OTHER TAPES.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 09/28/2009
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Explain the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S report that day - that there were mulitple bombs, some of which did not explode and had to be removed by a bomb squad.

Tim Mc Veigh did not have clearance to enter the building and plant them. He was a disgruntled former soldier discharged from the Army - wasn't he? That's what we were later told. He was not a federal agent.

But who did have clearance? That is the question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 09/28/2009
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How about getting a PhD in counter-terrorism with your thesis being the OKC Bombings like my friend is doing? And as she pores over thousands of documents, interviews survivors, witnesses, people of interest, and families of victims, all with stories that do not mesh at all with "official accounts," who have been followed and intimidated by agents, with their phones tapped, and treated like enemies of the state for asking questions the gov't refuses to answer, she is being followed and intimidated as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 09/28/2009
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Does your "friend" only speak to you when others are not around? Does she know what is being hidden at area 51?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 09/28/2009
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Four tapes ran out at exactly the same time, seems a little suspicious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 09/28/2009
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The idea that all four cameras "ran out of tape" simultaneously - and just before KABOOM - sounds like something out of a book of fiction.
I tell you what - if OJ Simpson told you that all four of his security tapes ran out of tape at the same time and were replaced 'just before...' ,his story would be picked apart like a bleeding cow in a swimming pool full of pirahnas.
I can hear it now..."He edited himself out of the tape!" "The blank spots sure look like something was edited out to me...!"
"The blank spots tell the REAL story....!­"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 09/28/2009
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwrEEP8EBk

Thanks, GoBlue.

That's the footage I've seen before. If you don't remind people over nd over, they will maintain there was ONE bomb, a truck bomb detonated by Tim McVeigh.

But federal authorities said and CONFIRMED that very day that there were THREE bombs, two of which were still in the building, more powerfull than the first, that did not explode!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 09/28/2009

Another conspiracy cover up

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5770984395481454022&ei=L_rASpLAL5OorQK53u3hBg&hl=en#

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 09/28/2009
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I had not seen this before. Thank you for showing it. Fanned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 09/28/2009
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One only has to follow the strange tale of John Doe #2, the mistaken identity that resulted in the beating death of a man thought to be him, and why so many people, including Attorney Gen. Eric Holder went to lengths to cover it up and this smells as funny as anything ever that was called a conspiracy theory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 09/28/2009
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