Progressives Push Pelosi On Public Option

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First Posted: 10- 1-09 05:03 PM   |   Updated: 10- 1-09 05:33 PM

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Members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus met with House Democratic leaders Thursday afternoon to reiterate their commitment to a strong public option tied to Medicare reimbursement rates.

In her weekly press briefing Thursday morning, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said she still personally supports the "robust" option but did not commit to its inclusion in the final bill. "We don't intend to move forward without a public option in our bill," Pelosi said. "What form that will take, I don't know."

The progressive caucus has been whipping its members to find out how committed the bloc is to oppose any bill without a public option tied to Medicare reimbursement rates. CPC leaders delivered the tally, which co-chair Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) described as "significant," to leadership at the meeting. Co-chair Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) said "the great majority of our caucus" stands behind a public plan that would reimburse at a rate 5 percent above Medicare, rather than a public option that must negotiate with insurers on its own. "We're not on negotiated rates," Woolsey said.

Progressives said they believe their position is pretty clear. "We're just reaffirming what we say over and over again," Grijalva said. "We plan on Medicare plus five. There's a great deal of caucus support for it. They asked us to do this count, and we provided it."

The discussion didn't end there, however. "No decision's been made," said Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), a CPC member himself and chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee, who had to bargain with conservative Blue Dog Democrats on his committee for a weaker public option with negotiated rates. Woolsey said she hopes to see a draft of the final House bill coalesce next week, but Progressive Reps. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) and Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.), the latter of whom co-chairs the leadership steering committee, said no dates are certain. "They're not at that point," Waters said.

In the meantime, some members are looking at a proposal from Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) for state-run public plans. Given that the federal health reforms on the table wouldn't take effect until 2013, "I've just been saying that I think we ought to be doing some pilots in that three-year period in order to see what best practices can be developed," Clyburn said, claiming that he's heard "a lot of receptivity" among Congressional Democrats.

Progressives told the Huffington Post they were somewhat skeptical of Clyburn's proposal -- and a similar one offered by Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.) -- but many said they'd reserve judgment until they saw more details. "People are going to try to ferret out how it could work," DeLauro said. Single-payer crusader Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) said he'd consider supporting any amendment that strengthens the ability of states to create a single-payer system, but he was unsure whether or not state-run public options would do so.

Clyburn said he has not asked the White House to opine on a state-run public option proposal. "That's not my job," he said.

Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) said she expects President Obama to join Pelosi in pushing for cost reduction. "I feel confident that the White House will weigh in on a bill that makes health care affordable for the middle class," she said. "That's the Speaker's litmus test, I think that'll be his litmus test, and he will weigh in."


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Members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus met with House Democratic leaders Thursday afternoon to reiterate their commitment to a strong public option tied to Medicare reimbursement rates. In ...
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- Scriobhaim I'm a Fan of Scriobhaim 8 fans permalink

I want to hear Barack Obama answer this Nine-Hundred-Billion-Dollar Question: Mr. President, we all heard you adamantly deny to Chris Wallace that the health care fine is a tax. In that case, if the only Constitutional authority the federal government has for extracting money from citizens is taxation and you insist this fine is not taxation, then, 1) what recourse can you possibly have, under the Constitution, if people refuse to pay this fine-which-is-not-a-tax, and 2) who precisely is going to be collecting these fines-which-are-not-a-tax, since presumably this is outside the purview of the Internal Revenue Service?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 AM on 10/03/2009
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STUDIES SHOW ---- 95% of illness cause by average diet being 50% fats

Raised a family of five and for 30 years had no medical expenses, and in that time gave lectures to hundreds. And everyone who decided to eat a low fats diet, from then on had no medical expenses.

So, should not my advise at least be given a try? For surely light always forces darkness to give way.

So it’s not that people don't see the light, but that the light is forcing their darkness to give way and they cannot tolerate it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 10/02/2009
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Well, that is a great plan to stay healthy, but eventually everyone gets sick. What then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 10/02/2009
- LCLA I'm a Fan of LCLA 23 fans permalink
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You've repeated essentially the same post several times.
It's abusive and wearing out your welcome.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 10/03/2009
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Given that the federal health reforms on the table wouldn't take effect until 2013,

You are condeming about 126,000 Americans to preventable Deaths and several 10's of thousands to live in poverty.

Yes you people have indeed done a fine job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 10/02/2009
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STUDIES SHOW ---- 95% of illness cause by average diet being 50% fats

To those of my slow and careful thinking laboring class, the above is common horse-sense.

But to those among the intelligent middleclass, to them it makes no sense.

Problem is, unless their 30% middleclass organizes together with my 50% laboring class, by a rich ruling class we shall both forever be enslaved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 10/02/2009
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There are thousands of lifestyle centers all over the world that cure people by nothing more than lowering the fats calories in their diet to 10%. Two big ones are,

Weimar Institute, Colfax, California
Yuchi Pines Institute, Seale, Alabama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 10/02/2009
- evil goat I'm a Fan of evil goat 28 fans permalink
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Exactly what studies are you referring to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 10/02/2009
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Contact above two Institutes, lots of free information.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 10/02/2009
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Gawd i hope SOMEONE in Congress has a spine and is willing to stand up for what's best for the citizens of this nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 10/02/2009
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STUDIES SHOW ---- 95% of illness cause by average diet being 50% fats

Best money makers in America for the rich: (1) Processed food industry. (2) Medical industry.

And so, a deep dark secret is the fact that without refined processed foods, our medical industry would go bankrupt. Two big corruptions equal one grand economy destroyed.

So people who make refined and oily foods, they get rich fatten us up for an operation. And then butcher medicine gets even richer doing all those millions of operations.

And so what capitalist politician, is going to harm such a capitalist perfection?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 10/02/2009

Pelosi is a wimp. She'll back down as will Reid and Obama. I guess you really have to carry a gun to be taken seriously by these people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 10/02/2009

Pelosi works for the international banking elite. Period. She likes war, open borders, abortion, vaccines, GMO food ,Codex Alimentarius, financial meltdown, Federal Reserve. Military I ndustrial Complex, double speak etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 10/02/2009
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Yes, I'm sure Pelosi likes all of those things. Sheez. Vaccines?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 10/02/2009
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I'm thankful that pelosi has taken a stand on this issue where other Dems have been weak-kneed. If public option fails, then I'll say you are right. We'll just have to see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 10/02/2009
- dwmulenex I'm a Fan of dwmulenex 5 fans permalink

Medicare plus five is ok if we fix the rural/urban differential in medicare reimbursements that makes medicare less available in many rural areas, and which keeps rural hospitals near financial ruin. It's hard to know whether medical costs from doctor/nurse/tech salaries to hospitals and equipment vary as much as medicare payments. The problem is that lifting rural payments five percent--a new floor, if you will,--may be a budget buster. But watch for the compromise bill to do just that, without due regard for the overall increase. And expect urban areas to see their reimbursements go up as well. When the Congress is ready to roll, it will always spend to ensure passage of a bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 10/02/2009

Now that Obama is done " sacrificing" as Michelle puts it and pitched his try for Chicago Olympics to make money for his friends he should pay back the progressives,too. He should just pass whatever they want and then Pelosi can write it. Now that bills dont need to be read first before they are passed why even bother writing them first?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 10/02/2009
- Buddy McCue I'm a Fan of Buddy McCue 137 fans permalink
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No one is suggesting but you, of course.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 10/02/2009
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 229 fans permalink

You know that Rushpubllicans rarely if ever write their own bills? Actually, they just let the highest donating lobbyiest write it for them, then pass it without reading it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 10/02/2009
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STUDIES SHOW ---- 95% of illness cause by average diet being 50% fats

HEALTH OPTION ---- Bill 101

(1) Healthcare paid by taxes shall be given to the poor, and to all with a blood test showing healthy levels of fats in their diet.

(2) Those with a blood test showing high levels of fats, they shall pay the medical expenses required to repair the damage caused by eating such an unhealthy food.

(3) Unhealthy food, food that damages the mind or body of people, shall be taxed sufficient to repay the government for the damage it causes to our national economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 10/02/2009
- Arrech I'm a Fan of Arrech 78 fans permalink
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You are going to end up with a million pound of enemies :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 10/02/2009
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Life is short, who cares?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 10/02/2009
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You can email Congresswoman Pelosi at this email address:

mail.house.gov@mail.house.gov

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 10/02/2009

I hope the Speaker insists on clarity concerning WHAT constitutes a PUBLIC OPTION.

It's not PUBLIC if it does not include all the public.
If it only includes some, who are pre-determined by congress, which is authorizing itself to determine what kind of coverage a given family can receive - that's NOT an option.
Why should Americans not have the right to the same privileged choices in health care that congress grants to itself?

And while we're on the subject, why is no one asking congress why it did not pass the VA budget upon which Veteran's health care is reliant, yet congress saw fit to pass the budget that concerned their own salaries / coverage, but NOT capable of passing on time a budget FOR OUR VETERANS?
Where is Sen. Reid? Where is his leadership? Where is Speaker Pelosi on this? Why are our veterans shoved off to another late budget concerning THEIR health care?

If president Obama is the president of all the people, how can health care legislation be passed that is only for SOME of us and not ALL of us? Why should congress be granted special price negotiations that the American people are DENIED? Why should congress be granted 20+ health care choices / options that THE PUBLIC is denied?

WHO does CONGRESS REPRESENT?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 10/02/2009
- ibsteve2u I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u 150 fans permalink
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Your last question is the question that leads to the heart of the problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 10/02/2009
- rinpochet I'm a Fan of rinpochet 49 fans permalink

Congress represents those that put the dollars in their pockets. Our elections are a meaningless sham. Even they are bought and paid for by corporate America. We are only in the process for the APPEARANCE of democracy.

These reps represent $$$ and nothing else. Stephen Colbert put it very well. If you have $1 you will get that amount of representation. If you have $6 million you will get an equal amount of representation. It is ONLY about money. We have an auction, not a democracy.

A government by, for, and of the highest bidder!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 10/02/2009
- maxfax I'm a Fan of maxfax 19 fans permalink

Pelosi and Reid no public option, new Congress. Simple isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 10/02/2009
- BamBam2012 I'm a Fan of BamBam2012 9 fans permalink
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Yep--they don't deliver on their public option, then we'll deliver on ours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 AM on 10/02/2009
- rain33 I'm a Fan of rain33 25 fans permalink
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yup!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 AM on 10/02/2009
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Problem is, our darling rich ruling class has a monopoly on the use of force and violence.

So how about a new option, lets call it the REVOLT OPTION.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 10/02/2009
- Arrech I'm a Fan of Arrech 78 fans permalink
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Sounds good to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 10/02/2009
- bluguy8 I'm a Fan of bluguy8 25 fans permalink

WE COULD USE A NEW CONGRESS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 10/02/2009

If everyone on the left, or just a majority, would push for the politicians to be on the public option, then I would actively campaign FOR the public option.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 10/02/2009
- Buddy McCue I'm a Fan of Buddy McCue 137 fans permalink
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Out of spite?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 AM on 10/02/2009

PLEASE BRING IT ON BOARD BEFORE 2013....

PLEASE GET MOVING ON THIS ISSUE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 10/02/2009
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