NRA Targets Bloomberg, New Yorkers In Commercial For Bob McDonnell (VIDEO)

The NRA is taking aim at Mayor Bloomberg, New Yorkers, and apparently the mafia (who one would think would be some of the gun rights group's biggest supporters) in new television ads airing in Virginia.

In the commercial supporting GOP gubernatorial candidate Bob McDonnell, an actor whose "mob" accent sounds closer to Hugh Grant in Mickey Blue Eyes (if you haven't seen the film, it's about as good as you imagine) than a local wiseguy, explains to Virginia voters that it would be in their best interest not to vote for McDonnell if they "know what's good" for them.

Bloomberg underwrote a commercial in April that attacked McDonnell and pushed for the closure of the state's "gun show loophole."

The attack ad is particularly timely as Bloomberg announced earlier today the results of an undercover sting operation targeting gun shows across the country.

The anti-gun show loophole ad:

Comments

[OdinsEye]

More bad news for MAIG:

In U.S., Record-Low Support for Stricter Gun Laws

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123596/In-U.S.-Record-Low-Support-Stricter-Gun-Laws.aspx?CSTS=tagrss

[OdinsEye]

Hmm... and in the ongoing saga of Bloombergs MIAG group, it seems that MIAG erroneously lists 30 some people of mayors of locales for which they are not. And more than 60 mayors have removed their names from MIAGs list and many more are trying to get their names removed. It seems that Bloomberg's MIAG is falsifying their rolls by blantant fraud, by including any mayor they have had contact with whether they formally join or not, and as one mayor put it, they "swindle" people into joining and then make it difficult to renounce membership.

[mackbolan]

so if the government ceases to exist...since all my natural rights flow from government...if the govenment ceases to exist then so will i......that is what you are saying right.....

[mackbolan]

noaxe397 I'm a Fan of noaxe397 I'm a fan of this user 91 fans permalink

Can you describe one incident (let's say since 1993) from your experience or from reputable news sources where a citizen lawfully allowed to KABA has been denied by government that right...........
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thats a trick question....the people of d.c were certainly deprived of the right or do they not count as citizens under the bill of rights......

[KarateKid]

The same supporters of the NRA are the ones who are trying to stop Iran from getting nuclear _weapons. That reeks of hypocrisy, doesn't it?

After all, nuclear _weapons don't _kill people, people _kill people, right?

[prayforroy]

Meanwhile:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ji_m8YJlPgzZql8nKtV43aJPDpugD9B6OKB80

LEBANON, Pa. — A soccer mom who gained national attention when she openly carried a loaded gun to her 5-year-old daughter's game was shot dead Wednesday along with her husband in what appeared to be a murder-suicide, police said.

Meleanie Hain and Scott Hain were pronounced dead Wednesday night at their home in Lebanon, a small city about 80 miles west of Philadelphia.

[KarateKid]

What goes around, comes around. I feel sorry for their kids, having rotten parents like that. Hopefully, they'll get past this and have happy, productive lives.

[MochasMom]

I knew Meleanie. She loved her children more than anything.

[BitterCling]

While tragic, I'm not sure exactly what you intend to prove with this anecdotal "evidence" other than to illustrate how liberals are easily swayed by logical fallacies based on emotional appeals and that many liberals (rhymes with Daniel San) gleefully dance in the blood of victims as long as it advances their statist agenda.

[teetee5225]

The NRA by definition is a terrorist organizations and should be abolished. Their threats against senators and congressmen prove their motives. They respect no one who does not agree with their agenda. When attempting to restore the condors in California and Arizona the NRA was asked to to assist by telling their members and hunters not to use lead bullets in the recovery area, instead use the copper bullets which are not harmful to this bird species. The NRA refused to comply because it would result in higher cost to their members and hunters. Enough said!

[OdinsEye]

"The NRA by definition is a terrorist organizations "

Oh puhleeze! They are no such thing. Save the histrionics.

[FHTB]

teetee just called it as it is...too bad if you don't like it!

[Balzac]

Good point about the NRA's refusal to accommodate the naturalists. The NRA is most definitely not a "terrorist" organization. The NRA should not be abolished. Maybe I'll join the NRA, one day. But I don't want to be such a gun enthusiast here Brooklyn New York.

Rifles are not the most emblematic guns of New York City anyway. Notice how there's no big noisy group called the National Pistol Association. That's because the barrel and the butt of a rifle make it long enough for two people to be conversational while admiring it.

A pistol is too short for two people to admire, and as the Lynard Skynard song goes "Saturday night special... ain't good for nothing but putting a man six feet in hole". It's far easier to "barrel sweep" people casually with a pistol than with a rifle.

If there were a convention "National Pistol Association" Convention, and everybody was trying to show off their pistols to each other, would it be a big surprise if the whole place went up in a spasm of paranoid reflexes? That's probably why it can't exist as an institution. The gun's barrels aren't long enough for two people to admire at the same time. One person is always slightly paranoid. Also, you don't see the marines tossing pistols ceremonially like they do with rifles.

[FHTB]

The mob, as pointed out here, would be the first to love the NRA...so what does THAT tell you???

[Berettasskeeter]

Okay, I'll bite. Please cite the textbook definition of a terrorist organization, and explain how the NRA fits into that definition.
Semper fi

[JohnRafail]

I feel bad for the kid who lost his sister. The VT killer bought his guns legally though, not at one of those eeeeeeeeeeevil gun shows. So why the big push to go after the "gun show loophole"?


The same reason the goons at the Brady Campaign go after "assualt weapons". FBI reports in any given year, 70+% of all firearm crimes are perpetrated with a handgun. Dept. of Justice studies (during the Clinto admin. mind you) show that so called "assualt weapons" are used something like 2-3% of all firearm crimes. Wouldn't it make more sense to go after handguns with the same vigor or more as the BC demands for "assualt weapons"? James Brady was shot with a handgun for crying out loud. So why the push against "evil assualt weapons"?

They know a handgun ban is impossible, so go after something they have a shot at. Take out assualt weapons, then handguns, then high powered "sniper" rifles (any hunting rifle with a scope), then shotguns, and voila, socialst gun ban paradise realizado.

I love thinking about Paul Helmke & Co. crying everyday that they can't get their way even with politically like minded super majorities.

[LCLA]

Yes, we "goons" want a safer country with a lower murder rate. What were we thinking?
We could wind up like one of those awful European socialist countries or Japan where gun deaths are so rare compared to the USA?

[Berettasskeeter]

Why isn't Bloomberg fighting for tough, no-holds-barred, sentencing for criminals using firearms? Because that would be insensitive! Its so much easier to after law-abiding citizens, knowing that many will give up their guns just BECAUSE they are law-abiding. Criminals are protected from this, as the Supreme Court has ruled that they don't need to register their firearms under the 5th Amendment.
Well, their are a lot of us who won't turn ours in!
Semper fi

[JohnRafail]

No, pretty much everyone wants a safer country and lower murder rate, including gun owners, not just the Brady Campaign.

The "goons" advocate disarmament. Tell me, how would a complete ban on all firearms make Chicago any safer, where kids are dying in the streets after being assualted with railroad ties by roaming, violent mobs? How would a gun prohibition have saved Derrion Albert?

Now if you can explain how Chicago, which bans handgun ownership completely, was 2008's Murder Capital of the US according to the FBI, I may have to rethink my position.

[FHTB]

Most of the world where guns are not touted around like candy as in this country find America's bizarre and nutty obsession with guns just plain insane...why shouldn't they when they see people shot up at a drop of a hat, and people claiming it is their god-given right to pack heat???

[noaxe397]

If lawful gun ownership makes the crime rate go down, then why does NYC have such a low crime rate with some of the strictest and most restricitve gun laws?

[FHTB]

Yes, indeed.

[noaxe397]

I also notice that no one from the "cause and effect" crowd wants to answer the question because it is not anecdotal, does not appeal to emotion and has been a proven fact for for a long time.

[HisXLNC]

On that same token, why does Chicago have such a high crime rate with some of the strictest and most restrictive gun laws?

Maybe it's not the guns, but the people.

[noaxe397]

If people are responsible for the crime rate (as well as other local factors, like police management) then shouldn't the decision on gun restrictions be left up to those people? Anti-government types bemoan the one-size-fits-all legislation that comes from DC. Why not leave it up to the locals on what they wish to do?



Also, I've been reading about how the removal of concealed carry restrictions in Florida has made that state just such a nice safe, polite place to live.
When I look at Florida violent crime statistics, regardless of size of city, it's among some of the highest rates in the nation. What gives? Did the criminals not get the message that the citizenry is armed? Any ideas there?

[BitterCling]

I’m tired of playing this reactionary game where a statist control proponent makes an emotional appeal based on misdirection or anecdotal “evidence” and we spend time refuting their ridiculous claims with actual facts and logic.

Let me make this clear:

First, empirical evidence clearly demonstrates that gun control laws have no positive effect on violent crime and in many cases actually result in an increase in crime rates.

Second, even if gun control laws did reduce violent crime, the measure of safety gained would not be worth the measure of liberty and personal responsibility lost. The purpose of gun control has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with control.

Third, the Second Amendment to the Constitution is not a privilege granted to some certain people by the government, it is an affirmation of natural rights that exist outside of governmental control, just like the rights to free speech, to worship freely, to be free from unreasonable search and seizure and so on. Government did not grant the right and therefore cannot revoke it.

[noaxe397]

natural rights that exist outside of governmental control

This is the justification racists, anti-semites, white supremacists, anti Catholics, and all other assorted misfits make to justify their demand for rights without responsibility, which is the new form of welfare in this country.

There is no such thing as rights without government. Rights is what you need to protect you from government. If you are outside of government control, then you have no need for rights or if you don't recognize government then your rights afforded by the government cannot exist.

You cannot support country and be against government.

And no right is absolute; they ALL have limitations.

Try reading the Constitution and put down the Turner Diaries and None Dare Call it Treason. And for heaven's sake turn off your AM radio.

[Berettasskeeter]

Actually, you might consider reading the Constitution. The People have Rights, and the Government has only Powers, delegated by the People. They MAY NOT infringe those Rights, though we've gotten sloppy and greedy, demanding that government take care of us. And in so doing we've given up our Rights to the government. NO MORE!
Semper fi

[OdinsEye]

"There is no such thing as rights without government."

Absoluetly incorrect.

[legaleagle 45]

"There is no such thing as rights without government."

Incorrect. Your comment demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of natural right theory. The first thing to understand is what the term "natural right" encompasses. Essentially, it includes all things that we would do freely in the absence of government. A subset of these "natural rights" are "unalienable natural rights". These include things which are inseperable to our human condition and can not be voluntarily surrendered when entering into a social compact with others in order to form a government. These are primarily instinctual or biological in nature. It may seem odd to say that you have an unalienable right to breathe, but that is the definitional basis of "unalienable natural rights", so it makes little sense to argue that point, it is the predicate for understanding natural right theory. Self defense is such a natural right because it is instinctual... it is part of the "fight or flight" reponse which we will do regardless of any law which may forbid same. This is an important part of the "life right" mentioned in the Declaration of Independence... "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness". A deer will flee from an attack of a predator and no law which prohibits such a response would or could be obeyed... as such a deer has a "natural right to flee".

[BitterCling]

There is so much FAIL in that post, I’m not even sure where to start. Honestly, I don’t really feel inclined to debunk each the problems with your post, you obviously need to do some reading on the social contract theory of government.

I’d like to know, though how exactly you expect a right that is granted BY government to protect you FROM government. See, if the government has any rights at all, then the people have none.

[fallingsky]

mob accent ,,,,,, but it would be wrong to say he sounds like a mafia guy

[JazzyJim]

Just to be clear - 31 students. The kid had an arsenal of weapons.

[greatblue]

And shouldn't have been allowed to buy any of them, because of a previous psychiatric commitment.

[OdinsEye]

Yep. If the judge had checked the correct box, he would have not been able to purchase those firearms.

[joyce2]

His file not being on file is another loophole.I just knew the NRA would come out against this even though the majority think it is a good Idea People talk about Acorn .Just take a look at the NRA and how much money they spend on getting people elected that think like them.They are not worried about the 2nd amendment but about guns being sold. I come from a hunting for food family but handguns were never allowed in our home.

[noaxe397]

Liberals need to start joining the NRA and voting to change the organization to return it to its roots as an organization for hunters and sport shooters.

[LCLA]

Bad idea. It would not work and would only backfire by giving them bigger numbers and more money.

[Berettasskeeter]

The NRA was never an organization for hunters and sport shooters! Its core has always been marksmanship and firearms training. All other aspects merely fill niche requirements of its membership. Please do some research. The NRA has its history right in its website, which you obviously have not read.
Semper fi

[Berettasskeeter]

The NRA does not sell guns, so your argument is silly. The NRA was founded on the premise that military/police marksmenship was lacking. It has grown to what it is today because it's membership wants it that way.
By the way, why would handguns not be allowed in a home with firearms? Something not quite right there.
Semper fi

[OdinsEye]

The NRA actually supported the law which should have stopped him from getting firearms. The judge failed to check the correct box.

[djcrsn]

Omar is misinformed about how the Vtech shooter got his gun--CHo passed the background check because his psych info was not on file

[JazzyJim]

Not really misinformed - there wasn't just "one" gun. Would you like to go back and check again...

[OdinsEye]

There were two guns. And had the judge checked the correct box on the form, he would have been entered into the background check system as disqualified and would not have been able to purchse those firearms.

[greatblue]

And he could have gotten it even more easily at a gun show -- what's your point? If you listen to the video, he said the question was, whose sister is next. I really hope not yours, or mine.