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GOP Leaders Voting Against Defense Bill Because Of Hate Crime Protections

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First Posted: 10- 8-09 02:47 PM   |   Updated: 10- 9-09 02:25 PM

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AP WASHINGTON — Assaulting people because of their sexual orientation would become a federal hate crime in legislation the House is set to vote on Thursday. The bill would significantly expand the hate crimes law enacted in the days after Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination in 1968.

With the expected House passage and eventual approval by the Senate, federal prosecutors will for the first time be able to intervene in cases of violence perpetrated against gays based on their sexual orientation.

Many Republicans, normally stalwart supporters of defense bills, declared they would vote against it because of the addition of what they referred to as "thought crimes" legislation.

"The very idea that we would erode the freedoms for which our soldiers wear the uniform in a bill that is designed to provide resources those soldiers need to get the job done and come home safe is unconscionable," said Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana, a member of the Republican leadership.

Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said the inclusion of the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act in the defense bill was "an abuse of power" by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who was pursuing her social agenda "on the backs" of the troops.

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) also declared his opposition.

GOP opponents were not assuaged by late changes in the bill to strengthen protections for religious speech and association – critics argued that pastors expressing beliefs about homosexuality could be prosecuted if their sermons were connected to later acts of violence against gays.

Supporters countered that prosecutions could occur only when bodily injury is involved, and no minister or protestor could be targeted for expressing opposition to homosexuality.

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Civil rights groups and their Democratic allies have been trying for decades to broaden the reach of hate crimes law. This time it appears they will succeed. The measure is attached to a must-pass $680 billion defense policy bill and President Barack Obama – unlike President George W. Bush – is a strong supporter.

"It's a very exciting day for us here in the Capitol," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., saying hate crimes legislation was on her agenda when she first entered Congress 22 years ago.

She said it's been 11 years since the gay Wyoming college student Matthew Shepard, whose name is attached to the legislation, was murdered.

The late Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., was a longtime advocate of the legislation.
The bill also creates a new federal crime to penalize attacks against U.S. service members on account of their service.

Hate crimes legislation enacted after King's assassination defined hate crimes as those carried out on the basis of race, color, religion or national origin. It also limits the scope of activities that would trigger federal involvement.

The proposed expansion would include crimes based on gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or disability. It eases restrictions on federally protected activities.

Some 45 states have hate crimes statutes, and the bill would not change the current situation where investigations and prosecutions are carried out by state and local officials.

But it would provide federal grants to help with the prosecuting of hate crimes and funds programs to combat hate crimes committed by juveniles.

The federal government can step in after the Justice Department certifies that a state is unwilling or unable to follow through on a purported hate crime.

While Republicans said they would vote against the defense bill because of the hate crimes addition, openly gay Democrat Jared Polis of Colorado said he would vote for it despite his opposition to U.S. military presence in Iraq. The reason hate crimes are so odious, he said, "is that they are not just crimes against individuals, they are crimes against entire communities and create environments of fear in entire communities."

Tom McClusky, vice president of the conservative Family Research Council's legislative arm said the next step likely would be contesting the legislation in court. "The religious protections are pretty flimsy," he said. He contended that Democrats were trying to move their "homosexual agenda" this year because it would prove unpopular with voters next year.

The FBI says there are some 8,000 hate crimes reported around the country in a year. More than half of those are motivated by racial bias. Next most frequent are crimes based on religious bias at around 18 percent and sexual orientation at 16 percent.

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The defense bill is H.R. 2647.

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AP WASHINGTON — Assaulting people because of their sexual orientation would become a federal hate crime in legislation the House is set to vote on Thursday. The bill would significantly expand t...
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So let me get this straight...
They don't want to fund the troops because it would also fund classifying gender related crime as a hate crime?
Mind boggling!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 10/10/2009
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But so, SO typical.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 11/05/2009
- Fred Hood I'm a Fan of Fred Hood 216 fans permalink
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If they let this slip. They lose their base of support. Right wing religious nuts that feel we should live by their rules or be put in jail. This is a big struggle and we must win our country has been ruled by hate for long enough...

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 10/10/2009
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Massive hypocrites. Blatant manipulators of the fearful. Grifters...

http://www.light-to-dark.com/closeted.html

...and frauds.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 10/09/2009

The GOP hates gay people so much that they will deny our troops what they need. The GOP is a walking talking hate crime.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 10/09/2009
- Fred Hood I'm a Fan of Fred Hood 216 fans permalink
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DITTO

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 10/10/2009
- nowarpleez I'm a Fan of nowarpleez 28 fans permalink
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Conservatism is a mental illness.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 10/09/2009
- truthartbeauty I'm a Fan of truthartbeauty 85 fans permalink

ignorance and bigotry......the face of the GOP

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 10/09/2009
- 1dogs2 I'm a Fan of 1dogs2 141 fans permalink

Whaaat??? GOP Senators are voting AGAINST the appropriation that SUPPORTS OUR TROOPS???

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 10/09/2009
- Topsailsman I'm a Fan of Topsailsman 38 fans permalink

Why won't they support the troops?

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 10/09/2009

Because they hate the gays.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 10/09/2009
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'Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said the inclusion of the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act in the defense bill was "an abuse of power" by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who was pursuing her social agenda "on the backs" of the troops.'

Can you believe this guy???

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 10/09/2009
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Does Pogo Still live? Of course! Pogo is immortal.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 10/09/2009
- Arrech I'm a Fan of Arrech 89 fans permalink
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This is great News!
Thank you, Nancy!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 10/09/2009
- dans5843 I'm a Fan of dans5843 71 fans permalink

Heck why would they support gays when the deprive thier own wives and girlfriends, maturnity benefits?

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 10/09/2009
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cminca

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One of the important parts of the legislation is that it allows for the Federal govt. to take over when and if a state agency is not pursuing the case. Just the same as the Federal govt. stepping in if a southern state was not pursuing crime against blacks

cminca I was not aware that these hate crime bills are actually an instrument for the federal govt to come in and supercede local and state authorities if the federal govt determines the crime to be a hate crime.

Do hate crimes consist of white against black and now any crime against someone who is gay?

Are there any other hate crimes that involve other races such as blacks hating whites or pacific islanders hating hispanics or any of the multitide of races in the U.S.

Can anyone else verify cminca's statement. If cminca's statement is true who in the federal govt makes the decision to ride in and save the day. AG Holder, Head of the FBI.

Anyone know?

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 10/09/2009
- bighat I'm a Fan of bighat 81 fans permalink
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Could gang members be charged with hate crimes. I have heard that some are killed or beaten for wearing the wrong color on crossing the street into another gang's terriroty. Is it possible for people of the same race to be charged with a hate crime. Surely if you beat someone or kill them for wearing the wrong colors you must hate them.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 10/09/2009
- cdnbystander I'm a Fan of cdnbystander 30 fans permalink
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Urban terrorism might be a more appropriate charge, or charge them also with violating the victims civil rights.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 10/09/2009
- Socrmom I'm a Fan of Socrmom 20 fans permalink

The GOP is a hate crime.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 10/09/2009
- cbat I'm a Fan of cbat 104 fans permalink
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GOP: We hate gays, blacks, mexicans and women(especially the smart ones).

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 10/09/2009
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Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) has never been able to lie without raising his eye brows, unfortunately you wont find footage of him speaking the truth because his childish brows always give him away.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 10/09/2009
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Good observation. I will have to look for that tell the next time I see him on TV. Thanks

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 10/09/2009
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