Obama Receives McChrystal's Troop Request

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JENNIFER LOVEN | 10/ 7/09 09:46 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — The Afghanistan war reached its once-unthinkable eighth anniversary Wednesday as President Barack Obama, seeking a revamped strategy for the increasingly unpopular conflict, focused more closely with his war council on neighboring Pakistan's role in the fight against al-Qaida.

The White House also revealed that Obama has in hand – and has for nearly a week – the troop request prepared by the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal. It is said to include a range of options, from adding as few as 10,000 additional combat troops to – McChrystal's strong preference – as many as 40,000.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Obama asked for McChrystal's request last Thursday, before he flew to Copenhagen where he lobbied for Chicago's bid to host the Olympics and met with the general on the sidelines. The numbers could become the focus of concentrated White House attention as soon as Friday, Gibbs said.

When former President George W. Bush launched the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan less than a month after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the country's Taliban government was providing safe haven for Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida terrorists. Eight years later, the Taliban regime is no more and al-Qaida is scattered and weakened. But the Afghan government is considered corrupt and ineffective, Taliban insurgents hoping to retake control are gaining strength and terrorists continue to plan attacks.

This uncertain progress has come at a cost of nearly 800 U.S. lives.

With this and Americans' dwindling patience in mind, Obama is engaged in a methodical review of how to overhaul the war.

Wednesday's nearly three-hour meeting in the Situation Room between Obama and more than a dozen of his top advisers on the war was the third of five currently scheduled. The next is Friday, concentrating on Afghanistan – though it could also include McChrystal's report. The final discussion is slated for next week, though aides have said more could come.

Gibbs said Obama's decision is still weeks away.

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Wednesday's focus on Pakistan, the suspected hiding place of bin Laden and other al-Qaida terrorists as well as Taliban leaders, could provide a hint into the president's leanings.

Obama and some of his key aides are increasingly pointing to recent successes against al-Qaida through targeted missile strikes and raids in Pakistan but also in Somalia and elsewhere. Obama said Tuesday that al-Qaida has "lost operational capacity" as a result.

Also, serious doubts about the Afghan government that only deepened with the questionable Aug. 20 presidential election make a true counterinsurgency mission there difficult. Intense poverty and other troubles in the "graveyard of empires" make it an even more complicated pursuit.

In Pakistan, though, the government has shown new willingness to battle extremists, with most believed to be operating from the largely ungoverned terrain along the border with Afghanistan. But these operations, as well as the strikes by unmanned U.S. aircraft, continue to stoke fiery controversy throughout the country – causing problems for the already weak U.S.-backed civilian government.

Further, the vast majority of the U.S. aid to Pakistan is believed to be diverted from its intended purpose of battling militants. A bill awaiting Obama's signature would triple U.S. aid to Pakistan to $1.5 billion a year while attaching conditions aimed at stopping that diversion. Those protections, however, have prompted fresh complaints in Pakistan about Washington meddling – including a rejection by the country's powerful military of links between aid and increased monitoring.

All this makes the U.S.-Pakistan relationship fraught, and asking for additional cooperation extraordinarily delicate. Regardless, U.S. officials believe they can neither win in Afghanistan nor succeed more broadly against al-Qaida without it.

Wednesday's White House meeting began with intelligence and political assessments from key players. The ensuing discussion focused on possible ways to gain additional help from Pakistan, said a senior administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to reveal details. That includes efforts on diplomatic and civilian fronts, as well as military.

A senior government official, also talking on condition of anonymity because of the private nature of the talks, said the discussion continued a genuine debate among advisers in which Obama remains undecided.

McChrystal's recommended approach calls for additional troops in Afghanistan for a counterinsurgency campaign to defeat the Taliban, build up the central government and deny al-Qaida safe haven. McChrystal, whose plan is somewhat reminiscent of Bush's Iraq troop "surge" in 2008, says extra troops – preferably at the higher end of his option range – are crucial to turn around a war that will probably be won or lost over the next 12 months.

On roughly the opposite end of the spectrum, an alternative favored most prominently by Vice President Joe Biden would keep the American force in Afghanistan at around the 68,000 already authorized, including the 21,000 more troops Obama ordered earlier this year, but increase the use of surgical strikes with Predator drones and special forces.

Shrinking the number of troops in Afghanistan and turning the effort into a narrow counterterror campaign is not on the table, and neither is drastically ballooning the footprint.

In weighing whether to follow McChrystal or Biden or land somewhere in between, Obama faces a stern test and difficult politics.

Many lawmakers from his own Democratic Party, aware of rising anti-war sentiment in their ranks and the war protests that have dotted Washington this week, do not want to see additional U.S. troops sent to Afghanistan. According to a new Associated Press-GfK poll, public support for the war has dropped to 40 percent from 44 percent in July.

Republicans, meanwhile, are urging Obama to heed the military commanders' calls soon or risk failure.

In giving McChrystal's request to Obama, Defense Secretary Robert Gates bypassed the commander's direct bosses in the military chain of command who would ordinarily have a chance to add their own comments first.

Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell denied the unorthodox move provides evidence of a divide between the uniformed military and its civilian bosses over management of the war. He said Gates and Obama wanted to prevent a leak to the news media, as McChrystal's underlying war assessment was last month.

And though Gibbs had said previously that Obama didn't want to see the request until he had decided strategy, aides said the president decided it had simply become absurd to wait to read it.

Attending the White House meeting Wednesday was a now-familiar cast of characters including Biden; Gates; Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton; Afghanistan/Pakistan special envoy Richard Holbrooke; Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Gen. David Petraeus, commander of the region including Iraq and Afghanistan, and McChrystal by videoconference.

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Associated Press writers Anne Gearan and Pamela Hess contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — The Afghanistan war reached its once-unthinkable eighth anniversary Wednesday as President Barack Obama, seeking a revamped strategy for the increasingly unpopular conflict, focused...
WASHINGTON — The Afghanistan war reached its once-unthinkable eighth anniversary Wednesday as President Barack Obama, seeking a revamped strategy for the increasingly unpopular conflict, focused...
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- regellner I'm a Fan of regellner 375 fans permalink
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Troop requests alone will not resolve the issue, only increase the casualties on our side.

Following is a commentary on a possible solution for Afghanistan:

http://www.examiner.com/x-11326-Liberal-Examiner~y2009m10d7-Difficult-decisions-abound-for-President-Obama-on-eighth-anniversary-of-Afghanistan-War

Raymond Gellner – National Liberal Examiner at Examiner.com
http://www.examiner.com/x-11326-Liberal-Examiner
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 10/08/2009

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/07/obama-receives-mcchrystal_n_313015.htmlThis feels like Vietnam all over again. On one hand the enemy is in Pakistan along with Bin Laden and we are country building not a good thing when our people are telling us they the Afghans could give a s---t. So why, It's another mistake we can control and protect a broad and ourselves here with smarter awareness and technology. Dennis Kucinich speaks facts and sound advice out now. Every General will do his job to the death nothing to prove give him a medal and have this president make a stand in the right direction.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 10/08/2009
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Don't worry, General. Your "trigger-pullers" are in the pipeline.

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/first-person-shooter/

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 10/08/2009
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Pat Tillman sends his regards, General.

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/illegal-as-hell/

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 10/08/2009
- Balzac I'm a Fan of Balzac 115 fans permalink
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Obama can grant his troop request to relieve pressure but McChrystal must accomodate Obama's preference for how the force is used. Strategic retreat is not defeat.

Grab glory! We cannot be defeated! Zawahiri is going to taste the bitterness of defeat.

Also, I read a bad rumor about McChrystal giving the Silver Star to Patrick Tillman posthumously. The article implies he was part of the cover-up. Well, it's not necessarily sinister to honor Tillman with a Silver Star.

The Silver Star is the third highest award and is awarded for "Gallantry in action against an enemy of the United States". Whatever the circumstances of his death, he did meet the criteria for a medal of that much honor at least. When did McChrystal find out it wasn't a foreign militant that killed Tillman?

Probably somewhat sooner than the public, but I don't know if he's on the record about that. All I can say is that you don't assume the worst because it's a very difficult situation. Maybe a presidential aide should ask Kevin Tillman and Mary Tillman what they think of McChrystal's service in Afghanistan.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 AM on 10/08/2009
- Balzac I'm a Fan of Balzac 115 fans permalink
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"McChrystal, whose plan is somewhat reminiscent of Bush's Iraq troop "surge" in 2008, says extra troops – preferably at the higher end of his option range – are crucial to turn around a war that will probably be won or lost over the next 12 months."

Ok, McChrystal is just doing what many generals would do in this case. He wants more troops to take pressure off of everyone there who might be feeling beleaguered as the American public and government ponders what we're doing. Interesting how he is paraphrased by the author of this article having said "the war will probably be won or lost in the next 12 months".

Interesting because how exactly is a war lost? When the war ends, everybody wins, just so long as the retreat is conducted properly. What makes it a retreat? It's all of the walking backwards that our military has to do to extricate strategically and orderly without increasing exposure or escalating violence during the retreat.

But it's a strategic retreat because we're only going just over the horizon and we're going to keep Kabul secure. And... We're not going to give up on Ayman al Zawahiri. I wan't to hear what he has to say for himself when he's not "releasing video" but rather while he's put on trial.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 AM on 10/08/2009
- Balzac I'm a Fan of Balzac 115 fans permalink
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Look at that, I had forgotten that I'm not the President. That's what can happen when you get baked and really let your ego float out into moment. I was fantasizing about how easily I'd orchestrate a nice "exit" from Afghanistan while leaving crucial "personnel" in place to secure Kabul and prepare the next phase of the hunt for Zawahiri.

I don't speak Arabic, but that guy releases a lot of tapes and if he's really on video bragging about bombing Tanzania, Kenya, the USA and then using Afghanistan as a human shield, there's no way he can be allowed to brag and make up a story of "US defeat". He's worse than Rush Limbaugh, and he celebrated when Chicago didn't get the Olympics.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 AM on 10/08/2009
- wwoody I'm a Fan of wwoody 15 fans permalink
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Don't continue the Bush wars, bring our troop home.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 10/08/2009
- PJay1 I'm a Fan of PJay1 44 fans permalink
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100,000 troops to fight less than 100 Al Queda???

Makes perfect sense.....­..........­.......to war profiteers!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 AM on 10/08/2009
- ray01 I'm a Fan of ray01 22 fans permalink

100,000 troops to fight less than 100 Al Queda is the smokescreen.

100,00 troops to secure the pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Pakistan is more the point.

The enormous oil & natural gas reserves of this Central Asian region & the profitable distribution mostly to India & China is the goal.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 10/08/2009
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President Obama it would be wise to bring the troops home. We don't need to finish a War that was started under lies and guise of the Bush Admin. A solider died today in Afghanistan he was from Tucson. RIP Solider he was so young,

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 AM on 10/08/2009
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We have failed to win the hearts and minds of the Afghanis. The drones kill in a cowardly manner and aren't any more accurate than the intelligence that drives them. In isolation the pilots are not interacting with the environment, and despite the PR, their work looks suspiciously like playing video games. The people hate us for these attacks, and remember the tragic mistakes, not the hollow "victories" over an insurgent Taliban.

Even worse, Washington has tolerated Karzai for far too long, and the fiasco of the "election" could only be trumped in Florida or Ohio. The U.S. has no credibility regarding democracy, freedom or fair elections. We are a plutocracy on behalf of corporations, with the largest incarcerated population in the western world. If you are looking for an enemy, I suggest some exist closer to home.

The military-i­ndustrial-­communicat­ions nexus runs our lives, consuming $542 billion for the pentagon and another $166 billion in Iraq and Afghanistan. Combined that is over half the discretionary budget and money we'll never see again. We should withdraw American troops with due care, and turn our attention developing alternative energy sources and mass transit. Our society has run low on finite resources and needs to reexamine what people need, rather than what Madison Avenue believes they want.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 10/08/2009
- bilmardre I'm a Fan of bilmardre 31 fans permalink

"drones kill in a cowardly manner..."

How would you suggest that we honorably kill terrorists?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 10/08/2009
- demfriend I'm a Fan of demfriend 22 fans permalink
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The amount of caualties is getting too high for a war we have no idea what is the mission now. When there are less Taliban and Al Quada actually doing the fighting and it is more the aftghan people thinking we are like the soviets trying to occupy there country are we doing the right thing by staying there? I want what I wanted from Bush Jr I want a withdrawel timetable or date. If we must stay in there and lose more troops then tell us why we have to pay that price.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 10/08/2009
- AliMB I'm a Fan of AliMB 66 fans permalink
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Part I

This is a very interesting article that offers several data points vis-à-vis the current Afghanistan strategy debate. For me the most salient tidbit (ostensibly provided by a WH source) is the confirmation that the President received a supplemental troop request WITH OPTIONS:

"Previously thought to still be at the Pentagon while Obama and his team held their strategy discussions, McChrystal's recommendations are said to include a range of options, from adding as few as 10,000 additional c0mbat troops to as many as 40,000."

There was speculation over whether McChrystal (presumably per the orders of his Chain of Command) would send his request broken-down by risk level i.e. low, medium, and high. This was actually discussed by the NYT a few weeks ago:

"Although General McChrystal included no specific force proposals in his review, officials expect him to send a separate request in the coming weeks. Military strategists, including one who has advised General McChrystal, said he might offer three options. The smallest proposed reinforcement, from 10,000 to 15,000 troops, would be described as the high-risk option. A medium-risk option would involve sending about 25,000 more troops, and a low-risk option would call for sending about 45,000 troops."

...continued below

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 10/08/2009
- AliMB I'm a Fan of AliMB 66 fans permalink
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Part II

Based on several accounts, it seems that President is leaning towards a more 'modest' troop increase i.e. either the high-risk plan or a middle option. In my opinion, even going Goldilocks can be aptly described as a 'half-measure' that is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. Hopefully, our military leadership will convince the President to fully adopt McChyrstal's low-risk, comprehensive COIN approach.

Senator McCain has it right:

"Half measures is what I worry about," he said. Citing the Bush administration's experience in Iraq, he added that half measures "lead to failure over time and an erosion of American public support."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/world/asia/07prexy.html?hp

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 10/08/2009
- darthmaul I'm a Fan of darthmaul 17 fans permalink

McCain has it right? The only thing that McCain knows is military force. He's the guy that thinks we should have stayed in Vietnam! I guess you can call sending in 40,000 troops "low-risk" if you don't have a relative fighting in this conflict.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 10/08/2009
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Bravo...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 AM on 10/08/2009
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.....you mean you'd want to have the relative in a low-risk fight rather than a high-risk fight, right?

Sure we know ultimately lowest risk is having them here at home, but if they're going to fight, give them all the chance you can, I say.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 10/08/2009
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After Bush and Rumsfeld purged every honest General who spoke out against the wars it's hard to really trust a General who would leak information to the press.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 10/07/2009
- Hollypop I'm a Fan of Hollypop 3 fans permalink

This whole war on terror thing was Bush's response to 9/11.
I think the world has got the point now... Fly planes into our buildings and we'll get you back and bigtime.
Point made , point taken.
So now what's the point ?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 10/07/2009
- ray01 I'm a Fan of ray01 22 fans permalink

The point is the oil & natural gas pipeline that is being built through Afghanistan. It's about the oil.
It's always been about the oil. 9/11 was an inside job. US/Israel.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 10/07/2009
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