Richard Cantor: Moody's Exec Denies Claims Of Inflated Ratings

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MARCY GORDON | 09/30/09 09:23 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — A key House lawmaker wants to make credit rating agencies – widely criticized for failing to give investors adequate warning of the risks in subprime mortgage securities that triggered the financial crisis – collectively liable for inaccuracies.

Pennsylvania Democrat Paul Kanjorski's new draft bill includes a plan meant to address what critics contend is the crux of the current system's problem: Companies that issue securities – as opposed to investors – pay the agencies for ratings of those securities.

Industry executives and Republicans immediately slammed the idea, warning it would cause a flurry of costly lawsuits and reduce competition in an industry already dominated by Moody's Investors Service, Standard & Poor's and Fitch Ratings.

Kanjorski, chairman of a House Financial Services subcommittee, contends that establishing collective liability could spur the powerful rating agencies "to police one another and release reliable, high-quality ratings."

Moody's, Standard & Poor's and Fitch Ratings account for around 95 percent of the ratings market.

Raymond McDaniel, chairman and CEO of Moody's Corp., said the company supported enhanced oversight of the industry. But imposing collective liability could increase the number of meritless lawsuits over unhappiness with ratings and reduce competition, he told the subcommittee at a hearing Wednesday.

Committee Republicans also chafed at proposed changes in liability. Rep. Spencer Bachus of Alabama said they "could discourage new entrants into this marketplace and further entrench the dominant rating agencies."

Kanjorski said his proposal was "the start of a process." His draft also would allow investors to take legal action against rating agencies that "knowingly or recklessly" fail to review significant information in developing ratings. It includes Obama administration proposals to tighten government oversight of the rating industry, as part of the effort to overhaul the nation's financial rules.

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Congress is escalating its scrutiny of the Wall Street rating industry as well as closely examining possible legislative changes to reshape the business.

At another House hearing, two former Moody's employees detailed allegations of misconduct at the big ratings firm as lawmakers took aim at an industry they condemned as rife with conflicts of interest and needing reform.

Seeking accountability for the role of the ratings industry in the financial crisis, members of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee questioned a high-level Moody's executive, who denied the former employees' claims.

The rating agencies had to downgrade thousands of the securities last year as home-loan delinquencies soared and the value of those investments plummeted. The downgrades contributed to hundreds of billions in losses and writedowns at big banks and investment firms.

The agencies are crucial financial gatekeepers, issuing ratings on the creditworthiness of public companies and securities. Their grades can be key factors in determining a company's ability to raise or borrow money, and at what cost securities will be purchased by banks, mutual funds, state pension funds or local governments.

Moody's Chief Credit Officer Richard Cantor acknowledged that the firm misjudged the extent of the subprime mortgage disaster, but said it has voluntarily made improvements to its operations and transparency over the past year.

Appearing at the hearing next to the two former Moody's insiders, Cantor said the allegations of inflated ratings and conflicts of interest at the firm leveled by ex-analyst Eric Kolchinsky are groundless. Kolchinsky was a managing director who oversaw ratings of complex investments backed by mortgage securities.

Moody's reviewed the complaints by Kolchinsky, who was suspended from his job in early September, and found them to be "unsupported," Cantor testified. He said Kolchinsky has refused to cooperate with Moody's inquiry into the matter.

Kolchinsky, who has a law degree, told lawmakers he believed Moody's violated securities laws by issuing credit ratings the firm knew to be inaccurate. "They still went forward and issued the rating," he said.

Scott McCleskey, who was a senior vice president for compliance at Moody's until he left a year ago, wrote a letter to the Securities and Exchange Commission in March alleging a "lack of meaningful surveillance of municipal securities, contrary to statements by Moody's to the public and to Congress."

McCleskey said he became aware that New York-based Moody's did "virtually no surveillance" on public finance securities, the debt issued by states, counties, towns and school districts.

At one point last year, he and others were told in a meeting that they were forbidden to mention the issue in any e-mails or other written form, McCleskey said.

Oversight Committee Chairman Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y., noted that the law firm Moody's hired to investigate Kolchinsky's allegations was given only verbal instructions and issued no written report. "I think that they're really hiding something in there," he said after the hearing.

SEC spokesman John Nester said the agency "has established an examination program for credit rating agencies ... that includes reviews of disclosures, policies and procedures regarding municipal securities ratings."

"We are focusing carefully on the tips and complaints we receive and following up, where appropriate, with examinations targeting suspected problems," he said.

In the cases of both Kolchinsky and McCleskey, the SEC "followed up on the complaints almost immediately and took the appropriate action," Nester said Wednesday.

Although he was responsible for compliance, McCleskey said he was excluded from meetings with SEC examiners – who met only with staff from Moody's legal department and outside attorneys. Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, found that "shocking."

The SEC recently proposed rules designed to stem conflicts of interest and provide more transparency for credit rating agencies. One of the SEC's proposals would bar companies from "shopping" for favorable ratings of their securities, by requiring companies to disclose whether they had received preliminary ratings from other agencies.

WASHINGTON — A key House lawmaker wants to make credit rating agencies – widely criticized for failing to give investors adequate warning of the risks in subprime mortgage securities that ...
WASHINGTON — A key House lawmaker wants to make credit rating agencies – widely criticized for failing to give investors adequate warning of the risks in subprime mortgage securities that ...
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- joeyfoto I'm a Fan of joeyfoto 57 fans permalink
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How can credit-rating agencies rate, as AAA, financial instruments that turn out to be junk, without legal liability? If that is the case, ratings by these agencies are worth nothing and must be considered, going forward, to be a waste of money.

Before we talk about more law, let's see aggressive enforcement of existing laws. Much of what went on is criminal behavior, by any rational standard. It's time to see if unjust, abusive and manipulative behavior is criminal behavior by existing legal standards. Then, if is unjust but not currently illegal, we will know where to amend the law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 10/04/2009

Where is the change, Obama? Where is the REFORM?

Job loss equates to home loss No jobs, no recovery. Why so many people out of work even with the stimulus spending? Why are more jobs still being shipped overseas? There is no such thing as a jobless recovery; that is n3ocon jargon.

good articles... http://www.iamned.com

meanwhile, the stock market is surging and everyone is too busy to counting their money to show any initiative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 10/01/2009

What did you expect this Cantor stooge to say? I think there is a smoking gun out there that can prove credit agencies took bribes for favorable ratings or short sellers paid the agencies to issue negative ratings changes on company debt which was detrimental to its share price. Debt downgrades caused companies like Lehman to go bankrupt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 10/01/2009
- menlopian I'm a Fan of menlopian 5 fans permalink

It's amazing to me this practice has existed as long as it has. Spitzer went after the investment banks in 2000 for the conflicts of interests between research and banking; the result was huge fines for all of the major banks and a significant increase in the regulation. That the rating agencies are paid by the issuer is an obvious parallel that has been overlooked for some time- it's huge because the pension funds, etc., would have not been able to invest in this crap by charter if it were not for the inflated ratings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 10/01/2009
- x004Ronin I'm a Fan of x004Ronin 36 fans permalink

Well put.
If I offer to pay my professors directly for evaluating my work, I'd be kicked out of medical school.
Why are banks that are worth billions of dollars held to a lower ethical standard than me?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 10/01/2009
- Aneesia I'm a Fan of Aneesia 6 fans permalink

Lets make these agencies responsible retroactively, their actions caused shareholders hundreds of billions of dollars in losses, they were in collusion with the rest of the financial industries, and showed a total disregard for the average person.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 10/01/2009
- robbep I'm a Fan of robbep 23 fans permalink

yep, I was wondering if the role the credit agencies played in this was going to be mentioned. What they did was truly criminal and maybe some of them will go to jail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 10/01/2009
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This is good.

It's about time someone made those partly responsible, and maybe mostly responsible, pay for their actions or inactions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 10/01/2009
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If the big concern is "meritless lawsuits" than have a board that determines if fraud occurred. If it did, investors can then sue for damages. This will work because if a rating agency commits fraud, it's a single act that impacts a large number of investors and only one determination of fault is necessary. This is different than medical malpractice where a doctor's act only directly impacts the patient and each case must be individually investigated and prosecuted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 AM on 10/01/2009
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Let's make these guys liable
. . and give all the l.ying wall street brokers and bankers a bonus and let them keep their jobs.
Another case of goldman sachs et al blowing smoke up our collective arse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 10/01/2009
- BigBagel I'm a Fan of BigBagel 30 fans permalink
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Collective liability? So if another rating agency screws up my rating agency is liable? You think that's fair?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 10/01/2009
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birds of a frikken' feather. . . you think that one of the three dominant rating agencies is honest?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 10/01/2009
- DMSmith I'm a Fan of DMSmith 17 fans permalink

As far as objections and wariness from the industry...the only kinds of reform that will actually change enough to improve the situation are the kinds of reform that the industry WILL object to. Loudly and wildly.

Their objections are proof that we're moving in the right direction. I say, make them squeal!

THEY have proven they must be tightly controlled. They have also proved that they are capable of making a profit with whatever rules are put in place. They're good at it. As long as it's reasonable, that's good.

We WILL end up with a win-win ONLY if they object enough to squeal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 10/01/2009
- Imabachi I'm a Fan of Imabachi 5 fans permalink

By their past behaviors they've proven themselves undoubtedly totally irresponsible, feckless and childlike, the lot of 'em, and so proven that they need strict supervision and/or jailtime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 10/01/2009
- bjammin I'm a Fan of bjammin 26 fans permalink

foxes. henhouse.

inmates. asylum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 10/01/2009
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Republican congressman. intern boarding house

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 10/01/2009

We need more Taibbi and Roubini ..they are the ones who speak on behalf of REAL Americans; not Beck, Hannity and Palin

hat tip to; http://www.iamned.com

The f0x news 1diot box is ruining America

Also Rachael Maddow needs to get over her Buchanan HS crush! Get a room you two!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 09/30/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 179 fans permalink
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Yeah right....what a joke our entire system has become...hey blame it on Roman Polanski, that's the ticket, yeah it was all Roman's fault not the Rating Agencies..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 09/30/2009
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"Yet S&P, which controls 40 percent of the credit-rating market, routinely gave the swaps AAA ratings. Internal S&P and Moody documents reveal that the companies knew their rating systems were broken but their continued business depended on rating these swaps. One Moody’s memo says that, ideally, investors would come to Moody’s based on “ratings quality” and “service.” But they were actually looking for a AAA rating. And if Moody’s couldn’t deliver, the investor would go to S&P or Fitch."

http://washingtonindependent.com/14220/ratings-agencies-accused-of-rampant-ratings-fraud

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 09/30/2009

Anyone who trusts Moody's ratings after this massive collapse is a complete fool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 09/30/2009
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Heck, I would include any type of non-government-insured investments in that category. . .NO regulations have been passed and things are going back to the way they were. . .get ready to bite your pillow again. . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 10/01/2009
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