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Russia Resists Hillary Clinton's Pressure, Says Threats Of Iran Sanctions Won't Work

MATTHEW LEE   10/13/09 10:40 PM ET   AP

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MOSCOW — Russia publicly pushed back Tuesday against U.S. efforts to threaten tough new sanctions if Iran fails to prove its nuclear program is peaceful, dealing an apparent setback to President Barack Obama's hopes for Moscow's backing for fresh penalties against Tehran.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Moscow believed such threats were "counterproductive" and that only negotiations should be pursued now. Just last month, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev had said that sanctions are rarely productive but "in some cases they are inevitable," a statement the U.S. hailed as a shift of opinion in Moscow.

Lavrov, at a joint news conference Tuesday with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, said diplomacy "still has chances to succeed."

"At the current stage, all forces should be thrown at supporting the negotiating process," Lavrov said. "Threats, sanctions and threats of pressure in the current situation, we are convinced, would be counterproductive."

Clinton, on her first visit to Moscow as secretary of state, had been hoping for an overt signal from Russia that it will consider new sanctions if Iran refuses to come clean about its nuclear intentions.

Instead, Lavrov's comment exposed a tactical rift between the United States and Russia in which Washington is pushing diplomatic engagement backed by the threat of U.N. sanctions, while Moscow wants to discuss only negotiations.

Russia has balked at sanctions. However, there had been indications that its opposition might be softening after Tehran last month disclosed a previously secret uranium enrichment site near the holy city of Qom. U.S.-Russian relations also improved after Obama dropped Bush administration plans for a missile defense system based for eastern Europe that Russia had fiercely opposed.

Lavrov said Medvedev's statement about sanctions last month meant that penalties would be considered only when all political and diplomatic efforts are exhausted.

Three senior American officials said later that Medvedev had reaffirmed his earlier statement in a private meeting with Clinton at his home outside Moscow.

They denied there was any "daylight" between the U.S. and Russian positions but could not explain Lavrov's "counterproductive" remark. They allowed that the comment had taken them aback but said that Medvedev had not repeated it. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the private diplomatic discussions.

The U.S. believes it is critical to get tangible signs of support from Moscow for at least considering new sanctions because the more united they are, the more likely pressure on Iran is to work.

At the news conference, Clinton said she had not sought Moscow's support for actually imposing sanctions and did not believe it was time to do so. But she also said it was critical to let Iran know what will happen should it continue to rebuff the nuclear demands.

"We have always looked at the potential of sanctions in the event we are not successful and cannot assure ourselves and others that Iran has decided not to pursue nuclear weapons," Clinton said.

Iran has made pledges to take small steps that if fulfilled would serve as confidence-builders. Those include opening up a recently disclosed uranium enrichment plant to U.N. inspectors and sending existing stocks of low enriched uranium to Russia for reprocessing.

Iran insists it has the right to a full domestic nuclear enrichment program and maintains it is only for peaceful purposes, such as energy production. The U.S. and others believe Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons.

Obama – who visited Russia in July – has vowed to "reset" U.S.-Russia relations and Clinton brought a wide range of issues to Moscow for discussion.

Clinton apologized for missing Obama's visit because of a broken elbow, but joked that that "now both my elbow and our relationships are reset and we're moving forward, which I greatly welcome," she said.

Beyond Iran, Lavrov said U.S. and Russia negotiators have made "considerable" progress on reaching agreement on a new strategic arms treaty. The 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START, expires in December and negotiators have been racing to reach agreement on a successor.

The two diplomats also discussed possible cooperation on missile defense following Obama's decision not to proceed with the Bush-administration plans. Russia has welcomed Obama's new approach, but has said it was eager for more detailed information.

Also on the agenda were Afghanistan, nuclear-armed North Korea, NATO expansion, the situation in Georgia after its conflict with Russia last year, human rights and arms control.

Clinton also met with human rights activists and civic leaders some of whom have complained of harassment and abuse.

One person not on Clinton's agenda was Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, generally seen as Russia's most powerful political figure. He was in China to sign a framework agreement for $3.5 billion in energy deals.

Putin's absence from the Russian capital highlighted Moscow's growing recognition of the global clout of its eastern neighbor – and to some even suggested an effort to show the United States it's not the only game in town.

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Associated Press writer Lynn Berry contributed to this report.

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02:33 PM on 10/14/2009
It's interesting that Huffpo doesn't carry the latest response from putin where he categorically rejects any sanction talk about iran. he doesn't feel it's right to scare those poor people. hillary should send that "reset" button back to the factory. It isn't working. giving up something for nothing isn't negotiations. all carrot and no stick isn't negotiations. giving nobel peace prizes for future considerations has never worked in the past ans it isn't going to work now.
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davidwayneosedach
01:25 PM on 10/14/2009
The Russians got what they wanted from us: dropping land based missles. Now they are giving up absolutely nothing in return. This is what Obama calls a new relationship with the USSR.
02:08 PM on 10/14/2009
Do you have any idea of how many land based missiles in Western Europe and the Med. the US has aimed at Russia ? Get real. We agreed to unfund the placement of MORE missiles, and rightly so. The Obama administration should be congratulated for the moral courage it exhibited.
02:24 PM on 10/14/2009
Also, you may want to update your personal list of " bad guys " ..... the USSR no longer exists. Check it out.
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piul05
Are you looking at my ears?! (Mo-om!!!)
05:44 PM on 10/14/2009
LOL!
12:02 PM on 10/14/2009
Well, it's a great thing we've been sucking up to Russia and pushing that reset button. What's it gotten us now?
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PWM
Eisenhower Republican. Liberalism = Liberty
12:36 PM on 10/14/2009
On talking terms with Russia. Would you prefer the old way?
02:56 PM on 10/14/2009
Um, we were talking with Russia before. They were obstinate then too, but we weren't bending over backwards to make them like us. I'm all for it if Obama can get some substantive concessions from them. As of now, we're doing everything to make them happy and they're doing nothing in return.
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CigarGod
What is your process?
11:09 AM on 10/14/2009
A beautiful little video of Iran.
Looks a lot like....America!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLX9ChtWBGo
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Albert Amato
11:51 AM on 10/14/2009
Are you Iranian? What does the landscape possibly have to do with the Mullahs intentions of sponsoring terrorism against American in Afghanistan and Iraq?
We have no beef with the people as many have been jailed trying to get some freedom for their women.
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PWM
Eisenhower Republican. Liberalism = Liberty
01:06 PM on 10/14/2009
Actually, the protests were about the election results not rights for women.
01:16 PM on 10/14/2009
Albert, let's explore some factual context here.

Iran is on record as signing the nuclear (or nucler, if you prefer) nonproliferation treaty and has allowed inspections. Israel has refused to sign the nonproliferation treaty, has an arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons (best guess) about which it has been serially deceptive for nearly half a century and has adamantly refused all inspections.
09:12 AM on 10/14/2009
This is a typical post from an apparent lobbyist of Israel. The Author's rather vapid statement:

"Iran has made pledges to take small steps that if fulfilled would serve as confidence-builders. Those include opening up a recently disclosed uranium enrichment plant to U.N. inspectors and sending existing stocks of low enriched uranium to Russia for reprocessing"

is not a "small step". Low enriched uranium reprocessing to obtain nuke fuel rods is not reprocessing to obtain weapons grade plutonium. Without the low enriched uranium in its possession, Iran can have all the secret centrifuges in the world but it can't make weapons grade enriched uranium. By the way , the author neglects to mention that Israel has weapons grade uranium and probably some nuke weapons but gee that would be violation of his lobbying contract with Israel.
12:39 PM on 10/14/2009
Great comment (1) journalists are making the case for a run-up to another war, downplaying any positive steps the Iranians might be doing in favor of the same old antagonistic lines (2) they not only are violating the ethics of journalism, but they are really becoming agents, tools of the pro-war, pro-occupation pro-Israel lobbies. Ozarks, I hope you continue to analyze these "news" articles!
03:23 AM on 10/14/2009
Why is Russia stabbing the U.S. in the back, again and again.
Russians undermine everything we try to accomplish in the Middle East.
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
04:02 AM on 10/14/2009
Exactly what are we trying to accomplish in the Middle East except acting as Israels puppet? Russia doesn't want another war in the mid-east and knows we are being pushed into one.
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PWM
Eisenhower Republican. Liberalism = Liberty
12:37 PM on 10/14/2009
The US does not rule the world. Other nations have a right, repeat a right, to disagree with us and have their own foreign policy.
12:45 PM on 10/14/2009
Exactly, which is why we need to move on our own, impose our own sanctions, react militarily if necessary, to keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons.
12:04 AM on 10/14/2009
What's the problem with those Russians?
Don't they realize that we are a superpower and that Hillary Clinton is our most senior politician?
Why won't they do what we tell them to?
They must know that Iran is next on the list, don't they want to get in on the action?
03:24 AM on 10/14/2009
Never trust a Russian!
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piul05
Are you looking at my ears?! (Mo-om!!!)
09:41 AM on 10/14/2009
Duxguts was being sarcastic...
08:23 PM on 10/13/2009
Khirad, lets not exaggerate how wonderful things used to be.

"The literacy rate of women and girls has increased from 25.5 per cent in 1976 [pre-Islamic revolution] to 76.2 per cent in 2002. Their access to jobs and careers, especially in the public sector, has improved and most women have greater control over their fertility than in the past.

The Islamic Republic of Iran has shown considerable commitment to meeting international development goals. It has already surpassed targets set at the International Conference on Population and Development in the areas in maternal and infant mortality, family planning and contraceptive prevalence. Great strides are being made toward universal literacy and primary education. UNFPA has provided considerable technical support to these efforts and has now embarked on its fourth five-year programme in the country"

http://web.unfpa.org/countryfocus/iran/goals.htm
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CigarGod
What is your process?
11:08 AM on 10/14/2009
Have a cigar.

A nice little video of beautiful Iran...looks a lot like...America!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLX9ChtWBGo
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StJames
In absentia luci tenebrae vincunt
02:55 PM on 10/13/2009
I wish Hillary would back off. The Iranians have agreed to inspections...it's a step toward progress...threats impede progress. I want good relations with Iran not 30 more years of hostility.
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Khirad
04:27 PM on 10/13/2009
Hear, hear. The Russians on this are right. Not to say they don't have their own interests, but their tone is right. It would be counterproductive. Why sabotage what little progress we are making?
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StJames
In absentia luci tenebrae vincunt
04:31 PM on 10/13/2009
Exactly.

I also wish Obama and the Dems weren't so easily intimidated by the warmongers. There is absolutely no reason for all this silly aggressive posturing.
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FrankCornish
05:30 PM on 10/13/2009
The reason is that there are people forming US policy that want rapprochement to fail. Not all, but some. If they say things that make it look like they are "trying" to negotiate, and then out of the other side of their mouth repeat the same hostility, "carrot and stick" talk, and condescension they hope to derail things and then be able to say, "It's Iran's fault." Hillary is chief among these types. I will never forget her utterances regarding Iran during the campaign.

In order to move Ahmadinejad & Co. out, Iran's rehabilitation vis-a-vis "the West," needs to happen first. It may not be fair, it may not look right, but hostility will only entrench the hardliners in Iran.
05:58 AM on 10/14/2009
well said StJames . . . totally agree
12:31 PM on 10/13/2009
liberals don't get it. negotiations only work if both sides have something to bargain with. russia is an ally of iran not America. This isn't any different from iraq. We spun our wheels negotiating while iraq's allies assured them that America would never do anything. it would have worked too, if not for 9/11. iran is now following the path that north korea and, up to a point, iraq shows worked. iran has nothing to fefar from anyone else as long as obama is president.
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Khirad
04:14 PM on 10/13/2009
I tried to get your point in all that, but alas ...
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StJames
In absentia luci tenebrae vincunt
04:35 PM on 10/13/2009
As an American citizen I firmly believe that Iran is not my enemy. You are.
12:32 PM on 10/14/2009
Iran could have been one of America's greatest friends like Turkey.

Even greater then turkey.

But American Gov. does not have brains.

Obama it's time for a Nixon moment(China).

Another war & it's America's end as we know it.(Economically)
12:18 PM on 10/13/2009
Sorry US , it's Check Mate.

Iranian's know how to play chess.
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Albert Amato
12:26 PM on 10/13/2009
Including stealing elections and repressing their women and people that believe in freedom in Iran.
01:02 PM on 10/13/2009
"Most Iranians express acceptance of the outcome of the Presidential election. Eighty-one percent say they consider Ahmadinejad to be Iran's legitimate president, and 62 percent say they have a lot of confidence in the declared election results, while 21 percent say they have some confidence. Just 13 percent say they do not have much confidence or no confidence in the results. In general, eight in 10 (81%) say they are satisfied with the process by which authorities are elected, but only half that number (40%) say they are very satisfied."
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/639.php?nid=&id=&pnt=639&lb=

"In the applied physics department of Azad University 70% of the graduates are women - a statistic which would make many universities in the West proud.

It is a huge social shift since the 1979 Revolution: Iran's Islamic government has managed to convince even traditional rural families that it is safe to send their daughters away from home to study"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5359672.stm

"In Tehran, there is a professional fire company composed entirely of women, who wear hijabs under helmets while responding to fire calls. It is the only company of female firefighters in the Middle East."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/20754817#20754817
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PWM
Eisenhower Republican. Liberalism = Liberty
12:40 PM on 10/14/2009
I am far from convinced that Iran wants Nukes. Israel wants us to believe Iran wants nukes - and Israel is no friend of the US.
stpmdn
stop the madness!
02:45 PM on 10/14/2009
Israel wants to keep its middle east hegomony with being the only nuclear power. Those days are over. Obama will not go to war with Iran and will not give the go ahead to Israel. The best thing to do is try to figure out how to deal with a nuclear iran. And that's what obama is doing
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Abraxas79
11:14 AM on 10/13/2009
This headline is misleading. The Russian position has not really changed. They probably would support sanctions, if all else failed, but are in no hurry to get there.

As to nukes, Biden was right about one thing, they are very expensive to maintain, so it is in Russia's own interest to limit the numbers, especially since their economy has been hit so hard by world financial crisis. A lot of the old nukes, it is doubtful they would even work. For example, some of have questioned whether the UK has any funcitoning nukes at all. So to sum it up, limited Nukes = Self-Interest, not because anyone is turning dovish.
11:13 AM on 10/13/2009
Since the US can't even control a client state like Israel, whose minute-by-minute existence depends on our largess -- why should the Russians -- or anyone else for that matter -- show us the slightest iota of respect?

Also, can we imagine Putin's reaction ( can't spell the other guy's name:-) if a Russian general leaked his ideas on Chechen strategy to the press in an effort to mold strategy?

If this is how the Russians respond, wait until she gets the Chinese reaction -- they own our debt. Most likely she'll hear a private warning of what will happen if Iran is attacked and China's oil supply is threatened.

Folks, sixty years of serving AIPAC, a series of pointless wars and a gigantic financial bust caused by the corrupt deregulation of our financial industry have made us exactly what the macho war boys always feared -- a pitiful, helpless giant.
12:20 PM on 10/13/2009
Well said.But AIPAC stooges & it's Blind supporters will never learn.
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Albert Amato
12:29 PM on 10/13/2009
I think 3 billion a year makes Israel dependent on the US any more than Egypt depends on our 2.5 billion per year. AIPAC pales in comparison to the oil and pharmaceutical and health care lobby.
Most of you are one-trick ponies when it comes to logic.
02:04 PM on 10/13/2009
Egypt is not dependent on America.

The Egyptian dictator is dependent on that aid.

Why is America supporting a dictator in Egypt ?????????????????????????

No democracy , remember Iran...Democracy.

Well America supports democracy only when it suits it's interest .

That's called......You know what
10:50 AM on 10/13/2009
Pres O has been reminded to "don't even go there"...





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10:46 AM on 10/13/2009
Americans are fair minded people. If the U.S. government wants to sanction Iran for possibly building a nuclear weapon than it must sanction Israel for stockpiling nuclear weapons. It must demand that both Israel and her neighbors pledge to destroy all nuclear arms and not build any.

The reason that sanctions are not going to work is that most of Europe, unlike American, are not under the control of an Israeli lobby that is capable of intimidating the Congress. Most Americans know that something is definitely wrong in the double standard we apply to Israel and the other countries in the middle east
11:42 AM on 10/13/2009
Most of Americans remember what Europe tried it's best to do to the Jews in the 1930's and 1940's. Of acourse the progressives respect Europe so much that they do not want to look at history. After all it wasn't like they were extermination camp, extermination camps. And it was so long ago. ...Most Americans should remember that Germany was quite willing to exterminate the jews while the French, Polish, Italians, Russians and Muslims sat by and watched without providing protection or support. But lets be fair minded and take away the weapons to guarantee their survival, to be fair minded. Of course it is Iran that talks over and over about attacking Israel and exterminating the jews, while your worried about Israel. Wow, really progressive.
11:53 AM on 10/13/2009
"Every Monday night at 10 o'clock, Iranians by the millions tune into Channel One to watch the most expensive show ever aired on the Islamic republic's state-owned television. Its elaborate 1940s costumes and European locations are a far cry from the typical Iranian TV fare of scarf-clad women and gray-suited men.

But the most surprising thing about the wildly popular show is that it is a heart-wrenching tale of European Jews during World War II.

The hour-long drama, "Zero Degree Turn," centers on a love story between an Iranian-Palestinian Muslim man and a French Jewish woman. Over the course of the 22 episodes, the hero saves his love from Nazi detention camps, and Iranian diplomats in France forge passports for the woman and her family to sneak on to airplanes carrying Iranian Jews to their homeland."

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB118912609718220156.html

"Abdol Hossein Sardari (c. 1895 - 1981) was an Iranian statesman and diplomat who saved the lives of many Jews during the Holocaust. [1] He is known as the "Schindler of Iran" [2] and was the uncle of Fereydoun Hoveyda."

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Abdol-Hossein_Sardari
12:31 PM on 10/13/2009
You cannot justify a new holocaust with an old one.

Israel and the USA have been threatening Iran for some time now.

Israel is the one with nuclear weapons.

Do you honestly think a "surgical strike" against Irans nucl;ear production facilities has any chance of success with conventional weapons?
02:35 PM on 10/14/2009
That's carter's foreign policy. appease your enemies and stab your allies in the back" obama learned it from the master.
03:12 PM on 10/14/2009
Two Words : IRAN CONTRA

Make your head " esplode " ??