Dems Target Women For Health Care Overhaul

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JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS | 10/ 9/09 07:35 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — The White House and top Democrats, intensifying their push to build support for their party's health overhaul proposals, are increasingly targeting women, a politically crucial group with strong opinions on health care that polls suggest has yet to be sold on the changes.

In speeches, news conferences and even an all-female talk-in on the Senate floor Thursday, Democrats have been pounding away daily on the message that their ideas – along the lines of what President Barack Obama has called for – are especially good for women. The campaign reflects a concern among Democrats that women, who typically make most of a family's health care decisions, are not yet on board with the sweeping changes Obama and his congressional allies are advocating.

That's despite the fact that women have historically been more concerned about health care, and more likely to support changes, than men.

A recent Associated Press-GfK poll found that women, like the public overall, are generally split on the health care legislation. Although younger women – those under 55 who many opinion experts consider crucial in any health care debate – slightly favor the proposals, nearly one-third of them are on the fence, saying they are neither supportive nor opposed.

"What we're seeing is that the administration and the Congress still has to make the case to women," said pollster Mark Mellman, who has advised Democrats and liberal groups on public attitudes on the health care overhaul. "The volume has to be turned up on the communication, and the communication has to be directed to a large degree toward this group."

Democrats are scrambling to do just that.

Michelle Obama started the push last month with a White House speech in which the first lady, a former hospital executive, told her all-female audience that women are "disproportionately affected by this issue because of the roles that we play in families," and exhorted them to step up and defend "my husband's plan."

"No longer can we sit by and watch the debate take on a life of its own," she said.

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A group of female House Democrats led by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., were at it again Tuesday at a rally near the steps of the Capitol where Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., led a call-and-response with female attendees of, "Do women need real health reform? Do we want it? Are we willing to fight for it?"

The crowd shouted an enthusiastic "Yes!" to each, but women's activists acknowledge that conservative criticism of Democrats' health care ideas – particularly the charges that it could lead to less choices for patients or reduced benefits for senior citizens – has had an impact on women, and proponents need to do more to persuade them the proposals are in their interest.

"That drumbeat of attacks on health care reform played on women's fears. ... They're a critical target," said Marcia Greenberger of the National Women's Law Center. "It is very important to do a major public education effort so that women do understand what really is being proposed."

Mellman said there's a "somewhat higher standard" for women than for the public overall in evaluating the overhaul proposals because they are so often the health care decision-makers in households.

"Women are much more plugged into the system, and I think they to a certain extent are reserving judgment," he said.

Proponents argue that because women earn less than men, have higher health care costs and are far less likely to be able to get insurance through an employer, the measures would disproportionately help them.

The congressional bills would require all Americans to get health insurance, either through an employer, a government program or on their own. Tax credits would be offered for many of those who buy their own coverage but failure to comply could result in a fine. Insurance companies could no longer deny coverage because of a pre-existing condition, and out-of-pocket costs would be capped.

In recent days, Democrats have argued there would be negative consequences for women under GOP health proposals and have highlighted positions they characterize as sexist. A case in point: Arizona Republican Sen. Jon Kyl publicly asserted that he doesn't need maternity care, so shouldn't be subjected to higher costs for a plan that provides such coverage. The Democratic Party held a conference call this week decrying the GOP's attitudes toward women in the health care debate, with Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., calling Kyl's comment "shocking" and saying Republicans' views were "extreme and backward."

Foes of the plan are also honing in on women to sow doubts about the legislation.

"Women are the primary audience for anyone who's talking about this issue because we do make the health care decisions for the family," said Amy Menefee of Patients First, a conservative group opposed to the health overhaul. "They want to know how this is going to affect their jobs, their husbands' jobs, their Medicare, their children."

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Associated Press Polling Director Trevor Tompson contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — The White House and top Democrats, intensifying their push to build support for their party's health overhaul proposals, are increasingly targeting women, a politically crucial grou...
WASHINGTON — The White House and top Democrats, intensifying their push to build support for their party's health overhaul proposals, are increasingly targeting women, a politically crucial grou...
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I was a single mom for many years and so are most of my friends and our biggest concern is that, while we desperately want health insurance reform, we do not feel comfortable with a plan that forces us to purchase something we cannot afford. Our budgets aee already stretched to the limit and without single payer health care, we are all still screwed. As others have said below, we are not on board with any plan that herds us into the arms of insurance companies like sheep to slaughter. Give us something we can reasonably support!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 AM on 10/17/2009
- texanna I'm a Fan of texanna 32 fans permalink

Women are skeptical of the Dems' efforts not because of the Teabaggers, but because of the Dems! Women aren't stupid. They can see that Baucus' bill is not going to be a good thing for them, even if that bill offers help in securing insurance. They can see that what Baucus' bill does is force them to buy insurance to fatten the coffers of those who have profited from health care denial for decades. Women can see that any bill that doesn't include a viable, real public heatlh insurance option is no help whatsoever. So, if Dems want the support of women, they're going to have to do more than a PR campaign. They're going to have to gear up and do what the majority of the country - men and women - want; and that is real health care reform NOT health insurance reform.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 10/10/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 96 fans permalink
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You know what dems, when you start making is SAFE FOR WOMEN TO EXECUTE THEIR RIGHT TO CHOOSE IN THIS VILE COUNTRY, then ask for our support.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 AM on 10/10/2009
- Amock I'm a Fan of Amock 36 fans permalink
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Why assault Dems for the actions of the FEW who resort to acts of violence. It is the Republicans who foster these ideals in their flock and even condone such actions. It is the LAW that these A-holes should find themselves under and it is the LAW that should judge them for they are criminals NOT Freedom Fighters!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 10/10/2009
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I never needed "courting" about Real Health Insurance Reform. They had me at hello and I'm beyond their magic age of 55.

I'll settle for a Strong Public Option for now, but I really wanted a Single Payer system.

BTW, why don't I get polled?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 10/09/2009
- Jaywalkker I'm a Fan of Jaywalkker 51 fans permalink
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About time, how many market research and clinical science studies have shown over and over again that woman make the bulk of health care decisions or are a driving force behind health care in any given household?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 10/09/2009
- getsit I'm a Fan of getsit 22 fans permalink

I realize that, if I didn't have insurance through my work, I would not be able to buy a private plan. I've had 3 c sections and I'm overweight. BUT I AM HEALTHY!

Women should be upset, because we are more likely to be denied coverage because of "pre-existing conditions" and charged more if we "qualify".

We add to the list acne, asthma, domestic violence, childbirth, women's health "issues", birth control, abortion, breast or uterine cysts, and on, and on, and on.

Women should be outraged and already have taken to the streets. Our children aren't covered either.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 10/09/2009
- justins79 I'm a Fan of justins79 5 fans permalink

What a fantastic idea. Imagine news coverage of thousands of mothers taking to the streets to protest in support of health care reform and a public option. The only person who would dare speak out against them would be GOP Senator Jon Kyl and he's irrelevant anyway. What an awesome thought.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 10/09/2009
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I miss Jack K being in the White House,
the last liberal and honest President to
lead us out of ungodly capitalist darkness.
But "the good dĭe young" and look what happened to him
down in Texas when he started to bring our troops home.

So who can fault our President,
considering how ungodly is the government he is trying to reform.

Fault the system,
our excessive wealth capitalist system and
then be progressives may see some real progress.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 10/09/2009
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THE Public option:
Coverage for EVERYONE who applies
Structured premium payments of not more than 100 per individual, 300 per family
Deductibles capped at $2000 and based on income (means testing every year like the va)
No mandates forcing people to purchase insurance (a windfall for private carriers)
No triggers (also a windfall to private carriers)
No subsidies to private insurance carriers
No taxes on employer provided benefits
If someone has private insurance and wants the public option, they can drop private with no problem and be covered immediately under public.
No mandates on employers to buy into the public option to cover employees. Has to be free choice.
Everyone with coverage gets treated for new or pre-existing conditions.
Fairly negotiated reimbursement to private pracitce, specialty doctors and hospitals
Fairly negotiated prices for medications, even on name brand stuff which has no generic equivalent.
AND IT HAS TO BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. Within 3 months of the above bill passing, Americans must be able to start buying in and using it.
It must be administered by an autonomous federal agency. Monies paid in must not be co-mingled with any other money, does not go into the general fund so it can be looted.
The ONLY payouts from this fund will be for: payments to practicioners, pharmacies and admin. In 5 years if we see significant overages, those overages will only be used to suplement medicare and fund medical research and maybe scholarships.
See my next post on funding

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 10/09/2009
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All that time you spent posting your above and below comments,
and hardly no one is going to read but the first line. So keep it short

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 10/09/2009
- Bloggerrogr I'm a Fan of Bloggerrogr 166 fans permalink
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Dave;
I've read her posts before. There is a lot of 'meat' on those bones. WinterParkMom has done her research well; we would be wise to read and heed.
Those who do not have the inclination to read further miss out to their peril.

WinterParkMom: Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

FWIW

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 10/09/2009
- Amock I'm a Fan of Amock 36 fans permalink
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I found the comments to the point and verbage appropriate.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 10/10/2009
- MeinNH I'm a Fan of MeinNH 12 fans permalink
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I totally agree with you....where are the legislators who are supposed to be writing this bill. They can't do it but you can....you deserve their seats.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 10/09/2009
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47 million un insured
20 million under insured
Subtract 10 million poor/indigent/mentally ill, etc, who are uninsured and will have to get free care = 37 mill un-insured who can pay.
18.5 million can pay $50/mo = 925,000,000
18.5 mill can pay $100 = $1,850,000,000
20 mill under insured will switch and can pay $100 = 2,000,000,000
That is a grand total of $4,775,000,000
That is FOUR BILLION, SEVEN HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IN PREMIUM PAYMENTS PER MONTH. FIFTY SEVEN BILLION THREE HUNDRED THIRTY MILLION PER YEAR IN PREMIUMS FOR ONE SET OF PEOPLE.
That does'nt count the millions who'll switch from private companies if they can pay $100 or 200 per month and have their entire family covered even with pre-existing conditions. Repeal bush tax cuts asap another 700 billion.
After thinking about it more, institute a 1 penny federal sales tax on EVERY item. I can hear the opponents shouting about making the poor poorer, but my statement is 1 cent on each item NOT on every dollar or hundred dollars. From candy bars to big screen tv's to your house. 1 cent on everything. If your grocery bill was $100. for 53 items, your bill would be $100.53. That's not putting people in the poorhouse especially when we've been dealing with price increases. Also, if you're saving 300-500 per month on insurance, you have that money to spend and put back in the economy, save, or invest

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 10/09/2009
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They sure as shootin won't get my support if the public option is not on the table or if it is watered down with mandates and co-ops and opt out clauses and subsidies to private companies, etc.


See my next posts

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 10/09/2009
- ImissBush I'm a Fan of ImissBush 35 fans permalink
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dems court women?
is that what theyre callin it now

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 10/09/2009
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"sweeping changes Obama and his congressional allies are advocating"

We liberals want sweeping regulations to sweep excessive wealth
out of a capitalist scam that can best described as butćher medicine.
But all we see coming out of our capitalist Congress are changes that
sweep under the rug all the scams resulting from 200 years of greed-freedom.

Greed-freedom scams such as, “Referral fee.”
For your friendly family doctor makes most of his income referring
customers to a specialist, as a universal referral fee gives him
a 40% kickback, a full 40% of all money given to the specialist.
No need for a doctor to expand his training or skills as it would
just reduce profit.

I for 30 years plant seedling pine by hand and retire with a few thousand,
while virtually all doctors retire millionaires and plunder most of it by
referring people to specialists. Now do we really expect the rich
ruling class to change this system without a mass uprising?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 10/09/2009
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I just remembered yesterday another reason to loathe health insurance companies. When a woman is pregnant, the insurance company is notified and they do their internal processing - whatever. When a woman goes to deliver nine months later, she needs to contact her insurance company 48 hours after she's admitted to the hospital. If she doesn't, the insurance company will deny payment on any billing from that stay.

The doctor or hospital is NOT ALLOWED TO DO THIS ON BEHALF OF THE WOMAN!

Regardless if she was in labor for 36 hours; regardless of c-section; regardless of complications. If the woman doesn't call her insurance company to notify them; the insurance company can refuse to pay.

The nine months of prenatal care is apparently not enough notice for the expectant mother and the only reason that I can see this policy being in place is so that the insurance companies can save a dollar every so often. Shameful.

My son is almost six, so I had completely forgotten about this until last night. Reason #987 why EVERYONE in this country is currently under-insured...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 10/09/2009
- SMAckley I'm a Fan of SMAckley 15 fans permalink

That is not true for any company I have heard about. The hospital always notifies of admission. What insurer are you referencing? I'm curious as I have worked in healthcare for 30 years and have not run across the situation you describe for a woman in labor and delivery.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 10/09/2009
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My ex-wife had United Healthcare when my son was born and that was the policy. At least, that's how our doctor instructed us. It was in NJ too, in case the rules vary by state.

My father, who is an OB/GYN, confirmed that they would deny payment, as well as my uncle (also an OB), who had seen people get denied.

Apparently the rules changed in 2007 though, so this may have been much ado about nothing. Sorry if that was incorrect info, but it was my experience...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 10/09/2009
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But most who come in here are liberals, and we want not to talk about the
horrable effects of bad healthcare. As we are progressives who want the
progress that can only come from addressing the solution to achieve good healthcare.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 10/09/2009
- Bloggerrogr I'm a Fan of Bloggerrogr 166 fans permalink
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speaking for yourself, Dave?

I'm a librul/progressive. I want to hear the good and the bad. I don't want to hear the bee s though, so if the righties want to peddle that, they can take it elsewhere. And I've been around the block enough times to know the difference.

FWIW

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 10/09/2009
- Amock I'm a Fan of Amock 36 fans permalink
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I want to hear BOTH sides of the story and then make an educated decision based on FACTS not sound bites or fear mongering from either side. I work in HC so I understand the issues from first hand exp.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 10/10/2009
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When are politicians going to target the disabled and chronically ill for Health Care Reform? Frankly, at this point, I don't care if it's a Dem, A Repub, or a Communist, if politicians don't grow a pair and start to consult the people who use health care the most, then no form of reform will be effective for anyone, let alone those of us who use it and need it most

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 10/09/2009
- teron678 I'm a Fan of teron678 135 fans permalink
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Libertarians & Conservatives claim America has the BEST HC in the world .........it's just the cost that's the problem ...... but none are willing to draft a bill to address this very concern ... they rather bicker .....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 10/09/2009
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Meanwhile Obama sent through the most "evil, socialistic" (sarcasm!) piece of Health Care news without hardly a peep with the grants to the NIH, that actually will do some good for the disabled and critically ill

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 10/09/2009
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Problem is, your post is identical to what we get from mass media,
all about the horrors of bad healthcare, all about Obama and his
socialist healthcare, but not a word about the root cause or the solution.

It's called a smoke screen, something that blind's the mind by burning the emotions.

For capitalist Obama is far from socialist, being a protector of excessive
wealth and profit he most certainly will not give us anything the resembles
social program progress.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 10/09/2009
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The root cause? The root cause for ALL of society's problems is human nature. Everything else is just a symptom. In this case, the symptom manifests itself in a society that values money over medicine, and who values looking good over feeling good. The solution? Convince people that cures for cancer and congenital disabilities is more important than Rogaine and Botox and Collagen and liposuction. Convince them that a salad and a walk is better than a McDonalds Super Sized meal and 2 hours of video games and 10 hours of tv a day. Convince them that, yes, it does look silly, but bike helmets and pads ARE necessary. Show them the average life span of a child in a pediatric cancer ward and tell them that, yes, that IS more important than your hair plugs that you want to be covered by "Medicare for all".

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 10/09/2009
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NO -- NO -- NO

Root cause of the problem is not "human nature,"
as that is just the greed resulting from a
natural instinct called self-preservation.

Root cause is a capitalist government designed to give everyone
the unregulated freedom to compete for excessive wealth.

A mass rebelion to overturn the system,
and all would be peace out of self-preservation.

That's what I always say.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 10/09/2009

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