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Susan Collins Open To Voting For Health Care Overhaul

First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:20 PM ET

Susan Collins

(AP) WASHINGTON - A second Republican senator signaled Wednesday she's open to voting for sweeping health care legislation this year, putting President Barack Obama closer to a historic achievement that has eluded generations of Democratic leaders.

But Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, told The Associated Press that the bill approved Tuesday by the Finance Committee needs substantial improvements to make coverage more affordable, contain costs and protect Medicare. Nevertheless, she joined her Maine GOP colleague Sen. Olympia Snowe in endorsing the goal of far-reaching changes.

"My hope is we that can fix the flaws in the bill and come together with a truly bipartisan bill that could garner widespread support," Collins said in an interview. "I think this bill is far superior to the ones passed by the Senate (health) committee and the three House committees, but it needs substantial additional work."

The 10-year, $829 billion Finance bill was approved by the committee Tuesday on a 14-9 vote, after Snowe broke ranks with her Republican colleagues to support Chairman Max Baucus' middle-of-the-road plan.

On Wednesday, top White House aides, including Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, traveled to the Capitol to meet with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Baucus about combining the Finance bill with the Senate Health panel measure.

Earlier in the day, Snowe tackled the most divisive issue still on the table: creation of a government insurance plan that would compete with private ones.

While emphasizing that she still opposes the so-called public option, Snowe said on CBS TV that she could foresee a government-run plan that would "kick in" if private insurers failed to live up to expectations that they keep premiums in check.

"I think the government would have a disproportionate advantage" in the event of a government-run option, Snowe acknowledged. At the same time, she added, "I want to make sure the insurance industry performs, and that's why we eliminate many egregious practices."

If the industry didn't follow through on congressionally mandated changes aimed at making health care more affordable, she said, "then you could have the public option kick in immediately."

Snowe previously had proposed using the public option as an incentive, or a threat, to private insurers. This "trigger" option, or some version of it, has survived the bitter debate and scrutiny to remain a viable option for compromise.

Such a statement from a Republican can be very influential in an environment in which GOP lawmakers almost universally have opposed any kind of government-run health care option to compete with private insurers. It represents a break in party solidarity, even if finite. Health care proposals advanced in the House include such a government option.

Snowe broached her standby notion again as talks among lawmakers on health care were going back behind closed doors; Senate leaders are trying to merge two very different bills into a new version that can get the 60 votes needed to guarantee passage.

Collins, however, said she could not support Snowe's idea because she thinks it would make it too easy for a Democratic administration to impose a government plan nationwide. "It would simply delay the public plan for a couple of years," she told AP.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., told reporters that it was unlikely that the House would vote before the first week of November. He said he expected a vote by Christmas but was making no guarantees.

Reid has said he wants to move quickly to merge the Finance bill with a version passed earlier by the Senate health committee. His goal is to get health care overhaul legislation onto the floor the week after next.

Both bills were written by Democrats, but that's not going to make it easier for Reid. They share a common goal, which is to provide all Americans with access to affordable health insurance, but they differ on how to accomplish it.

The Finance Committee bill that was approved Tuesday has no government-sponsored insurance plan and no requirement on employers that they must offer coverage. It relies instead on a requirement that all Americans obtain insurance.

The Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee bill, passed earlier by a panel in which liberals predominate, calls for both a government plan to compete with private insurers and a mandate that employers help cover their workers. Those are only two of dozens of differences.

In general, bills moving toward floor votes in both houses would require most Americans to purchase insurance, provide federal subsidies to help those of lower incomes afford coverage and give small businesses help in defraying the cost of coverage for their workers.

The measures would, among other things, bar insurance companies from denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions and for the first time limit their ability to charge higher premiums on the basis of age or family size. Expanded coverage would be paid for by cutting hundreds of billions of dollars from future Medicare payments to health care providers. Each house also envisions higher taxes -- an income tax surcharge on million-dollar wage-earners in the case of the House, and a new excise levy on insurance companies selling high-cost policies in the Senate Finance Committee bill.

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rigmoten
RELEASE THE TAXES
08:41 PM on 12/22/2009
Smh. Who cares about Collins vote now? If she had been doing her job all this time we might of had a good bill right now. Instead the GOP and the Democrats have allowed the lobbyists to take over and distort it.

It shouldn't be a partisan issue, why are our legislators letting the lobbyists write the bill? Why do they echo the things the industry wants and draw lines in the sand against things it doesn't? The GOP was against everything the industry didn't want, the democrats allowed the lobbyists and corporatist congressmen to kill every thing the industry didn't want.

We need to change the way fund our elections. We deserve bills that serve us, bills that close the loopholes that allow industry to take advantage of us. Both parties have failed us, that is the only bipartisan thing they have done in the last several decades.
10:37 AM on 10/16/2009
The McCarran-Ferguson Act of 1945 exempts health insurance companies from the antitrust regulations that apply to nearly every other industry, rules that protect consumers from anti-competitive business practices like price-fixing.

Legislation has been introduced by Sen. Patrick Leahy in the Senate and Rep. John Conyers in the House, that would eliminate the outdated insurance industry antitrust exemption, and force health insurance companies to compete fairly -- like virtually every other business in America. IF Congress is REALLY interested in breaking insurance companies monopolies.. then call members of Congress and ask them to support the Health Insurance Industry Antitrust Enforcement Act, S. 1681 and H.R. 3596. Insurance companies have NEVER played nice; what makes us think they will now??!!?? Any 'trigger' would just postpone the inevitible!!!
07:24 PM on 10/15/2009
Bravo, Senator Collins. I always thought you were a reasonable person, working for your constituents, rather than for the political power brokers.
I am a fiscally conservative progressive, and I am solidly for Universal Healtcare as a Right.
However, any program of that size must be managed with fiscal responsibility. We all agree on that.
But the greatest cost waste in the current system are the Insurance companies, where the unrestricted profit incentive enable insurance companies to pocket millions of dollars, without contributing anything and sometimes even actively obstructing needed care of the patient. What health care benefits does a person receive from lining the pockets of CEOs?
Profit and Health Care are mutually exclusive.
The basic starting point must be a Non-profit structure. I am not necessarily advocating a government run program, although the government has a pretty good track record in Medicare. Another, private or cooperative organizational model may be possible, but it cannot be For-profit. Even the insurance companies could create a Non-profit division.
I commend you for your support of a Universal Plan. If you are a fiscally conservative, you must address this basic problem. Work toward eliminating excess costs from the administrative aspect of health care. It will free up funds for actual delivery of health care and you will have the support of your constituents, guaranteed.
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marecek
What has always made the state a hell on earth has
07:02 AM on 10/15/2009
Will the Dems please get over their obsession with the Twin Twits from Maine. I don't care what they might be willing to vote for. In fact, they are even more harmful than other Republicans because they are enticing many Dems in to voting for a watered-down piece of crap that will not work and would do more harm than good.
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06:49 AM on 10/15/2009
So, basically, she'll go along with it as long as there is no public option. What good would a "trigger" be if it'll never get pulled? What a joke.

Bipartisanship is a nice idea, but it's not worth losing the public option over.
01:22 AM on 10/15/2009
Oh for pity sake!

Who gives a rat's rear end what Sen. Collins, (or Sen. Snowe for that matter), think or want to do anyway?

They are both AGAINST any sort of PUBLIC OPTION, and there is very little that either would want to vote for that the coincides with what the majority of Americans want and need.

Keep Collins and Snowe in the backwoods were they can't hurt anyone.

I'm just saying...
08:39 AM on 10/15/2009
Hey, I'm from Maine and I just want to say that I think both Collins and Snowe live toward the front of the woods where there's pavement on the roads, so that last comment was a little unfair.
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Solja
12:50 AM on 10/15/2009
I give up. I have posted twice here and both comments have been captured by "moderation". I have a LONG list of "moderated" comments. Is this a Republican website and nobody told me?

I'm going to iwin.com and decorate my rooms. This stinks to high heaven here.
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Solja
12:48 AM on 10/15/2009
I love my POTUS dearly, but I am starting to blame him for all of this unnecessary mess with these so-called moderate Republicans. There aint nothing moderate about someone who automatically throws out the single most important thing to Liberals, ie, the public option.

I didn't campaign for either of these women. I did not donate to them. I did not knock on doors for them. I did not vote for either of them. In fact, I know nothing about them except the Democrats AND the POTUS is kissing their azzes, and I don't like it one bit!

WHY???? WHY is my President not openly supporting what he knows the majority of Americans want? A public option! What in the sam he// is wrong with these people? Why are Democrats so dang soft on making laws with teeth? In all of my 45 years, I don't recall a single Republican POTUS being afraid to get what he wants, ESPECIALLY when he has a majority.

I'm mad at this nonsense, and it took A LOT for me to get to this place.

I need a hug. I'm ready to throw rocks at the Capitol. I won't throw any at the White House simply because it may hurt real bad to get slammed to the ground.
01:23 AM on 10/15/2009
Right on!
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06:53 AM on 10/15/2009
*hugs*
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Solja
12:44 AM on 10/15/2009
I love my POTUS dearly, but I am starting to blame him for all of this unnecessary BS with these so-called moderate Republicans. There aint nothing moderate about someone who automatically throws out the single most important thing to Liberals, ie, the public option.

I didn't campaign for either of these women. I did not donate to them. I did not knock on doors for them. In fact, I know nothing about them except the Democrats AND the POTUS is kissing their arses, and I don't like it one bit!

WHY???? WHY is my President not openly supporting what he knows the majority of Americans want? A public option! What in the sam he// is wrong with these people? Why are Democrats so dam soft on making laws with teeth? In all of my 45 years, I don't recall a single Republican POTUS being afraid to get what he wants, ESPECIALLY when he has a majority.

I'm mad at this nonsense, and it took A LOT for me to get to this place.

I need a hug. I'm ready to throw rocks at the Capitol. I won't throw any at the White House simply because it may hurt real bad to get slammed to the ground.
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oberon123
I like Hope-y Change-y
11:37 PM on 10/14/2009
The White House doesnt meet insurance industry whistleblowers like Wendell Potter, yet invites insurance company CEOs multiple number of times. It doesnt allow discussions with progressives like Howard Dean, yet Obama blows up Olympia Snowe's cell phone like a lovesick teenager. What are we missing here? Did the Democracts really win a massive majority in November or was I just dreaming?
01:24 AM on 10/15/2009
Another comment that I have to say is right on the mark.
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nicole473
Because Republicans are a threat to this democracy
07:56 PM on 10/14/2009
Collins is affiliated with C Street.
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Solja
12:46 AM on 10/15/2009
Link?
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nicole473
Because Republicans are a threat to this democracy
08:13 AM on 10/15/2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_%28Christian_political_organization%29

You'll have to look for her name on that page. It's toward the bottom, before the citations section.
07:44 PM on 10/14/2009
Per LynnW49, I encourage the purchase of the domain:

olympiasnoweisnotmypresident.com.

I'll contribute.
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nicole473
Because Republicans are a threat to this democracy
07:56 PM on 10/14/2009
I will too.
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LynnW49
"A great democracy must be progressive." TR
06:23 PM on 10/14/2009
Just now on Hardball with Chris Matthews, Senator Collins indicated the pointlessness of courting her:

She said "the public option is a non-starter for me." She has made up her mind and stands firm on this point. Next she said that she didn't want a bill crafted in conference, but instead wanted open debate and discussion on the floor. (Reid's job is to combine the Senate Finance Committee bill with the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee bill, and it is appropriate, legal, and absolutely precedented that he do this in conference (just as a Republican majority leader would do).

Collins is being hypocritical: she says that a public option is not something she is even willing to discuss, and then argues for "discussion." Now that Obama and the Dem majority has courted a party that it does not need and catered to Snowe and now Collins, they think they have to continue sucking up, to the detriment of genuine reform. If Snowe votes no on a final bill with a public option in it, as she and Collins most certainly will, then it will look like Congress "lost" the Republicans. For heavens sake, they never ever HAD them. There's no point in continuing to negotiate with people who have closed their minds. If Americans get real reform, we will not care a damn about what Snowe and Collins thought or did. The pandering must stop. And Harry Reid should get a real reform bill in conference.
08:46 AM on 10/15/2009
Obama should consider that if he were able to move this through with a strong affordable public option and without Snowe or Collins, he could pick up one or maybe two new senate seats from Maine. If he passes a watered down, pointless bill that doesn't cover enough people or that is still too expensive or that leads to higher rates for the middle class who can barely afford what they have now, then Snowe, Collins, and Obama are going to have a harder election cycle than any of them expect right now.
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mjeffn
Freedom's just another word 4 nothing left to lose
05:29 PM on 10/14/2009
Stand firm, progressives!
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Squeglen
Obama won, get over it Republican's & Teabagger's
04:55 PM on 10/14/2009
It is funny how they are slowly coming around to the health care bill only after their constituents have been threatening them with a dem in their place. Pass the dang bill once and for all when it is completed.