Guinea Protest: Soldiers Raped Women In Streets, Killed Dozens Of Protesters, Say Witnesses

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ALHASSAN SILLAH | 09/29/09 04:03 PM | AP

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CONAKRY, Guinea — Guinea's government said Tuesday it would investigate why troops opened fire on protesters at a pro-democracy rally. A human rights group said 157 people were killed and more than 1,000 were injured.

While saying it would investigate, the government continued to maintain that the protest was illegal. It also said far fewer people died than reported.

Hospitals were flooded with patients Tuesday, and the death toll rose through the day.

Presidential guard troops fired on 50,000 people at the main football stadium Monday, shattering hopes that this West African country was shedding the yoke of dictatorship.

Some of those at the rally, upset that a military officer who seized power in a December coup might run for president in January elections, had chanted: "We want true democracy."

Capt. Moussa "Dadis" Camara's presidential guard opened fire, scattering panicked demonstrators, who left behind scores of dead. Opposition politician Mutarr Diallo said he witnessed soldiers raping women with rifle butts.

The Interior Ministry released a statement late Tuesday saying the government would open an investigation to find out who ordered the soldiers to fire on people with live ammunition. However, the statement said 57 people had been killed, and only four of them were killed by bullets. The rest were trampled or died of asphyxiation, the statement said.

The statement also said the president expressed his condolences to the families who lost loved ones.

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Local journalists said that Camara, who was not at the stadium Monday, visited the wounded in two hospitals in Guinea's capital Tuesday. Earlier he told Radio France International that the violence had been beyond his control.

"Those people who committed those atrocities were uncontrollable elements in the military," he told Radio France International on Monday night. "Even I, as head of state in this very tense situation, cannot claim to be able to control those elements in the military."

Human rights groups demanded that those responsible be made accountable.

"Guinea's leaders should order an immediate end to attacks on demonstrators and bring to justice those responsible for the bloodshed," said Corinne Dufka of Human Rights Watch.

Dr. Chierno Maadjou with the Guinean Organization for Defense of Human Rights said 157 people were killed and more than 1,200 had been wounded.

An Associated Press reporter saw wounded patients crowded into the large Donka Hospital, some with bullet wounds and others who appeared to have been beaten.

Guinea's mineral-rich soil had been plundered by two consecutive dictatorships before Camara seized control of the country a day after President Lansana Conte, who had ruled for nearly a quarter-century, died Dec. 22. Camara initially was embraced by Guineans, thousands of whom lined the streets to applaud him as he rode through the capital on the back of a flatbed military truck.

But since then, tensions have risen amid rumors that Camara may run in presidential elections scheduled for Jan. 31. He initially indicated that he would not but said recently he has the right to do so if he chooses.

Demonstrations against Camara had grown in recent weeks but the reaction by security forces had been comparatively moderate. Late last month, police fired tear gas to break up a demonstration in the capital, and last Thursday tens of thousands of residents in a town north of Conakry took to the streets with no serious incidents.

On the deserted streets of this seaside capital Tuesday, mechanic Mohammed Bangoura discussed politics with friends outside his derelict workshop and said Camara has now completely lost the people's support.

"Dadis Camara's political career, if he had any ambition, is gone. He has made an own goal," Bangoura said, using a soccer term for when a player accidentally scores against his own team. "The killing of all these innocent protesters can only mean doom for his political ambition."

The African Union, the European Union and the government of neighboring Senegal denounced Monday's bloodshed. The AU already had suspended Guinea's membership after Camara seized power. France's foreign minister said his country is suspending military cooperation with its former colony.

Eyewitnesses told New York-based Human Rights Watch that security forces stripped female protesters and raped them in the streets. The rights group, citing eyewitness reports, said soldiers also stabbed protesters Monday with knives and bayonets.

Hardly anyone had heard of Camara, an army captain in his 40s, until his men broke down the glass doors of the state TV station Dec. 23. He announced that the constitution had been dissolved and that the country was under the rule of a military junta.

Many began to question his tactics when he authorized raids on the homes of well-known members of the dead president's inner circle. Camara claimed the raids were intended to recoup money and property stolen from the state, but many complained of heavy-handed tactics.

The military junta also put top government officials on TV, where they detailed their roles in a lucrative international cocaine trade in Guinea. Guinea and other West African countries in recent years emerged as key transshipment points for cocaine bound from South America to Europe.

Camara's arrests of corrupt officials won him admiration, but he has been criticized for his love of the spotlight and his insistence on broadcasting rambling, multi-hour tirades. Camara generally sleeps all day only to emerge at night, and has a waiting room adorned with 6-foot (3-meter) -tall portraits of himself.

Since winning independence half a century ago from France, Guinea has been pillaged by its ruling elite. Its 10 million people are among the world's poorest, even though its soil has diamonds, gold, iron and half the world's reserves of the raw material used to make aluminum.

CONAKRY, Guinea — Guinea's government said Tuesday it would investigate why troops opened fire on protesters at a pro-democracy rally. A human rights group said 157 people were killed and more t...
CONAKRY, Guinea — Guinea's government said Tuesday it would investigate why troops opened fire on protesters at a pro-democracy rally. A human rights group said 157 people were killed and more t...
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maybe they watch the US army do the same at Abu Ghraib in Iraq on CNN...

the only difference is that in guinea those illegals raped woman .

in Abu Ghraib prison the US army raped men too.

this begs the question ... whose the most degenerate of the two ?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 09/30/2009

difficult to criticize other countries behavior when the first power in the world does the same

Abu Ghraib in iraq,
a few weeks ago wild parties in Afghanistan
practicing waterboarding and torture
prison camps in gitmo.

no really an example of good behavior for others...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 09/30/2009
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If it is difficult for you, make an effort.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 09/30/2009

well you should maybe stop this imperialist attitude. ie do what i say not what i do.

does not give a lot of credibility to the words if the actions do not follow.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 09/30/2009
- Watain I'm a Fan of Watain 14 fans permalink
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Chicago lookalike.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 09/29/2009
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Those Military pigs should be shot.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 09/29/2009
- Peacein09 I'm a Fan of Peacein09 13 fans permalink
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Rape is becoming a military tactic. I fear even our own military, rather than showing that soldiers can be civilized even during wartime, has encouraged similar savage behavior. Look at Afghanistan. Look at the accusations against Blackwater and KBR. Only one US soldier has been arrested and convicted of this crime. I don't know whether that is a good or bad sign of our own behavior toward women and children. We need to make sure our military recommits itself to the standard of behavior shown by our soldiers during World War II. And the UN must step in and make the mass rape of women and girls during any conflict reason to be charged with war crimes at the Hague.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 09/29/2009
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Becoming? It always was. Intercourse between armies passing through and population always including this. To be fair, sometimes it was voluntary.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 09/30/2009
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My family and I lived in Guinea for almost 2 years, we left Guinea about 2 1/2 years ago. The last year we were in Guinea there was quite a bit of violence and unrest but what happened yesterday makes all that look like a walk in the park. My heart goes out to the people of Guinea, who are some of the most amazing, vibrant and kind people I've ever had the honor of knowing. They certainly deserve so much more.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 09/29/2009
- lainey I'm a Fan of lainey 44 fans permalink

My heart goes out to all of those that suffered so terribly and still do so. May education of peace, respect and decency be taught throughout the world so we can engage in meaningful dialogue that promotes justice and new ways of addressing outstanding issues in every part of the world. It takes all of us--look at the forever meaningless battle between left and right in this country--to truly want to try different things to bring about different results. "Be the change...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 09/29/2009
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"Even I, as head of state in this very tense situation, cannot claim to be able to control those elements in the military"

As head of state, the only way to reduce barbarism is to jail and perhaps execute these rebel soliders (juveniles to be exact) as an example to others.

Parts of Africa is so deeply embedded in corruption and violence, that schools need to start teaching youngsters on what is human rights and respect; there needs to be social campaigns, songs, lectures, etc. to educate the older population on respect, human rights and unity; and then, there needs to be a government (perferrably of women representatives) to encourage change and cultivate a better society and perhaps reward for exceptional citizenship. It would take years, but a better society would develop.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 09/29/2009

Link to some of the attrocities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT-XIuglsAE

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 09/29/2009
- max08 I'm a Fan of max08 48 fans permalink

“presidential guard troops opened fire on 50,000 people at the main football stadium.” Barbaric. Although a much smaller group of people than what Israel did to imprisoned Gazan civilians last December.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 09/29/2009

What infuriates me most about this is that it gives thickheaded racists such pleasure. They imagine that evidence of human cruelty is evidence of racial inferiority.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 09/29/2009

Well?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 09/29/2009
- Choicelady I'm a Fan of Choicelady 65 fans permalink

One should talk to our white troops in Vietnam and the British before us in their colonies who raped with impunity. It is a crime with no color limitations but IS the mark of utter disregard for basic humanity. It is not an essential part of war. It is a likely element of any situation where discipline and decency are allowed to be eroded. I always found it fascinating that at My Lai, it was Black soldiers who shot themselves in the foot to avoid slaughtering innocent people. It was the white commander who gave the illegal and disgusting order to butcher them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 09/29/2009
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 163 fans permalink
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Then there are two columnists for this site sticking up for a convicted child r.ap.ist, and one of them claims to be an international women's rights activist. No wonder this kind of thing continues around the world.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 09/29/2009

For once (and probably only once), I agree with you.

So when I read another article here from some "artiste" that supports a child rapist by dismissing rape as an insignificant crime, I'll remember this article. And I'll ermember how rape is often used as a tool of war crushing dissent, and as a power grab.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 09/29/2009
- armadillo I'm a Fan of armadillo 32 fans permalink
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Wonders never cease. You said something rational.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 09/29/2009
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Holy Cow...I actually agree with something you posted.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 09/29/2009
- Godweiser I'm a Fan of Godweiser 220 fans permalink
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Ah, the Obiang regime. Bush's good buddies.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 09/29/2009
- Godweiser I'm a Fan of Godweiser 220 fans permalink
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Oops, wrong country. I was thinking of Equatorial Guinea, which is also a hellhole.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 09/29/2009
- foxfury I'm a Fan of foxfury 15 fans permalink
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T.I.A.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 09/29/2009
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T.I.A.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 09/29/2009
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