Krugman: The Modern Conservative Movement "Has The Emotional Maturity Of A Bratty 13-Year-Old"

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Posted: 10- 5-09 08:13 AM

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So what did we learn from this moment? For one thing, we learned that the modern conservative movement, which dominates the modern Republican Party, has the emotional maturity of a bratty 13-year-old.

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So what did we learn from this moment? For one thing, we learned that the modern conservative movement, which dominates the modern Republican Party, has the emotional maturity of a bratty 13-year-old.
So what did we learn from this moment? For one thing, we learned that the modern conservative movement, which dominates the modern Republican Party, has the emotional maturity of a bratty 13-year-old.
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- nicole473 I'm a Fan of nicole473 262 fans permalink
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""It’s an ugly_ picture. But it’s the truth. And it’s a truth anyone trying to find solutions to America’s real problems has to understand."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 10/08/2009
- nicole473 I'm a Fan of nicole473 262 fans permalink
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Thank you, Krugman. Completely agree.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 10/08/2009

Apparently the Nobel committee does not screen recipients for their own emotional maturity -- Krugman's name-calling debases the Nobel prize and should be embarrassing to other recipients.

Maybe Krugman and Gore can return their prizes at the same time.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 10/06/2009
- Johnagain I'm a Fan of Johnagain 45 fans permalink
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So says the Fox News watching wingn.ut. That bunch of dummies on the Nobel committee don't know nuthin.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 10/07/2009
- Philclock I'm a Fan of Philclock 36 fans permalink
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Jimmie Carter, then Yassir Arafat, then Al Gore, then Paul Krugmann....yeah, I can see it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 10/07/2009
- nicole473 I'm a Fan of nicole473 262 fans permalink
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You left out Rabin and Peres, who each received 1/3 of the prize in 1994 along with ARAFAT.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1994/

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 10/08/2009
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They have the emotional maturity of a 13-year old with his own bb gun.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 10/06/2009

If only it was no more harmful than a BB gun. BB guns couldn't have killed all the people that the useless war in Iraq has.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 10/06/2009

or the equally useless war in Afghanistan.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 10/06/2009
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Krugman: The Modern Conservative Movement "Has The Emotional Maturity Of A Bratty 13-Year-Old"

As opposed to the 4-yr-old tantrums of the Democrats.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 10/06/2009
- Buddy McCue I'm a Fan of Buddy McCue 134 fans permalink
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That's telling 'em!

Keep up the playground taunts. "I know you are, but what am I?" never gets old.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 10/06/2009
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Well, I have to fit in with the rest of the mindless blather...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 10/06/2009
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AKA The "PeeWee Herman Defense" it's all they have left.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 10/06/2009
- Sardonica I'm a Fan of Sardonica 93 fans permalink
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So....what you're saying is, you're rubber and we're glue, right?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 10/06/2009

As an independent, I would be bemused by the likes of these people on both sides of the political spectrum. One group who cheers for the insignificant and the other group who draws simple generalizations and resorts to name calling. I would be bemused if it were not so virulent and damaging. You sir, have not improved the situation AND you have insulted millions of innocent 13 year olds everywhere. For the love of Al Gore, leave the kids out of it!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 10/05/2009
- Burkelbile I'm a Fan of Burkelbile 46 fans permalink
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'Party of Bush' got righteously creamed in 2006 and 2008.

Just remember to treat this traitorous obstructive partisan "Party of NO"
the exact same way at the polls next year.

Get your credit cards out, register to vote, and
Bomayé the elephant in 2010

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 10/05/2009
- Kamenskiy I'm a Fan of Kamenskiy 44 fans permalink
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This is vitally important. In a low-turnout election, Repubs are likely to gain seats simply because the Beck-watchers will all turn out in order to avoid being sent to reeducation camps, while Dems are going to be more complacent (especially if their representative was not overly enthusiastic on issues such as health care reform).

But if we can pull off another gain in 2010, the Republican Party is likely to collapse. The sooner the better; that means we can get a reasonable, new second party up and running.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 10/05/2009
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I cannot agree with you enough; we really need to concentrate early on getting out the vote, and it's going to be very hard with some of the Blue Dogs basically acting like Republicans, dragging their heels and obeying the demands of their corporate paymasters. The more they fail to act on things like health care and the things the president promised to address, the worse it's going to be. Especially because it's a midterm election, there needs to be a clear difference between the parties, and while I can still see it, it's mostly because I'm paying a lot more attention than most people have time for. If people have to work too hard to see why their vote matters, they're not going to bother. We have to remember that we are competing with the many important things that people are already splitting their precious time between. If they don't see the point, it won't be good for us at the polls.

What we really need, however, is instant runoff voting (IRV); people could be energized to get out and vote for the candidate of their choice again, without worrying that they were wasting their vote, because they would be able to cast their votes in order of preference. People often speak of voting while holding their noses or of voting for the lesser of two evils... imagine how many more people would vote if they could actually vote for candidates that truly inspired them!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 AM on 10/06/2009
- lldem1 I'm a Fan of lldem1 3 fans permalink

here he is, labeling an adverse group--isn't that what 13 year old brats do?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 10/05/2009
- Dosadi I'm a Fan of Dosadi 121 fans permalink
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13 year old brats know nothing about adverse groups. Talking about something you know nothing about is a republican tactic.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 10/05/2009
- Dosadi I'm a Fan of Dosadi 121 fans permalink
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Sedition is a term of law which refers to overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.
Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 10/05/2009
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Dosdai, I think this is a valuable comparison, and I thank you for pointing it out... people (even in the media) often refer to treason when they are really talking about sedition and seditious libel. I hope you forward this to the major news outlets so that their anchors and journalists can update their vocabularies.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 AM on 10/06/2009
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Sedition is also a crime under the Smith Act:

"knowingly or willfully advocate, abet, advise or teach the duty, necessity, desirability or propriety of overthrowing the Government of the United States or of any State by force or viol.ence, or for anyone to organize any association which teaches, advises or encourages such an overthrow, or for anyone to become a member of or to affiliate with any such association."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Act

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 10/06/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 128 fans permalink
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just why is it Krugman seems to have more common sense when talking about things that are not under the realm of economics?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 10/05/2009
- shaggyct I'm a Fan of shaggyct 646 fans permalink
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Absolutely outstanding. Fanned and faved!!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 10/05/2009
- shaggyct I'm a Fan of shaggyct 646 fans permalink
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Oops. That was for somebody else :-)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 10/05/2009
- ilse I'm a Fan of ilse 51 fans permalink

Krugman is 100% correct in his article. Michelle Bachmann is the perfect example of a bratty 13 year old. The republicans have contributed absolutely nothing this year because they've been too busy throwing tantrums. Soon we'll being hearing republicans say that famous word we hear from 13 year olds......­.....Whate­ver! Whatever! Whatever! Whatever!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 10/05/2009
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I'm sure some 13-year-olds would have been insulted by such a statement. I certainly would have been.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 10/06/2009
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I'll give you this... even as a 13-year old, I would have been mightily insulted to have been compared to Michelle Bachmann.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 AM on 10/06/2009
- Kamenskiy I'm a Fan of Kamenskiy 44 fans permalink
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The best we can hope for now is that the Republican Party and the current conservative movement will disintegrate and give way to some kind of new party. They are really beyond reform.

I just hope we do not end up with a one-party system as a result of their implosion.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 10/05/2009
- AtheistUS I'm a Fan of AtheistUS 63 fans permalink
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That is exactly my hope: remaining non-crazy conservatives exit GOP and unite with conservative democrats for new non-extremist conservative party.

And we progressive/liberal democrats will have a party that truly represents us.

Two parties again.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 10/06/2009
- nicole473 I'm a Fan of nicole473 262 fans permalink
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That would be optimal!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 10/08/2009
- jmml I'm a Fan of jmml permalink

Why did huffington post change the name of the article?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 10/05/2009
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 491 fans permalink
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IMHO, one of Krugman's most important editorials to date. When one of the two major parties no longer cares about governance, our body politic suffers. Our discourse declines -- just as it has. We can no longer get the best thinking because we can't get an honest debate. It's a disservice to all of us. A party that does not care about governance doesn't deserve to govern.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 10/05/2009
- Cye I'm a Fan of Cye 22 fans permalink
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Exactly.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 10/06/2009
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